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Application 2 SD !!! How to stop shrinking of internal phone memory

Application 2 SD !!! How to stop shrinking of internal phone memory

On hd2 i installed nand "MDJ Froyo sense =Revotulion= " , i also have two partition on 8gb sd card. Fat 32 = 6gb and EXT3= 2gb ... when installed new rom i have 161 mb of onternal phone storage. Downloaded from market move2sd enabler and everything i install goes to sd succsesfull...BUT NOW MY INTERNAL STORAGE IS 142 MB ...??? i realy dont know why...does anyone have any idea?????????

veljo09 said:
On hd2 i installed nand "MDJ Froyo sense =Revotulion= " , i also have two partition on 8gb sd card. Fat 32 = 6gb and EXT3= 2gb ... when installed new rom i have 161 mb of onternal phone storage. Downloaded from market move2sd enabler and everything i install goes to sd succsesfull...BUT NOW MY INTERNAL STORAGE IS 142 MB ...??? i realy dont know why...does anyone have any idea?????????
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Because there are some apps that you cant simply move to the ext partition and have to be installed on internal memory i.e. gmail, youtube and updates!

yes I know that! thank you ...but I hade all that apps when installed new rom...3days internal phone memoty was 161mb and after that installed only games (apps 2 sd always aksked me to move to sd and succesfully moved them)..on phone list apps is onlu market and 3gwatchdog...on SD apps list is everything i downloaded but still dont have 161mb ...now there is 142mb and still shrinking!!! How about now???

app2sd or similar isn't moving all app-data to sd I think

Dust2Dust said:
app2sd or similar isn't moving all app-data to sd I think
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Yes,but moveSD enabler does. App2SD only ask for some app's

the "problem" is, move2sd creates a sort of "link" to the data on the SD card. Thus, when you install lets say an app of 15MB, 14MB goes to the SD card, but 1MB of data (files that can't be run of the SD card + link to SD card) stays on your internal phone memory.
So when you install lets say 100 apps, that all have 1MB of essential data and 14 MB of move-to-sd-able data your internal storage shrinks by 100MB and your SD cards' storage shrinks by 1400MB.

Its shrinking because app data is still stored on internal memory.
Please post in correct section. This has nothing to do with development.
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theredone51 said:
the "problem" is, move2sd creates a sort of "link" to the data on the SD card. Thus, when you install lets say an app of 15MB, 14MB goes to the SD card, but 1MB of data (files that can't be run of the SD card + link to SD card) stays on your internal phone memory.
So when you install lets say 100 apps, that all have 1MB of essential data and 14 MB of move-to-sd-able data your internal storage shrinks by 100MB and your SD cards' storage shrinks by 1400MB.
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Finally wright answer . . .

[Q] how to install apps to SD card on NAND ROMs?

Hi
I downloaded and installed a NAND rom [DL DesireZ v3.4][DL Data2SD/Ext4 v2.7][Nand/SD/MAGLAR][kernel:gpc] and enabled Clockwork
but now I Have only about 30 MB free memory available in the phone mem.
I tried moving apps to SD but somehow they still use a part of phone memory
so I'd like to know how to install apps totally to SD Card or if there's a way to keep Data.img on SD card Please
Thanx in advance

[Q] App2SD+ question

Hey,
Yh, I know: another app2sd+ question...
Tried using the search button, but did not find what I was searching for
I'm using the TyphooN CyanogenMod7 RC2 v2.5.5 ROM on my HD2 and was running low on internal memomy and used to send apps to my sd card, but some wouldn't not work and my internal memomery was low on memory.
So I decided to partition my 8GB scandisk sd card:
6.7 gb FAT32 en 800mb ext2
After I did that, I used a clean instal of TyphooN CyanogenMod ROM and everyhting works .
When I go to applications and then applications managing, I see that my internal memory is just 244 mb and my external memory 6.5 gb.
But what I don't understand :
Who do I move downloaded applications from my phone to the ext2 partition on my sd card instead on the fat32 partition ?
Does this (moving to ext2 partition) happen automatically when I download apps and move them to the SD card ?

The ext partition is considered internal, so if you manually move an app to the SD card, it will go from the ext partition to the fat partition and many wont work. When you have an ext partition you don't need to do anything. The rom will use the ext itself.
When you look at internal memory size it wont show the ext space, only the actual internal space. Say you instal a ten Meg app, that figure goes down ten even though its installed to ext, but it will go back up ten next reboot.

Thank you very much !
That was very clear, didn't find this somewhere else

[Q] SD card

Hi guys, so I backed up my sd card and went on a little quest. Never knew what this did so tried it out, went onto clockwork and did an sd partition of 1024mb. Turned phone on sd card worked fine, tried installing a big game but still it said not enough space when there is 2.5gb empty on sd card. So that failed I went onto MAGLDR and onto services and cleared sd partition. Now I turn phone on and it says no sd card and prompts me to format it on status bar, but then it still doesn't work. Tried mounting it via usb but still the sd card is not showing up. Has my sd card corrupted? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also some instructions on how to properly install apps 2 sd, as just moving to the sd card on settings doesn't fully move the app, some of it still remains in the internal and after installing 50+ apps it comes down to 20mb internal memory and says I have no more internal space.
Regards

Tenpin said:
Also some instructions on how to properly install apps 2 sd, as just moving to the sd card on settings doesn't fully move the app, some of it still remains in the internal and after installing 50+ apps it comes down to 20mb internal memory and says I have no more internal space.
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if a rom supports a2sd (typhoon, for example,) you do not have to do anything, it will automatically use an ext partition if it finds one.
If you choose 'move to sd card' for an app, it will be REMOVED from the ext partition, and placed on the fat32 partition (where it may not work), so DO NOT choose 'move to sd', all your apps should be set to internal, and the rom will put them in the ext partition.

Tenpin said:
Hi guys, so I backed up my sd card and went on a little quest. Never knew what this did so tried it out, went onto clockwork and did an sd partition of 1024mb. Turned phone on sd card worked fine, tried installing a big game but still it said not enough space when there is 2.5gb empty on sd card. So that failed I went onto MAGLDR and onto services and cleared sd partition. Now I turn phone on and it says no sd card and prompts me to format it on status bar, but then it still doesn't work. Tried mounting it via usb but still the sd card is not showing up. Has my sd card corrupted? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also some instructions on how to properly install apps 2 sd, as just moving to the sd card on settings doesn't fully move the app, some of it still remains in the internal and after installing 50+ apps it comes down to 20mb internal memory and says I have no more internal space.
Regards
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Well, i would start with HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool to format the sd card back to original. Then start from there.
samsamuel said:
if a rom supports a2sd (typhoon, for example,) you do not have to do anything, it will automatically use an ext partition if it finds one.
If you choose 'move to sd card' for an app, it will be REMOVED from the ext partition, and placed on the fat32 partition (where it may not work), so DO NOT choose 'move to sd', all your apps should be set to internal, and the rom will put them in the ext partition.
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And @samsamuel wouldnt he benefit more from data2ext? From my experiences, that puts EVERYTHING on the ext partition. just puting my two cents in, (its about all i got xP )

elesbb said:
And @samsamuel wouldnt he benefit more from data2ext? From my experiences, that puts EVERYTHING on the ext partition. just puting my two cents in, (its about all i got xP )
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Depends on what your needs are, .,,, running everything from the SD means much of the nand is unused, what's the point of that? Typhoon for instance,, 150mb system, say 20mb for cwm and boot, that's (round up) 200mb used out of 512,, nothing is gonna use the other 300mb, so might as well let the data use it.

Right I'm running this ice ROM off the nand: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441462
[22-04-12][ROM] Unofficial AOKP for HD2 [Build 33][4.0.4][tytung_ics_r1]
It does say apps2sd is possible on thread op, so would I just partition my SD card on clockwork to 1024mb then just install apps without moving them to SD manually? Is that really it?
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samsamuel said:
Depends on what your needs are, .,,, running everything from the SD means much of the nand is unused, what's the point of that? Typhoon for instance,, 150mb system, say 20mb for cwm and boot, that's (round up) 200mb used out of 512,, nothing is gonna use the other 300mb, so might as well let the data use it.
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True, thats why i dont use either, i have the Tmous version so i ihave about 760 mb of unused nand. Only way id prolly use a partition is if i got a lot of bad blocks, but i only have about 5 bad blocks right now in just my data partition.
Tenpin said:
Right I'm running this ice ROM off the nand: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441462
[22-04-12][ROM] Unofficial AOKP for HD2 [Build 33][4.0.4][tytung_ics_r1]
It does say apps2sd is possible on thread op, so would I just partition my SD card on clockwork to 1024mb then just install apps without moving them to SD manually? Is that really it?
Regards,
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium
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Yes, yes it is just partition sd card using minitool partition or disk utility(linux) and you should be good, i dont believe you have to reinstall the ROM either because apps2sd is an init.d script which gets ran upon boot.

Partion SD or not

Do i have to partition sd card on hd2 because i use a 2g card and when i partition it i lose storage space

no you dont have to partition it, only if you intend to use either data/apponEXT type scripts to increase internal storage (apps run better from EXT than being moved to sd in the normal way)
If you have a tmous then no, I wouldn't bother. If you have reg, i used to have a 1/2 gig ext on a 2gb card and moved only the data/apps to EXT, not the whole data partition.

i would say use partition sd.
i used every time it give more space and run faster.
sry for my bad englis.

josephh71 said:
Do i have to partition sd card on hd2 because i use a 2g card and when i partition it i lose storage space
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It depends on the ROM you are going to use. My guess is your 2g microsd card is old and not speedy (lower than class 6). I recommend you to install light-weighted ROM, i.e. CM7 (android 2.3.7). If you try Sense ROM, you have to cut a EXT partition. You will also noticed some slowdown of the system.