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How does making money from putting an ad in your app work? (AdMob etc)
I.E. do you get paid for each time someone clicks an ad? And how much?
I think the developer gets paid for each ad that is displayed, and then probably another payment if someone clicks on an ad.
There is only 1 smart way i've seen this used. Ad-filled FREE version of the app, tell people to buy the REAL app for ad-free service.
the only time i've ever clicked on one of those was on accident (Fat thumb)
otherwise, i boycott all ad-filled apps hah
MintyFloss said:
There is only 1 smart way i've seen this used. Ad-filled FREE version of the app, tell people to buy the REAL app for ad-free service.
the only time i've ever clicked on one of those was on accident (Fat thumb)
otherwise, i boycott all ad-filled apps hah
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Imo apps with ads aren't a bad idea. Much better than a trial version of something.
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I think the developer gets paid for each ad that is displayed, and then probably another payment if someone clicks on an ad.
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Any idea how much?
I tried Googling for this info but got nowhere. I get tons and tons and tons of crap about paying AdMob to get YOUR ads into apps, but not developers getting paid for OTHER people's ads in their apps.
The top 10 apps on the iPhone make about 400-1000 dollars daily. I read an article about it but I can't find it. I don't think any android apps can come close to that much in advertising dollars right now but if you write several apps like that do this, I'm sure it can add up.
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The top 10 apps on the iPhone make about 400-1000 dollars daily.
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Free apps right?
Was AdFree android removed from the market??? I can't seem to find it...
Still there for me.
Try this link. http://www.appbrain.com/app/adfree-android/com.bigtincan.android.adfree
On a side note i tried to update my database today it took long enough that my screen turned off and tried to turn it back on and just got a black screen, had to pull battery :-\
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Try this link. http://www.appbrain.com/app/adfree-android/com.bigtincan.android.adfree
On a side note i tried to update my database today it took long enough that my screen turned off and tried to turn it back on and just got a black screen, had to pull battery :-\
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thanks! I couldnt find it anywhere
"Failed to replace your hosts file. Error message:" and no error message. Never had this happen with my older phone. Could it be MIUI?
nope runs fine on miui im running it
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nope runs fine on miui im running it
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MIUI is sooooo dope...
im glad i finally flashed it
Why would you run an app like this? All you're doing is taking away money from developers who make apps that you use. They worked hard on the code, why should you get it for free?
Its all about data man, not getting anything for free. Some apps dont have the option to pay for a key to do so. Plus who actually clicks on the adds anyways, thats the only way to benefit from having them there. Im all about supporting the work of great devs, but i dont like my phone to connect to the web when its totaly unnessescary. Plus its not just for apps, works in the web browser too helping pages with garbage load faster
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Why would you run an app like this? All you're doing is taking away money from developers who make apps that you use. They worked hard on the code, why should you get it for free?
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I mostly use it for web browsing so it doesn't load ads. I don't use many ad-supported apps. Angry Birds is one of the only ones, and it doesn't have a paid version. If I like an app I will buy or donate.
Anyway, I'm new to the Evo (not to Android), and read that the Evo can't have files written to /system unless in bootloader. Is this true??
Root explorer can mount system as read/write if thats what your referring to
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I mostly use it for web browsing so it doesn't load ads. I don't use many ad-supported apps. Angry Birds is one of the only ones, and it doesn't have a paid version. If I like an app I will buy or donate.
Anyway, I'm new to the Evo (not to Android), and read that the Evo can't have files written to /system unless in bootloader. Is this true??
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It has NAND protection that must be turned off first, after that the phone is wide open.
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It has NAND protection that must be turned off first, after that the phone is wide open.
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yeah I just realized that, duh. saw s-on. sorry.
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Why would you run an app like this? All you're doing is taking away money from developers who make apps that you use. They worked hard on the code, why should you get it for free?
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Because I don't want ads on my phone. Everywhere I go, everywhere I look there are ads. I pay for cable TV yet I have to watch commercials. There are ads ALL over the internet. My inbox is littered with spam from advertisers selling garbage products that I have no interest in. The last place I want to see ads is on my cell phone. It's not about taking money away from the devs. I have spent over $300 on games and apps from the market, I have no problem at all tossing the devs money for their hard earned work if they give us that option. If they don't, that's not my problem. Besides, it's not like I've ever clicked on a single ad so keeping them on my phone isn't going to give them any more money than if I block them.
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thanks! I couldnt find it anywhere
"Failed to replace your hosts file. Error message:" and no error message. Never had this happen with my older phone. Could it be MIUI?
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Was AdFree android removed from the market??? I can't seem to find it...
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Here is the hosts file AdFree uses. I haven't updated database in a couple months, but it works great for me. I would rather not run an app to block sites therefore I just use the hosts file. Simply extract hosts.zip as it IS NOT FLASHABLE, remove old hosts file in /system/etc and push new hosts file to same place. No app needed!
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Here is the hosts file AdFree uses. I haven't updated database in a couple months, but it works great for me. I would rather not run an app to block sites therefore I just use the hosts file. Simply extract hosts.zip as it IS NOT FLASHABLE, remove old hosts file in /system/etc and push new hosts file to same place. No app needed!
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I had no idea. Thanks! If I wanted to update the db on my own, is their an easy way to do it?
PM me I can send the apk of adfree, I pay for apps too, and pay almost 200/month for service. I also agree I should not have to see ads all over my phone. Id pay for a ad free copy of angry birds, the ads all over the game ruin the game play and get in the way.
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I had no idea. Thanks! If I wanted to update the db on my own, is their an easy way to do it?
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You could open file up in notepad and manually add to it, just need to find a good source for a database.
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Because I don't want ads on my phone. Everywhere I go, everywhere I look there are ads. I pay for cable TV yet I have to watch commercials. There are ads ALL over the internet. My inbox is littered with spam from advertisers selling garbage products that I have no interest in. The last place I want to see ads is on my cell phone. It's not about taking money away from the devs. I have spent over $300 on games and apps from the market, I have no problem at all tossing the devs money for their hard earned work if they give us that option. If they don't, that's not my problem. Besides, it's not like I've ever clicked on a single ad so keeping them on my phone isn't going to give them any more money than if I block them.
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I couldn't have said this better..
+1
phatmanxxl said:
PM me I can send the apk of adfree, I pay for apps too, and pay almost 200/month for service. I also agree I should not have to see ads all over my phone. Id pay for a ad free copy of angry birds, the ads all over the game ruin the game play and get in the way.
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I can't play Angry birds with all those ads, drives me nuts. The hosts file I posted earlier takes care of those annoying ads!
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Besides, it's not like I've ever clicked on a single ad so keeping them on my phone isn't going to give them any more money than if I block them.
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This is wrong. They get paid for views. if your phone never retrieves the ad, they don't get paid for the view.
Not making a statement for or against ads, but at least be accurate.
Hello!
since a week I am getting ads in every apps and games:
-Angry birds season
-Christmas wallpapers
-Apn Droid
Is it normal or my N1 got a trojan?
It's normal more and more apps are becoming heavily in tangled with adds. Developers have the choice but once they give the all clear Google takes over and pumps them out. Small price to pay compared to paying for the apps. If you're still worried hook your phone up to your PC and do a full scan the main anti virus will let you scan.
There has been some confirmation that Angry Birds makes $1,000,000/month from those ads, hence why they didn't sell the game. So, going forward you can expect every college kid "dev" with Eclipse and some c/p open source code to slap ads in their app
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There has been some confirmation that Angry Birds makes $1,000,000/month from those ads, hence why they didn't sell the game. So, going forward you can expect every college kid "dev" with Eclipse and some c/p open source code to slap ads in their app
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I assume thats ads in all of their platforms, not just Android?
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I assume thats ads in all of their platforms, not just Android?
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Nope, AndroidCommunity is reporting that its just the Android ads (here). Their iPhone app is paid, and I don't think they support WP7 yet, and the other couple platforms aren't really significant
If you're rooted a custom hosts file will rid you of most of them. I get no ads at all in angry birds. For some reason weatherbug is the app that seems to sneak the most in on me. Get them there about half the time I open it up. Gonna have to find time to search for a more up to date hosts file to fix that.
What's really annoying is that if I don't have internet connection when I want to play Angry Birds season it will not open new levels
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What's really annoying is that if I don't have internet connection when I want to play Angry Birds season it will not open new levels
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I think the level is downloaded when you unlock it....
Some people can not work for free.
For example with angry birds.
Its the best game i played in a long long long time.
Not just headshootin and headshootin again.
Its simple, has nice looks, attracts the ladies ("hey that looks funny, what is it...can i touch it?"...does this sound wrong?) and so on.
It gave me hours of pleasure...maybe more than the ladies
Yeah whatever, what i want to say:
I don't care about the ads. I don't even recognize them anymore.
And for the angry birds case, they just "earn" it!
In Angry Birds, the ads get in the way of gameplay sometimes. I wish Rovio would offer us a paid version like the iPhone users have.
AdFree.....
root and adfree. lulz, no ads for me any where
davados said:
It's normal more and more apps are becoming heavily in tangled with adds. Developers have the choice but once they give the all clear Google takes over and pumps them out. Small price to pay compared to paying for the apps. If you're still worried hook your phone up to your PC and do a full scan the main anti virus will let you scan.
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This is Google's strategy (hint: how they make almost all their rev.), don't expect Apple like strategy unless apps devs prefer it... fortunately you can disable ads, if you prefer, thanks to configurability of Linux...
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root and adfree. lulz, no ads for me any where
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+1 Been rooted and using adfree pretty much since I got my phone in july . I couldn't image playing angry birds with ads .
we really need a modded/adfree version of angry birds seasons. levels wont load if it fails to retrieve an ad....
britoso said:
we really need a modded/adfree version of angry birds seasons. levels wont load if it fails to retrieve an ad....
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Not for me. I've been keeping up with the christmas birds all december, rooted using adfree, no ads to spoil my christmas .
I feel bad about blocking ads. I rarely, if ever click on them. But i feel its part of the deal, i get a free OS and free or low cost software, in exchange for having to see an ad or two around the place. I feel as if i am not holding up my end of the deal.
If I use the software, I buy the paid version. If there's no paid version, then I click the adds. Gotta show the devs some love...
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I feel bad about blocking ads. I rarely, if ever click on them.
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AFAIK devs get paid for clicks, not ad-views. Preventing an app from working without a data connection is pushing it IMO.
I don't mind the ads and I feel its for the betterment of the platform and whole system to attract developers to android.
Ive noticed apps on the Market that says, FREE (with ADS) and also PAID / Pro Version of the same app (for a fixed price lets say £3.00)
Now ive noticed the count on download apps for a app that is £3 to be 250.000 > downloads ... which means £750.000 has been paid into the market just from this single app ?????
How much would the developer of this app see from the £750.000 that has been made? And am I also right that ADS on their software also let the developer gain money??
Seems to me you can earn a lot of money for a well populated app... ???
You answered your own question. Developers SELL (obtain money for their product) their apps. Free apps that include ads, the developer also gets money. It's just like youtube videos.
Surely Google must take commision as well??
Yeah, that's the goal
But face it, people are cheap...even for a $0.99 app! And that "super duper, can't live without it app" is all so elusive.
So developers will put out a limited or crippled version of their app for free in hopes that people will buy the full version.
Oh yeah Google takes their cut; it's pro-rated on the number of app sales you have.
Lookiing closely at other apps and focasing on one partiuclar app called Fotmob which I have purchased. It is a really good app that is for any football supportors out their giving details of a list of attributes such as, Live Scores - Fixtures - News - and Table..... Its probably the best football application Ive bought.
Now focasing on a a certain point on the development part of the app
1) Live Score's ... Gives a list of live playing games and their score line next to it. - Am curious on where the data comes from? Surely it isnt edited As games are played because that would be practically impossible to keep up to date therefore it must use a similar command such as a Fetch_arrey syntax. Now where would the user of FOTMOB Fetch the data from?? it must be a reliable known source such as BBC SPORTS / SKY SPORTS to keep its app up-to-date during the live games??
Is that right?
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Ive noticed apps on the Market that says, FREE (with ADS) and also PAID / Pro Version of the same app (for a fixed price lets say £3.00)
Now ive noticed the count on download apps for a app that is £3 to be 250.000 > downloads ... which means £750.000 has been paid into the market just from this single app ?????
How much would the developer of this app see from the £750.000 that has been made? And am I also right that ADS on their software also let the developer gain money??
Seems to me you can earn a lot of money for a well populated app... ???
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It's not as black and white as that.
Firstly, you'd have to be an brilliant developer to get 250k+ downloads from a paid app. If you see an app like that, 9 times out of 10 it will be a company, not a single developer.
Secondly, 250k downloads is the amount of times an app has been downloaded, not the amount of times people have paid for it. e.g., around 40% of those downloads will be from people who refunded.
and lastly, Google take a ridiculous amount of money from you for each sale.
For example, my app sells for £2.00, but google takes £0.60 of that. It might not seem like a lot but it mounts up quickly.
So, 250k downloads isn't as much as you think if you start to look into it (but, it's still a hell of a lot for a single developer to get!!)
Well said Mellus.
And some of these so-called "great" apps are just fancy front ends pulling data off the net or a RSS feed.
As you might gather, I do not have a lot of respect for "this" (or "self"...programmer humor) type of developer.
P.S. if you don't get the programmer humor, "self" is Mac Objective C's "this" pointer.
I make $1,500 a month ( single dev )
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You make $1,500 off how many apps? How many installs. Free apps or paid?
Also, could someone comment on what's required to get started? I know there's a $25 dev fee, and I've read all the help text on the publish site.
What do most devs do for a website to link to in the market? Does Google offer anything? Use Go Daddy? What?
What do you use to create the graphics required for the market?
Other tips?
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rigman said:
You make $1,500 off how many apps? How many installs. Free apps or paid?
Also, could someone comment on what's required to get started? I know there's a $25 dev fee, and I've read all the help text on the publish site.
What do most devs do for a website to link to in the market? Does Google offer anything? Use Go Daddy? What?
What do you use to create the graphics required for the market?
Other tips?
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About 15 apps. All paid.
You need to know how to make apps lol.
You need to make your own website ( not needed though)
Use photoshop.
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Yeah I'm just getting into app development as well. I've currently got an ADWTheme out on the market for $0.99, and I make ~$0.69 per sale. There is really a ton of potential for profit if you get into individual app development as long as you can make stuff that people want. When I first released my theme I was making ~$10 a day off of it. after a month or so it's died down to ~$2.5 - $5 daily, but another factor is that I haven't updated it in a while haha. If you can manage to keep all of your apps up-to-date and appealing, you will do well.
If you are really interested in developing applications for android I would recommended watching these videos: http://marakana.com/techtv/android_bootcamp_screencast_series.html They've seriously helped me out a LOT getting off the ground
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About 15 apps. All paid.
You need to know how to make apps lol.
You need to make your own website ( not needed though)
Use photoshop.
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I would recommend Adobe Illustrator more than Photoshop for making graphics, at least it's what I prefer.
1. Make it look pretty
2. Make it fart
Yeah, nice LOL. Hey, if it sells, it sells. Wish I could write an app that sells thousands
I'm only a few months into development though, so it's "learn something new everyday" process. As the coding skills build, so will the quality of the apps....and hopefully sales.
Applications based on RFID concept?
Please allow me to ask if how much will it take for a developer on a full time basis to create an application that would run on both android and windows mobile.
This will be for a RFID concept
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Please allow me to ask if how much will it take for a developer on a full time basis to create an application that would run on both android and windows mobile.
This will be for a RFID concept
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I don't know about window mobile but check out corona SDK for developing.
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Don't know why it's so difficult to answer a simple question.
70% goes to the developer, the remaining 30% is distributed to the cell carrier (if the carrier is authorized to receive fees for apps purchased on the market.)
Wikipedia explains it in such a way that even the most simple minded of folk can understand. It sounds like a few of you should read up on that, as opposed to providing vague, meaningless "answers".
Just need Pros and cons about rooting a tablet.
My htc hero is rooted so i can do wifi tether,so why i should i root my tablet?
Eventually, new kernels and ROMs will be released that you can install if rooted. Some of the features of these are over/underclocking, ability to remove preinstalled apps, performance and battery life tweaks, ability to run certain apps such as backup apps, screenshot apps, etc, etc, etc.
All in all, it's def worth it.
So far one con would be not being able to use Google's movie rental service.
I agree its worth it but you have to also note that when we get services like Google's movie rental service or Netflix, they don't currently work on rooted devices.
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Definitely a plus.
That's not entirely true, Netflix has been running on my rooted CM7 Evo 4G for quite awhile. Google Movies definitely doesn't work on rooted tablets/phones though.
for me, the answer is obvious - peace of mind.
everyone's different though
Edit: also, only a-holes use adfree. developers put a lot of work into their applications and all they ask is that you use a bit of screen space for an ad. is that really too much to ask? if you really can't stand it, most apps have a paid version that remove the ads. just pay the 2 dollars(or whatever) and move on with your life. you were able to spend 5-6 hundred bucks on a device that has no real purpose(maybe there's a few who really need an android tablet, but most people could do almost everything on their phone and they could do everything+more on the computer) so I'm sure you can spend a few bucks on apps. I, for one, like to actually support the developers for my platform. If we don't, people will either not make apps or they'll make them all cost money. I'd much rather just have an ad seeing as how it makes basically no difference to my life.
I'd actually like to see a lot more open-source apps with donation options but that's probably not going to happen..
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That's not entirely true, Netflix has been running on my rooted CM7 Evo 4G for quite awhile. Google Movies definitely doesn't work on rooted tablets/phones though.
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Oh OK, for some reason I thought Netflix checked for root access.
adfree, major reason to root it
Instead of using adfree, try buying your apps more often. How is it fair to hard working app devs when you download their free, ad included versions of apps and then run adfree to remove them and have the paid app at no cost? How does that make you any different than a warez using pirate?
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Instead of using adfree, try buying your apps more often. How is it fair to hard working app devs when you download their free, ad included versions of apps and then run adfree to remove them and have the paid app at no cost? How does that make you any different than a warez using pirate?
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my thoughts exactly.
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Instead of using adfree, try buying your apps more often. How is it fair to hard working app devs when you download their free, ad included versions of apps and then run adfree to remove them and have the paid app at no cost? How does that make you any different than a warez using pirate?
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why don't you blame the dev who made adfree rather then those that use it. besides i pay for my apps, however i don't like ads when browsing...so who are you to tell us how to use our devices. we paid for them and we can use it anyway we like.
tq745 said:
why don't you blame the dev who made adfree rather then those that use it. besides i pay for my apps, however i don't like ads when browsing...so who are you to tell us how to use our devices. we paid for them and we can use it anyway we like.
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I agree. Adfree isn't just for apps.
smaskell said:
for me, the answer is obvious - peace of mind.
everyone's different though
Edit: also, only a-holes use adfree. developers put a lot of work into their applications and all they ask is that you use a bit of screen space for an ad. is that really too much to ask? if you really can't stand it, most apps have a paid version that remove the ads. just pay the 2 dollars(or whatever) and move on with your life. you were able to spend 5-6 hundred bucks on a device that has no real purpose(maybe there's a few who really need an android tablet, but most people could do almost everything on their phone and they could do everything+more on the computer) so I'm sure you can spend a few bucks on apps. I, for one, like to actually support the developers for my platform. If we don't, people will either not make apps or they'll make them all cost money. I'd much rather just have an ad seeing as how it makes basically no difference to my life.
I'd actually like to see a lot more open-source apps with donation options but that's probably not going to happen..
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Thank you. I'm a developer and yell at my friends that use adFree on their devices. They even use my apps and still have adFree on. I know some apps neither need nor deserve to have Ads but a lot of them out there do. Its the only way we make any money developing FREE apps. We spend 100's of hours making these apps. The least the users can do is deal with a small ad on the screen or purchasing a $.99 app. Pay the freaking dollar. You obviously use the apps.
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Thank you. I'm a developer and yell at my friends that use adFree on their devices. They even use my apps and still have adFree on. I know some apps neither need nor deserve to have Ads but a lot of them out there do. Its the only way we make any money developing FREE apps. We spend 100's of hours making these apps. The least the users can do is deal with a small ad on the screen or purchasing a $.99 app. Pay the freaking dollar. You obviously use the apps.
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I don't ever use this app, but I have in the past. I seem to recall it just making the add a blank white box. Does this affect your profits directly, somehow? Or do you mean, that stops people from clicking the ad and buying whatever was showing?
Ahh, the whole ad-blocking debate again.
Personally, as long as unsavory types are still using ads as a way to deliver malware (it started on PCs and now it's moving to Android), I will block them, period. I pay for apps though, so I don't really see what's with the whole 'ad blocker = anti-capitalist free loading scum' attitude, but okay.
Adfree is a gimmick. Not only does it break certain apps, but it still has the placeholder of where the add would come up. However, instead of the image/banner/etc, you get a "?". No thanks! I don't mind helping the devs out!