im having trouble locating the nandroid folder i searched around and it said its in the root directory but i dont see it can anyone help me? i already partition my sd card thanks
It's just called 'nandroid' in the root of your sd (fat patition), and contains several sub folders. If it's not there, it ain't there. If you partitioned after making a backup all files on your sd will be gone because they were formatted during the process.
the nandroid folder isnt in the root directory and im able to see it in the recovery screen and use it to restore
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solved if other people are using clockwork for backup its under clockworkmod then backup
Hi,
I've got Xoom 3.2 and I wanted to perform a backup. Clockwork 4.0.0.4 is what it says is the latest. I also have an Ext SD.
I did a backup as I usually do it from recovery, but it took too long... I reboot and I saw that I was running out of space, already 2.5GB.
My questions are:
- Is it trying to backup the entire Internal SD card?? That is about 30GB of data! I have a Nexus one and I am used to it just backing up that system to external SD? How can I do the backup on xoom without it backing up my Media and music and the big game data?
- Is there a way to make it back up to the External SD card instead of internal?
Will performing a WIPE wipe only system, or will it also wipe the Internal SD?
Thanks,
ssss25 said:
Hi,
I've got Xoom 3.2 and I wanted to perform a backup. Clockwork 4.0.0.4 is what it says is the latest. I also have an Ext SD.
I did a backup as I usually do it from recovery, but it took too long... I reboot and I saw that I was running out of space, already 2.5GB.
My questions are:
- Is it trying to backup the entire Internal SD card?? That is about 30GB of data! I have a Nexus one and I am used to it just backing up that system to external SD? How can I do the backup on xoom without it backing up my Media and music and the big game data?
- Is there a way to make it back up to the External SD card instead of internal?
Will performing a WIPE wipe only system, or will it also wipe the Internal SD?
Thanks,
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Yes, that version only sees the internal "sdcard" and will try to make a nandroid of it. You really need to install/reinstall the solarnz R4c Version 3.2.0.0 which was made specifically for the Xoom or at least the Rogue recovery which is based on v 4 but is also customised for the Xoom. As it is, you will not be able to flash from your internal sdcard either.
See, newer isn't always better.
Thanks a lot for the info. I tried to get 3.2.0.0 but when I went to Rom Manager, and looked under the other versions, there was no 3.2.0.0. I guess I have to download from some website and install?
So, say I go and I install 3.2.0.0.
It will see the External, I don't see any setting to specify where backups should go, will 3.2.0.0 aautomatically backup to external sd?
How about what gets backed up from Internal? Id on't want it all backed up!
Thanks,
So, I used 3.2.0.0 and backup went a lot better. Thanks it backed up to my external. The size is 2.5gb out of an internal sd of about 20gb.
I just need to know what it backed up from my internal sd and what it didn't?
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One more thing rom manager now only sees the backups on the internal.. so I have to restore from recovery since backs are stored on external.
Just a bit screwed up this whole thing
Both recovery and from manager should have options to let user specify where to back and restore.
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I actually stopped using ROM Manager for that reason.
CWM recovery backs up your system image. To further back up apps and their associated data, use Titanium Backup.
And doing a restore from the recovery menu is correct. You can use ROM Manager to get into recovery as long as you don't get tricked into "updating" to another version of cwm recovery.
You could also fool clockwork to thinking it its latest version flashed. This way you can still use rom manager if you choose and still have the latest modded custom recovery.
1. Open Superuser and "Forget" ROM Manager.
2. Open ROM Manager, and Flash ClockworkMod Recovery.
3. After it downloads, it'll ask for superuser. Uncheck "Remember," and Deny superuser access.
4. Go to /sdcard/clockworkmod/download/download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/, and rename the file that just downloaded to [whateverItIs].img.real. (The next step will be easier if you copy the filename first.)
5. Copy the x. x. x. x to this location & rename it to whatever the new ROM Manager download was called.
6. Open ROM Manager, and Flash ClockworkMod Recovery again.
7. This time, Allow superuser.
Hi!
So I'm running civato's FLEXREAPER-R6 ICS 4.0.3 ROM on my Iconia A500 after using timmyDean's "root-3.2.1-V4.7z" method to root my stock HC 3.2.1 ROM. I had ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.3 (rev 1.3.4 by thor2002ro) and was unable to do a full Nandroid backup so I upgraded to the latest ClockworkMod Recovery v5.5.0.x (rev 1.7 by thor2002ro) but I'm still having the same issue.
When I try to backup data I get the error "Error making a backup image of /data!" and then when I look at the sdcard in \clockworkmod\backup\YYYY-MM-DD.HH.MM.SS I see "data.ext4.tar" and the size is 4,294,967,296 bytes), which is exactly the 4GB filesize limit on a FAT32 partition. Looking inside the data.ext4.tar file, I see data/app and all the .APK installer files for apps installed on my Iconia plus a few .ZIP files as well. ES File Explorer won't show me how big /data/app is but DiskUsage says it's 4.7GB. From what I'm reading Android needs a copy of all the APK user-installed app installation files of in /data/app so that it can restore the default data/configuration when requested (under Settings/Apps/Manage Apps/Delete Data & Cache). So...how can I get a successful Nandroid backup if I have more than 4GB of apps installed? Can the data portion be broken up into <4GB chunks? Or can Nandroid/Recovery be updated to support exFAT or NTFS? Or would it be safe to exclude /data/app from the backups?
Since I've been unable to do the Recovery/Nandroid backup of "data", I've been doing a custom backup of everything except for data and then backing up all my installed apps and settings from inside the OS with Titanium Backup. But with this method, a catastrophic failure would still require me to use Recovery to restore the OS and then use Titanium to restore app my apps.
What's the solution?
You can try doing several backups, in other words, do a nandroid backup of /data separate from the other back ups of /system /boot /recovery and other paritions. Then when you have to restore, first restore the backup with your system partitions and then restore your data partition afterwards. You are probably backing up to many things to have a nandroid file that large anyway. When you do a full data wipe it does not wipe the data on the internal sd card only the data on the data partition.
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You can try doing several backups, in other words, do a nandroid backup of /data separate from the other back ups of /system /boot /recovery and other paritions. Then when you have to restore, first restore the backup with your system partitions and then restore your data partition afterwards. You are probably backing up to many things to have a nandroid file that large anyway. When you do a full data wipe it does not wipe the data on the internal sd card only the data on the data partition.
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Hey cruise350! I have an Evo 3D as well. I'm running Virus's "Eternity 3.0 r193 ROM" with the Stock theme on my Evo 3D, how about you? Anyway, I have tried doing separate Nandroid backups. I can backup everything but "data" and that will complete just fine. I don't see any way to break up the "data" backup into multiple smaller backups. But as I said, if I backup everything else with Nandroid, I feel pretty confident that I can restore all my apps/data with Titanium.
Would it be safe to try to move /data/app temporarily somewhere else (such as /mnt/sdcard), do the Nandroid data backup, and then move it back?
It seems to me that doing full wipe (system, data, cache, dalvik cache, superwipe, etc) would wipe out /data and everything underneath (including /data/apps) but that it would get recreated automatically when I restore everything with TB, right?
The way to get rid of that problem once and for all is to format your SD card as EXT4... You won't be able to read it with non-Linux (or BSD) OSes after that, though. Mounting via USB should still work, as this doesn't access the SD filesystem directly...
I would try changing recoveries then, I am using RA recovery and it has a compress backup feature. It takes about 45 minutes to do a nandroid when compressing but it cuts the size of the backup significantly. I bet RA will solve your problem though. And, I am running Steelrom on my Evo 3d. It's really stable, has some good tweaks, and the battery life is incredible.
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The way to get rid of that problem once and for all is to format your SD card as EXT4... You won't be able to read it with non-Linux (or BSD) OSes after that, though. Mounting via USB should still work, as this doesn't access the SD filesystem directly...
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Thanks, haag498. That's an interesting idea. So any Android OS or Recovery would be able to read/write to an EXT4-fomatted SD card? It would work in both my Iconia A500 and my Evo 3D both in Recovery and inside the OS? That might be a good option. I see that EXT4 supports very large filesizes so that problem would go away. What tool would you recommend for formatting the SD card with that filesystem? Can it be done from inside Android?
Not being able to mount the filesystem natively in Windows might present occasional inconveniences but it shouldn't be a major problem as long as the Android devices can present the storage as USB Mass Storage mode. That being said, I have some issues with the Iconia when accessing the storage over USB. Namely, when I try to move files and folder off the device or delete them from Windows when attached via USB, the task often won't complete. I've worked around the problem by just doing internal moves, deletes and renames from inside Android (using ASTRO or ES File Explorer) and, if necessary, mounting the SD card directly in my Windows PC, which won't be possible anymore.
cruise350 said:
I would try changing recoveries then, I am using RA recovery and it has a compress backup feature. It takes about 45 minutes to do a nandroid when compressing but it cuts the size of the backup significantly. I bet RA will solve your problem though. And, I am running Steelrom on my Evo 3d. It's really stable, has some good tweaks, and the battery life is incredible.
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Okay...so if I wanted to install RA Recovery instead, would I flash that from inside CMR? I have "Acer Recovery Installer" installed as well but I believe the version of CMR I'm using is newer than what that tool would have been able to install. So, what's the procedure to switch to RA from CMR? Any other features of RA that you prefer?
JesseAaronSafir said:
Okay...so if I wanted to install RA Recovery instead, would I flash that from inside CMR? I have "Acer Recovery Installer" installed as well but I believe the version of CMR I'm using is newer than what that tool would have been able to install. So, what's the procedure to switch to RA from CMR? Any other features of RA that you prefer?
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You can flash from within CWM. If you look in the RA threads, you will find some flashable versions. I use 3.15, as I have been lazy to update to 3.16.
No wipes needed. Just install zip from SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22392691&postcount=104
JesseAaronSafir said:
Thanks, haag498. That's an interesting idea. So any Android OS or Recovery would be able to read/write to an EXT4-fomatted SD card?
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They should, if they're using a reasonably up-to-date Linux kernel, as EXT4 is built in for these... If you want to be absolutely sure, use EXT2/3 (they're pretty much identical from a user point of view), which still support large files and all, but are somewhat slower (and they can't use more than 4TB, which shouldn't be an issue anyway...).
JesseAaronSafir said:
It would work in both my Iconia A500 and my Evo 3D both in Recovery and inside the OS?
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Read above.
JesseAaronSafir said:
That might be a good option. I see that EXT4 supports very large filesizes so that problem would go away. What tool would you recommend for formatting the SD card with that filesystem? Can it be done from inside Android?
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Formatting the SD card can be done from any Linux live CD (Ubuntu, Knoppix, ...) or from within Android (if you're rooted and have a chroot Linux) using parted (or cfdisk) or some GUI tool like gparted... Internally, they'll all use mkfs.ext4, which is anything but user-friendly, though...
JesseAaronSafir said:
Not being able to mount the filesystem natively in Windows might present occasional inconveniences but it shouldn't be a major problem as long as the Android devices can present the storage as USB Mass Storage mode. That being said, I have some issues with the Iconia when accessing the storage over USB. Namely, when I try to move files and folder off the device or delete them from Windows when attached via USB, the task often won't complete. I've worked around the problem by just doing internal moves, deletes and renames from inside Android (using ASTRO or ES File Explorer) and, if necessary, mounting the SD card directly in my Windows PC, which won't be possible anymore.
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That's actually a known problem... I usually just use a NAS for data exchange, as it has plenty of space and good speed, even on WiFi. Another way to do it would be a USB drive (2.5'' hdds tend to need more power for spin-up than they get from the internal port, though). Also, as I use Linux on all my computers, mounting EXT4 partitions is no problem for me ...
Hi,
I know cwm is NOT supposed to backup the sdcard but just /system, /data and a few other small partitions.
On my nexus 7 I have hardly any data, apps plus data are under 1G but a single cwm backup (I have just one backup) takes 2.8GB.
Its as though its backing up the sdcard as well as the size of the backup seems to be about right for an entire backup including the sdcard.
I wonder if the fact /data and /sdcard are actually accessing the same real storage (/sdcard sits on internal storage) is confusing cwm.
Has anyone else noticed this.
If its not the case then why is the backup so large.
BTW I know im not doing anything stupid like miscalculating the amount of data and apps etc.
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I think the problem was I still had old backup blobs from deleted cwm backups. Looks like just deleting the backup via cwm doesn't delete the blobs, I had to chose the option to free nandroid space.
However I've switched to twrp now anyway as I don't like the way cwm uses these blobs. I find it much better to have each backup completely separate and then I can copy an individual backup off the system and store elsewhere.
I also find thousands of blobs/files slows things down when using apps to manage the internal sdcard filesystem
Hi!
From what I have read it is already possible to do so. ADB offers some commands to backup your whole internal disk directly to PC. Also there is a way to do so via fastboot. Thats both very nice but I would like to go one step further. I put many trust in backups like cwm or twrp. currently I'm using TWRP on my N4. The tools works just fine!!
BUT. I have around 13.8 GB of capacity overall! One backup made by TWRP takes about 1.5 GB. But thats only because the compression works this well. To get it the backup process started I need to free about 2.8 GB. Thats over 30% of my storage. Another point is that to have a proper backup I have to copy the backup to another storage eg my PC. So I was thinking:
Why can't we made this superb backups (compatible to CWM and TWRP) directly to PC?
Please understand this thread as a question where I can find this app that will do this for me or whom I will have to pay for it to make it a reality! :laugh:
you can do a full Backup with this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171332