Hi, i just read this at the htc facebook page:
There has been overwhelmingly
customer feedback that people want
access to open bootloaders on HTC
phones. I want you to know that we've
listened. Today, I'm confirming we will
no longer be locking the bootloaders
on our devices. Thanks for your
passion, support and patience," Peter
Chou, CEO of HTC
That is a good thing. But the announcement is for future phones. No official news about the old ones with locked bootloaders.
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That is a good thing. But the announcement is for future phones. No official news about the old ones with locked bootloaders.
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+1 they will free bootloader in they new devices like sensation the older devices like wildfire wil still lock (the unlock older devices is bad for htc marketing and will decrease the selling on they new devices)
ok no prob i will drop the wilfire an i will buy somthing from samung or lg...
htc has no respect for customers ok htc if you dont unlock older phones too i will walk... they are many fishes out there......
(sorry for bad english)
egodemis said:
+1 they will free bootloader in they new devices like sensation the older devices like wildfire wil still lock (the unlock older devices is bad for htc marketing and will decrease the selling on they new devices)
ok no prob i will drop the wilfire an i will buy somthing from samung or lg...
htc has no respect for customers ok htc if you dont unlock older phones too i will walk... they are many fishes out there......
(sorry for bad english)
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Lets be fair, i don't see how 'as you put it' (the unlock older devices is bad for htc marketing and will decrease the selling on they new devices) is true.
And while i do not know, perhaps there not unlocking older phones because logistically they can't, i mean can it be done with a simple downloadable software upgrade? or would they need to modify each phone individually, and if so who in there right mind would expect them to do that?
HTC have said they will stop locking the boot loaders and if that is the case they deserve credit for that, at least they do listen to there customers, many others are to arrogant to.
my respect for HTC has been restored.
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And while i do not know, perhaps there not unlocking older phones because logistically they can't, i mean can it be done with a simple downloadable software upgrade? or would they need to modify each phone individually, and if so who in there right mind would expect them to do that?
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Mostly it can be done with an ota update. Because they had their signature. Im not 100% sure of it.
Or atleast, it can be done by some extra software provided by them. But if they wish to unlock wildfire, then definitely it will not be a harder process for them. And moreover it will not take much time also for them to unlock.
It is more of a decision to unlock than the process to unlock.
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Mostly it can be done with an ota update. Because they had their signature. Im not 100% sure of it.
Or atleast, it can be done by some extra software provided by them. But if they wish to unlock wildfire, then definitely it will not be a harder process for them. And moreover it will not take much time also for them to unlock.
It is more of a decision to unlock than the process to unlock.
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I think if they want it , they ll do it. They have their own signature , so there ll not be any problem
Les1976 said:
And while i do not know, perhaps there not unlocking older phones because logistically they can't, i mean can it be done with a simple downloadable software upgrade? or would they need to modify each phone individually, and if so who in there right mind would expect them to do that?
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the only thing the mast do it's to compile a new ota update with new(some in act) bootloader without htc signature (unsigned bootloader)
5 minutes job for every locked phone
and is bad for htc to unlock old phone bevause with unlocked phone i will install a latest rom i will overclock and more and i will have this phone perhap for one more year.... the other if the old devices remain locked i will need to buy another device to meet my requirements.....
but htc made a one mistake in all situation yes i will buy a new phone... but no a htc phone... does not respect the consumer with policy to "leave older devices locked"
(soz again for bad english)
As the mather of fact, I beleve that they can just release the encription key they they use to sign there ROMs, making it posible to "sign" our own ROMs. So then they don't even have to modify every bootloader so that it doesn't check the signature.
But I don't blame htc for not doing it. They have already gained my respect by changing there policy so quickly (but perhaps even that was there intension the whole time: making us think that we forced something while it was already decided ), but a really don't expect them to do something that would cut in there fingers like that
But who knows, I didn't thought it would be possible to force htc' policy change so fast in the first place, so I do not realy have any rights to speak
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As the mather of fact, I beleve that they can just release the encription key they they use to sign there ROMs, making it posible to "sign" our own ROMs. So then they don't even have to modify every bootloader so that it doesn't check the signature.
But who knows, I didn't thought it would be possible to force htc' policy change so fast in the first place, so I do not realy have any rights to speak
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I think we can expect them to release their signature/encryption key if they no longer use the signature check process in the upcoming devices. And if they need signature for any other things in upcoming devices they will have to create another signature increasing the encryption. And if signature is released mostly it helps to flash custom recovery only, i expect (don't know if custom recovery is flashed in this way with S-ON is the device rooted or not ?. I think not ). And here engineering the HBOOT is again risky (possibility of brick).
But eventhough i agree its not fair to ask htc for signature. And even if we attempt to ask them the signature, it is really a tougher job. I think almost impossible. And probably they might not be doing it because if it was released, everyone tries to do experiments using it and bricking their phones ultimately gathering all the phones at their service centers.
I just know from how I see it.
I bought a wildfire a cheap model to see what HTC was all about. It was my first android phone too. So I was wondering what I could do with it.
Heared a lot of interesting statements from others that had HTC phones.
Then I wanted to do a little more with my phone. change how it looks and so on. Guess what I could not.
This results in HTC failing to convince me to buy another model in the fututre as I know what I want to do can be done if I buy another brand.
So keeping the older bootloaders locked = no future sales for HTC going my way.
So keeping older bootloaders locked will in fackt not increase sales on fututre phones.
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I just know from how I see it.
I bought a wildfire a cheap model to see what HTC was all about. It was my first android phone too. So I was wondering what I could do with it.
Heared a lot of interesting statements from others that had HTC phones.
Then I wanted to do a little more with my phone. change how it looks and so on. Guess what I could not.
This results in HTC failing to convince me to buy another model in the fututre as I know what I want to do can be done if I buy another brand.
So keeping the older bootloaders locked = no future sales for HTC going my way.
So keeping older bootloaders locked will in fackt not increase sales on fututre phones.
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my friend didnt buy a htc only because the bootloader was locket.
so i thinnk it actually will increase sales
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I feel like a lot of the issues that have been caused with android could be solved by this simple solution, if every company gave the option to allow us to use their custom android, or we could also have the choice of having just plain vanilla android. This would be easy for them, and would also solve a great deal of user issues...
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I feel like a lot of the issues that have been caused with android could be solved by this simple solution, if every company gave the option to allow us to use their custom android, or we could also have the choice of having just plain vanilla android. This would be easy for them, and would also solve a great deal of user issues...
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I agree.....one thing that bothers me about android is all the manufacturers adding there custom skins on top of the android platform...while there sometimes nice...they also have a tendency to bog down the system and cause lag.
Perfect example, and Im sure youll love to hear this is "Timescape" haha.
But I guess one thing that seperates my phone from "his" phone is the custom skins that they use.
But the option for "android at its purest" should be there for ALL devices.
to be honest i don't see how this can benefit all user groups
the problem we have with our x10s now is not that we have a totally customised firmware, it's the fact that we have an encrypted bootloader, which samsung/htc/some other manufacturers don't have.
the only solution is either sony ericsson somehow unlock the bootloader for us or we crack the code that locks up the bootloader.
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to be honest i don't see how this can benefit all user groups
the problem we have with our x10s now is not that we have a totally customised firmware, it's the fact that we have an encrypted bootloader, which samsung/htc/some other manufacturers don't have.
the only solution is either sony ericsson somehow unlock the bootloader for us or we crack the code that locks up the bootloader.
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Im pretty sure were on our own for cracking the bootloader
I think that offering Vanilla android for those that want it would be good. I can't think of a reason why SE (or anyone else!) couldn't do that.
aR_ChRiS said:
to be honest i don't see how this can benefit all user groups
the problem we have with our x10s now is not that we have a totally customised firmware, it's the fact that we have an encrypted bootloader, which samsung/htc/some other manufacturers don't have.
the only solution is either sony ericsson somehow unlock the bootloader for us or we crack the code that locks up the bootloader.
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people that don't root would be able to still get a regular version of android with everything working...
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I feel like a lot of the issues that have been caused with android could be solved by this simple solution, if every company gave the option to allow us to use their custom android, or we could also have the choice of having just plain vanilla android. This would be easy for them, and would also solve a great deal of user issues...
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hi all, i think the manufactures should kkep the option of personalize their product,but google should have some regulations for android in order to work better,i'm not an expert but in that way al of us win.
regarding the problems with cracking the x10 bootloader,i dont expect it woul be easy for the coming xperia family,so after i see how good are the htc or samsung new smart phones i'll be buying one,too bad coz i have been using sony ericsson phones for the last 5 yrs and no problem,even with the x10 i have no real problems but the fact that it can't be fully custumize it really bothers me since that is the whole point of an android phone,isn't it? peace.
cracking bootloader is next to impossible coz Sony has learnt from past and now they dont take any chance.
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kunalgahlot said:
cracking bootloader is next to impossible coz Sony has learnt from past and now they dont take any chance.
Sent from my X10i
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While i have such a bad feeling i know your right......I'm keeping my fingers crossed for that "special thread" to be posted one day.
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aR_ChRiS said:
to be honest i don't see how this can benefit all user groups
the problem we have with our x10s now is not that we have a totally customised firmware, it's the fact that we have an encrypted bootloader, which samsung/htc/some other manufacturers don't have.
the only solution is either sony ericsson somehow unlock the bootloader for us or we crack the code that locks up the bootloader.
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Ahh yes but the kernal was changed when we flashed 2.1 right? What he's saying is that they could release vanilla like that. Then if they choose they could provide an option for their custom firmware. But the key with this is that even if they didn't want to keep making custom firmwares for a phone they are phasing out supplying a working vanilla wouldn't take near the effort to implement for further updates. So they could release se custom 2.1 as their final release but still provide vanilla 2.2, 2.3 etc.
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I agree that the phone companies want to keep their customizations as it's what differentiates them from the competition, and gives the device its own identity. Google is making improvements to allow Android to work around the skins to avoid the phone companies having to scramble behind them with every update.
I am sure someone, possibly Google, will shortly be coming out with a fully generic "developers" device just as you described.
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I am sure someone, possibly Google, will shortly be coming out with a fully generic "developers" device just as you described.
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Android Dev Phone
There is an option for that, if you want pure vanilla, either go to an ice-cream stand or Nexus S
Companies do the customization to differentiate their devices from others
But it's not a bad idea though
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MJ_QaT said:
There is an option for that, if you want pure vanilla, either go to an ice-cream stand or Nexus S
Companies do the customization to differentiate their devices from others
But it's not a bad idea though
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My whole point is you would still have the option to have their custom skin though! You just wouldn't be lost in the dust with updates b/c of companies choosing not to update their skins however, or if a skin was terrible you wouldn't have to root (for those less tech savvy folk)
They ( all companies ) fixed that problem with 2.3
So everything now works with Android's applications instead of creating different application that works independently ( similar to mediascape in 2.1 )
So with or without root you can choose your favourite app as default
I understand what you meant, giving an example, companies can have an easy setup on first start with two options like ( option A: use vanilla UI, option B: use manufacturer's UI ) so everyone can go with what he/she wants
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What then would happen with the customizations for the hardware such as the camera? I can't see SE for example putting a 8 megapixil camera in a device and then not supporting its features.
All it would need would be the camera drivers. That wouldn't be any work for their dev team...
Following along...if they had done this with the X10, what you would have would still be vanilla 2.1 with the bootloader locked or no? The bootloader and camera drivers would still be needed for any custom ROMs.
Yes.... Do you understand this thread? Instead of having a slow bogged down customized android version you could choose to have plain vanilla instead. It would solve a lot about issues like lagging, and also for updates (they could easily send out a vanilla update, would bypass the "development time" everyone uses to excuse sony for stopping at 2.1).
The company putting their camera drivers into it wouldn't be any work (if that would even be needed, freex10 and wolfbreak's cm both have better quality camera than stock 2.1)...
That first sentence wasn't necessary. It only shows how limited your social skills are in an open discussion, especially one that you started.
Yes, I understand the thread. Did you understand my post is the question? I was asking if you meant the vanilla version would be current regardless of what version the skinned version, because now you're adding that they would be two separate ROMs, rather than a bogged down laggy version and the vanilla version as you put it. Gezz.
I just spoke with HTC support andddddddddddd......
HTC will provide us with a bootloader unlocking software!!!
GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!
”There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we’ve listened. Today, I’m confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience,” Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
Support this : http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
What is the point of this?
The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones
Why should I support this?
Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7.
P.S. HTC support is silly as always lol...)))
Well Done tzacapaca
you did great job! Good Friend
Hope will be everything Great!
great and good news! But maybe one problem, I not know it will be for windows phone, maybe it is only for linux phone?
munjeni said:
great and good news! But maybe one problem, I not know it will be for windows phone, maybe it is only for linux phone?
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when i asked the HTC support guy if it will be for HTC HD Mini also he said is for ALL HTC phones(read the attached chat print screen)
here is the link for chat http://www.htc.com/uk/support/online_service.html
one more chat screenshot
not too much help from him though,he didn't know the answer...lol
they should hire XDA developers!
Good news. This would be a way to have Android in NAND in the future.
Maybe that helps our developers with other things too.
But, tzacapaca, CM7 has nothing to do with the bootloader
codiak said:
Good news. This would be a way to have Android in NAND in the future.
Maybe that helps our developers with other things too.
But, tzacapaca, CM7 has nothing to do with the bootloader
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lol yeah,not for us with WM phones,anyway site where i got that from was for Android users
they will release early september
yes,good news.
schlund said:
they will release early september
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really?Hope it is true.
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really?Hope it is true.
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We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.
We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We’ll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
source: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150305151453084
I hope the old HTC devices, like our HD mini, will have this unlock, too!!
Yes! Otherwise we will do it ourselve
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Schlund for president!
HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community
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we waiting qualcomm msm7227 and all on chip specs ...(more .pdf)
so great~~~！！
I'm a little confused on this one... I just contacted HTC, and they told me in the chat that HTC HD MINI bootloaderIS unlocked??? And ow yeah, "he's afraid he can't help us with porting Android" it was worth asking
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I'm a little confused on this one... I just contacted HTC, and they told me in the chat that HTC HD MINI bootloaderIS unlocked??? And ow yeah, "he's afraid he can't help us with porting Android" it was worth asking
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Htc guy probably smoked something before
Lol @ ur 2nd question..he answered me the same, then I corrected him..bootloader isn't unlocked
Maybe asking for RSA signing key? I've hex edited my spl in memory trying to change RSA modulus inside and yes I changed one, but spl have 3 inside hehhe, I not know what other 2 have use. so I think maybe HTC help here? If we found (htc non public photon RSA rom signing key) we have unlocked all! Or if we found info for what use is all 3 RSA inside spl we will unlock spl!
hello
i'm asking one question:i want to know that when come android nand for htc hd mini
i dont bear any patience
please munjeni,build nand android very quickly,please please
thanks for efforts
I know that many people are too excited after the bootloader is unlocked, so now we can get a windows phone 7 port like that in HD2.
Personally speaking, I was going to trade my beloved X10 for a HD2 so that I can get the goods of both worlds, but now I am going to stay for a long while with the X10.
How many X10 users want a WP7 port?
i'd maybe try it out for a little bit
guys get realistic.....
there are TONS of devices with unlocked bootloaders, and only hd2 has a wp7 port.
It isn't as easy as you think. It is not going to happen
scoobysnacks is right. It isn't going to happen unless you the OP makes it. Most/all of the developers here are android developers...not Windows Mango. Personally I don't want it...I rather want a bootloader unlock that will work with SIM unlocked by third party software. THAT, my friend is more important now. For me atleast...
Thats why i have a samsung focus as well lol.
Even if theoretically some incredible wp7 dev shows up, expect it to take at least six months to a year.
I would be willing to bet it never happens
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Even if theoretically some incredible wp7 dev shows up, expect it to take at least six months to a year.
I would be willing to bet it never happens
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Of course it will not.
And, if you ask me,
I'd take any real improvement to the device
over a half-*ssed port of another OS any day.
Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
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Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
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Hahahaha
Well, there goes my dreams...thanks alot scooby!
Dont care for W7 as much as unlocking bootloader for 3rd party simunlock and partitioning.
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Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
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"I open booter how no full multi touched?"
Been seeing that question a lot recently...
Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
My dream was always to have an Wm phone...since i was a kid. Unfortunately the only thing i could find before x10 was an OMNIA. God Damn.
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If u see all threats started by FXP/J u see he knows windows phone Developnment as well!!
MAGPC said:
I know that many people are too excited after the bootloader is unlocked, so now we can get a windows phone 7 port like that in HD2.
Personally speaking, I was going to trade my beloved X10 for a HD2 so that I can get the goods of both worlds, but now I am going to stay for a long while with the X10.
How many X10 users want a WP7 port?
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I doubt it would be possible because WP7 is not open source, and closed source software is not legal to modify and upload to XDA...
Of course, I may be wrong...
This definitely Will not happen. In more excited about hopefully having a proper ported ice cream Rom since the bootloader will allow a new upto date kernel
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Frosty666 said:
"I open booter how no full multi touched?"
Been seeing that question a lot recently...
Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
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The full multitouch won't apparate outta the blue. Drivers need to be written and that takes time.
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I doubt it would be possible because WP7 is not open source, and closed source software is not legal to modify and upload to XDA...
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HTC HD2 did that already.
video just for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgF0cSUJE4I&feature=related
unlocked bootloader gives us a lot more option to modified our phone as much as we like (but still depend on hardware limit). Any difrent OS on x10 should be fun. not that android is bad. but we can experience a lot of diffrent os without buy another phone.
You still have problems with partition layout - I doubt Windows and Android phones have same system+data+boot partition layout...
Arnold.Alexius said:
HTC HD2 did that already.
video just for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgF0cSUJE4I&feature=related
unlocked bootloader gives us a lot more option to modified our phone as much as we like (but still depend on hardware limit). Any difrent OS on x10 should be fun. not that android is bad. but we can experience a lot of diffrent os without buy another phone.
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yes but HD2 is an exception to the rule, it is the ONLY phone that this has been done on.
Yet how many phones have unlocked bootloaders?
These types of threads are ridiculous and not going to get us anywhere aside from giving people false impressions
I have been living in the HD2 forum for days before I got the Xperia, because I intended to get an HD2. then I got my beloved X10.
Anyway, what I know is that the HD2 and X10 have the same CPU+GPU chipset, which is an advantage to us.
So, if any developer is interested we may contact some guys in the HD2 WP7 forum asking for help.
I know that it may not happen at all, but would we stand still?. Hopes are achieved by positive attitude and work.
Presently I am using an AT&T HTC One X. I have never had my hands on a Samsung. I would like some clarification on rooting and using the custom roms.
I know this phone is new to the market and not much other than developers know much about it, but I still am curious. I am reasonably sure I will be switching to the GS 4 after the "hype" cools after the newness wears off.
Until the HTC One X, I used iPhones since the first iPhone 3 and never thouht about rooting or custom roms then came across the root thing and swapping roms, I had no problem with the root stuff or swapping after reading several posts and forums on the HTC One X so the ? is, is the Samsung's that hard or difficult to unlock the bootloader ?( see I don't even know for sure the Samsung has a bootloader).
I have read about the "Gold Card", using a Y cable , etc. is all that a necessary part of rooting ?
With the HTC One X there is a International and a U.S.A (AT&T) version, roms will not interchange, is this the case with the Galaxy S 4?
If there is two versions which is which? ATT code name or number in particular.
In the past with custom roms, what does the Samsung roms have over the HOX roms ? I know HTC sense and like it , I have heard about touch whiz, but what is it?
I know comparison's are illegal in the forums and this is on the verge of comparing but just asking for the difference on some points.
Samsung FOREVER <3 <3
sadekmefti said:
Samsung FOREVER <3 <3
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Guess this forum isn't as "noob" friendly as stated, unlike the HOX forums. With regards to the type of answer I got here, I might just reconsider the HTC One when due for an upgrade. At least in the forums I use I can at least get some kind of replies.
To be honest, this forum is pretty stupid .. Been here since 2009 and just got back to android and realised this forum became crap. Full of memes and nonhelpful posts.. meh
leesumm said:
Presently I am using an AT&T HTC One X. I have never had my hands on a Samsung. I would like some clarification on rooting and using the custom roms.
I know this phone is new to the market and not much other than developers know much about it, but I still am curious. I am reasonably sure I will be switching to the GS 4 after the "hype" cools after the newness wears off.
Until the HTC One X, I used iPhones since the first iPhone 3 and never thouht about rooting or custom roms then came across the root thing and swapping roms, I had no problem with the root stuff or swapping after reading several posts and forums on the HTC One X so the ? is, is the Samsung's that hard or difficult to unlock the bootloader ?
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Every phone to my knowledge has a bootloader
I have read about the "Gold Card", using a Y cable , etc. is all that a necessary part of rooting ?
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Gold Card is unique to HTC I think, it's not used in Sony phones. I've only ever needed the charger (Micro USB B cable) for unlocking both my Sony Arc and HTC desire HD
With the HTC One X there is a International and a U.S.A (AT&T) version, roms will not interchange, is this the case with the Galaxy S 4?
If there is two versions which is which? ATT code name or number in particular.
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USA usually have their own "custom" built phones. For Code names
In the past with custom roms, what does the Samsung roms have over the HOX roms ? I know HTC sense and like it , I have heard about touch whiz, but what is it?
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Touch whiz is the sense for Samsung, It's essentially Samsung adding their own stuff on top of regular android
I know comparison's are illegal in the forums and this is on the verge of comparing but just asking for the difference on some points.
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You could probably look up reviews.
SevenD2 said:
Every phone to my knowledge has a bootloader
Gold Card is unique to HTC I think, it's not used in Sony phones. I've only ever needed the charger (Micro USB B cable) for unlocking both my Sony Arc and HTC desire HD
USA usually have their own "custom" built phones. For Code names
Touch whiz is the sense for Samsung, It's essentially Samsung adding their own stuff on top of regular android
You could probably look up reviews.
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Thank you for the information, although with all the reading this morning on the GS4 and the HTC one I think I am more confused than before. I still don't know for sure what the difference is between the HTC and the Galaxy as for the root procedure. Then, enters the ODIN thing? Unlocking seems easier with the HTCDEV than whatever the procedure for the GS4, but the software review from Engadget makes the GS4 seem more appealing than the HTC out of box for me anyway. But , still with all the reading there is conflicts as to what I see whether the GS4 can be unlocked. From what I read, HTC is easier to unlock and S-OFF than the Samsung also. AS I understand it , TWRP cannot be used on the GS4 as with the same on HTC and CWM could not in the early stages. I am used to the TWRP for recovery but have used the CWM since it was altered for the HTC. Like some of the DEVS , plastic or aluminum it doesn't really matter as there will a case of some sorts on either one if nothing more than to protect from scratches.
All in all it sounds as if the Galaxy has the better software than the HTC One and IF the devs incorporate the features in the custom roms , it would make the GS4 a better device for me any way. I guess it comes down to the wait period for my upgrade to see what the DEVS come up with for customs and which one will win.
It has been a very long time since I have worked on a phone project, mostly been working on switch and ps4 exploits. I'm not up to date on all the latest phone stuff.
My last exploit and the only one I released publicly, was for the Grand Prime (Cricket variant). Just like last time (I hope) I can get access to the diagnostic flash files and used them to create a modified boot. Also just like last time, I will not release the diag files to the general public if I get them because they can be used for nefarious deeds (They can be used to fully remove frp from a device among other things) and they are proprietary. Not to mention someone could really screw their phone up messing with things. The only thing it doesnt do is unlock the bootloader.
My question is, since im so far out of date and only started doing research, is it even feasible since (at this time) it cannot be used to unlock the BL?
Yes - PAID though
Follow https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...sac23-note-20-ultra-n986u-custom-rom-t4164875
I already did that just waiting for something to come along, what ever happened to this being a place where people go to look at new ideas and discuss. Sure there's only a paid way right now, but might not always be that way....because people work together and come up with other ways. If the world gave up like you did Trump would be president in the USA.....oh wait
And the phone i rooted was deemed impossible by many because how locked down cricket keeps their phones and how locked down samsung keeps their devices.
But you also missed the point, I'm not looking to unlock the bootloader, I'm looking for exploits to allow root without unlocking the bootloader. And before you say it can't be done, your wrong. The impossible is only impossible until it becomes possible.
Yeah good luck with that lol.
Since samsung started Knox stuff for US models
Has been harder and harder to root these phones.
You might have to wait two years if not more to get even half baked root
Glad I paid the money and get my unlocked ultra rooted and bootloader unlocked
For someone like me it's worth it since I'm always flashing and experiencing..
Sure xda users love free stuff but nothing in life is free.
That unlock guy is risking his job.
Who knows one day we won't even have that service because he could get caught.
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Yeah good luck with that lol.
Since samsung started Knox stuff for US models
Has been harder and harder to root these phones.
You might have to wait two years if not more to get even half baked root
Glad I paid the money and get my unlocked ultra rooted and bootloader unlocked
For someone like me it's worth it since I'm always flashing and experiencing..
Sure xda users love free stuff but nothing in life is free.
That unlock guy is risking his job.
Who knows one day we won't even have that service because he could get caught.
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How much was it? An where did you do it?
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There's one guy on here who does it. Search around and you will find him (look up). I costs about 100-150 depending on model. I have the N986U1 it was 125.
That unlock guy is risking his job.
Who knows one day we won't even have that service because he could get caught.[/QUOTE said:
I doubt that. There are many public tools you can use like z3x to gain full access to a device and write the required token, they just cost money for the hardware and software. They also require hardware keys that need to be renewed every 6 or 12 months and live in the grey area of the law. I know of one vendor who let's you use a VPN to appear in their service region (hk only) just because of covid, but once the lockdowns end they say the VPN access will also go away...odds are thats when he won't be able to do them anymore
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