As you all know the Nexus for Sprint is out and soon to be (my favorite) the Evo 3D. But with this new 10$ add on bill for any smartphone you get (even if you have the data unlimited plan) seems to let me down a lot on deciding if i should upgrade soon. I mean if you think about it every time you get a new smart phone 10$ is added to your bill. so theoretically your bill can be limitless. Ya i know 10$ is not much but hell, im only 20 and in school for a surg tech degree, i cant afford that monthly extra.
I really have no point in this paragraph haha. I guess just be blessed for those that are getting those awesome new tech. and il Duce, youre the only one i know so far that is moving on to the 3D, so please dont forget us HeroC homeless that cant afford it .
Hopefully Sprint will get rid of this mental add on. But in the mean time thinks for reading my rant
I'll most likely pick it up. Despite the cryptographiclly signed bootloader, kernel, and recovery, it will still kick ass. I looked through my apps and realized that there are only a few apps I have that require root access. I'll miss my wireless tether, but Mrs. User has a rooted hero, so I guess I could use hers.
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I use a lot of root apps. Plus I want something that I can mod in the long run. I'm not too sure about the Evo anymore. I'm switching to the Nexus.
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I'll most likely pick it up. Despite the cryptographiclly signed bootloader, kernel, and recovery, it will still kick ass. I looked through my apps and realized that there are only a few apps I have that require root access. I'll miss my wireless tether, but Mrs. User has a rooted hero, so I guess I could use hers.
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From what I know about signed bootloaders and stuff, you can still root the phone - you just won't be able to put any custom firmware/roms/kernels/flash radios,etc.
That's why I'm straying away from the 3D as of now.. I compile my own roms and would go crazy if I had to stick with the stock ROM and not be able to load my roms, or at the very least load CM
But at least HTC said they'd "Review their bootloader policy" We'll see if they actually do anything about it though.
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From what I know about signed bootloaders and stuff, you can still root the phone - you just won't be able to put any custom firmware/roms/kernels/flash radios,etc.
That's why I'm straying away from the 3D as of now.. I compile my own roms and would go crazy if I had to stick with the stock ROM and not be able to load my roms, or at the very least load CM
But at least HTC said they'd "Review their bootloader policy" We'll see if they actually do anything about it though.
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Dude, Sprint and HTC could team up and become the modders bastion! Unlimited data combined with the excellent hardware would make them great. Sadly, this throws a wrench into the works.
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I don't think the carriers really have much of a word in things like that (well, except for AT&T with the whole not being able to (easily?) side-load apps), though it's interesting to see other manufacturers becoming more open with their devices, and HTC going the other direction. Hell, even Motorola said they won't release such locked down phones now.
Here's to hoping we get a variant of the G2x.... with qHD.
I didnt know it was coming with a signed BL!! where do you devs get this crazy info at. This might change my plans.
But Yeah the 3d sounds just like a beast, but im just so addicting to moding. Man this is a toughy. I thought HTC was pretty open to opening the BL.. hope they dont pull a Steve Jobs =(
If you want to boycott HTC and still want Sense, get the Nexus S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034130
Its GSM but the CDMA version is coming
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I didnt know it was coming with a signed BL!! where do you devs get this crazy info at. This might change my plans.
But Yeah the 3d sounds just like a beast, but im just so addicting to moding. Man this is a toughy. I thought HTC was pretty open to opening the BL.. hope they dont pull a Steve Jobs =(
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Not just the bootloader, but the recovery and the kernel are cryptographically signed. With 256 bit encryption. Virtually uncrackable without a leak from HTC.
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Not just the bootloader, but the recovery and the kernel are cryptographically signed. With 256 bit encryption. Virtually uncrackable without a leak from HTC.
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Thats intense. wonder why the heavy encrypting?
even encryption can be broken
®parallel universe®
MattCrystal said:
even encryption can be broken
®parallel universe®
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I will be AMAZED
if you devs can do that.
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I will be AMAZED
if you devs can do that.
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For a 256, that would be something. But alas, we all have.to.wake up some time.
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even encryption can be broken
®parallel universe®
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Only way I could see it being remotely possible is if we set up one of those distributed computing/"donate your cpu time" clients to have thousands of computers working on cracking the key at the same time.
256-bit keys are srs bisness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brute-force_attack
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even encryption can be broken
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I will be AMAZED
if you devs can do that.
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If you look at what our amazing devs have done already, I would be the least bit surprised if they did it in no time
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If you look at what our amazing devs have done already, I would be the least bit surprised if they did it in no time
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no need, HTC is going to unlock, click link in my sig.
+1 for our amazing devs...let the shameless butt-kissing ensue. Seriously, they've allowed my little Heroc to live on far beyond it's natural life-span.
FWIW about the new phones though, I was tempted, but I'm holding off till the X-mas lineup comes out. As the commercial goes "...then we must teach you to wait." The Evo 3D looks like a solid contender, but I'm shying away from the Nexus S...1) no microsd card support, and 2) it's a samsung (I'm the "proud" owner of two Moments...uuuuugghh).
With rumors about the Nexus 3 being made by HTC and avail on Sprint, if it happens, that's what I'll jump for. Here's hoping!
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Hi all,
First post, but I've been lurking for a bit.
Anyway, I just got my Hero with Sprint about a week ago and am running DamageControl's current ROM. It's a killer phone, but from what I understand the Droid has more processing power. I've got another 3 weeks to give back everything and get free Droids with Verizon.
I know this is a Hero forum, but I wondered if anybody knew of a "benchmarking" resource for all Android phones.....
thanks!
PS You guys are amazing! I can't believe the amount of product that comes out of this board.
as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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Or wait for the one after that with the dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon...
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Or wait for the one after that with the dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon...
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or wait for the one after that with the 2TB internal storage and stock blowjob app.
whats after that? lol
i like the hero and am willing to stick with it until the evo, and as for whatever comes out after that...i dont know. (android, htc, ect) will eventually release their own iPad, im sure, but i guess its a matter of what YOU want. i got a great plan with sprint (54$ for unlmtd everything) with great coverage (detroit it a major city, its bound to be set up good for the 3G user) and a highly customizable phone to say the least (ill admit i was disappointed when i got the hero, learned of the nexus and all the new upncumins) and am excited to move onto the evo, and can wait patiently.
well, idk about patiently...but ill be waiting...
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stock blowjob app.
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I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it
regaw_leinad said:
I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it
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You know you just indirectly asked him if he wanted a blowjob..
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You know you just indirectly asked him if he wanted a blowjob..
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whoops.... not really what I meant. It's 3:45am. I need sleep. Working on version 300434 beta 98 of my rom lol
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whoops.... not really what I meant. It's 3:45am. I need sleep. Working on version 300434 beta 98 of my rom lol
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lol funny read
looking forward to the beta, PM if youd like me to diagnose dr
and its kewl about the BJ app, i found a freshly seeded torrent, multiported(wtf?) for any phone/ROM
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as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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I was able to see the evo up and running the other day.... WOW. Slim and sleek and very fast... took about a 1/3 or less of the time it took the Hero to open stuff. It was running on 2.1 as well and look really similar to Damages 2.1v5 ROM. This handset is going to really help out Sprint. Only thing the one I saw lacking was they hadn't activated the 4g on it yet.
mountaindont said:
as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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Yeah, after studying competing prices, I don't know that I could stomach what everybody else is charging. I just don't get how anybody is competing with Sprint at this point!
I'm paying $129 -%15 for two lines, 1500 minutes, web, txt, and mobile-to-mobile. ANYBODY else charges $40-80 a month more!
I guess it's good for us they're so desperate for customers
PS I'm curious as to the price of the EVO. Any guesses?
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Yeah, after studying competing prices, I don't know that I could stomach what everybody else is charging. I just don't get how anybody is competing with Sprint at this point!
I'm paying $129 -%15 for 1500 minutes, web, txt, and mobile-to-mobile. ANYBODY else charges $40-80 a month more!
I guess it's good for us they're so desperate for customers
PS I'm curious as to the price of the EVO. Any guesses?
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with contract? maybe 250 with a rebate? i honestly could NOT even begin to speculate
something i sorely missed somehow
the evo has a fn kickstand?!?!
regaw_leinad said:
I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it
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Hehehe leaked version, sounds a bit premature if ya know what I mean.
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I was able to see the evo up and running the other day.... WOW. Slim and sleek and very fast... took about a 1/3 or less of the time it took the Hero to open stuff. It was running on 2.1 as well and look really similar to Damages 2.1v5 ROM. This handset is going to really help out Sprint. Only thing the one I saw lacking was they hadn't activated the 4g on it yet.
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HTC is hacking 4G support into the Evo. Just like they did with CDMA
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HTC is hacking 4G support into the Evo. Just like they did with CDMA
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At least until the next android update (Froyo) is out. I believe Froyo is supposed to support 4G natively
haha, yeah it does. they had it on another phone of theirs in the past (winmo). I wonder what video formats will be supported natively. I hope they add .avi support.
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im still stuck on the freaking kickstand.
Just ask regaw_leinad for a copy of his backported leaky bj app...that'll take your mind off things for awhile.
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id love to see a full working port of android for the tp2, id hop on that super quick. the design and screen resolution is awesome. other than that id say if you want fast wait for the n1 or evo.
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.. And stock blowjob app.
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do want.
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Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
Darch is still here, Regaw is still here. Not sure who else is.
Toast and flipz have said hero dev will continue, just slow. I think jschi didn't jump ship either. And he is a genius
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
radxcoresteven said:
When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
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No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
cheer up
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
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HeroMeng said:
No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
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there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
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Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
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^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
usq said:
there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
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I'm not that sad... lol. I am, however, sweltering, tired, and need to turn my AC on. Darchdroid is the best OC rom out there, and RegawMOD is the best NON-OC rom out there, so I think we are pretty good in the dev side of things.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
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That sucks. I forgot the Nexus was an HTC phone, but I was mostly referring to getting phones that don't have Sense. They usually are updated much faster.
I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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The Hero is sort of the unwanted stepchild of XDA now. But, all the first-time Ebay adopters are coming to our "rescue".
I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
Save up and buy an evo.
This is just how the phone loop rolls, once theres something better , you don't go back.
I will be keeping my hero, but yeah look at it this way , XDA devs are not the only ones dumping the phone , so is sprint.
HeroMeng said:
Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a f
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
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It does have "full root" but the storage has nand locked/protected. It's like that little switch on and SD card or floppy to protect it only its software not hardware theyll break it in a week or two. You can pull apks in recovery... and WiFi tether needs a netfilter kernel so give em a week and it will work.
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I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
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Well Regaw should be back at it soon and with you here it should all be ok anyways.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(
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I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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ouch. thats grim.
Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.
that would have been my next question, if V had requested this setup specifically.
it would seem the "other companies" are oh-so-bunched-up re: tethering w/o a plan, being the big issue with custom ROMs. Sprint might not be as concerned (so far) about that, and thus, not concerned about rooted phones? idk... idle speculation
No surprise here. After all, they did cripple their gpus for over 4 years. This is nothing. Htc = garbage.
Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
On the other hand, the devs only took three days to break all that ****, so perhaps it's a case of "anything you can do, we can do better," and HTC/Verizon's efforts will meet with utter #FAIL.
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Htc = garbage.
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compared to what, exactly?
I an confidant I will have super user permissions and custom everything thanks to my geek friends on here.
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kingdazy said:
compared to what, exactly?
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His opinion. Take it as a grain of salt
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TonyArmstrong said:
Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
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I'm betting that this is the case.
Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
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I think it does. I remember back when we were starting to flashing ROMs... well they had to be signed in order to be installed or the recovery program would outright refuse to put it on the phone. I guess the implication on this is that even the recovery image itself must be signed in order to install as well as the ROMs. Now, with the EVO, the recovery part does not care if the ROM zip file is signed or not (well, RA has this setting disabled so it will flash regardless) but there was one point where any file that needed to be flashed on the device needed to be signed.
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Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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Yay!!!
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psych2l said:
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)
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I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)
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Yup and we will all get a clone of every chick we would love to smash (also highly unlikely)
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I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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id bet cash its Verizon and not HTC doing this
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Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.
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I bet you're right, verizon is anal about locking their phones down, they are evil people! I hate verizon...
According to some of the comments it is the same old locked bootloader as the evo and incredible. I doubt HTC will try that hard to lock them down.
heck, sometimes I wonder if they give hints about security holes on purpose. Just the other day I saw something in one of the new ROM leaks that gave me some ideas
http://goo.gl/juc8e
Well, I thought Sprint was going to announce that tomorrow. I wonder if they are going to replace that announcement with the Atrix and Xoom.
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Guess this means EVO 3D announcement is around the corner, ha. Odd time to release this, but hey, maybe it won't sell like crap, and show Sprint/Samsung that hey, manufacturer skins are garbage, keep it stock. Well, one can hope...
I think the AT&T - TMobile merger must have triggered this.
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I think the AT&T - TMobile merger must have triggered this.
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Me too. Nice to see sprint and google getting all kozy. warms the cockles...
I can't wait to get one.
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Me too. Nice to see sprint and google getting all kozy. warms the cockles...
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Even more so when you consider that Sprint is replacing vvm with google voice.
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/03/21/sprint-google-voice-cozy-heavy-integration-coming/
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/evo-3d-specs-confirmed-1080p-2d-video-720p-3d-dual-cameras-1/
I think the Nexus S will be a suitable replacement for the Hero. Although I must say that I will be a bit sad to see it go...
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Wow this is not going to be an easy choice next upgrade... can't wait for reviews on the 3d
HTC SuperHero Vanilla/Gingerbread 2.3.3 all credit to AOSP
The idea of a "pure Google experience" is very enticing, but if the HTC EVO 3D becomes a reality also, this upgrade I've been sitting on for a couple months goes to HTC. The 2 side by side, I don't think the Nexus brand is enough to persuade me to give Sammy another try.
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I like the idea of a stock Android phone on Sprint, and sure, it's a overall great phone, but it's still 7-8 month old tech. Sure, the 3D is going to have Sense sadly, but I can't imagine the development scene for that beast being small.
stayclean said:
I like the idea of a stock Android phone on Sprint, and sure, it's a overall great phone, but it's still 7-8 month old tech. Sure, the 3D is going to have Sense sadly, but I can't imagine the development scene for that beast being small.
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Sure, it will have Sense, but from what I understand, it's upgraded Sense, and with far more horsepower pushing it, it may not be so bad.
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I like the nexus S but i want a bigger screen. 4.8 or 5" is what i want. I have a bad feeling the new Evo 3d Will be at least 350$ with contract. I dont know why i could get a nex if i could have a dual core 3d evo for the same price.
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Sure, it will have Sense, but from what I understand, it's upgraded Sense, and with far more horsepower pushing it, it may not be so bad.
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Oh, it'll definitely run smooth I'm sure, I just really, really, really dislike basically everything about it's appearance, way it handles certain things (contact stuff and etc), and whatnot. At least there is basically no way there won't be a great development scene for it.
Also, http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/htc-evo-3d-first-hands-on/
I am aware that the devs are hard at work to find a root method for og evo users and they will most likely find one but just out of curiosity what would you do a root wasnt found? Would you get a new phone? What phone would you get would you buy a rooted phone off craigslist?
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yes, if a sprint phone comes out that would be worth upgrading to and has root, I would be inclined to do so.
I wouldn't because its still a excellent phone for everyday usage ..
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I ve been looking @ this photon. Not a bad phone and has been rooted. I would switch
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I know that this question has already been asked before, but I am too lazy to search for the thread.
No, I would not go out of my way to upgrade and/or replace my phone just because it doesn't have root unless an easy way to do so presented itself. I would prefer to have a rooted phone, but since I will likely be waiting for a new generation (i.e. not this current refresh cycle, including the EVO 3D, Photon 4G, etc.) of phones before I do a replacement, any new phone I get will probably not be rooted right away (or if I get an iPhone, the issue becomes moot) so it makes no difference to me.
If I get an Android phone the next go-round, it will almost certainly be an HTC. Aside from the fact that I just like their form factor and think they make quality phones, they seem to have the support of a large portion of the dev community so whatever the FOTM HTC phone is will be what I get.
That Photon looks pretty fancy.
My wife got the photon and it just seems generic to me. All the widgets are plain Jane...I guess I've just grown acustomed to sense..
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No because coming soon at htcdev.com they will ave an unlocked bootloader webbased tool
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No because coming soon at htcdev.com they will ave an unlocked bootloader webbased tool
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Which is already confirmed to not currently support the EVO 4G, nor is there a projected timeframe for when it might. Most of us assume it never will, because HTC wants to encourage people to upgrade.
Nope! cuz I waited for a long ass time to get this phone and regardless if there's root or not my phone is still the **** and compared to a blackberry...Mmmhmm Naaw I don't think so I'll die before I go back to that
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Nah, I just got this phone at the end of June when Sprint was allowing 2 year upgrade resets. LauncherPro Plus allows me to hide the bloatware in the app drawer, and it runs really smooth for being stock.
If I get bored I could always activate the HTC Touch or Touch Pro, I regret trading in my Moment though; Still quite a bit of development going on with it.
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Nope! cuz I waited for a long ass time to get this phone and regardless if there's root or not my phone is still the **** and compared to a blackberry...Mmmhmm Naaw I don't think so I'll die before I go back to that
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I have actually been honestly taking a hard look at their newest QNX operating system and thinking about whether or not that would be something I could see myself moving towards. I have a BB for work and while it's substandard compared to my EVO (a lot of the reason is that the BES settings for government phones are very restrictive and lock out a lot of features) there are some things that just can't be beat about it. For example, I haven't plugged it in to charge it for three days and it's still got almost 75% of its battery left, and I get a lot of emails and phone calls at work.
I don't know. It would be a hard sell, but I have been thinking about it.
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I have actually been honestly taking a hard look at their newest QNX operating system and thinking about whether or not that would be something I could see myself moving towards. I have a BB for work and while it's substandard compared to my EVO (a lot of the reason is that the BES settings for government phones are very restrictive and lock out a lot of features) there are some things that just can't be beat about it. For example, I haven't plugged it in to charge it for three days and it's still got almost 75% of its battery left, and I get a lot of emails and phone calls at work.
I don't know. It would be a hard sell, but I have been thinking about it.
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Oh man the battery life on those things are ridiculously good my pearl was a soldier lol I dropped it in 3 different types of liquid :drunk: 3 times the damn thing came back to life with the rice trick lol
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infamousteeboy said:
Oh man the battery life on those things are ridiculously good my pearl was a soldier lol I dropped it in 3 different types of liquid :drunk: 3 times the damn thing came back to life with the rice trick lol
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Yeah, my BB is a trooper; been carried around the house by a great dane with no negative impact.
I'm keeping the Evo until I am eligible for an upgrade, or it dies.
If it goes the way of the dodo, I would probably go back to my hero, until the next HTC phone comes out.
I personally would go get a evo3d or epic touch i used to not b into all this rooting and flashing roms but i love trying to find the next new tweak to make my phone more powerful damn you xda!!! damn you!! Haha jk
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I think a lot of people on this site don't face the issue you do since they've been active on the site and didn't foolishily upgrade to the latest OTA when it came out.
I think it's safe to say the majority of the people here in the EVO section still have root
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I think a lot of people on this site don't face the issue you do since they've been active on the site and didn't foolishily upgrade to the latest OTA when it came out.
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I didn't take the OTA, I had to get my phone replaced. Your attitude is unwarranted.
MaxCarnage said:
I didn't take the OTA, I had to get my phone replaced. Your attitude is unwarranted.
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well be more careful with your phone then
deathsled said:
well be more careful with your phone then
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Wow because hardware failure is our fault. You tard.
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