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Why only one usb????

Why only one usb!!!!!!
I think that anotherone may be very very usefull....
OR NOT?
Anyone agree?

For what?
pitt1983 said:
Why only one usb!!!!!!
I think that anotherone may be very very usefull....
OR NOT?
Anyone agree?
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What do you wanna use it for? havent used mine a single time since i got the device.

ehm..
ehm..
usb key and mouse,
usb key and an external hdd
2 external hdd
mouse and external hdd
2 usb pen
an external dvd that need 2 usb
included hub need 2 usb
and i think many many many others uses

You get a free USB hub with Ethernet !!
Included in the package is a USB hub with 3 ports, AND an ETHERNET port !
Nice... I really do like my device

pitt1983 said:
ehm..
included hub need 2 usb
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really ? why would they put a usb hub that does not work with the shift... seems weird !
everybody here is using the usb hub without any issue I believe.. because they would have complained earlier

The (much bigger) MacBook AIR also has only one USB port... and Apple doesn't include an 3port-USB-Hub with embedded ethernet port - the shift does.
But there are of course also technical reasons (besides space): Power! An additional USB Port would require additinal power (up to 0,5A at 5V) - thus, the internal power system must be bigger sized for this (and an "oversized" internal power system means: Inefficent under normal operating conditions).
And remember: Most USB Disks draw more than 0,5A from the USB port, especially at spinup time...

pitt1983 said:
included hub need 2 usb
and i think many many many others uses
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not true. Did you try it ?

no need usb?
so noone need another usb?
I love my shift! i waited for it one year.
but i think that one more usb port can be more useful.
i repeat. LOVE THAT SHIFT!

McDoPDA said:
not true. Did you try it ?
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if you use htc hub and two portable usb hdd you can't use them. or if i use an external dvd that bring alimentation by usb i can use it.
sorry for my english.

pitt1983 said:
if you use htc hub and two portable usb hdd you can't use them. or if i use an external dvd that bring alimentation by usb i can use it.
sorry for my english.
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ok I see what you mean .. mmh well.. maybe you can find an usb hub with external power ? it would solve all the issues

external power
koala996 said:
ok I see what you mean .. mmh well.. maybe you can find an usb hub with external power ? it would solve all the issues
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when i'm in office or at home i use an external power cable directly connected to the htc hub. but is not comfortable.
and when i'm out or in others places i can't use external power cable.
in my opinion not comfortable anymore.

Isn't the small USB port at the back of the Hub just power in? I didn't try yet, but it is obviously a IN port.
Axel

These usb options are great but I think you missing the point of the shift.
The shift is supposed to be a portable device, are you really going to bring all those wired devices with you? Do you really want to be connecting all that up each time you get to work or your desk at home? everyday?
Why not use bluetooth devices?
keyboard and mouse -bluetooth for sure.
Same goes for the pens, portable scanners and printers almost all of them can be found with a bluetooth options.
Hell I even use bluetooth devices for the serial connections on the routers and switches I work with.
Now your external dvd and hardrive to replace those you have to get creative -
For home and work I always map a drive from a desktop machine.
On the road you have a couple of options with flash drives at 16gb for $50-70 bucks do really need that old external harddrive that uses two ports?
32GB flash drives are now as low as $150. Quite few dvd's you can fit on that!
If you really want to be free of carrying stuff around sign up for sugarsync or some other online service and never carry your data again.
I almost never use the external usb hub that came with the shift. It is a last resort item for me, destined for the bottom of the laptop bag. Wifi, 3g and no cables will always be prefered over that thing.
You may like sticking with usb cable/dongle devices but consider switching a few out for more wireless solutions and I think you will like your shift a whole lot better. That rats nest of cables in your laptop bag will shink as well!
I am not knocking you question or the advise others have given just offering an alternative.
My dream is for somebody to find a way to charge the battery on my shift without a cable connected then I will die a happy man.

EinSiedler said:
Isn't the small USB port at the back of the Hub just power in? I didn't try yet, but it is obviously a IN port.
Axel
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yes is a power in port. if shift had 2 ports i can be able to use it whitout a power connector at wall (sorry for the expression) i don't know how to say it in english.
however shift have one only usb port. and it is not comfortable.

stormforger said:
These usb options are great but I think you missing the point of the shift.
The shift is supposed to be a portable device, are you really going to bring all those wired devices with you? Do you really want to be connecting all that up each time you get to work or your desk at home? everyday?
Why not use bluetooth devices?
keyboard and mouse -bluetooth for sure.
Same goes for the pens, portable scanners and printers almost all of them can be found with a bluetooth options.
Hell I even use bluetooth devices for the serial connections on the routers and switches I work with.
Now your external dvd and hardrive to replace those you have to get creative -
For home and work I always map a drive from a desktop machine.
On the road you have a couple of options with flash drives at 16gb for $50-70 bucks do really need that old external harddrive that uses two ports?
32GB flash drives are now as low as $150. Quite few dvd's you can fit on that!
If you really want to be free of carrying stuff around sign up for sugarsync or some other online service and never carry your data again.
I almost never use the external usb hub that came with the shift. It is a last resort item for me, destined for the bottom of the laptop bag. Wifi, 3g and no cables will always be prefered over that thing.
You may like sticking with usb cable/dongle devices but consider switching a few out for more wireless solutions and I think you will like your shift a whole lot better. That rats nest of cables in your laptop bag will shink as well!
I am not knocking you question or the advise others have given just offering an alternative.
My dream is for somebody to find a way to charge the battery on my shift without a cable connected then I will die a happy man.
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yeah charging batteries without power cord maybe the century revelation. i hope will be a reality...
i return to my argument ( always sorry for my english)
online storage are not very fast.. or capable for the gigabites that i need to carry with me.
every day i need to put on my pc's, shift included, customers files, personal files, try many new programs. and these actions (you well know on microsoft may destroy very fast a system configuration). an you know that vista business and ultimate have an usefull utility of backup. i need to backup and restore many times in a week or in a day my sistem. so, i need to carry with me many hdd or 8gb pen drive..
and this is my problem..

EinSiedler said:
Isn't the small USB port at the back of the Hub just power in? I didn't try yet, but it is obviously a IN port.
Axel
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if you put your mobile phone power cord in the htc hub will be feeded up.
now when hub is feeded you can put more hdd or an external dvd. but if you unput power cord the dvd or the hdds not work yet...

Did you plug a power supply in the mini usb plug on the back? This is a powered USB hub.

i think htc could of added more usb ports but the biggest problem was the space. more usb ports could of made it bigger. never disassembled or looked at the disassembly pics close but im guessing there is no more room really.

Pawel062 said:
i think htc could of added more usb ports but the biggest problem was the space. more usb ports could of made it bigger. never disassembled or looked at the disassembly pics close but im guessing there is no more room really.
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i saw by a cinese or corean site the shift got naked, i think that there is some littlle space to put another usb port. i think.

Erhhh its a umpc not a workstation
pitt1983 said:
ehm..
usb key and mouse,
usb key and an external hdd
2 external hdd
mouse and external hdd
2 usb pen
an external dvd that need 2 usb
included hub need 2 usb
and i think many many many others uses
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This is not a workstation, if you need a all this you may have bought the wrong form factor. i have never used my usb port, i dont see what i should connect to this form factor, maybe a usb stick once in a while..
else use the usb hub and bluetooth mouse/keyboard

[INFO] USB host works with female to female USB gender changer

I bought a USB female to female adapter to plug on the end of the charging cord, some things work, some things don't.
List of devices that work:
HTC Hero - Mass Storage mode (works 2 out of 5 tries aprox.)
Logitech G9 - Works, although only default buttons (left, right, scroll, middle) seem to work
SanDisk Cruzer 4GB USB Stick - Works
Generic Logitech wired keyboard - Works, although not all keys do.
List of devices that DON'T work:
Logitech Wireless Keyboard K250
USB external DAC
Generic Logitech USB mouse

I hope it can read usb flash drive too !!! already bought my female-to-female adapter too

I just tried hooking up my HTC hero with mass storage enabled and it seems to be hit and miss? It recognizes it 2 out of 5 times or so.

How about finding and wiring USB from the 40 pin connector
It is a given the 40 pin connector has USB. Does anyone have pinout / mating connector info?

Sweet, can you check external HDD? Powered 3.5 and portable 2.5in if possible?

buri73 said:
Sweet, can you check external HDD? Powered 3.5 and portable 2.5in if possible?
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Don't have any on hand at the moment, I will possibly have access to an ext HDD tomorrow though and will check it then if I can.

That's great news. I did like having USB host on my GTab.

i'm assuming it's all fat32. it would be nice if ntfs worked out the box.

madsquabbles said:
i'm assuming it's all fat32. it would be nice if ntfs worked out the box.
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NTFS SHOULD be supported, but yes mine are all FAT32/FATex/ext4

i will have to try again, i built a gender changer, tried it with one mouse, and it did not work so i assumed it would not work for anything, i'll have to try some thumb drives or something.

T3rry1 said:
i will have to try again, i built a gender changer, tried it with one mouse, and it did not work so i assumed it would not work for anything, i'll have to try some thumb drives or something.
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it seems really picky, it recognized my G9 mouse but not a generic logitech one.

Just speculating, but I would guess that it isn't up to spec. So devices that have looser requirements will work (say it can take 4V instead of requiring 5V), but devices with stricter requirements fail.

did you try a all-in-one type card reader?
or connect digital camera to it?

T3rry1 said:
i will have to try again, i built a gender changer, tried it with one mouse, and it did not work so i assumed it would not work for anything, i'll have to try some thumb drives or something.
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Isn't that because USB mouse support is not in Honeycomb yet?

FrayAdjacent said:
Isn't that because USB mouse support is not in Honeycomb yet?
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No, Usb mouse is supported by HC. You can use one with the dock. This is more likely a power thing. The port's main use is power in and data, not power out. It may have strange limits.

cyberguest said:
did you try a all-in-one type card reader?
or connect digital camera to it?
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don't have any of those, sorry.

Picked up a USB female to female plug today, and proceeded to plug in various drives, mice, Phoness etc, but no sign of anything happening at all. Is there something else I'm missing here? Cheers.

Can anyone with an SD/card reader see if it's recognized?
I'm going on vacation soon and would love to back up my photos to the TF.

Thought about this 2 days ago and bought one yesterday. Tried to plug in my Inspire 4G, external USB HDD and USB jumpdrive. None of them worked.

Merlin_AZ said:
Can anyone with an SD/card reader see if it's recognized?
I'm going on vacation soon and would love to back up my photos to the TF.
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I tried a multi card reader and it didn't work. I didn't try a card reader that reads only SD (don't have one) but I doubt that it's gonna work given everything else I tried didn't (usb mouse, usb flash drives, Nikon DSLR)

How To Make Your Own OTG Cable : Video Tutorial and Demo of USB Mouse

So if you are like me. Waiting a week for your OTG cable to come to your doorstep is not an option. Especially if I can make one with existing cords and equipment I have laying around. If soldering happens to be one of your skills then this is the guide for you.
This is what you need.
Micro USB Cable … Really you need the Micro USB Head
Female USB Cable Head … Pulled mine out of an old computer
USB Cable … to connect the two heads … I used the cable from the Micro USB
Solder Kit … connect the Heads to cords
But this video puts everything in context and you also can see how the mouse works on 3.1
http://youtu.be/COkLEJGo6vo

Orrr get a bluetooth mouse
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DroidHam said:
Orrr get a bluetooth mouse
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True. Which I have, the USB mouse was just to show it works.

Nice to see you here too sleeplessninja!
Followed your tut, gonna do my update, I can't wait for my OTG cable from china to arrive, its almost half way but I can't wait any longer! thanks dude. Off to flashing some updates.
EDIT:
Finished installing the update, all fine and dandy!! tried the camera with the xoom, F-awesome! kinda slow but thats what you get off 18Mpix pics, tried a mouse, kb, all worked perfect...

DroidHam said:
Orrr get a bluetooth mouse
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Can't use bluetooth for flash drives or the ps3 and xbox game controllers (or the other ones the 3.1 update lets you use) XD
I think I'll try this guide when I get home tonight.

sleeplessninja said:
So if you are like me. Waiting a week for your OTG cable to come to your doorstep is not an option. Especially if I can make one with existing cords and equipment I have laying around. If soldering happens to be one of your skills then this is the guide for you.
This is what you need.
Micro USB Cable … Really you need the Micro USB Head
Female USB Cable Head … Pulled mine out of an old computer
USB Cable … to connect the two heads … I used the cable from the Micro USB
Solder Kit … connect the Heads to cords
But this video puts everything in context and you also can see how the mouse works on 3.1
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I haven't watched the video yet, but couldn't you also just use a USB extension cable instead of a separate usb cable and female usb port? Using an extension cable instead you could just replace the male end with the male micro usb and use heat shrink to make it more aesthetically pleasing.

Congrats to OP for the DIY job. My preferred method would be not to cut up the cable, but by shorting pin 4 to pin 5 directly at the shell. This is easiest if all 5 pins are present (sometimes either pin 4 or 5 is missing), as you can simply bridge the two pins with a bit of solder, and quickly apply heat to the connector shell to melt it in place. If one of the pins is missing, then things get a bit more difficult.
The solder bridge wouldn't last for too many insertions, but it should be more than good enough until the real host cable gets to you.

Made the cable well kinda i used a adapter to convert male to female should this still work or does it need to go straight to female?

brilliant guide, used a different style on mine but this guide is solid gold, thanks very much

Great post, i used your method with good results
Probably more expensive than an OTG adapter, yet I found a supplier of micro usb plugs with solder tags, more useful perhaps in a DIY dock?
http://ntcdistributing.com/products/usb-connectors.htm?gclid=CNnGtN-U7K0CFZQgfAodLQvL5g

machina77 said:
Great post, i used your method with good results
Probably more expensive than an OTG adapter, yet I found a supplier of micro usb plugs with solder tags, more useful perhaps in a DIY dock?
http://ntcdistributing.com/products/usb-connectors.htm?gclid=CNnGtN-U7K0CFZQgfAodLQvL5g
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if you have the bits lying around then its very useful. If your having to buy the components then its cheaper to buy the cable. Like many of others on here, i have thousands of usb cables so was easy for me.

Using mice and USB keyboards on Note

The GNote has the ability to act as a USB host, which allows one to attach a flash drive directly to the Note as external storage.
Can we expect devs on the forum to develop USB drivers so we might use other peripherals such as keyboards and mice on the GNote?
I come from a Notion Ink Adam tablet which runs Froyo and was able to work with plug and play USB keyboards and mice.
Would be a very nice feature to hafe on the GNote.
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I don't have the NOTE yet, but on my present device I can attach a USB Keyboard directly to it and it works. I don't need any driver.
Did you test it before opening this thread?
Please confirm
Remark: And same for mouse!

My USB keyboard works fine
Tried several mice and one worked, most didn't (not sure the model name of the one that did, it as a Logitech, will be back in the store later this week and confirm).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYlfuNIGQsw bluetooth mouse works too

Yep BT keyboard mouse work also, amongst other things:

using usb mouse on note.
so you guys are saying that one can use a usb mouse on the note. i guess first you need an adapator or an usb mouse with a micro plug, then just plug and go.

I tested out my razer orochi BT mouse and it worked fine. Don't have any use for it yet until I get a small BT keyboard I can use.

Hi Pere,
To be honest. I read a review which stated that in practice with the OTG USB adapter only flashdrives and externally powered hard drives seemed to work and that the drivers for keyboards and mice would be needed for them to work.
This did not stop me from ordering the adapter, which still has to be delivered. Will obviously test myself once it arrives.
Would be delighted if one can plug in any USB keyboard.
Thanks for clearing it up.
Pere said:
I don't have the NOTE yet, but on my present device I can attach a USB Keyboard directly to it and it works. I don't need any driver.
Did you test it before opening this thread?
Please confirm
Remark: And same for mouse!
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litening said:
Hi Pere,
To be honest. I read a review which stated that in practice with the OTG USB adapter only flashdrives and externally powered hard drives seemed to work and that the drivers for keyboards and mice would be needed for them to work.
This did not stop me from ordering the adapter, which still has to be delivered. Will obviously test myself once it arrives.
Would be delighted if one can plug in any USB keyboard.
Thanks for clearing it up.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk
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That's the GSMarena review and they are quite incorrect. My USB keyboard works perfectly, as did the USB mouse I tried instore. You will of course need a USB OTG adapter.

NZtechfreak said:
Yep BT keyboard mouse work also, amongst other things:
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Anyone know what that gaming controller is called and where to get from thx.

NZtechfreak said:
That's the GSMarena review and they are quite incorrect. My USB keyboard works perfectly, as did the USB mouse I tried instore. You will of course need a USB OTG adapter.
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Nice!! Thank you.
Two more questions, one of them for people using not standard English keyboard ( French, Spanish and so on...) does the keys layout meet with the written characters? I mean: symbols as ;/"? are in different keys? or does they match with the written ones?
The second question or test: Can we use a Host USB to connect together both keyboard and mouse simultaneously to the note!?
Who will be the first in test?
Thanks in advance

Good question! I would like if one could answer that as well.
I guess it would require a OTG usb cable + USB hub. Does the Note support for a USB hube? I mean, would the USB host in the Note allow that?
Also, if it works with an USB hub, then I guess you would be able to both output screen to hdmi, charge and use USB keyboard/mouse at the same time?

An Italian coleague has already answered the USB hub question with this video: And yes, we can!
Regarding the simultaneous connection of mouse, keyboard and HDMI would be great but I'm afraid that there are technical reasons to doubt that it's possible...
What about the special signs question? Any idea?

NZtechfreak said:
Yep BT keyboard mouse work also, amongst other things:
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I am super curious about what showed after 4:00 is that windows or some theme looks like windows?
If Note can operate windows that would be wonderful!

NZtechfreak said:
You will of course need a USB OTG adapter.
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Could somebody explain what exactly is a 'USB OTG Cable' ?
Is it just a cable with a male micro usb plug at one end, and female std. USB plug at the other end ?
Or it needs some magic electronic add-on inside ?
Thanx in advance

All PS\2 keyboards and mouses works great too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440077

If you use a USB keyboard, does that mean you can't connect it to a monitor as well? You need a bluetooth keyboard to do NZtechfreak's setup, correct?

[Q] Is is possible to use a mouse with CM7.2?

Exactly what the title says. I was wanting to connect a mouse to my Nook to make using Mini vMac MUCH easier to use.

Yep!
Yeah, absolutely. Download Nook Tweaks from the market, enable usb host from there, plug in a micro-usb to usb-female connector and you're good to go. I run a small usb branch with keyboard and mouse from in using this setup.
As to Bluetooth, I think there are some compatible mice, check this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=990854

Thanks! Now I just need to get a cable. Do I need to get one of the OTG cables, or will just any cable work?

Googie2149 said:
Thanks! Now I just need to get a cable. Do I need to get one of the OTG cables, or will just any cable work?
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I think any cable will work, I just used an adapter and ordinary cable. But you may need to use a hub. I had to to make my flash drive work.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk

I'm pretty sure a Bluetooth mouse will also work (within the Nooks short range)
Sent from space

Yeah BT mouse/kb work, no need with the hassle of hub and what not.

Does someone feel like testing Mini vMac with a mouse for me before I go out and buy a bluetooth mouse or find a cable?