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Just curious....how much are you spending on apps a month, and what is it that motivates you to buy?
I dont buy many apps, but having a demo version of a app usually causes me to want the full app after using the demo... if it meets my needs. I recently bought better keyboard for $4 and KEPT it, but removed swiftkey and got a refund..
And I already know you can get a refund the first 24hrs ... I am asking people who BUY AND KEEP apps, not those who RENT THEM for 24 hours..
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I have bought more than a few. My only that I would call expensive purchases was sling player and logmein ($30) I had more than a few palm and window mobile devices, and I can't remember all the $15-30 apps I bought, alot though. the apps are so cheap, it's baffling when I see ppl complaining about buying android apps. A dollar or two mostly. Ringo pro cost me $24 on my treo running palm os, and on my touch pro, hit me for 4 bucks for the same app on android.
So far I've spent about $ 35 in apps since I had my G1. Roughly about 15 apps, most of then having to do with root stuff, like set cpu, cache cleaner, titanium backup. The others are a couple of games, a couple of task killers that I no longer use and a couple of utilities type apps.
nmw407 said:
So far I've spent about $ 35 in apps since I had my G1. Roughly about 15 apps, most of then having to do with root stuff, like set cpu, cache cleaner, titanium backup. The others are a couple of games, a couple of task killers that I no longer use and a couple of utilities type apps.
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Haha i get my paid apps for free. almost any
topgun303 said:
Haha i get my paid apps for free. almost any
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I do as well but if there is an application I really like, I will go back and pay for it. If developers don't get paid for their efforts, they will stop developing.
Akulamenuri said:
I do as well but if there is an application I really like, I will go back and pay for it. If developers don't get paid for their efforts, they will stop developing.
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True, I am a college student and i am broke all the time. Buying engineering books is not cheap. Mostly i try to get free version.
topgun303 said:
True, I am a college student and i am broke all the time. Buying engineering books is not cheap. Mostly i try to get free version.
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90% of apps cost less that 5 bucks, support the devs. If there was no way to get them free, u would pay the few dollars
I've spent about $20 on 10 or so paid apps so far. Tons more free ones.
topgun303 said:
Haha i get my paid apps for free. almost any
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Are you confessing that you STEAL FROM DEVELOPERS by downloading hacked versions of apps?
surfnhawaii808 said:
Are you confessing that you STEAL FROM DEVELOPERS by downloading hacked versions of apps?
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All i am saying is that i like to try the app out and if i like it then i will buy it. And you cant get updates for hacked apps. So its useless to the user. Thats my opinion. We all should support are developers. They are the reason we all are using these smart phones.
I like testing out an app first to see if I like it enough to want to buy it. Case in point widgetlocker. I played with the full version that I got of the internet, really liked it, uninstalled the pirated version and went back and bought the legit copy from the market. That way I know I'll get the upgrades as time goes by too. Other ones I paid and didn't use anymore... Well, if I need them again, they'll be there.
The majority if the apps are under $ 5 anyway. That's cheaper than getting lunch nowadays.
the only one I have actually bought from the market was Beautiful Widgets, but I have "bought" quite a few apps not sure on the amount because it depends on how much I use/need and app. I have gotten a bunch for free from the developers here on xda like SetCPU, ROM Manager ect however I have ended up donating to the dev of all the free ones I have got here.
I bought about $50 worth of apps and barely use any. Mostly use free ones. I stay away from anything that cost more then ten bucks though, I'm not that rich
I did buy at least 5 apps only to support the des (Stericson,Anderwebs, others) but I don't even use those.
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I find buying the apps to be most rewarding. Not only do you get the updates and you're supporting the devs but with this "goggle account" thing (I'm new to android phones)
I find that even after a wipe and clean install of a new rom if I give the phone a few minutes all the apps I bought and d/led off the market reinstall themselves.
Well..at least that's what I've noticed.
Ive noticed apps on the Market that says, FREE (with ADS) and also PAID / Pro Version of the same app (for a fixed price lets say £3.00)
Now ive noticed the count on download apps for a app that is £3 to be 250.000 > downloads ... which means £750.000 has been paid into the market just from this single app ?????
How much would the developer of this app see from the £750.000 that has been made? And am I also right that ADS on their software also let the developer gain money??
Seems to me you can earn a lot of money for a well populated app... ???
You answered your own question. Developers SELL (obtain money for their product) their apps. Free apps that include ads, the developer also gets money. It's just like youtube videos.
Surely Google must take commision as well??
Yeah, that's the goal
But face it, people are cheap...even for a $0.99 app! And that "super duper, can't live without it app" is all so elusive.
So developers will put out a limited or crippled version of their app for free in hopes that people will buy the full version.
Oh yeah Google takes their cut; it's pro-rated on the number of app sales you have.
Lookiing closely at other apps and focasing on one partiuclar app called Fotmob which I have purchased. It is a really good app that is for any football supportors out their giving details of a list of attributes such as, Live Scores - Fixtures - News - and Table..... Its probably the best football application Ive bought.
Now focasing on a a certain point on the development part of the app
1) Live Score's ... Gives a list of live playing games and their score line next to it. - Am curious on where the data comes from? Surely it isnt edited As games are played because that would be practically impossible to keep up to date therefore it must use a similar command such as a Fetch_arrey syntax. Now where would the user of FOTMOB Fetch the data from?? it must be a reliable known source such as BBC SPORTS / SKY SPORTS to keep its app up-to-date during the live games??
Is that right?
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Ive noticed apps on the Market that says, FREE (with ADS) and also PAID / Pro Version of the same app (for a fixed price lets say £3.00)
Now ive noticed the count on download apps for a app that is £3 to be 250.000 > downloads ... which means £750.000 has been paid into the market just from this single app ?????
How much would the developer of this app see from the £750.000 that has been made? And am I also right that ADS on their software also let the developer gain money??
Seems to me you can earn a lot of money for a well populated app... ???
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It's not as black and white as that.
Firstly, you'd have to be an brilliant developer to get 250k+ downloads from a paid app. If you see an app like that, 9 times out of 10 it will be a company, not a single developer.
Secondly, 250k downloads is the amount of times an app has been downloaded, not the amount of times people have paid for it. e.g., around 40% of those downloads will be from people who refunded.
and lastly, Google take a ridiculous amount of money from you for each sale.
For example, my app sells for £2.00, but google takes £0.60 of that. It might not seem like a lot but it mounts up quickly.
So, 250k downloads isn't as much as you think if you start to look into it (but, it's still a hell of a lot for a single developer to get!!)
Well said Mellus.
And some of these so-called "great" apps are just fancy front ends pulling data off the net or a RSS feed.
As you might gather, I do not have a lot of respect for "this" (or "self"...programmer humor) type of developer.
P.S. if you don't get the programmer humor, "self" is Mac Objective C's "this" pointer.
I make $1,500 a month ( single dev )
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You make $1,500 off how many apps? How many installs. Free apps or paid?
Also, could someone comment on what's required to get started? I know there's a $25 dev fee, and I've read all the help text on the publish site.
What do most devs do for a website to link to in the market? Does Google offer anything? Use Go Daddy? What?
What do you use to create the graphics required for the market?
Other tips?
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rigman said:
You make $1,500 off how many apps? How many installs. Free apps or paid?
Also, could someone comment on what's required to get started? I know there's a $25 dev fee, and I've read all the help text on the publish site.
What do most devs do for a website to link to in the market? Does Google offer anything? Use Go Daddy? What?
What do you use to create the graphics required for the market?
Other tips?
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About 15 apps. All paid.
You need to know how to make apps lol.
You need to make your own website ( not needed though)
Use photoshop.
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Yeah I'm just getting into app development as well. I've currently got an ADWTheme out on the market for $0.99, and I make ~$0.69 per sale. There is really a ton of potential for profit if you get into individual app development as long as you can make stuff that people want. When I first released my theme I was making ~$10 a day off of it. after a month or so it's died down to ~$2.5 - $5 daily, but another factor is that I haven't updated it in a while haha. If you can manage to keep all of your apps up-to-date and appealing, you will do well.
If you are really interested in developing applications for android I would recommended watching these videos: http://marakana.com/techtv/android_bootcamp_screencast_series.html They've seriously helped me out a LOT getting off the ground
Newklearx3 said:
About 15 apps. All paid.
You need to know how to make apps lol.
You need to make your own website ( not needed though)
Use photoshop.
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I would recommend Adobe Illustrator more than Photoshop for making graphics, at least it's what I prefer.
1. Make it look pretty
2. Make it fart
Yeah, nice LOL. Hey, if it sells, it sells. Wish I could write an app that sells thousands
I'm only a few months into development though, so it's "learn something new everyday" process. As the coding skills build, so will the quality of the apps....and hopefully sales.
Applications based on RFID concept?
Please allow me to ask if how much will it take for a developer on a full time basis to create an application that would run on both android and windows mobile.
This will be for a RFID concept
needless said:
Please allow me to ask if how much will it take for a developer on a full time basis to create an application that would run on both android and windows mobile.
This will be for a RFID concept
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I don't know about window mobile but check out corona SDK for developing.
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Don't know why it's so difficult to answer a simple question.
70% goes to the developer, the remaining 30% is distributed to the cell carrier (if the carrier is authorized to receive fees for apps purchased on the market.)
Wikipedia explains it in such a way that even the most simple minded of folk can understand. It sounds like a few of you should read up on that, as opposed to providing vague, meaningless "answers".
Get rid of 'em pesky advertisements...
I am sure many of you out there already know about this app, but for those who don't here it is.
Ok we all hate them spoiling our nice apps.
So the options are...
Live with it,
Pay for it,
OR...
Simply download 'adfree' job done the adds disappear, gone, not seen, finished...
Hope this helps - Enjoy your apps that little bit nicer
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Get rid of 'em pesky advertisements...
I am sure many of you out there already know about this app, but for those who don't here it is.
Ok we all hate them spoiling our nice apps.
So the options are...
Live with it,
Pay for it,
OR...
Simply download 'adfree' job done the adds disappear, gone, not seen, finished...
Hope this helps - Enjoy your apps that little bit nicer
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I choose to live with it so devs are supported when they choose to release free apps.
pay the opp dev
Installing something to block the developer's from being paid is so wrong.If you invent something for profit you would like tomcat paid as well. And click a add once ina while when using a free app that gets then coins as well
Be fair and honest it will reward you in the long run
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Installing something to block the developer's from being paid is so wrong.If you invent something for profit you would like tomcat paid as well. And click a add once ina while when using a free app that gets then coins as well
Be fair and honest it will reward you in the long run
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Wow didn't know devs got paid for ads - still I like ap and its free
I'm all for the devs making their apps free with ad support IF they also release a paid version without the ads... but some do not do that and I will not use their ad covered crap (Words with friends for example). I'm not for or against the adfree app, but seriously devs should release both versions of their program.
Just need Pros and cons about rooting a tablet.
My htc hero is rooted so i can do wifi tether,so why i should i root my tablet?
Eventually, new kernels and ROMs will be released that you can install if rooted. Some of the features of these are over/underclocking, ability to remove preinstalled apps, performance and battery life tweaks, ability to run certain apps such as backup apps, screenshot apps, etc, etc, etc.
All in all, it's def worth it.
So far one con would be not being able to use Google's movie rental service.
I agree its worth it but you have to also note that when we get services like Google's movie rental service or Netflix, they don't currently work on rooted devices.
adfree
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Definitely a plus.
That's not entirely true, Netflix has been running on my rooted CM7 Evo 4G for quite awhile. Google Movies definitely doesn't work on rooted tablets/phones though.
for me, the answer is obvious - peace of mind.
everyone's different though
Edit: also, only a-holes use adfree. developers put a lot of work into their applications and all they ask is that you use a bit of screen space for an ad. is that really too much to ask? if you really can't stand it, most apps have a paid version that remove the ads. just pay the 2 dollars(or whatever) and move on with your life. you were able to spend 5-6 hundred bucks on a device that has no real purpose(maybe there's a few who really need an android tablet, but most people could do almost everything on their phone and they could do everything+more on the computer) so I'm sure you can spend a few bucks on apps. I, for one, like to actually support the developers for my platform. If we don't, people will either not make apps or they'll make them all cost money. I'd much rather just have an ad seeing as how it makes basically no difference to my life.
I'd actually like to see a lot more open-source apps with donation options but that's probably not going to happen..
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That's not entirely true, Netflix has been running on my rooted CM7 Evo 4G for quite awhile. Google Movies definitely doesn't work on rooted tablets/phones though.
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Oh OK, for some reason I thought Netflix checked for root access.
adfree, major reason to root it
Instead of using adfree, try buying your apps more often. How is it fair to hard working app devs when you download their free, ad included versions of apps and then run adfree to remove them and have the paid app at no cost? How does that make you any different than a warez using pirate?
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Instead of using adfree, try buying your apps more often. How is it fair to hard working app devs when you download their free, ad included versions of apps and then run adfree to remove them and have the paid app at no cost? How does that make you any different than a warez using pirate?
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my thoughts exactly.
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Instead of using adfree, try buying your apps more often. How is it fair to hard working app devs when you download their free, ad included versions of apps and then run adfree to remove them and have the paid app at no cost? How does that make you any different than a warez using pirate?
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why don't you blame the dev who made adfree rather then those that use it. besides i pay for my apps, however i don't like ads when browsing...so who are you to tell us how to use our devices. we paid for them and we can use it anyway we like.
tq745 said:
why don't you blame the dev who made adfree rather then those that use it. besides i pay for my apps, however i don't like ads when browsing...so who are you to tell us how to use our devices. we paid for them and we can use it anyway we like.
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I agree. Adfree isn't just for apps.
smaskell said:
for me, the answer is obvious - peace of mind.
everyone's different though
Edit: also, only a-holes use adfree. developers put a lot of work into their applications and all they ask is that you use a bit of screen space for an ad. is that really too much to ask? if you really can't stand it, most apps have a paid version that remove the ads. just pay the 2 dollars(or whatever) and move on with your life. you were able to spend 5-6 hundred bucks on a device that has no real purpose(maybe there's a few who really need an android tablet, but most people could do almost everything on their phone and they could do everything+more on the computer) so I'm sure you can spend a few bucks on apps. I, for one, like to actually support the developers for my platform. If we don't, people will either not make apps or they'll make them all cost money. I'd much rather just have an ad seeing as how it makes basically no difference to my life.
I'd actually like to see a lot more open-source apps with donation options but that's probably not going to happen..
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Thank you. I'm a developer and yell at my friends that use adFree on their devices. They even use my apps and still have adFree on. I know some apps neither need nor deserve to have Ads but a lot of them out there do. Its the only way we make any money developing FREE apps. We spend 100's of hours making these apps. The least the users can do is deal with a small ad on the screen or purchasing a $.99 app. Pay the freaking dollar. You obviously use the apps.
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Thank you. I'm a developer and yell at my friends that use adFree on their devices. They even use my apps and still have adFree on. I know some apps neither need nor deserve to have Ads but a lot of them out there do. Its the only way we make any money developing FREE apps. We spend 100's of hours making these apps. The least the users can do is deal with a small ad on the screen or purchasing a $.99 app. Pay the freaking dollar. You obviously use the apps.
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I don't ever use this app, but I have in the past. I seem to recall it just making the add a blank white box. Does this affect your profits directly, somehow? Or do you mean, that stops people from clicking the ad and buying whatever was showing?
Ahh, the whole ad-blocking debate again.
Personally, as long as unsavory types are still using ads as a way to deliver malware (it started on PCs and now it's moving to Android), I will block them, period. I pay for apps though, so I don't really see what's with the whole 'ad blocker = anti-capitalist free loading scum' attitude, but okay.
Adfree is a gimmick. Not only does it break certain apps, but it still has the placeholder of where the add would come up. However, instead of the image/banner/etc, you get a "?". No thanks! I don't mind helping the devs out!
Just having a look in the market there and seeing some paid apps that have been downloaded thousands upon thousands of times, the person and/or persons who designed an app(s) that costs money and has been downloaded say 500,000+ times must be a multi millionaire at this stage, in fact the apps market whether it be Android or that other lot is a goldmine for many people if their app is successful,if an app costs say €5 what are the overheads,is there a small fee to be paid to Android for listing the app or how does it work?
I remember last year on XDA a beta was released for Power Amp, i downloaded it and thought "this is a brilliant app, the best music player the best ive used" people urged the guy who designed it to put it on the market,he did and now it has sold bucketloads,so this guy has obviously made a packet from releasing a beta on XDA to a global audience in the market,nice one,im just gutted i never thought of this a few years ago,no recession on with these guys who have made mega money from apps alone.
Google gets 30% of the sale price for Market purchases.
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Google gets 30% of the sale price for Market purchases.
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they get that much that's absolute madness i thought it would be like 5%, still and all there are bound to be many multi millionaires, ive often wondered about free apps/games that are popular take for example that angry birds game which is immensely popular but is free, am i to assume these guys don't make any money or do they somehow?
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they get that much that's absolute madness i thought it would be like 5%, still and all there are bound to be many multi millionaires, ive often wondered about free apps/games that are popular take for example that angry birds game which is immensely popular but is free, am i to assume these guys don't make any money or do they somehow?
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They have paid version of Angry Birds too
jonny68 said:
they get that much that's absolute madness i thought it would be like 5%, still and all there are bound to be many multi millionaires, ive often wondered about free apps/games that are popular take for example that angry birds game which is immensely popular but is free, am i to assume these guys don't make any money or do they somehow?
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People that put out "free apps" make money with the ads that run in their apps. Atleast I think thats how it works... LOL...
jonny68 said:
ive often wondered about free apps/games that are popular take for example that angry birds game which is immensely popular but is free, am i to assume these guys don't make any money or do they somehow?
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Ads, Ads and Ads. These 'free' apps are loaded with advertising and the maker of said apps gets paid a small amount of money everytime an ad is displayed while the user runs the app. So instead of being paid just once they get a constant revenuestream. Albeit it only works if your customer are actually using the app which doesn't seem to be a problem for the Angry Bird guys ^^. (They are also getting money by selling their games on iOS btw.)
I never take any notice of the ads anyway, in fact i have the ad blocker app on my GS2 but it doesn't always work but i never even look at the ads.
F**k me first you had the .com millionaire now you have the "apps" millionaires, why did i mis out on both of these
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People that put out "free apps" make money with the ads that run in their apps. Atleast I think thats how it works... LOL...
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And if it's AdMob (most likely) adverts, Google keeps the lion's share of per-click revenue.