So I'm trying to find a new tab. One that stands above the rest! This is turning out to be a real battle!! So what do I "settle" for?
Galaxy Tab 10.1 - Sexy and Thin; but no ports, so limited in actual practicality. And Honeycomb is skinned (skin = gross).
Transformer - Seems to be the leader, but no USB port on the tab! Whaa? ya! Why remove functionality to force a purchase of an additional kb???
Xoom - had it, returned it, needs better screen and to be lighter.
iPad2 - ummm, no thank you.
Acer Iconia - feels/looks cheap and is skinned! (skin = gross).
Sooo... wth? Where do I go from here? I have 800 bucks burning a hold in my pocket from returning the Xoom and accessories. Do I "really" have to wait until the fall or even Xmas to see anything that has both sex appeal AND a complete list of ports and functionality?
Did I miss a tab in the shuffle? Is there actually one that has the 3 ports I want (USB, HDMI, SD) + isn't brick heavy? And of course gimme a vanilla version of Honeycomb 3.1 without trashing it with a skin!!
Signed, frustrated (w/money)
Did you try the Playbook? And what's wrong with galaxy tab (any size) its awesome?!
Why can we just accept the fact that companies will not build an all in one tablet with everything we want hahaha be happy with tab,xoom ipad or acer etc if u want buy them all
I don't have a Blackberry, so for me the Playbook would be pointless, and it's not "my" target size.
Yes, the GT "would" be awsome if Samsung left the OS alone, and possibly tried to improve on the iPad2 form factor, instead of match it.... and add on some practical ports! I realize that it was likely to keep it thin and light, but there must be an alternative, it just sucks I have to wait for it.
@vetchen - why do I have to accept that I need to buy 3 different tabs to be able to get all the functionality? Obviously it's possible to the put all the same functionality into 1 tab. It just amazes me that it hasn't been done yet!
I can guarantee you that all 4 of the non-Apple companies above KNOW what consumers want! Why can't they just create it already! Transformer came SO close! But wanted that extra $150, so removed the most functional port on their tab!
Thanks for the words boyz, and hear you - but just don't like to "settle", at this price point... and am an insanely impatient person!
Most all the time the manufacturers will release what they think is saleable to the most people at a price point that allow the best possible margin rather than to make what is possible with the best possible tech because maybe to expensive, to heavy, big, too niche or whatever...
What consumers want is dictated by marketing more than you think, someone make a good advert telling you that you need a touch device without copy and paste because its MAGIC and you get a load of zombies waiting for two weeks at your shop door.
At the end of the day its like purchasing a house
Bill Gates can afford to buy a bespoke tablet/house made to his specs if he want
Most people buy what is available and compromise
some handy people buy houses/devices looking at its possibilities and develop repair it themselves to achieve what they want from it
Is it not the reason why we are here in the first place? to get from a device more to our taste than what the manufacturer intended in the first place?
regards
p
Let me see what you want:
1. Sexy and Thin
2. With lots of ports
3. Doesn't feel cheap
4. Doesn't use a skin
5. Great touchscreen
Am I right?
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Mick Jagger would say : you can't always get what you want.
Seriously, the galaxy tab 10.1 looks good but you'll have to wait. And about the touchwiz ui, we'll eventualy have a vanilla honeycomb like the google io special edition, thanks to the devs of xda.
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It depeands for what you are going to use it. I am not playing games on tab (except chess with friends), mostly surfing web, email and reading books and pdfs, so galaxy tab is perfect for me couse of its size and its light.
If you want it for HD games, than it looks like tegra2 is must now. If you need all ports, then transformer with kb looks like a great choice for you.
If you don't want to buy kb, then you could wait for toshiba tablet, it has all ports that you want.
obviously I "am" asking too much!
Sounds about right!
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Let me see what you want:
1. Sexy and Thin
2. With lots of ports
3. Doesn't feel cheap
4. Doesn't use a skin
5. Great touchscreen
Am I right?
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@PBL: If what your saying is true, different manufacturers "research" into target markets (of course!) can't be that skewed from one company to the next. I'm sure there are lots of variables at play, so most of this is all devil's advocate - I get that!
But I'm sure that Samsung knows that most users want ports (however "mini" they have to make 'em), that's why they put them in their latest and greatest phones, and 7" tab! Making a device scaleable is a no brainer, and lets not pretend Samsung was naive of that fact when they built the Galaxy 10.1. But yes, forgive me if I want my Galaxy un-skinned and to squeeze some micro-ports in there
"Saleable" as you say, especially considering all these devices are at the same price point, "I" (as a manufacturer) would want "all" of the options on my iDevice that I'm realeasing, because regardless what folks are doing with it. MOST (from my company's targeted research) would want to plug a thumb drive in there, and most want great graphics.... unless I'm just totally clueless! (that was rhetorical).
I don't have to be a developer to want a USB port, and I don't have to be a gamer to want beautiful graphics and no skin! Not to mention I "am" the average Joe user! And considering how "open" and customizable all of this is foundationed on, I should have the option of removing or "uninstalling" my skin.
Considering JK Shin (prez Samsung Mobile) says that they made the Galaxy 10.1 to be used for every "kind" of user, I am just disapointed that it wasn't designed for me!
Most all the time the manufacturers will release what they think is saleable to the most people at a price point that allow the best possible margin rather than to make what is possible with the best possible tech because maybe to expensive, to heavy, big, too niche or whatever...
What consumers want is dictated by marketing more than you think, someone make a good advert telling you that you need a touch device without copy and paste because its MAGIC and you get a load of zombies waiting for two weeks at your shop door.
At the end of the day its like purchasing a house
Bill Gates can afford to buy a bespoke tablet/house made to his specs if he want
Most people buy what is available and compromise
some handy people buy houses/devices looking at its possibilities and develop repair it themselves to achieve what they want from it
Is it not the reason why we are here in the first place? to get from a device more to our taste than what the manufacturer intended in the first place?
regards
p
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1 tablet to rule them all?? Where is it?
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The answer to this question is:
"In my mind and in your mind"
Such a tablet does not exist in reality at this moment.
You will have to let that $800 burn in your pocket for many more months to come.
While you are waiting, I will be playing with my 3G T-mobile Galaxy Tab, my 3G Xoom, my ipad, and my 64 GB Playbook.
Since there is no 1 tablet to rule them all, I have the financial capability to buy all 4 of the tablets that I mentioned and enjoy it according to the situation. Each one of them has part features of that "still none existing" 1 tablet to rule them all.
Well I guess if I had 2k to spend on tabs, I'd be happy man - who knew I'd have to own 4 tabs to be productive!
Earthbrain said:
The answer to this question is:
"In my mind and in your mind"
Such a tablet does not exist in reality at this moment.
You will have to let that $800 burn in your pocket for many more months to come.
While you are waiting, I will be playing with my 3G T-mobile Galaxy Tab, my 3G Xoom, my ipad, and my 64 GB Playbook.
Since there is no 1 tablet to rule them all, I have the financial capability to buy all 4 of the tablets that I mentioned and enjoy it according to the situation. Each one of them has part features of that "still none existing" 1 tablet to rule them all.
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That is a lot of tablets
If you had to give up the others and have only one, which would you keep?
To the op, just get an iPad, you seem like that kinda guy.
Or wait until a Kal-EL 7inch tab that's thinner than the Sammy 8.9 and has a samoled screen comes out, that will be the tab to rule them all
One tab to rule them all?
My Galaxy tab 7' has 2.3.3 1.4ghz cpu speed, tegra2 compatable, with smartass for sweet cpu regulation. Soon to have 3.1
Luv this thing. Seems to be able to do almost ANYTHING!
Now if I could just solder a kal-el tegra3 quad core mobile processor in there, i would be set!
As a famous trouble-maker once said, "I have a dream"
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Well I guess if I had 2k to spend on tabs, I'd be happy man - who knew I'd have to own 4 tabs to be productive!
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I have the 4 tablets for fun, not to be productive. Productivity is using my i7-980X destop computer.
I work hard so I also have to play hard.
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That is a lot of tablets
If you had to give up the others and have only one, which would you keep?
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At this moment in time, I would probably keep the 7" Samsung Galaxy Tab.
Reasons:
1. It has Overcome Gingerbread RC1 ROM and can overclock to 1.4 ghz (simulate the Flyer)
2. It has CoPilot Live (can simulate a good stand alone portable GPS)
3. It has 7" screen (is very portable, and simulate the Flyer and the Playbook)
4. It has great video playback of high-profile h.264 and a great bright screen (can simulate the Playbook and Flyer)
5. It can use Chainfire 3D to play Tegra games (can simulate the Xoom)
6. It can make phone calls (simulate a cell phone)
7. It has decent amount of apps/games, unlike the Playbook which is horrible with apps since QNX is fairly new (can try to simulate the ipad)
I also chose the Samsung Galaxy Tab because I use it the most. It is in my jacket pocket and I using it everyday. The other 3 tabs I only use it sparingly such as:
1. Use the Xoom for surfing the net...has bigger screen so better at surfing the internet.
2. Use the Playbook to watch high-profile h.264 videos because I can have files bigger than 6 GB since the Playbook uses NTFS storage and the screen is fantastic.
3. Use the ipad for games...it has so many games.
7" Tab works for it's market I think, that it IS portable, the best tablet is the one you have with you.
As much as these 10" ones look good, I can't lug 'em around as easy, if I do get a bag, I might as well bring my netbook.
Though...I were to get one, I /really/ like the look of the Transformer. No ports, but the concept of hooking it up to a base station to get the ports/extra battery life really appeals to me. Then again, do I go back to lugging the netbook around?
With the hints Asus are dropping with their new device, I think they're jumping on the idea of 'shells'. A phone sized device to lug around and use as a phone, then drop into a shell for what you need. Extra screen space, screen + keyboard.
If the big manufacturers got smart, they'd work with each other to get a standard working here. Atrix was a good idea but I think a poor implementation. If Motorola/Asus got together to make a decent standardised slot to drop your device into, I think the market would massively explode.
Oops, veered off a bit there.
But yeah, that's why 7" tablets ARE so great, they're a market Apple ignored (didn't understand?), and as shown, we all love different devices. Get the device YOU need, and it's the tablet to rule them all for YOU.
A mix of what it was advertised with
Microsoft Courier
Notion Ink Adam
top of the range Wacom
Mix well shake add what meego should have been but 20 years in the future from now plus the capability of running android apps
Serve cold
What!... one can dream , can I?
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We are at the good-enough stage of Android devices. You're not going to find the perfect device because everyone is chasing Apple while keeping an eye on one another. Apple spent a long time developing a great device and only released it when they were ready. It's a winning strategy for them. Android will improve more quickly than iOS and you'll eventually get to the point where you can get a very good device from several manufacturers.
The iOS devices will remain ideals, but ideals only for those people willing to give up some freedom for a very refined experience. I love my Macs and find them better than any PC you can buy, and you don't have to give up much freedom to use a Mac. I use Android devices because the iOS walled garden is too stifling.
Within a year or two, we'll see Android devices that meet or exceed the quality and capabilities of iOS devices and the way Google is moving, we'll have a great OS to run on these great devices.
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pendevous said:
Let me see what you want:
1. Sexy and Thin
2. With lots of ports
3. Doesn't feel cheap
4. Doesn't use a skin
5. Great touchscreen
Am I right?
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u r right, i want it to
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There are 2-3 weeks before all the major tablets launch and I am considering buying the tab. I want a 7 inch so if i wait ill go for the flyer. But I was wondering if it is still worth paying $600 for the device. The new tablets will launch for $1000-120o so please advice me as to whether I should get the tab or wait ?
Just to add I currently have an HD7 as my primary phone and have been using the Desire HD as my backup phone and I will sell the desire hd to buy the galaxy tab. Plz consider this when advising. Thanks
Well, in the computer world there is always something coming around the corner that is better, faster and/or cheaper. That's just the nature of technology.
But, the Galaxy tab is great for me. I bought mine when they first became available in the states for $550 off contract. You can find them now for $500 off contract. To me the 7" size is a better choice then the 10" that most of the new hot tabs have. 7" is better for holding in your hand for ebook reading. The SGT is about half the weight of the iPad and Xoom which makes a huge difference.
The Galaxy tab has flash video for web but the iPad and Xoom do not.
From an ease of use and slickness the SGT runs behind the iPad but ahead of Honeycomb tablets like Xoom (read the Xoom reviews; people like the look of Honeycomb but they admit that it is not as easy to use as android 2.2).
If you are hooked on the 7" size like I am then you might consider the Dell Streak 7 which adds 4g to the mix.
As far as which provider to go with, I think one of the GSM providers (ATT or TMobile) would be better than the CDMA providers (Sprint or Verizon) as the CDMA tabs seem more locked down and have less development going on.
I would wait at this point - Samsung is suppose to be coming out with 8" Honeycomb tablet this summer.
If you can find one used or on sale
at a great price its fine for web browsing and email
and it's the only 7" capable phone out too, if you don't mind flashing it.
Just dont let anyone see you using it as a phone
Sorry is costing me $600 slight typo
Even though I returned my Tab, I'd still heartily recommend one to people looking for a great Tablet.
For me, it was TMobile winding me up that made my decision for me.
Awesome device, carriers did their best to make it fail it appears.
But some 10buck data plans? And the price it's going for atm? Well worth it I'd say. Seems everyone's pushing now for larger than 7inch devices, but the form factor is perfect. It's still luggable around (pocket requirements, but it's doable). Great screen, VERY decent sound compared to other tablets.
Sure, there's 3.0 tablets, but... Don't know. I think the Tab running 2.2 should be renamed 'Tab Classic' It's still very good, no matter what else comes after it.
I think now $500 new off contract and $400 used would be a nicer price?
No reason to rush into a Galaxy Tab with so many options coming unless its a good deal,
except maybe since it has a phone, I'd bet it will be the last 7"+ device with one.
YES
I just bought mine a week ago....luv it gave my ipad to my girlfriend ...I didnt realize how much i missed flash...7 inch is perfect for e reading ...portability is better ....10 inch to me is rather wide not easy to handle....
I have had the Tab for about a month and love it. I played with the iPad regularly since my girlfriend has one, but I consistantly came away with the Tab over iPad for 4 main reasons:
1- I much prefer 7" to 10" inch for mobility, one hand holding, ability to put in a pocket, etc.
2- I had a jailbroken iPhone and got rid of it when the original Droid came out. I still have a DroidX as my main phone due to the fact that I much prefer Android to Apple for the interface, customization, and app selection. Yes, iTunes has many apps and iPad has many tablet apps, but from experience, I found that many apps were 57 versions of the same thing, just with a different sports team branding or something, and I have yet to be unable to find a good Android app for any of my needs.
3- Even compared to another Android tablet like the Xoom, the ease of typing on a Tab is great. Granted, I have larger hands than most, but I can thumb type in portrait or landscape at about 35 words per minute, not too far behind my keyboard speed.
4- Last but not least, I use my Tab for everything. AllShare lets me use it as a remote to stream from the computer to the tv, with a cardock it is essentially a carputer, I can edit documents on a small device without carrying a laptop, and with it is great for showing off pictures and things better than a phone. That is only the tip of the iceberg.
I am sure if I put further thought into it, I would come up with alot more and this is a long post already, but something else the Tab has done for me that I really enjoy is that I enjoy it so much, I have gone from a lurker to a poster on many Android forums, including starting out here on XDA.
Forgot to mention price
Sorry, forgot to mention your concern about price. I got a brand new T-Mobile Tab (researching on XDA I found GSM had more dev work being done) on eBay for $425, so only $100 more than a Nook Color with the protection plan, which is what I had before the Tab and returned it after a week.
SonicTab said:
If you can find one used or on sale
at a great price its fine for web browsing and email
and it's the only 7" capable phone out too, if you don't mind flashing it.
Just dont let anyone see you using it as a phone
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I have the phone enabled on my Tab and I use it all the time. I bought the tab without a contract and flashed it with the JMI rom and a modem.
If you buy a device that is capable of voice communication and you use it that way why should you be wary of someone seeing you use it that way?
The device is FCC legal, has a prepaid sim card and is running a legal operating system.
There is nothing wrong with using a device in a way it was designed to be used as long as you pay for it.
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There is nothing wrong with using a device in a way it was designed to be used as long as you pay for it.
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I think he was just making a joke about how foolish you look holding it up to your head..
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00r101 said:
The Galaxy tab has flash video for web but the iPad and Xoom do not.
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Motorola is getting an hint of respect from me... The less Flash (and Air) the better.
Anyway the tab is really awesome to watch videos, can decode with no trouble 1080p at over 40mbps... Plus i'd say this form factor is the best one. And it works as a phone.
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get one! the portability is awesome. 10" screen is too big to carry around. at least for me.
Got the tab and am loving it !!!
Congrats ...i was in the same boat 2 weeks ago best decision I ever made....better than the ipad....
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The Tab is currently the least worst 7" Android tablet out there. I love it. Now priced at where it should be (here in UK at least). Pop in a 3GB sim card (9 quid on amazon) and it's the perfect always online mobile device. It'll be interesting to see other 7" or so devices hit the market soon. That's what I would be comparing it against.
The 10" ones are not mobile enough due to size and weight (I use a car dock with the Tab - can't do that with a 10" without infringing on some local law ). I'm also a bit wary of how the Tegra 2 chipset found in most of them is performing. Video especially seems a bit of a letdown. At least we'll all soon have a lot of choices in formats and features. Still early days...
My one concern is that we may not see Honeycomb on the Tab. I suspect Samsung will skip over it for the Gingerbread V2/Ice Cream (depending on rumours) OS which brings in Honeycomb features for smartphones. The Tab has physical buttons and Honeycomb would seem wrong with that. Of course, knowing Samsung we may see nothing at all....
Yes I am still happy with my tab.
I would have suggested an version #2 if it was 7 inch with better camera and SuperAmoled screen.
Will sell mine only if next version includes all that features without losing batery life.
Yes if you desire portability. Personally I love my tab,now my dad wants one too so I think I'm going to give him mine as soon as I get the replacement back from Samsung(tab stopped turning one, dead battery I'm guessing). I'm gonna get the iPad 2 since I already have the Evo, which I use on the go and I miss iOS adventure games
Found a 16GB wifi ipad on cl today for 250 bucks. I said screw it and tried it. I love android. I'm a fanboy through and through, but dammit if this ipad just doesn't do everything smooth as butter. Really puts my tab to shame. I fear for Android in the tablet market....I don't think it can compete.
So your selling your tab?
Sgs Vibrant ::
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Funny how i am experiencing a direct opposite situation. Had an ipad, got a good deal for the tab, and now loving the tab to bits even if its still a work in progress.
What customizations and tweaking have you done,
oh wait...
and if you are selling your tab id be happy to buy it, i could carry one in each pocket, can you? trolloolololol
natious said:
What customizations and tweaking have you done,
oh wait...
and if you are selling your tab id be happy to buy it, i could carry one in each pocket, can you? trolloolololol
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Jail breaking is pretty much the same as rooting. What a null argument.
You realise that posting this here is just asking for trolls, right? And the iPad does not do everything smoother (yes, I know this to be true, I own an iPad too).
Anyhoo, Android 2.2/2.3 can't compete on 10.1" tablets, but Android 3 most certainly can.
What the iPad does, it does very well indeed. However, what it doesn't do is fit in a jacket pocket, which makes my Tab a superior device for *my* purposes.
I shouldn't worry too much about Android tablets though - if you really want to compare, we should probably wait for the Tab 10.1 or 8.9 running Honeycomb and then see, because IMO the Tab 7 is a different class of device to the iPad.
FWIW, if someone offered me an iPad for $250, I'd almost certainly have bought it too - for my wife!
Regards,
Dave
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Jail breaking is pretty much the same as rooting. What a null argument.
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Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
natious said:
Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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Could say the same about the other way around you know. For example try to use the proxy settings, or the vpn one. Gingerbread and honeycomb i dunno, but donut to froyo can't handle those properly... iOS did it for years.
In the end it's all about what you need: fast and reliable? iOS. Customization/choice? Android. Also an iOS device will become obsolete in a lot more time than an Android one, my iPhone3g will be obsolete when iOS 4.3 will be released. Any Android will be obsolete in a few months and have to rely on the community to keep on getting updates, for sure you aren't going to see updates after 2 newer models are released and a third one is shaping at the horizon.
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Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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No, you can't. I'm not even going to argue with you on the numerous scenarios either. You've shown your cards already....
thats a good deal, i had a 16gb and 64gb wifi and sold both them.. looking to get the ipad 2 now. still keeping my galaxy tab because >> ipad 1 and 2 lol
Is just a mather of tast...
I like homemade soup, my kids out of bag...
(they sell soup here in bags btw)
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u can buy soup in a bag?
I had an ipad as well. I really liked it till I got a tab. It's a matter of size, customization and functionality to me. I like the ability to customize my technology (whatever it is) to work the way I do. The ipads interface and apps just didn't allow me to work the way I want.
In the end, I gave it to my daughter. She loves it to death. I attribute this to the fact that she doesn't do a whole lot of thinking.
The ipad is pretty much a perfect facebook companion.
EDIT: I just talked to my daughter, and she's back to her (windows 7) laptop for facebook. Something about the ipad not being able to do anything with pictures from her camera. She asked me if the tab had a card slot and I told her it did. She then asked if she could trade the ipad for my tab. I laughed. So, I'm getting the ipad back, tossing it on fleabay, and getting another tab.
No sd or microsd on the ipad? I didn't even notice that, as I only used it for a few days before I gave it to her. I just looked, and there's none on the ipad 2 either? Lol. In the ipad 3 or 4, maybe steve jobs can get one of his cronies to add a microsd socket, and he can charge for every file that gets transferred from or to it. lol.
My kids are all very, very tech savvy. It says a lot to me that they don't want an ipad even when it's *given* to them.
he is right Ipad is nicer piece of hardware...but that it.
he is right Ipad is nicer piece of hardware...but that it.
my son(macbook/ipad/iphone3gs) and daughter (macbook/ipod)are mac kids.
The devices are beutifull and well made...and run like butta!
My problem is with apple and the hold they have on the software.
Flash is a must (now not in 5years) and I love the fact that developers give you otions on what you want to run on a device you paid for - With android.
itunes is cool but you are stuck with the ios device...even after you spend all the cash for movies and music...only ios can play!
Hell no... I am an american and freedom is the american way.
Death to S. Jobs. (maybe not death...at least a sprained ankle.)
ANDROID FO LIFE!
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I had an ipad as well. I really liked it till I got a tab. It's a matter of size, customization and functionality to me. I like the ability to customize my technology (whatever it is) to work the way I do. The ipads interface and apps just didn't allow me to work the way I want.
In the end, I gave it to my daughter. She loves it to death. I attribute this to the fact that she doesn't do a whole lot of thinking.
The ipad is pretty much a perfect facebook companion.
EDIT: I just talked to my daughter, and she's back to her (windows 7) laptop for facebook. Something about the ipad not being able to do anything with pictures from her camera. She asked me if the tab had a card slot and I told her it did. She then asked if she could trade the ipad for my tab. I laughed. So, I'm getting the ipad back, tossing it on fleabay, and getting another tab.
No sd or microsd on the ipad? I didn't even notice that, as I only used it for a few days before I gave it to her. I just looked, and there's none on the ipad 2 either? Lol. In the ipad 3 or 4, maybe steve jobs can get one of his cronies to add a microsd socket, and he can charge for every file that gets transferred from or to it. lol.
My kids are all very, very tech savvy. It says a lot to me that they don't want an ipad even when it's *given* to them.
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ipad 2 has the .03 megapixel camera, tell her she doesnt need her camera any more hahahahahahah
I'm also going to share my thoughts.
I actually have a Nook Color - But it's comparable to the tab (dont decapitate me.. ).
I like iOs, because it's simple and always works. I still have to reinstall it every 6 months, because I somehow always manage to junk it so full, that it actually doesn't work anymore. (jailbreak etc.).
What I don't like about iOs, that you have to jailbreak it so you can customize it, but you can't customize a lot and what I'm also missing are basic widgets.
What i like about Apple products is that they are very well designed, also robust and nice looking (always). My Ipod3G fell down about 30-50 times, and nothing broke (i also have a case).
What I like most about Apple products has actually nothing to do with the device itself:
With apple products one always gets a huge community support, enabling the jailbreak, and making great cydia apps that allow you to make your device finally yours.
and second off course the apps, iOs has got really great apps, and all of them are functioning. Steve Jobs proudly said that there are 65.000 apps for the ipad.
I changed over to android, because it fed me up to not being able to update, because otherwise I would lose the Jailbreak, and an iOS-device without jailbreak is like a headphone without cable^^(in****s XD).
What I see as a problem for any android tablet is simply that there are hardly any tablet apps, for an ipad you get music production software and all sorts of fun apps, and for the tab you cant even get a nice mail app in the market ( i use Mail'd though).
I just didnt buy the ipad, because it's to expensiv, too big and I was actually looking for an ereader. But the sad thing is that I haven't found any better use for it, than it being an ereader. With the tab off course you get 3g and a camera and stuff like that, but I really miss tablet optimized apps.
I hope that honeycomb will start to get the developers to make some slick apps, but I dought that there will be a big variety.
By the way, there's that sdcardreader adapter for the ipad, allows you to import fotos to your ipad, the usbrcameradongle, allows you to connect your camera. With a jailbreak you can also mount Usb sticks and Harddrives if they are powered, so if they need extra power, a extra Usb cable you have to provide that otherwise it wont work.
I will never buy an apple product again. I got so irked at them when they purposely released an iOS that made my iPhone completely nonfunctional. Wanna read the news? There's an app for that! *waits 3 minutes to load* *click on article.....crashed to homescreen...* FFFUUUUUUUUUUU
I mean ffs the new iOS made my phone so bad that I couldn't answer calls. The iPhone wasn't even functional as a PHONE.
That and I got sick and tired of having to backup my stupid phone just to add one song.
Don't get me wrong, I know that as the OS advances, it requires more resources but they could have at least gave us a few options to disable the fancy 3d effects and stuff. I'm still stuck on my iphones contract but I got so frustrated that I just got a tab and downgraded the iPhone plan to a dumbphone plan.
I am not an Apple basher as I have been a Mac owner. I had an iPad for 3 weeks and sent it back. It does some things very well and I do feel that it is a little more mature. But I sent it back because it is a big iPod (no flames please), not a real computing device. There are several things that make this or any future version of iPad a non-starter for me.
IOS lacks a true visible file system. The application owns the data and unless an application is written to be aware of other apps, the files are unavailable to other apps, even if they know how to read the file format. Also, deleting the app deletes the data. Sorry, but that is an accident waiting to happen. Unacceptable. Add the absolute control that Apple maintains and I am done. Plus, throw in the size and weight (it is HEAVY).
The Galaxy Tab is a dream come true. Size, weight, performance are perfect. When you can fold the iPad and put it in a coat pocket I will look twice and then probably pass. I might take a picture of it with my Galaxy Tab.
watching apple vs android is almost similar like watching republic vs democrat no offense intended
i never own any apple products though, but i've seen some from my friends
nice hardware, yes, but thats it
the gui is so blah made me not interested in iOS at all
and what makes me hate iOS more is the cockyness of their ifan
I once told my friend that i want to buy htc smartphone when he squirk and laugh at me and said "Dude, you have the money, why would you buy an "HTC" phone when you can get all the prestige using "iPhone"?"
that alone makes me skyrocketing into apple hater
I better spend my money on a device that gave me feature and freedom instead of being a dog and woof to every little thing Steve Jobs point at
and that video from conan about Ipad 2 was blast ^^
but still, a person's choice is very well their own rights, and we have to respect that
fare thee well my bro, who crossed over to the dark side
wish you all the best
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.
I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced
The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.
tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one
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Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
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For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in
I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.
Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.
Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.
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hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.
So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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+1
and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)
But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.
First off, I have an android phone, motorola atria.
I have a 32gb wifi iPad, and a chance to trade it for either an acer a500 or samsung galaxy tab 10.1 4g. It would be a straight trade. Would you do it?
I like the apps for the iPad, and there are great games for it. This is my only major road block right now. Hardware wise, I would trade for either one easily, but it's the software side that's keeping me from the simple trade.
Are there apps for android that are specifically made for tablets like iOS and their "hd" version of apps?
It seems the quality of apps and especially games are better right now for iPad?
Ps. In general I do prefer android, I would never trade my atrix for an iPhone. I'm speaking just tablet wise right now.
An iPad 1? It's a roughly equivalent trade though they might be coming out slightly ahead on a purely dollar perspective. Performance-wise, you may like the faster Android tablets if this not an iPad 2. However, if the software is there for you on the iPad, you could simply look to sell your iPad and pick up a newer iPad later. I would suspect Apple is due for an iPad 3 upgrade in the near future.
There are some apps Google claims as "tablet" in their tablet tab but they appear to just be standard apps a lot of times. Some apps do list themselves as HD, usually suggesting they work well with tabs but I don't know that Android has the same quantity of tab apps that iOS does. Most of the time you're just working with phone apps that also work on a tab. If sales increase on Android tablets, I would expect that to change but it may not be the fastest process, particularly if phone apps are working.
App quality on Android certainly runs the spectrum from really solid to absolute junk. Given Google's app stance, that's just the way things go. Right now, companies looking to sell apps and games still look to iOS first. Even at a lower market percentage, iOS is still more profitable for developers than Android. Android users just seem to be more reluctant to purchase apps where iOS doesn't seem to suffer that same problem - Apple's got them used to opening their wallets wide and frequently That's not to say that there isn't junk on iOS.
Part of the reason for the junk, though, is the way Apple and Google go about allowing publishing. You need to be a subscriber to some annual developer service on Apple to publish. $99 a year, I believe. Not a huge amount but it's a consideration. I don't know that Google has any monetary requirements involved. So Google gets a lot more people wanting to develop for it but they can end up with guys that are just learning Java and scrounged something together that managed to run. On the other hand, you get some great developers that have an easy entry in and can put out brilliant software. There's good and bad that comes with both positions.
As the previous poster said, it depends on if it is an iPad 1 or 2. Just to put things in perspective right now:
In canada, a wifi iPad2 32GB is $619.99, An Iconia A500 32GB can cost as low as $349.99. If you have an iPad2 you are probably better off selling the iPad separately and buying an Iconia. If you are looking at a Galaxy Tab then a straight up trade might not be so bad as they cost more and have more "appeal" than an Acer tab. By appeal I mean resale value of a Galaxy tab is likely higher because of the "Galaxy" name.
As for the software side of things. I have plenty of apps that work great on the tablet. There are some HD versions of apps and the number of tab apps keeps growing. The only issue I have is sometimes trying to find apps for tablets, but the market is slowly getting better at that too.
Regarding apps, you have to consider that android tablets are a year "younger" than ipads. The quantity is not nearly close to the numbers for ipad. The good news is that most of the phone apps will work just fine and with ICS optimizing an app for both small screens and large ones is easier, so ideally developers should make better apps (actually it's easier in HC too, but but there are no HC phones ) . The bad news is that as someone here said android users don't open their wallets as often or as wide as Apple ones, so the development almost always goes with ios in mind and android follows. However this will also change in the future.
I have access to both the A500 and GT 10.1 and samsung beats the iconia only in the battery. The screen is oversaturated (someone may like it that way, I but I hate it), and no USB, they even have the ridiculous apple's connector for charging and connecting to pc.
And one more thing - android developers also have to pay a 25$ one-time fee for registration in the market.
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I sold my ipad 1 so I could buy my iconia tab. There is much more I can do with the iconia
Than a ipad. I guess its the freedom android offers that lured me overfrom apple. I like the
Galaxie tab 10 but there is no usb port so the iconia was my choice. Good luck with the deal
Steve
Wond3r said:
First off, I have an android phone, motorola atria.
I have a 32gb wifi iPad, and a chance to trade it for either an acer a500 or samsung galaxy tab 10.1 4g. It would be a straight trade. Would you do it?
I like the apps for the iPad, and there are great games for it. This is my only major road block right now. Hardware wise, I would trade for either one easily, but it's the software side that's keeping me from the simple trade.
Are there apps for android that are specifically made for tablets like iOS and their "hd" version of apps?
It seems the quality of apps and especially games are better right now for iPad?
Ps. In general I do prefer android, I would never trade my atrix for an iPhone. I'm speaking just tablet wise right now.
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From a hardware perspective, the answer is easy--i.e. Android tablets are better. I have recommended iPads and Android tablets to various people. It really boiled down to what they were wanting/needing. iPad has simplicity because you are prevented from doing pretty much anything to the device. I have folks who prefer that. An Android tablet gives a better desktop/laptop experience because you can customize. Software is a biggie. If you have apps you enjoy on the iPad, you need to investigate if they also exist on the Android or if something comparative exists. You mention enjoying games. You'll really like Gamesoft's games. I also like the emulators for Android, which means I can enjoy playing my old NES/SNES/Genesis/etc. games on my tablet.
The iPad 3 will come out (instead of originally coming out this year, rumour has it Apple extended the date to coincide with the iPad anniversary next year). The iPad 3 will more than likely come with a quad core processor. One of the biggest problems with iPads is the lack of connections, so an Android tablet will win in that test. Being able to upgrade your storage is a pretty huge plus. I know iPad has the iCloud. As I tell folks, that is great if you are in an area where you can actually get to the cloud, otherwise it is a huge fail.
One more comment about apps. Yes, iPad has a larger selection, so again do your homework on those iPad apps you use frequently. Yes, there are apps and games that are released specifically for Android tablets versus phones. I liked Adobe offering their support to Android with their Photoshop app. Not only is it available for Android but Adobe released the software for Android before iPad.
Best of luck. Hope some of this is of use.
Keep the iPad.
I figure anybody who bought one, well, they should just live with it.
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Keep the iPad.
I figure anybody who bought one, well, they should just live with it.
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Giggles ...
i think you should maybe ask your wife or girl friend what to do.. Sheesh cant anyone make a decision on there own...
Honey to i continue to be a slave of the apple.. Or do i get the freedom of Android..
THIS is a No Brain-er Decision ..
Giggles.. FOR REAL do what you feel is right for you
as we do not know your personality what you like dislike is size weight a issue.. Is being Cool in front of your friends a requirement... I say Ditch the IOS. BUT IM Sure you get that from the beginning of my post
Good Luck with what ever you choose to do... but i would not trade even thou retail value is likely higher for the ipad .
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Giggles ...
i think you should maybe ask your wife or girl friend what to do.. Sheesh cant anyone make a decision on there own...
Honey to i continue to be a slave of the apple.. Or do i get the freedom of Android..
THIS is a No Brain-er Decision ..
Giggles.. FOR REAL do what you feel is right for you
as we do not know your personality what you like dislike is size weight a issue.. Is being Cool in front of your friends a requirement... I say Ditch the IOS. BUT IM Sure you get that from the beginning of my post
Good Luck with what ever you choose to do... but i would not trade even thou retail value is likely higher for the ipad .
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Geeze Erica, I did ask her that. Her response... if I had owned an iPad, she wouldn't have introduced me to her Matrix bedsheets )))) iPad apps lack imagination and usefullness....
Poor iPad owners..((((
That's the thing I don't get. Is anyone planning on installing 140,000 apps on they're tab? Most likely there's going to be something that does the exact same thing, or similar, on android if it has any value. My impression is also that android phone apps run better on tabs than iOS on iPad
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Geeze Erica, I did ask her that. Her response... if I had owned an iPad, she wouldn't have introduced me to her Matrix bedsheets )))) iPad apps lack imagination and usefullness....
Poor iPad owners..((((
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Well you have a keeper then.Is she as hot as she is intelligent.
Oops
I have both an A500 and an iPad 2. They are both great in their own way. Some things to note:
Ability to expand the storage on the A500 is nice
The screen dimensions on the A500 are better for movies
It's fun to customize the A500
I continue to have problems with wifi here and there on the A500
The screen on the iPad is nicer
The iPad software is MUCH 'snappier'. I'm amazed how slow the A500 is when I use it.
The big name apps for the iPad are generally better. The developers just seem to concentrate more on that platform. For example, the Twitter app for the iPad is nicer.
That said, running iPhone apps on the iPad sucks. The 'little app in the center of the screen' thing is awful. Resizing the app is even worse.
They are both good for their own reasons. If it helps, I use my iPad more than my A500.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 equalizes the screens (better screen than the A500 IMO). I would lean that way if the ability to expand storage isn't an issue.
Funny thread, and the OP hasn't returned to the scene of the crime.
IMHO, if you really have to ask the question....then by all means....PLEASE KEEP THE I pad!
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Funny thread, and the OP hasn't returned to the scene of the crime.
IMHO, if you really have to ask the question....then by all means....PLEASE KEEP THE I pad!
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I've been reading the responses.
I'm not here to argue.
And by the way, it is an iPad 1.
If I have to ask the question, please keep the iPad? You are making it seem like I dont know about Android.
I've been with Android since the G1. and I've mentioned my phone is a rooted Moto Atix.
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I've been reading the responses.
I'm not here to argue.
And by the way, it is an iPad 1.
If I have to ask the question, please keep the iPad? You are making it seem like I dont know about Android.
I've been with Android since the G1. and I've mentioned my phone is a rooted Moto Atix.
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Thank you for proving my point, and I stand by my post. If you have to ask the question, you really need to keep it and NOT get the A500.
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Thank you for proving my point, and I stand by my post. If you have to ask the question, you really need to keep it and NOT get the A500.
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Thats not really proving any point.
Thanks for your input though.
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Thats not really proving any point.
Thanks for your input though.
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I hope not all a500 users are immature.
Actually - judging by the rest of the replies, I know not all of them are.
Again, thank you for your input.
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I hope not all a500 users are immature.
Actually - judging by the rest of the replies, I know not all of them are.
Again, thank you for your input.
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I like the fact I can run my 2.5" HDD on my Iconia A501, Makes watching movies, moving files a whole lot easier than having to connect to a pc, use all the inner storage and not be able to expand... I also have a 32Gb sd card for all the "must have" shows I like to watch.... That gives me 64Gb storage... Include the 1 Tb drive I attach, take that Ipad....
Oh, and the other thing I found, having a friend with an Ipad, he wanted to download a game I showed him on my android device. It actually cost him to buy the app that Android was giving away for free... The fact I can load apps from elsewhere other than downloading off the market is also a big plus (its nice to keep a copy of the apk files elsewhere)... Something else to think about.
Hello Note 10.1 users.
As stated, this is for my younger sister who just got out of college.
She's considering a tablet and I have a Note II which I love. I've always been an android user, since the nexus one (which she uses since i got the galaxy nexus).
When I'm reading online, even android websites say that android tablets are not on par w/ the iPad. I see that it's about the apps, but I feel like all the big apps are on android too, so I'm just confused.
Has anyone here had significant experience w/ one of the "new" ipads (3rd or 4th) that can offer their thoughts?
The reason I'm considering the Note 10.1 is because the only other 10 inch android tablet that seems good is the transformer infinity and their forums are just RIDDLED with problems, which I don't see Note 10.1 users having. So it seems to be the most stable 10 inch tablet on android.
There's two ipads in my home. My step sons and my wife's. My wife just got the 10.1 after seeing mine and gave her other son the ipad. Just go to a store a try all your options and see what you like best.
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Hello Note 10.1 users.
As stated, this is for my younger sister who just got out of college.
She's considering a tablet and I have a Note II which I love. I've always been an android user, since the nexus one (which she uses since i got the galaxy nexus).
When I'm reading online, even android websites say that android tablets are not on par w/ the iPad. I see that it's about the apps, but I feel like all the big apps are on android too, so I'm just confused.
Has anyone here had significant experience w/ one of the "new" ipads (3rd or 4th) that can offer their thoughts?
The reason I'm considering the Note 10.1 is because the only other 10 inch android tablet that seems good is the transformer infinity and their forums are just RIDDLED with problems, which I don't see Note 10.1 users having. So it seems to be the most stable 10 inch tablet on android.
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Depends on what she wants, does she want high resolution screen/media consumption device or a device more geared toward productivity?
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You need to consider what your Sister wants to do with it.
What does she do for a living, what brand of phone does she have, will she be a casual user or a power user.
Would she be happy with a plain Jane iPad as far as customizing goes?
Will she enjoy the artistic aspect of the Note 10.1's S-Pen.
As far as apps go... both android and ios have a wide range of quality apps. that would satisfy user of any age or profession
I have used iPod, iPad, Blackberry Playbook, Kindle fire, and a Note 10.1
My favorite device is the Note 10.1 here are some of the reasons why
The S-Pen, muti-window & dual view, air view, easy clip, smart stay, buddy photo share, live video w/ chapter preview, smart remote, formula match and pop up play.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 is truly The New Way
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Once you get used to that you never wanna have something other. I tell you, two aspects of the note are essential: as mentioned the multiwindow feature and the spen (including all the hardware). I use my note for studying and all i have to carry to university is this tablet. I do ALL my work on it with lecture notes but thats another long story... you can find a lot here in this forum.
Back to the multiwindow thing. I promise you, once tried you ll get addicted to it. The feeling is "pretty close" to working on a desktop/laptop machine. I owned the p7500 before i moved on to the note and that was a whole new experience. But to be honest you have to be rooted to REALLY use multiwindow in nearly every app. out of the box it just supports a couple of stock apps and that really sucked.
The Note is the best tablet on the market with one glaring deficiency: it's 147PPI display. Nothing competes with S Pen, S Note, multiview, airview, and all the additional features Samsung packs in to it. For someone that values those features (I do) the 147PPI display is the price you have to pay to get them.
For someone who just wants consumption, the two best tablets are the Xperia Z or Samsung P5200 (their version of the Nexus 10). The first was just announced and I'm not sure of when it goes on sale in the U.S. The second was leaked with no detail yet on features (other than the display resolution), price or availability. The N10 has a ton of issues and because it's "pure Google" missing a lot of features in other tablets. If you have a Costco near you buy her a Note there and, if she doesn't like it or something new comes along, you can return it within 90 days no-questions asked.
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The Note is the best tablet on the market with one glaring deficiency: it's 147PPI display. Nothing competes with S Pen, S Note, multiview, airview, and all the additional features Samsung packs in to it. For someone that values those features (I do) the 147PPI display is the price you have to pay to get them.
For someone who just wants consumption, the two best tablets are the Xperia Z or Samsung P5200 (their version of the Nexus 10). The first was just announced and I'm not sure of when it goes on sale in the U.S. The second was leaked with no detail yet on features (other than the display resolution), price or availability. The N10 has a ton of issues and because it's "pure Google" missing a lot of features in other tablets. If you have a Costco near you buy her a Note there and, if she doesn't like it or something new comes along, you can return it within 90 days no-questions asked.
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Well, it looks like I can get a refurbished one for 380 on ebay. I think I'm going to do that. The Xperia Z looks like a VERY premium tablet, so I'm sure it'll carry a premium price too, and she can barely afford the $380. I would've got her the nexus 10 as I love my nexus 7, but after reading through xda, and seeing that it has nothing but random reboot problems...I said f that.
ksc6000 said:
When I'm reading online, even android websites say that android tablets are not on par w/ the iPad.
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What android website writes such nonsense?
The Nexus 10 is better then the Ipad in EVERYTHING.
The Note 10 is better then the Nexus 10 because it has the s-pen, s-note, a sd-card slot and so on.
You seem not to know that the question "Android or Apple" is a religious, political question (seriously).
How dare you come to a Android forum and ask about an Apple product? You heretic! hehe (joke).
Now seriously again:
Most of us would never buy an Ipad, whatever specs it has, because it is an Apple product.
All apple products have the apple philosophy of being closed, limited.
Apple makes easy products, suited for your grandma.
To do this they have to RESTRICT your freedom to do things with the device. This limits what you can do with the device and limits your control on even your own data, but it limits also your chances to damage your device by doing something wrong.
A elderly person should buy an apple product because it is easy and an elderly person does not need advanced features.
A smart, young person should buy an android because it gives him the freedom to modify/customize everything and lets him do whatever he wants.
It is a political question:
Do you prefer the former "Soviet Union" (Apple) or the USA (Android)?
Soviet union (Apple): Easy life, the state gives you a job, a home but you have no freedom. (Apple Ipad: easy to use, but limited freedom.)
USA (Android): You have the freedom to become a billionaire like bill gates or fail and land homeless in the streets. How good or bad your life is, is in your hands. (Android Note 10.1: You can do whatever your want and can do many things an Ipad can not. But, you can also root your device, do some error and brick it.)
The Ipad does not have a Pen!
Try to use a Note 10.1 with the Pen for a week and then tell us whether you can continue to live with a device without a Pen.
Get her the Ipad, if you get her the note 10.1 and see what its like she won't end up with a new tablet or you'll have to get another one...:laugh:
I use my note 10.1 for everything. It does everything the ipad does and more. You can customise it to how you like it and change the rom if it doesn't suit you or you aren't getting updates. Modding is easy and throw in the s-pen and you have a brilliant tablet. So I say, get your sister the Ipad or you'll end up with a new tablet and she'll be disappointed....:good:
legion1911 said:
It is a political question:
Do you prefer the former "Soviet Union" (Apple) or the USA (Android)?
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Iran's nuclear ambitions are a political question. As is Palestine vs. Israel and Pyongyang's lunacy du jour. Android vs. iOS is a practical question. Do you want your tablet experience to be easy, consistent and well defined out of the box with content spoon fed to you and in return give up some flexibility? If so, pick iOS. Do you want your tablet experience to allow for a high degree of customization and configuration with more content flexibility and in return you have to have a higher degree of technical knowledge and need to invest more time? Pick Android.
I'm committed to Android personally but consistently recommend iOS to my non-technical friends because for people that just want to do stuff without having to think about it iOS is a better choice. If someone asks me whether they should go with Android or iOS I hand them my phone or tablet and tell them to play with it. If after a few minutes they look totally confused I recommend iOS. If they get in to the menus and apps and start asking decent questions I recommend Android. Just because we personally enjoy and support Android doesn’t mean iOS isn’t a viable solution for quite a few people.
And the N10 is a train wreck. There are a ton of h/w and QC issues along with it using a barren AOSP interface designed for a phone. 4.2 still has tons of issues that haven’t been resolved yet. The number of people unhappy with the N10 is the highest I’ve seen for an Android tablet to date which is saying something because Asus’ tablets are no walk in the park. The N4’s got more than its share of issues including a rather serious thermal throttling problem when under extended load. Just because a Google device is “pure” and/or says “Nexus” on it doesn’t automatically make it good.
If your sister has any intention of using the tablet for just playing "games" or watching stuff online, you're better off getting her an iPad. You won't have to field any questions because she won't have this bias that the device is hard to use.
If your sister is the kind of person who likes to tweak her devices, do digital art, maybe take notes, you can't lose with the Note 10.1.
If I were you, I'd just stick them with the iPad because I hate getting complaints based on people's preconceived notion on how hard Android devices are to use.
BarryH_GEG said:
Iran's nuclear ambitions are a political question. As is Palestine vs. Israel and Pyongyang's lunacy du jour. Android vs. iOS is a practical question.
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You are wrong.
"I do not want a device that restricts my freedom and does not respect my privacy", "I do not want to give money to a company that produces devices that restrict freedom and do not respect privacy", "I do not want to buy products from a company that gets rich by exploiting poor Chinese workers" ARE political and ethical choices.
Just like "buying fair trade products", "not buying meat, because you do not want to kill animals", "not buying north-Korean/Iranian/Israeli" are political and ethical choices. Understand?
BarryH_GEG said:
Do you want your tablet experience to be easy, consistent and well defined out of the box with content spoon fed to you and in return give up some flexibility? If so, pick iOS. Do you want your tablet experience to allow for a high degree of customization and configuration with more content flexibility and in return you have to have a higher degree of technical knowledge and need to invest more time? Pick Android.
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I wrote almost the same.
But...
The amount of technical knowledge required to use STOCK samsung/android is not much higher then with an Ipad and your CAN invest time to do advanced stuff, but you do not have to. One can live fine also without root, cwm, overclocking, side-loading, ROM-flashing. My 70 year old "non technical" mother lives fine with a stock samsung android phone. She does not need an Iphone.
Stock samsung/android is very similar to iOS. We all know why.... because Android/Samsung copied it from Apple.
Just like Windows is a copy of the Apple Macintosh. So you recommend your "non technical friends" to buy Macintosh (iMac as they call them now) and not a Windows pc?
The comparison iOS/Android is exactly the same as Macintosh/Windows.
I do not underestimate the intelligence of my friends/family.
ksc6000 said:
Hello Note 10.1 users.
As stated, this is for my younger sister who just got out of college.
She's considering a tablet and I have a Note II which I love. I've always been an android user, since the nexus one (which she uses since i got the galaxy nexus).
When I'm reading online, even android websites say that android tablets are not on par w/ the iPad. I see that it's about the apps, but I feel like all the big apps are on android too, so I'm just confused.
Has anyone here had significant experience w/ one of the "new" ipads (3rd or 4th) that can offer their thoughts?
The reason I'm considering the Note 10.1 is because the only other 10 inch android tablet that seems good is the transformer infinity and their forums are just RIDDLED with problems, which I don't see Note 10.1 users having. So it seems to be the most stable 10 inch tablet on android.
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i have owned Note 10.1 for 5 months since it came to my country. screen is ****! real ****! u know it has the same screen as the first galaxy tab 10.1? YEAH! go for iPad 4! i will get the iPad 5 when it comes out, my first ever iOS device that i would own. i have used iPad 4 of my friend and it is really really great. my only grudge is that there is no file browser and everything has to be transferred through the iTunes. thats it! nothing else! go for iPad 4 it has the best screen and the best app support and the best of all, it has a great battery life and as a bonus a great resale value... hope u got my point
I gotta tell you, I've used Android and iOS for a long time. Still have an iPad 2 in the house and had an original iPad. I truly and honestly don't get why people continue to perpetuate this myth that Android is "hard to use" and "requires technical knowledge" as well as all the other comments about it that imply difficulty. I've actually found it to be the opposite. Android seems to just make sense to me. In iOS everything I try to do is a monumental pain in the ass. It seems even the most basic activities require going to all kinds of different places.
As for your sister, also consider "total cost of ownership" which goes way beyond the cost of the tablet itself. It seems to me that comparable iOS apps are generally more expensive...not to mention that if you get sucked into the iOS world you usually have to buy a tablet app and a phone app separately. Lots of Android apps work perfectly on a tablet and phone and look great so you really don't need 2 of the same app.
I would also suggest, unless she needs a stylus because she likes to draw or whatever, there are much less expensive and equally good options out there for far less money than the Note 10.1 or the iFad.
^^^ this. Replaced my wife's iphone 4 with a note 2. She asked me how to put her music on it. I told her to plug it into her laptop make a music folder on her sd card and drag her music into it. Her mouth dropped and said that's it?! I always had to work her iTunes for her and it annoyed the crap out of me. Glad she took my advice this time when she upgraded.
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I haven't ever owned an Apple device, but it's definitely not "easier to use" when I tried my friends' phones. I mean, the way people talk about Android stuff like you have to be a techie to use it.. Sure, you COULD geek out to do a lot of other stuff, but it's completely unnecessary. The only reason I know a little bit about geeking out is because I found the XDA forums for my first Android tablet and I wanted to do more than just browsing.
Take the note 10, about the interface of apple and how it is easy, you could install a launcher that will make it like the ipad or even windows phone
Done !!!
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With the Note 10.1 I was able to download a pdf, import it to SNote, fill out the pdf, exported the edited pdf to pdf and email it to the company that wanted me to print it out, write on it then scan it and after all that, email it back to them..
I'm not sure this can be done or not on an iPad for I have never owned an Apple product nor do I even want to own one
This is reason enough for me to say, purchase the Note 10.1
Got the note and my sister loves it! Thanks to you all