[Q] Nandroid Backup like CWM or TWRP directly to PC - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi!
From what I have read it is already possible to do so. ADB offers some commands to backup your whole internal disk directly to PC. Also there is a way to do so via fastboot. Thats both very nice but I would like to go one step further. I put many trust in backups like cwm or twrp. currently I'm using TWRP on my N4. The tools works just fine!!
BUT. I have around 13.8 GB of capacity overall! One backup made by TWRP takes about 1.5 GB. But thats only because the compression works this well. To get it the backup process started I need to free about 2.8 GB. Thats over 30% of my storage. Another point is that to have a proper backup I have to copy the backup to another storage eg my PC. So I was thinking:
Why can't we made this superb backups (compatible to CWM and TWRP) directly to PC?
Please understand this thread as a question where I can find this app that will do this for me or whom I will have to pay for it to make it a reality! :laugh:

you can do a full Backup with this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171332

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nandroid backup question

Since the nandroid backup is almost 2 gigs and i bought the 8gig(5.9 gig free)........that leaves me 3 gigs free. Is there anyway to move my nandroid backup to my cpu or a flash drive off of stickmount and be able to access it there with cwm thus leaving more internal storage? I am rooted
Two gigs for this thing? Nandroid on my phone is less than 500mb. Might want to confirm someone's size for this device.
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cpu?? I'm pretty sure that came out wrong...
But yes, you can put the backup on an external drive. All you have to do is copy the clockwordmod/backup folder onto wherever you want to store it whether it be on a flash drive, your computer etc. However note that if your device ever screws up e.g. not booting properly and your USB port is malfunctioning or broken (rare but on the off chance), you'll have a very bad time trying to make it work again without a nandroid on the device.
The new version of CWM (6.0.0.6) has changed radically, & copying the backup directory to an external device WILL NOT be a complete nandroid backup.
With 6.0.0.6 Koush introduced file deduplication into CWM to dramatically reduce the disk usage of multiple nandroid backups. Take a look at the Google+ post for more details.

Question About Titanium Backup And Nexus 7.

Okay, I have yet to get mine, but will in a day or two (the Nexus 7) lol. I wanted to know if I installed TiBuPro on my N7, and needed to do a full wipe/factory reset or whatever when I am installing a custom ROM, will the TiBuPro backup be deleted since the backups will be stored on the internal storage since there is no external SD slot? I use TiBuPro on my One V just fine since it has an external SD card, but was worried if I follow steps to flashing custom ROM's and such, since the storage is internal, and wipes wipe everything if I will lose my backups?
That's a damn good question Freak, to be on the safe side I would just do the backup and then drag & drop the sdcard/TitanuimBackup folder to a computer.
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Once you understand the way nexus 7 works with storage you will understand more. Im not best person to explain. so .
As long as you do not format or delete /data/media your ti backup goo manager files roms and everything else there will still remain.. The cwm/ twrp skip erasing these directories (fake sd card so to speak) . I have installed many roms with few issues..
You can also use otg storage. Go into ti backup and set the default backup folder on a otg device.. same with twrp backup files.. Just plug in the device before you run either of the programs . with twrp to use otg for me anyway.. you have to boot into recovery . plug in the device reboot recovery and it will show up...
SO Simple answer is yes you can use TI BACKUP Just fine .. just know what to not format in recovery..

[Q] Clockworkmod backup without flashing recovery

I recently learned how to boot into a customer recovery without actually flashing it to the phone. Of course this is the method I used to root my 9505G.
I got the bright idea to also make a full backup from in CWM recovery (which is not actually flashed to my phone). The available space on my SDCard went down by nearly 2GB, so I know the backup was made. However, using rooted file explorers I cannot find the backup files anywhere (I've looked in all the common locations suggested in other threads)! I've even used storage analyzers which show you how much space is used by each folder and none of them are accounting for this extra space.
Any ideas?
So you want to make a CWM backup without flashing CWM ? Any other brilliant ideas why you're at it ? (That should give you the answer to your question).

[Q] TWRP Storage - 6.23 GB...?

I am new to flashing and have noticed that TWRP takes up 6.23 GB of space. Do people normally move TWRP over to a backup hard drive, delete it, or is it important to keep it on my phone?
Thanks,
Its probably backups. Look in the TWRP folder with a root explorer and see what it is.
You should always have a stock backup. Keep that on computer in case something happens. But have at least one good backup on device. If its 6GB its probably 2-4 backups.

[Q] Help a (desperate) newbie (how to back-up rom)

Hello all,
Firstly, please bear with me if my question seems simple... I have flashed a couple of roms without problems, have recovered a bricked mobile and have generally messed around without too many disasters - unless you count the many hours spent setting-up my mobile after re-flashing... and this is the point... I will give a background and then questions will follow...
background:
I have finally found the rom for me (Albe 95 v2 btw - highly recommended, the guy did a truly grand job) and since I reckon that sooner or later I will become "restless" again and want to re-flash or mess around, I would like to make a back-up of my complete system... not app-by-app but do the backup in such a way that I get a single .zip file at the end of it all, and no matter how badly I might mess things up further down the road I can always return to my current status with in a flash (sorry for the poor pun)...
should be easy, right? well I've tried following some simple steps with clockwork mod (basically trying some of the functions in the backup directory, where there is an option that says something that amounts to "make a zip") and just now for the second time I've had a failure... after seemingly working and copying files for some 5-10 minutes it suddenly stops, says there was an error, and that's it... time to exit cwm and reboot... and that's when the real problems begin...
upon exiting CWM, i get a weird message (something about maybe losing root, and having to fix it before exiting)... after exiting (I selected the option to "fix it" btw) upon reboot the mobile works fine (rooted and all) except one detail - the sim card doesn't receive signal anymore... this happened just the same way first time round and I want to know what I´m doing wrong.. I did read some guides about making a backup and they seem easy enough when I read them, but then this happens...
so question #1 - can somebody point me to a newbie-friendly, step-by-step, idiot-proof guide for how to reach my holy grail in the form of a zip file?
...all this brings me to question #2:
after installing the new rom, there is some 3Gb left of memory... after a day or so of using, theres about 700mb left... I formatted the SD card and wanted clockworkmod to backup directly onto the sd_card... is there an option for this? there is simply no way I will ever be able to free up space on the internal memory alone...
question #3 - where does all that space disappear??? and speaking of space disappearing, after clockworkmod did its partial backup, the internal storage was reduced from some 700mb to under 300... now even if the phone is strictly speaking working, I cannot so much as update an application, or download a new one... unfortunately this is where my ignorance shows, as I understand that the internal storage is split in two sections, but I have no idea how (if?) I can access the "main" one, where CWM is presumably writing its files and which I guess by now is chock-full... what can I do here? where does CWM hide its backups (and yes, I´ve searched around and read somewhere that its supposed to be in a directory such as Data/Media/clockworckmod, but I cannot find it... and I can see the hidden files...
in fact, out of 9Gb of internal storage, the directories & fiels I can see amount to a pitiful 1,3Gb, and yet if I check space available in system settings I get 300 Gb!!! that means I have a good 7,4 Gb of storage unaccounted for! that's not even considering that total space of internal card is 9gb, not the 16gb that it should be... in other words, I can account for almost exactly 10% of my internal storage... what the hell????? either my internal memory is made of dark matter or I need a charitable colleague on this board to explain to me what is going on... or maybe suggest a link that you learned from back in the day when you were a newbie...
that's it... for now... sorry for the extremely long post, but I am frustrated, as I have to flash this bugger, again...
Thank you in advance for any help, info, and advice...
P.
1. Not in a zip file. The backup feature in ClockworkMod and all other custom recoveries is what we call a nandroid backup. They generally are backed up and restored using the appropriate functions, and not via a flashable zip file.
2. On the Galaxy S4, the internal storage is labeled "sdcard0". Thus ClockworkMod apparently thinks it's a MicroSD card. Looking at another device running a current version of CWM, it doesn't appear that you can select the location. If you want to be sure the backup is made on the MicroSD card, change your recovery to TWRP 2.8.4.0. You can select where the backup goes on that recovery.
3. You likely made multiple backups with ClockworkMod. An odd thing, at least the the copy of ClockworkMod on my tablet, is that if you delete backups, the space itself is still allocated to the backups that no longer exist. To free up this space, in the backup and restore menu is an option to "free unused backup data". Horribly misnamed, if you select this option you should see your space return. In addition, keep in mind that Android stores hidden files and folders on the internal storage. If you download large games, you may find yourself running out of space as the game stores parts of itself on the internal storage in a hidden directory.
Once you get your space back, switch your recovery to TWRP so you can select the MicroSD card.
Thanks for your answer strephon.... but now i need to understand the next steps and to avoid a re-re-reinstall, i would like to ask what version of TWRP should i use?
I have Rashr to help me get this recovery app but i have a list of options to choos from and none seems correct...
if i run Phone Info, it tells me the following:
- device type: jflte
- Product name: kltexx
...but on rashr none of the TWRP versions seem applicable... the closest would be jfltexx (ver 2.8.5.0 )... there is also a ver 2.8.4.0 but also in this case only for jfltexx... is this what i'm after?
Please note that CWM and Philz both have jflte versions... maybe i should try Philz? Does it let me do nandroid backup on my Sd card?
Again, thanks in advance
You probably will have better luck using the TWRP Manager app, but the version you want is 2.8.4.0, for jfltexx. Philz is a derivative of ClockworkMod, but I don't know if it has the same limitations.
Thank you man... got twrp and ran the backup. Looks like just what i was after...
Much obliged ?
...now that i've managed to get the backup done i would like to make sure about one point :
This will work if i mess install a new rom and for whatever reason i want to revert to my backed up rom... but what if i brick my mobile?
Thats happened to me before and i downloaded a rom which I flashed using Odin and with the phone in download mode... is there a way i can merge these files in a zip (or whatever format )that i can then flash with Odin?
If you brick and need Odin, you won't be able to use these files in it. However, if you have to install a ROM via Odin, you can afterward install the recovery and restore from the nandroid backup. The backup would then restore the S4 back to the state it was in when the backup was made.
...but is there no way of doing that in one step only? I mean just as someone prepared that rom to be flashed via odin can i not create one myself? There's gotta be a way. ...
platypus78 said:
...but is there no way of doing that in one step only? I mean just as someone prepared that rom to be flashed via odin can i not create one myself? There's gotta be a way. ...
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What you want is not possible.
You won't brick your phone, it's almost impossible.
If a situation like you describe emerges, then just flash a custom recovery trough Odin and restore the backup.
Damn that sucks ?
But at least its cleared so thanks for that...

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