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Xoom Ordered

Well just ordered my Xoom.
Had a poke on the Otterbox site and thinking of ordering one of them (Got the commuter on my DHD) as well as a matt screen cover (again on my DHD).
Then I came here, thinking perhaps I should of done that first as there seems to be mixed feelings about the Xoom, I mainly decided on the Xoom as it was the only one with 3g that I could get at the time..
Maybe I should of gone for the Flyer or A500 instead

Trig0r said:
Well just ordered my Xoom.
Had a poke on the Otterbox site and thinking of ordering one of them (Got the commuter on my DHD) as well as a matt screen cover (again on my DHD).
Then I came here, thinking perhaps I should of done that first as there seems to be mixed feelings about the Xoom, I mainly decided on the Xoom as it was the only one with 3g that I could get at the time..
Maybe I should of gone for the Flyer or A500 instead
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The Flyer is an interesting looking device but the screen is significantly smaller than the Xoom (7 inch vs 10 inch), and it is running Gingerbread rather than Honeycomb. Also, it's bootloaders are still locked tight so rooting and modding will be an uphill struggle.
The A500 is a nice machine, but a bit heavier than the Xoom. Also, I have had bad experiences in the past with Acer which tends to skimp on Design and build quality at times. However the full size USB is a nice addition. On the minus side, the dev community for the Iconia is not nearly as far along or as active as here with the Xoom. In addition it is still waiting for 3.1, which if you are in the US your Xoom will have via OTA right out of the box or it is easily added using XDA guides.
I feel you made the right choice ordering the Xoom...and I agree, Otterbox cases are the gold standard, the crowning touch on a great device.

i have had the otterbox defender case for the xoom since early last week. it ROCKS! bullet proof construction. can be configured in a couple ways, ports are secured by flaps. they took the time to get this right. worth the money spent and the time to wait on it.

Not in the USA, in the UK so no OTA for me, guess I'll be checking out the ROM's soon enough, dont think I've had a device thats been supported here thats had stock ROM on it for more than a day after it arriving :lol:

Trig0r said:
Well just ordered my Xoom.
Had a poke on the Otterbox site and thinking of ordering one of them (Got the commuter on my DHD) as well as a matt screen cover (again on my DHD).
Then I came here, thinking perhaps I should of done that first as there seems to be mixed feelings about the Xoom, I mainly decided on the Xoom as it was the only one with 3g that I could get at the time..
Maybe I should of gone for the Flyer or A500 instead
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Me too! It will replace my not so bad Gtab
I was looking for a small device, but so far the smallest announced is the LG but it doesn't have GPS and the price point isn't that great, one of my friend have a Transformer, it's a nice unit for the price but it feel too big!
The Flyer is't as powerful as the Tegra, and other model where bigger, beside the accessory for the xoom seem interesting!
Not sure yet what I am going to do with the gtab, I might as well keep it to have a testbed for rom flashing, not sure!
anyhow, ordered from costco in canada, so I have plenty of option in regard of exchange or credit (I expect the canadian version to follow the US pricing down to 499)
The reason why I am upgrading is that I want to use the encryption on the unit, I can't help to think about the nightmare if It got stolen!

Trig0r said:
Well just ordered my Xoom.
Had a poke on the Otterbox site and thinking of ordering one of them (Got the commuter on my DHD) as well as a matt screen cover (again on my DHD).
Then I came here, thinking perhaps I should of done that first as there seems to be mixed feelings about the Xoom, I mainly decided on the Xoom as it was the only one with 3g that I could get at the time..
Maybe I should of gone for the Flyer or A500 instead
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I returned my A500 for the Xoom last week and haven't looked back since. The Acer is heavier than the Xoom but it actually feels lighter because of the weight distribution on it. Overall the A500 is a very nice device but since Costco had the Xoom on sale for only $20 its an easy call.
The pros for the A500 are the full size usb connector and working SD card slot.
The pros for the Xoom are the software updates, dev support, and more accessories to name a few.

Yea I'm ordering the otterbox from amazon I've been looking for the white and black version that I saw on YouTube anybody know who has them
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woodylee said:
I returned my A500 for the Xoom last week and haven't looked back since. The Acer is heavier than the Xoom but it actually feels lighter because of the weight distribution on it. Overall the A500 is a very nice device but since Costco had the Xoom on sale for only $20 its an easy call.
The pros for the A500 are the full size usb connector and working SD card slot.
The pros for the Xoom are the software updates, dev support, and more accessories to name a few.
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If you flash a custom kernel to the Xoom, you can have your SD card, and use it, too! :-D
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Whats the deal with custom ROM's, same sort of thing as the phone, unlock, root, clockworkmod?
Who's the best guys to follow ROM wise, I'm not so bothered about regular releases with all the new bells and whistles, I want something thats mature and well supported similar to what I get with the revolutionHD ROM that mike1986 kicks out..

Trig0r said:
Whats the deal with custom ROM's, same sort of thing as the phone, unlock, root, clockworkmod?
Who's the best guys to follow ROM wise, I'm not so bothered about regular releases with all the new bells and whistles, I want something thats mature and well supported similar to what I get with the revolutionHD ROM that mike1986 kicks out..
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Since HC sources are not available, ROMs for the Xoom focus can only focus on overclocking, optimizing and adding small features but I can say that BigRushDog's work really adds to the performance of my Xoom.
BigRushDog (BRD) creates the Tiamat kernels and custom ROM (along with Solarnz and the rest of Team Tiamat) and is definitely the one to watch as far as custom romming on the Xoom currently.
Also keep an eye on the Launchpad kernel by TDR as well.

Whata bout the dreaded Tegra HD playback issues, that sort of thing fixed in the customs, what about the SD card slot working?

cancel your order and get the galaxy 10.1, i have my xoom for months and loved it, just got a GT and am selling my xoom on ebay, i LOVE my GT

DroidHam said:
cancel your order and get the galaxy 10.1, i have my xoom for months and loved it, just got a GT and am selling my xoom on ebay, i LOVE my GT
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Why should he cancel I returned the 10.1 for the Xoom because theres no expandable storage or 3g data only wifi the only plus the 10.1 has is its thinner and I noticed the Xoom has longer battery life
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vdub804 said:
Why should he cancel I returned the 10.1 for the Xoom because theres no expandable storage or 3g data only wifi the only plus the 10.1 has is its thinner and I noticed the Xoom has longer battery life
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i personally hate Samsung products, the quality is cheap and they always break very easily. As well i think the xoom looks alot better and if i'm not mistaken it has a 5mp camera vs. the 3.15mp on the tab 10.1.

I had a Samsung N220 netbook, was ok tbh but the complete lack of support from Samsung was enoguh to put me off any of there stuff again..
The reason I went for the Xoom was for the 3g in the end as its the only Android tablet my supplier had in that was 3g, I would of looked at the Transformer but they dont stock Asus...
My requirements were, in no particular order.
Expandable storage
Bluetooth
Wifi
3G
Media Playback
I was also looking at the Flyer but they arent getting stock of the 3G one until the end of the month and I want it before then..
Xoom seemed to tick all the right boxes..

Trig0r said:
I had a Samsung N220 netbook, was ok tbh but the complete lack of support from Samsung was enoguh to put me off any of there stuff again..
The reason I went for the Xoom was for the 3g in the end as its the only Android tablet my supplier had in that was 3g, I would of looked at the Transformer but they dont stock Asus...
My requirements were, in no particular order.
Expandable storage
Bluetooth
Wifi
3G
Media Playback
I was also looking at the Flyer but they arent getting stock of the 3G one until the end of the month and I want it before then..
Xoom seemed to tick all the right boxes..
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And if you get tired of verizon you can flash the xoom to another carrier like I did, $400 deposit for $35/month data my ass and thats after I gave them ****ers $800 for the xoom
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3G is pointless with a 4G Thunderbolt to tether to.
Galaxy Tab has better battery life
Screen is WAY better.
32GB internal is plenty of data for me, I had a Xoom for 3 months and never used the SD Card even after I rooted and installed the kernel for it.
Dont get me wrong, I loved my Xoom, but I think its outdated now. Its big and bulky, and has a sub par screen.
Just my opinion, but I think my SGT is ALOT nicer.

DroidHam said:
3G is pointless with a 4G Thunderbolt to tether to.
Galaxy Tab has better battery life
Screen is WAY better.
32GB internal is plenty of data for me, I had a Xoom for 3 months and never used the SD Card even after I rooted and installed the kernel for it.
Dont get me wrong, I loved my Xoom, but I think its outdated now. Its big and bulky, and has a sub par screen.
Just my opinion, but I think my SGT is ALOT nicer.
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Try this experiment, that I did, only don't use your GT. I went into a BestBuy and tried to flex/twist the iPad2, Xoom and Iconia, The iPad2 and Xoom were solid, no give. The Iconia flexed and creaked. Let us know how the GT fares, but use a display model, not your personal GT.
As far as viewing angles go, I've not found the Xoom to be problematic as once the angle gets extreme the viewing experience goes down hill because of the angle, not just the change of image quality. Although I wouldn't complain if the Xoom had an IPA or equivalent display.

flyer is extremely laggy

davidsos said:
Try this experiment, that I did, only don't use your GT. I went into a BestBuy and tried to flex/twist the iPad2, Xoom and Iconia, The iPad2 and Xoom were solid, no give. The Iconia flexed and creaked. Let us know how the GT fares, but use a display model, not your personal GT.
As far as viewing angles go, I've not found the Xoom to be problematic as once the angle gets extreme the viewing experience goes down hill because of the angle, not just the change of image quality. Although I wouldn't complain if the Xoom had an IPA or equivalent display.
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Try this:
goto best buy, and slam the ipad2 on the ground. Does it break?
Point is, im careful with my devices. Im never going to "twist" my tablet. Its thin, so yes, its vulnerable. Luckily I am careful. If you want a brick to make sure you can twist your device without it breaking go for it.

[Q] Samsung vs

Hey guys.. im just a lil curious. I currently have a acer a500 and im kinda annoyed with acer support. When got me looking into returning it for an asus eee transformer, until I saw that this was released! Im im sure you guys are a little biased, but if you could have your choice of any pad would you buy the samsung again? my concern is mostly devs.... not a lot going on for the acer imo.

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Hey guys.. im just a lil curious. I currently have a acer a500 and im kinda annoyed with acer support. When got me looking into returning it for an asus eee transformer, until I saw that this was released! Im im sure you guys are a little biased, but if you could have your choice of any pad would you buy the samsung again? my concern is mostly devs.... not a lot going on for the acer imo.
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The choice is yours. If you want expandable storage, HDMI out, and save 100 bucks out of the box go with transformer. If you want a polished device all around, nice screen and have cash to burn on the things mentioned above - go with Samsung.
sent from an android device

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Hey guys.. im just a lil curious. I currently have a acer a500 and im kinda annoyed with acer support. When got me looking into returning it for an asus eee transformer, until I saw that this was released! Im im sure you guys are a little biased, but if you could have your choice of any pad would you buy the samsung again? my concern is mostly devs.... not a lot going on for the acer imo.
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yeah the apparent lack of dev support and locked bootloader (at the time) is why I returned my A500. Decided there really wasn't much I really needed all those ports for personally. Tried to test drive a TF at Fry's but the touchscreen wouldn't respond even after i rebooted. When I pointed it out to sales guy he said that was the 2nd display that stopped working which I took as a bad sign. So far pretty happy with my decision because the GT is much easier to handle and I've seen quite a few familiar names dev-wise showing up here.
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dsEVOlve said:
yeah the apparent lack of dev support and locked bootloader (at the time) is why I returned my A500. Decided there really wasn't much I really needed all those ports for personally. Tried to test drive a TF at Fry's but the touchscreen wouldn't respond even after i rebooted. When I pointed it out to sales guy he said that was the 2nd display that stopped working which I took as a bad sign. So far pretty happy with my decision because the GT is much easier to handle and I've seen quite a few familiar names dev-wise showing up here.
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ya ive heard the TF flexes alot.... is the GT more solid feeling? thanks for the reply pretty much exactly what i was thinking and looking to confirm . as long as the 30pin samsung port works with 3g dongles and keyboards im happy!

I had the acer for a couple weeks, then this tab came out and I returned the acer. To me it was more about DEV, I figured we would see custom ROMs faster on theGalaxy.
Thee device itself is much lighter, faster, and I didnt use any of the ports.
I actually had to return two of the acers cause they just kept force closing an the hardware/build was sketchy.
I am totally happy with the tab

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ya ive heard the TF flexes alot.... is the GT more solid feeling? thanks for the reply pretty much exactly what i was thinking and looking to confirm . as long as the 30pin samsung port works with 3g dongles and keyboards im happy!
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Is it more solid....if you mean does any part of it feel like it will come loose or feel cheap then no it just feels lighter than the A500 and Xoom. It seemed like people making an argument for the Xoom always equated its weight with a solid feel which I didn't understand. The A500 felt lighter but also felt more solid than the Xoom IMO.
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How is the "bloatware" content and ease of rooting? I had an Iconia 500 (returned 'cause I was a little afraid of ****ty Acer support and lack of dev support) but the Acer had a minimum of bloat and root was dead easy.

docfreed said:
How is the "bloatware" content and ease of rooting? I had an Iconia 500 (returned 'cause I was a little afraid of ****ty Acer support and lack of dev support) but the Acer had a minimum of bloat and root was dead easy.
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There are only two apps from Samsung prepossessing, a music market app (Music Hub) and Samsung's own market app. Rooting isn't one click or accomplished via an apk like Gingerbreak on the Acer (which I think I read doesn't even work on the 3.1 update). If you have a little experience with ADB and using a command prompt you prob won't find it difficult to root. The only issue I had was getting the Samsung drivers installed but that was more of an annoyance than anything else. The instructions are really pretty straightforward. I think someone is working on a script to run the root commands but I haven't seen it yet.
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returned my acer and got a samsung 16gig 10.1 today... little sad that my bootloader is locked but eah im sure with time this will get fixed. my acer was faster and no lag like my samsung does, but the samsung has more potential imo.

As an owner of both the Transformer and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 at the moment (will return one soon), I can give you some unbiased advice.
The Galaxy Tab is definitely the better tablet, as is. Meaning if you're not looking to spend any more money after you've paid for the tablet, you'll get the better tablet with the Galaxy Tab (of course, it's $100 more). The build quality is superior. It's thinner/light etc.
However, if you're looking for a tablet with more hardware features, then the Asus Transformer is obviously the clear winner.
The only concern I have with the Galaxy Tab is support from Samsung. Asus have been nothing but awesome. 3.1 firmware 3 weeks after announcement then kernel source shortly after. The Galaxy Tab came out with 3.1 so no idea how it will turn out... I haven't had a chance to own any Samsung phone but I've heard horror stories regarding Samsung's support. But I'm sure we'll have xda's excellent communities to help out with either tablet.

Motorola xoom , is it good?

hi everyone , ive just bought my motorola xoom mz604 , and i think its awesome because android honeycomb is really good OS, it is fast and smooth
but iam having some problems with installing apps, and i realized that most of them aren't compitable with the xoom, like the android games hawx, assassins creed and modern combat 2...
anyways i just wanted to know the adv and dis-adv of my device from an expert
thnx =)
sorry for my bad english

Answering the question in your title, the xoom IS good... very good, in fact. Sure there are a few apps here and there that do not work, but for the most part, everything runs fine. Additionally, the new scaling option in 3.2 ensures that more apps are functional. I simply love the beauty and elegance of honeycomb, and I still find the xoom to be my preferred method to obtain the honeycomb experience. Plus, being Google's reference HC device, we get all of the updates first.

I like it
3.1/3.2 is brill for emulators too when you connect up a ps3 controller via usb!

Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1

kwiggington said:
Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.

Ummmm. Its the "google dev" device. With that said...
Moto is a horrible company
The xoom 3g has turned into the last tab to recieve updates
Still no promised 4g
Sd support is only soso...
I would recommend a samsung device...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom

csseale said:
...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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I couldn't disagree more, but to each his own...

I'm plenty happy with mine, just a wifi though and no cell network model. That, honestly, is probably the issue with slow updates just like it is for my epic: the company that runs the network it's attached to wants to manage its stuff (aka install crap and extra 'features') and is slowing down the process. Sprint is HORRIBLE with this.
As for why I chose the xoom over others - part of it was price, it was the $400 32gb wifi model off woot.com. Second was that it has actual ports on it (micro-usb, mini-hdmi, etc) and not some proprietary jack *cough*galaxytab*cough* that you need to hook up some dorky dongle to in order to get a usb port.

I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
I have to root this thing to get that basic feature. I think they still haven't figured out the issue that devs figured out. Other than that I like it and apps are slowly starting to catch up.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.

JanetPanic said:
What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1

Plus no sd slot and only one port
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1

kwiggington said:
I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Fair Enough. Touchwiz might be able to be disabled when it comes out but maybe not. The xoom comes with a bit of crapware itself, dungeon defender and cordy are the ones that come to mind though there may be more.
It would not be worth the cost to me but to each his own. You could probably find a xoom owner who is fed up with Motorola enough to do a trade.

xoom
I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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I hope it's good Mine should be here tomorrow

I just exchanged the tab must say i like the xoom better and i already have a spare 16gb sd
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drsteven2 said:
I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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I second that
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4g is coming in sept. Per verizon
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Good, solid hardware.
Mine was rooted 5 minutes out of the box, so I have had SD R/W since day one.

gqstatus0685 said:
I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
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I had to fiddle around with the formatting in order to make it work, but I know the problem you had and eventually got around it. Try ntfs, fat, or whatever - just mess around with it in your computer until you find one that it likes. I forget offhand what made mine happy.

Acer Quality

I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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Oh my! as much as I don't want to spend more money, I might need to THIS LOOKS TO BE QUITE AN UPGRADE ..
To answer your question Acer has good quality for the bucks in your bank. I like Acer as this is my fist Acer product matter in fact the only complaint I have is the microphone it stinks.. but if they have fixed that which I'm sure they have ill be sure to pick this up!
Thanks for the link!
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Mic isn't bad at all, just not very loud... Some voice chat programs (including skype and gtalk, unfortunately) mess things up, though, giving you weird background noises (not on all devices, though, it works for me). Other than that, the Acer devices are very well worth their money.

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I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs

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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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I agree 120% with this .. I have a birthday coming in MAY .. Giggles..
if my a500 does not get the support it should.. i might just wait and get a win 8 arm tablet.. and Dual Boot it .but there is always battery issues with windows . we will see what the tech word brings us in 2012.. for now my a 500 meets all the HAVE to have needs.. as if i really NEED a tablet.

Acer always seems to be giving the best bang for your buck, whether it is laptops or not tablets.
One gripe I have against acer is their bloatware. Some may like it but others (like myself) can't stand it.
Also keep in mind that acer is releasing the A200 soon. It's pretty much the same spec wise as the A500 but apparently has no rear facing camera. The pricing looks quite attractive though. I'm still happy with my A500. I actually have no desire to replace it with something newer and better, and I usually drool over the latest and greatest in technology.

I've had an a500 since november and the build quality is great. They have been providing adequate updates so far, and I expect them to provide ICS, but we will see.
Ive been wanting to get a second tablet bc my daughter always has this one and wouldn't hesitate to buy another acer.

Other than build quality ill be looking at development on market app as well as on xda
Gameloft and other game developers choose a500 as a flag ship for development another reason I choose this tablet over Asus, Samsung, and Mototrola. I contacted Gameloft before I picked up a 10.1 tablet around September and asked them what tablet to pick up they told me Acer Iconia because Acer has been the only company that was helping them out the most with developmental needs.. so of course when I went to best buy they were out of a500s and I had 300 bucks from trading in my Droid incredible and I didn't want to wait so I picked up the thrive because of the nice stuff included with it.. but ended up having nothing as far as xda & others so picked up tf101 loved it but it kept slipping out of my hands.. lol so bestbuy finally called me to tell me the Acer was in so I picked it up answer fell in love with it. So that my awesome story and we lived happily ever after
So I will most likely pick up Acer if top devs do aswell.
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Thanks for the replies guys! I still have plenty of time to think this over. Acer is definitely a huge choice now though, and I like this community, way friendlier than the original Asus Transformer. Back before the Prime came out, I made a thread like this, asking about Asus and what to expect in the tablets, and it was immediately hostile responses. Terrible, but glad I didn't have enough to buy that Prime, so much bad reports about it. My choices are now this A700, thanks to your responses and some research, and the Asus TF700T.
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Oh, also something else, is Acer good with the bootloader? Like is it locked, or is it somewhat easy to root? Not a big deal, but just curious
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Lol your welcome too root is simple as long as u dont update u will just install an app that do it 4 you but if you dont know much about rooting you better search thses forums
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The Acer bootloader does some checksumming and stuff that makes rooting hard on the newer FWs, but there's a rooting method around that works (downgrading isn't much of a problem). As has been said, just use the search.

Alright, I was just wondering though, different company's products usually have completely different rooting methods than others; I've only ever rooted all my HTC phones, but thanks.
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Just thought some would find this info helpful..
UPDATE: Looks like this is indeed the A700. The folks at The Verge managed to find the new Iconia Tab lounging around in Vegas and discovered that it's packing a 1.3GHz quad-core Tegra 3 processor and Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, as well as the aforementioned 1080p display. It's also got Bluetooth support, a microSD card slot, and an HDMI port. As far as release details go, the A700 is said to be landing sometime in the second quarter, but no other specific launch information is known just yet.

Next best option to a500??

This is probably the wrong place to ask since most people have the a500, but what would you buy if it was for the a500? I think I might give up on the a500. I love it for the hardware you get for the money, but this wifi issue is killing me.
The wifi strength (or lack thereof) is ridiculous. I am sitting like 10 feet in front of my access point and it gets 25db less than my phone does in the same spot. My wife keeps bugging me to get the ipad and I really hate to even think about it, but I am not sure what else to do. The tablet is useless if it can't pick up wifi. I have until Feb 22nd to return it.
Thoughts?

Wifi issue? I guess I haven't read into the forums too much, since I just got mine a couple weeks ago, but I know my connection is nice and strong.
If I didn't get the a500, my other two choices would've been the Toshiba Thrive, or the Asus Transformer. I was leaning more towards the a500 or Thrive though, due to the full USB port.

Crocketeer said:
Wifi issue? I guess I haven't read into the forums too much, since I just got mine a couple weeks ago, but I know my connection is nice and strong.
If I didn't get the a500, my other two choices would've been the Toshiba Thrive, or the Asus Transformer. I was leaning more towards the a500 or Thrive though, due to the full USB port.
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I think it is pretty widely known that the signal strength in the a500 is poor at best. There is even a thread in this section about modifying it with a new antenna to try and help. 25dB difference in signal strength is HUGE, my phone should not be that much better than the a500.

I love the A500, I would have got the 32GB internal (but i got great deal of 16gb for $300 on Black Friday) I Herd of 8GB going for $229 about 4 weeks ago (can't argu with price) especially when you can buy a 32Gb SDCard and tweak it into internal memory (from another xda thread)
MAIN Reason why I bought mine was Real USB port, i liked ASUS (but no USB port turned me off) I read many reviews and after owning, wouldn't change a thing. Currently $349 for 16gb and $399 for 32GB. I'd buy the 32GB if i had a choice.
I don't ever have probs with Wi-fi at home, or Finding a hotspot on the road from my Rooted Phone.
maybe if you have the 16GB model, turn it in for 32GB version before January 22, and get another 15 or 30 days to make your best decision. (if you feel pressured)
just my opinion. GL

I had an Asus Transformer, they are nice tablets and you can get a dongle which plugs to the proprietary docking port to give you USB. I sold mine because I got such of waiting for someone to root the newer firmware. Four months on and it still doesn't seem to have happened. If you hunt around and make sure you get serial number b60 and below root is straightforward.
If you don't care about root you can obviously buy anything.
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My second choice was the galaxy tab, but I preferred the feel of the a500.
I have no issue with wifi. Signal is good and strong all over my house. And even outside the house
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Next best choice, a701.
Wifi has worked remarkably well. Internal 3g is solid. Probably the most all around tab.
And these tabs can take some abuse. 350+ flashings, patches, update flashes, testings. And yet, not once has it ever done anything worse than a common bootloop during testing.
Several times every day, -10c to +25, and immediately it turns on. Who can ask for more.
I wonder, can the others live up to that?

Mine would of been the Transformer, because it was the only tab i had close to me in the the same price range. I would also like something with 3g, but my phone has a WiFi hotspot so that isn't a problem anymore.
My WiFi works fine, maybe its an issue on some models and not all. I've never had a problem with my Acer ( i don't use it that much because my desktop is right in front of me.)

One has to love the full size USB.
And always, the cost to performance ratio.
$395 for a501. $350 for a500.
The 501 is my primary office machine right now. 85%

I have had every tab except the Samsung 10.1 8.9 and Sony S because lack of HDMI or SD card. I don't think the USB is a real deal breaker unless you use it daily or even weekly. We use it to transfer work files 1 time per month, but could easily plug the iconia into the computer instead of the USB to get the files we need. Or if you use wireless keyboard mouse that uses a dongle then the USB is useful. So with that said I would easily go for a tab that gets timely updates, unlocked, with a huge developer community. So XOOM, Xoom Family Edition (not unlocked but will get timely updates), Transformer (updated all the time Asus is standing behind its movement), Transformer Prime (will be relevant for awhile), Samsung 8.9 and 10.1 (awesome development community but lacks the ports we are used to), Archos 8 ( great hardware and media). No Thrive because its dead, big , and ugly.
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I have had every tab except the Samsung 10.1 8.9 and Sony S because lack of HDMI or SD card. I don't think the USB is a real deal breaker unless you use it daily or even weekly. We use it to transfer work files 1 time per month, but could easily plug the iconia into the computer instead of the USB to get the files we need. Or if you use wireless keyboard mouse that uses a dongle then the USB is useful. So with that said I would easily go for a tab that gets timely updates, unlocked, with a huge developer community. So XOOM, Xoom Family Edition (not unlocked but will get timely updates), Transformer (updated all the time Asus is standing behind its movement), Transformer Prime (will be relevant for awhile), Samsung 8.9 and 10.1 (awesome development community but lacks the ports we are used to), Archos 8 ( great hardware and media). No Thrive because its dead, big , and ugly.
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Or you could buy an iPad. Everything you could ever imagine, all in one extremely thin.... display. Never worry about anything. Take what is given. Expect nothing.
Asus support, well, given their latest offering already fubarred from the start (TRNSFR P). Samsung,,, another situation in itself. Nothing like using extra apps to do what one app could've done. And like you said, NOBODY wants to port a Samsung....

Thanks for the input. I wouldn't be opposed trying another a500 but unfortunately where I got it they don't carry it anymore. Decisions, decisions.....
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Or you could buy an iPad. Everything you could ever imagine, all in one extremely thin.... display. Never worry about anything. Take what is given. Expect nothing.
Asus support, well, given their latest offering already fubarred from the start (TRNSFR P). Samsung,,, another situation in itself. Nothing like using extra apps to do what one app could've done. And like you said, NOBODY wants to port a Samsung....
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True. The I pad is solid, but I pad 3 will be out in March
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True. The I pad is solid, but I pad 3 will be out in March
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Throw that Iconia in the garbage. And jump right on that 3,4, or 5, 6 or 7pad.
Just don't come back here. You will get no symphathy.
Sorry, we are a little territorial.

I would really like to avoid going the iPad route because I really do think it is a waste of money compared to what else is out there in the android world. I got the a500 at a steal of a price too because of a price mistake on Thanksgiving so I would hate to have to give this up, but the poor wifi is REALLY bothering me. When I go to my in-laws, I can barely use the tablet because it doesn't get signal most places in their small home.

At the time that I bought the A500, I was choosing between it and a refurbed original iPad. Since I had an Android phone, I really wanted an Android tablet, but I really didn't like any other Android tablet out at the time. After buying my kids Nook Colors for Christmas, I probably would've added the Nook Color to my decision making process if I had known more about it back then, but although the Nook Color makes a great, inexpensive tablet solution, it doesn't really compare to the A500.
I had significant problems getting my oldest son's original iPad connected to my home network -- EVERYTHING else connects to it just fine, and I'm a career network engineer (retired) so I'm not exactly stupid on the subject. All the "tech" advice I got from Apple zealots was that I needed to get a genuine Apple branded router to solve the problem (NOT in this house, baby!). I even had a few problems getting the daughter's new iPad2 connected. In other words, your wifi problems aren't going to necessarily go away by going iPad -- they may actually get worse.
All that being said, I'm simply not seeing a wifi problem with my A500. The only thing I've noticed is that with the HC 3.2.1 update, wifi seems to give up quicker when nothing is in range, but I'm looking at that as a battery saving feature rather than a problem. Prior versions of HC would always continue to hammer the wifi radio looking for an AP, significantly draining the battery. I've discussed this elsewhere in other threads, and it would seem that A500 owners are each getting rather different experiences with wifi. I think we're looking at a hardware variance here (both internal to the A500 as well as network hardware each owner is using).

id hold out for tegra 3 its on the horizon and yeah

xceebeex said:
Thanks for the input. I wouldn't be opposed trying another a500 but unfortunately where I got it they don't carry it anymore. Decisions, decisions.....
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Watch this (it's a YouTube video on the A500 wifi capabilities)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLNTCU90kkE&feature=player_embedded
And try flashing this wifi fix in CWM.
Some have had success with it!
http://www.multiupload.com/L5O10H0C7F

kjy2010 said:
Watch this (it's a YouTube video on the A500 wifi capabilities)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLNTCU90kkE&feature=player_embedded
And try flashing this wifi fix in CWM.
Some have had success with it!
http://www.multiupload.com/L5O10H0C7F
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That is interesting to see. Mine definitely does not do that. I use wifi analyzer to determine my signal strength as well, not the bars. The a500 gets 25dB less signal strength than my phone in the same exact spot.
As far as the fix goes, I didn't think that fix had anything to do with signal strength, I thought it was about actual connection issues? I am not rooted either, so I don't have CWM installed anyway.

qhinton said:
True. The I pad is solid, but I pad 3 will be out in March
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I just purchased a Sammy 8.9 for 350 at BBY. And its pretty good. Light, pretty fast, and the screen is great. I will se how I manage eith out my ports. I never thought or cared about size and weight but its really a joy to handle.
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