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I have I-mate , and updated to ver 1.52 , i try to connect it with the BMW car bluetooth , they can see each other but the car can not bound the i-mate , any body try this , or is there a patch tor that.
any help
I'd like to...if anyone has a BMW 520i to donate i'll be willing to have a go!!
Sorry i couldn't be more helpful....i just couldn't resist.
Yes There is a solution Ali!!
First backup your device
Goto www.clubimate.com
Register Your device
Then you would head to the support section
And download the latest ROM upgrade which is approximately 40 MB
Upgrade your device since the new ROM is said to have a new fix for bluetooth.
And if this works ........ Please Donate !! (Just kidding !!)
if i am not mistaken, the bmw carkit is the same as the parrot ck3000...if so you have a problem (for the moment anyway)
the parrot ck3000 works with the handsfree profile of a bluetooth phone, and the xda2,qtek2020,i-mate and all the other names for our machine only works the headset-profile....it is no use of trying to upgrade the carkit, mine has the latest software, and still does not work...the upgrade has to come from your pda, that has to support the handsfree profile...as i heard, there should be one comming out in the first few months...let's hope...
thanks for the help
i update the i-mate before from the clubimate but as you said no help at all it is the same problem
if problem solved will donate sample bmw logo from the company
To ali:
Simply: NO WAY. Nor will BMW support you in any way: You will not get (in written) even the list of supported phones. They just claim it's lack of Bluetooth standardization (Wich is not completly false...).
BTW, I've found the hard way that BMW cars only support Handsfree profile (No headset), BUT, not on every phone model, and not all features....
If you are interested:
1- Ericsson and Sony-Ericsson T68 models: They work on the handsfree part of the Bonding, but you will not get your phone contact list automatically passed onto the car kit phone system. You may pass contacts one at a time (tedious and time consumming).
2- SE P800: My biggest disappointement, they do not even pair reliably, no contact list at all, connection breaks with no apparent reason.
3- Siemens S-55: The BMW preferred one (Both Germans, I guess....), to no avail. Same behaviour as SE T68, and although the contact list is supposed to be passed automatically it doesn't. When tried manually, it stops at about 6 or 7 contacts and the phone hangs.
4- XDAII: The BT part is SO POORLY implemented, it should have been even removed from the reviews on the forums.
Hi
I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Sim Access Profile capabilkity of the of TyTn to connect with a Bluetooth car kit. I'm trying to get the connection going with a Merc. car kit, but I can't get them to pair.
Thx
Hi petes, I have an slk 55 amg with command and bluetooth. The bluetooth in the command system does not work for pairing with a phone. Even though it says it has bluetooth. To use bluetooth you need an extra module.
Hope this helps...
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...y-arrived-but.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
http://www.wireless4mb.com/phones.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...pic-seems-kit.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
Hi Dale
Thanks. I actually already have the module - the european version of the module is different to the US one in that it uses Sim Access Profile, rather than just acting as a headset. The TyTn says is supports SAP, but I just can't make it work - wondering if anyone's actually got SAP working.
pete S
Hi Petes,
I also have an Mercedes-Benz with the european bluetooth module. But I have a Qtek 9100 updated to AKU2 (Which is supposed to support SAP), but no luck at all. Actually the module can not even identify my phone and display it at the search screen of the comand screen. I tried also with a NOKIA 6230i (SAP Compatible phone) which actually I was able to see at the search list of the comand screen which means that the module is working with SAP compatible phones. What I will do next, is to try again with the new firmware I installed to my 9100 (T-Mobiles 2.21 Version) which has a SAP application for bluetooth (Something like SAP Server).
I can not do it yet because I am abroad and I will be back again 1st of September. I will let you know the results ASAP.
If you have any news from your site with TyTn please let me know because I was intending to change my 9100 to TyTn just for the SAP functionality.
Hi Barsam
The reason you can't find the 9100 when you search with the BT module is that it only looks for devices which identify themselves as Phones. The TyTn (and no doubt the 9100) identify themselves as Pocket PCs and so the (stupid!) Mercedes kit ignores them. The good news is that you can hack the registry to tell the Bluetooth stack that it's a phone. The bad news is that you can't pair with it. Getting it into the search screen doesn't mean it supports SAP - I could see my old T68 just when I was testing. Could you actually pair with the 6230i - i.e. when you see it in the list select Call?
When you're back, PM me and I'll send you the hack.
To tell you the truth I didn't try to pair the 6230i, but it's one of the phones that mercedes have tested on the bluetooth module. If I don't manage to do it with the 9100 I may get a 6230i. At least I can use the one that my brother has to test it and even copy my contacts to comand. Have you tried the hack with the TyTn? Can you tell me what is the the registry set to do that?
Where did you find out that the bluetooth module ignores enything elese than phones?
Make the following registry change
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS]
"COD"=dword:52020C
On your own head etc.. Keep a copy of the current value of course. Then do a soft reset. You'll then see it as a phone. I've tried this, and can now see the phone, but can't pair. I've had a mail back from HTC that they're aware of some problem with the SAP and are working on it.
I wish a nice car kit would be released in the USA that supports SAP/850 & 1900/ external aerial...
hello,
i'm trying to get my TyTN working with my Meceder Command too... does anyone tried the English ROM-Update? Someone wrote that he can use it's TyTN with his Audi after updating the ROM. And tha Audi-MMI-System works also with SAP... perhpas after the ROM-Update it works with Mecedes Command System too...
I haven't tried it yet - I've been waiting for the TyTn update to come along, but nothing from HTC yet. If I don't get anything soon, I'll switch over to the iMate ROM and report back.
I have used a nokia 6233 6280 onmy E55 2005 with B/t Module
The mercedes module in conjuntion with the command system is problimatic, hoever I think I have another peice of the puzzle. With both the above phones they only worked using Vodaphone 3g cards Three 3g cards paired using SAP however could not get recieption....Mercedes say (there guessing) its the way the sim card is configured.....
Mercedes BT
I have a TYTN on order and Im desperate to find a solution to the issue before it arrives.....
As a follow on to my last post ...basically what I THINK found out was if the sim card was configured to work only on a 3G phone..(some networks do this so that they cannot be put in a 2.5g phone and constantly roam on).....then it would pair with the Bluetooth module in Mercedes however never get recieption.
I tried this on several phones including 6233 6280 N80 E61.....just to name a few....ALL PAIRED....however If I put a Vodaofone 3g Card in then IT worked .....IF i put a Three 3G card in it didnt.....BUMMER CAUSE I'm with THREE.....
I hope this helps in some way and Im more than happy to be corrected however these are my first hand expeirnces....I WANT TO USED THE TYTN in my MErc so Im keen to help in amy way....I have unlimited access to phones...so if anyone has any other suggestions Im happy to give it a go....
Mark
At the moment, you'll find that by default the merc kit won't even see the Tytn (it's a pocket pc, not a phone as far as Bluetooth is concerned). You can hack the registry to change this, but then the phone will be seen, but pairing will fail. Hopefully, the forthcoming firmware update will fix this - I've had mail back from HTC support to suggest they know there are problems with the SAP support.
Mercedes BT
Is there anyone who had paired Nokia phones with Mercedes BT(euro spec) successfully? I had tried for several Nokia phones (6230i/6270/6280) to pair with BT ,all failed. I can just find the 16-digit PIN on Comand, no phone appears on Comand. Phone & Comand can't find each other. Do I have to set other setting except the "bluetooth setting" for mobile phone? Even I try to "search for audio enhancements" and 'find no devices' at all .
Thanks Petes,
Did they give any idea on time frames?...Did you have any thoughts about my experience with the different sim cards....
Mark
I am considering buying the HTC TyTN and the Merc Bluetooth module so I am very keen to know if anyone can get this working.
Thanks,
Ady
Nope - no news on timescales I'm afraid - just waiting for the firmware update from HTC. I'm reluctant to try the iMate firmware at the moment - until there's an HTC to go back to in case something goes awry. Has anyone had a chance to try SAP with either of the newer firmwares (iMate or Dopod) - might give us a good clue if the HTC one's going to work.
I've connected my 6230i easily enough, just remember to allow "auto connect without confirmation" on the phone after entering the 16 digit code
I have tried my HW6915 pocket pc but like the other PPC's it is not recognised
A reply I got from HTC support on 21/09/2006 asking about the Merc SAP problem was:
At present the TyTN is only compatable with a limited number of kits. A ROM update will be released shortly to update this.
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So fingers crossed that it will be soon and solve the problem.
I asked them the same thing a while ago and just checked back in on availability. Just got ...
"At present the HTC ROM for the TyTN is being written and tested and we expect it to be released in the very near future."
So, patience is a virtue I hear....
Apologies if this has been asked before, i've tried searching and now found a question that matches this, similar but not exact.
I have a Touch and now a Touch HD.
My Touch would connect to the cars bluetooth (Renault Laguna) and happily send over my phonebook so I could browse through it using the controls in the car.
My Touch HD connects ok, but doesn't send the phonebook (contact list always reports as empty). I've checked the Remote SIM Access box in case that makes a difference and ensured i'd copied over my contacts to the SIM first. I've even unpaired and repaired the phone, still 'empty'
I've tried using Jetware to get around this, which provides me with a "Windows encountered a problem with services.exe" which isn't very inspiring - but ultimately surely I shouldn't need to use a piece of software to 'add' a feature that existed on my older phone? Needless to say after all of this is done
Am I missing something? Any help anyone can provide me with would be appreciated.
My ROM version reports itself as 1.56.405.1 (43972) WWE, Protocol is 52.62.25.34U and radio is 1.13.25.24 if that offers any help?
Thanx in advance
I have to use Jetware BT to connect to my Alpine unit from http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
Does mean I can select the type of contacts i want to sync as well
Sorry, maybe I didn't make it clear.
Jetwaremobile doesn't appear to work properly on my Touch HD - it causes Windows Mobiles to report services.exe as needing to be closed. Performing a Soft-Reset makes no difference either.
I've emailed HTC about it but i'm not holding my breath on a response, its seems ridiculous that it did work on the old phone and now doesn't work on the newer model
The annoying thing is that I really really like the phone, but the inability to work with my cars built in BT 'headset' is something that makes me consider sending it back.
I have a problem where my HD2 does not work properly with my Land Rover Freelander 2 in-built bluetooth car kit.
The HD2 pairs with the car and I can search my phone book, see my last dialled number, I can even dial a number, BUT, the phone does not connect properly - the car radio should cut out and phone audio come through the car speakers, but instead the radio just continues to play. And shortly after the call is connected to the other party the line is terminated.
My Nokia phone works perfectly with my car, but this phone does not. Even my Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 did not for properly with the Freelander 2.
I did manage to make one successful call, but after I stopped and restarted the car, the problem returned!! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
So, does any one know of a fix? Surely hands free/car kit is a standard?
Help!
same problem here. i have a bluetooth car stereo. Always worked fine with my previous HTC's. But now with the HD2 i get the exact same problems as you... I think it's software bug. i have rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD
i hope this gets sorted out cause i use bluetooth audio streaming a lot in the car....same for handsfree calling
Paired it with my Pioneer FH-P80BT on my way to sell my 3GS and recieved a call. Got the same issue as described above - just a bug i presume.
I'm experiancing similar problems. All works fine (incoming call's or outgoing call's) but they get disconnected randomly it seems. I'm using a JVX NX7000 by the way. No problem with my iPhone. Hope they fix it soon!
I tested it with my BMW Idrive last night which is notoriously difficult and it worked fine, I was really surprised tbh! But was able to recieve and make calls, the stereo cut out and could see the phone book too. With my N82 i was only ever able to make/receive calls.
Same problem - Jaguar XF - it docks ok but I have to initiate calls from car (vs phone). Just some weirdness going on...
glenner05 said:
same problem here. i have a bluetooth car stereo. Always worked fine with my previous HTC's. But now with the HD2 i get the exact same problems as you... I think it's software bug. i have rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD
i hope this gets sorted out cause i use bluetooth audio streaming a lot in the car....same for handsfree calling
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Mercedes brutality
I have a new Mercedes C, and when the HD2 is connected over bluetooth I get an extremely loud, strange ringtone when receiving a call. It is so loud it could really make your shoes go off.
Also it is none of the ringtones available to choose from, inside the phone - it sounds more like a BIOS beep from a PC and hits me while the normal ringtone is playing as well.
It definitely comes from the phone, not from the car stereo. I have not figured out how to resolve this, I think it is outright dangerous for unprepared drivers.
I have a Nissan Pathfinder; it paired ok, and dials from the Pathy without probs. Ringtone is ok too. Sound quality seems better than my old Tytn so all in all v happy.
Doesn't stream music, but that's Nissan's fault, not HTC.
Works fine with the Ford BT system in the Ford Focus (2009).
HTC HD2 Pairing with a Freelander 2 - SUCESS!!!
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
graemenwallace said:
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
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Hello i have same problem with my BMW X5. Can you explain better your steps ?
graemenwallace said:
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
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Interesting, I have a similar problem with my 2009 BMW 3 I explain here (sorry I posted before discovering this thread) and I'll try your registry tweak.
But you say that it is "a known change" to the HD2, could you tell us where you saw it ? Is there another discussion about the BT stack somewhere or more generaly about the Widcomm implementation in the HD2 ?
The HD2 being so recent and in short supply, I'm a bit surprised something like that is "well known"
Thanks for your help.
It works !
graemenwallace, I just tried after applying your tweak and... OMG, this is AWSOME man, it just WORKS !
I still just have one gripe though, it seems that the car doesn't always receive the RF level correctly at the first connection. Sometimes it sees the phone as having no carrier at all (no bars in the RX level display), preventing the car to make any calls, but as soon as I receive a call, the level resets to full bars and I can pick the call and make calls myself after that.
When the first call comes in, I can see the display with no bars and a "?" appearing on top of it for a short time before it becomes full bars.
So there is still some compatibility problems, but at least now I can pick-up incoming calls without risking my life.
So I suppose you are a potential life saver then
Thanks mate,
Yves.
Bluetooth is working YES with JVC KD-AVX44 ADV49
After the registry tweak from graemenwallace the bluetooth connection is working properly with my car radio (JVC KD-AVX44/KD-ADV49).
The phone functions ok now (incoming & outgoing calls) Also the AD2P connection is super (very good sound)
Also the ID3 tags are functioning (didn't function with the X1 Xperia)
I see the track title now into the JVC display
Skipping etc. all is functioning. I will tell HTC about it because I have a ticket running for this issue. I think they have to solve this issue
Big thanks for this trick
By doing a little search on the net, it seems like graemenwallace suggested that this problem is not new with smartphones that identify themselves as such.
The tweak above forces the BT stack of the phone to identify itself as a standard phone instead of a smartphone.
What's puzzling is that my BMW handsfree worked with other smartphones so far, including the iphone.
Anyway, it's ok now, but I wonder what bad press this will cause to HTC.
The majority of the users are unaware of this kind of wizardry and this justs adds up to the long list of bugs of the HD2.
When I first got the phone a few days ago I was rapidly convinced to return it immediatly as it's fancy interface wasn't enough to overcome all the shortcomings. It was plain unusable as a business phone.
Now after applying most of the tweaks, it begins to show potential, but HTC really has to work on the problems we can't fix by tweaking the registry.
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
jah said:
Works fine with the Ford BT system in the Ford Focus (2009).
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Does your Ford system have the Bluetooth audio choice?
I get my Ford Focus changed every six months coz i'm a driving instructor and it comes as part of the deal.
On my last Ford Focus my htc tytn 2 connected ok and I could make and receive calls ok.
However, when the new car was delivered the Ford system had bluetooth audio choice and ipod integration which the other one didn't.
Now my htc tytn 2 didn't connect very well at all.
Now with my HD2 it does connect only if I have the bluetooth audio profile selected.
But now the music player keeps appearing and wants to play music all the time. If I pause the music on the phone it just starts replaying.
Anyway I will try the registry tweak in this thread and hopefully that will solve the problem.
Paul.
Jolig said:
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
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I have the same problem. I`ll try to pair my HD2 with MB C-klass using SAP but i can`t get them connected it seems like a SAP adaptor can`t activate a PIN input window on HD2 (i guess). With other phones it works perfect (tryed with Nokia 5800, 6500).
Shark_Abuser said:
I have a new Mercedes C, and when the HD2 is connected over bluetooth I get an extremely loud, strange ringtone when receiving a call. It is so loud it could really make your shoes go off.
Also it is none of the ringtones available to choose from, inside the phone - it sounds more like a BIOS beep from a PC and hits me while the normal ringtone is playing as well.
It definitely comes from the phone, not from the car stereo. I have not figured out how to resolve this, I think it is outright dangerous for unprepared drivers.
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could you pls describe, how did get them paired? when i try to pair them, i see the device`s id, try to "call" it, see pin code and after that i hear the descending tone. and it nothing occurs. SAP is enabled, device is discoverable, what else? Any idea?
Jolig said:
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
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I feel your pain, my wife has a GolfPlus and the rSAP instalation is crap.
It's overly expensive and useless if you don't have one of the few phones compatible with it.
Unfortunately, many customers are falling in this trap, thinking it is a standard handsfree, but it is not, it is a full GSM build-in which only access your phone SIM card to log into the network and download your contacts.
In the case of my wife, the dealer was honest and clearly stated that it was a mistake to order this option.
The only problem is that he had no other alternative than proposing an Parrot retrofit which wasn't really an option for me as it wasn't integrated in the car and certainly not in the navigation system.
But internet is your friend and the solution is quite simple, the Kufatec kit.
This is brilliant, it is a small box that connects to the CAN bus of many german cars and integrates perfectly into existing navigators, it uses the steering wheels command buttons and so on.
It is much better (more functions) than original BT options, is tailored to each brand so that the displays are in the same style as the original ones etc.
More interesting, it is field upgradable (just a laptop with BT) so that it is potentialy compatible with anything existing or not yet.
And it only costs a fraction of this crappy rSAP option.
In your case, the good news is that it can simply replace your actual rSAP kit for a minimal installation fee. (the CAN bus has to be reprogramed however, so professional instalation needed)
There is another solution: to replace the unit you have (it is situated under the driver's seat) by a skoda unit. This unit has the same connector but is simple handsfree instead of rSAP.
Hope this helps.
Hi!
I have a question regarding android devices in general. The main question is if this idea is possible with the right app or if you need special hardware?
I want to develop an app that let's you use any android device as a bluetooth headset connected to a cellphone. The setup is primarily for a car installation but other uses are also possible. This is how I want it to work:
I install an Android MID in my car and connect it to the stereo using a cable or bluetooth (depending on whats possible) to get the sound from the mid to the cars speakers. On this MID I'll have google maps and Spotify (or pandora) for navigation and music. So far this is nothing special, but I also want to be able to answer and make calls from a connected (bluetooth) phone (like on many dedicated gps).
By doing this I want the driver (any driver) to be able pair his/her phone with the MID. The calls to the connected phone will be displayed on the MID so their phones can stay in their pockets.
1. Is it possible to answer a telephone call to a cellphone by using an "answer" button on a bluetooth connected android device? Example "My Desire is connected by bluetooth to the android MID. When an external call is made to the Desire I can anser it from the MID".
2. If the answer to no 1 is Yes, is it at the same time possible to share internet via the same bluetooth connection?
Anyone have any idea if this is possible with the right app or if it need special hardware?
Sorry for bad english and long question..
- A
Bathyon said:
Hi!
I have a question regarding android devices in general. The main question is if this idea is possible with the right app or if you need special hardware?
I want to develop an app that let's you use any android device as a bluetooth headset connected to a cellphone. The setup is primarily for a car installation but other uses are also possible. This is how I want it to work:
I install an Android MID in my car and connect it to the stereo using a cable or bluetooth (depending on whats possible) to get the sound from the mid to the cars speakers. On this MID I'll have google maps and Spotify (or pandora) for navigation and music. So far this is nothing special, but I also want to be able to answer and make calls from a connected (bluetooth) phone (like on many dedicated gps).
By doing this I want the driver (any driver) to be able pair his/her phone with the MID. The calls to the connected phone will be displayed on the MID so their phones can stay in their pockets.
1. Is it possible to answer a telephone call to a cellphone by using an "answer" button on a bluetooth connected android device? Example "My Desire is connected by bluetooth to the android MID. When an external call is made to the Desire I can anser it from the MID".
2. If the answer to no 1 is Yes, is it at the same time possible to share internet via the same bluetooth connection?
Anyone have any idea if this is possible with the right app or if it need special hardware?
Sorry for bad english and long question..
- A
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With the right app, sure. Not sure if you can do it over bluetooth tho, maybe get a SIM for the MID and have your phone forward calls to it while your in the car. But i bet someone could figure out the bluetooth thing.
First of all, there is a problem connecting to the phone wifi due to it being an "ad -hoc" network. But the phone through the tablet is a great idea and some of us are working with such a prototype called "FLEX" it will be a small unlocked cell phone device that connects via BT to the tablet and handles the phone function for the tablet as you have described. Send me a pm if you would like more info.
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He's talking about Bluetooth not WiFi
allus_drummer said:
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He's talking about Bluetooth not WiFi
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I know he is talking about Bluetooth... but he also mentioned wanting to connect to 3g of the phone for data I believe.
I've actually had this idea as well! I don't know much about bluetooth programming, but there should be some way to spoof the phone bluetooth device ID or whatever to make the other device believe it's talking to a bt headset. I'm going to guess it might require root.
If you do decide to start coding something like this, let me know how i can help (ie, testing).
cheers,
q
Sent from my Nexus One
Thanks for all the answers. I don't think I'm able to program this myself but was interested in if the concept was possible. If it is I sure hope someone creates it. I would pay good money for a solution like that and I think others would to.
If you come across more information regarding projects in this area please let me know.
Thanks again.