When I picked it up it would only boot to a screen with a triangle with an exclamation mark in it and it says Software Update Failed! Please try again. He said he was trying to load Android but didn't know what he was doing and every time he pulls the battery that's as far as it gets. I figured for $20 maybe I can get it into bootloader and do something with it. I got it home and did a battery pull, put it back in and held the power button and volume down and nothing. Now it won't even turn on at all. When I picked it up he did a battery pull and turned it on to the Software Failed screen but now nothing. I've left the battery out for an hour, had it plugged in to 2 different wall chargers and every USB port on my computer and nothing. I even stripped a USB cable and held the wires to the + - terminals on the battery for 15 minutes and nothing. I'm hoping the battery is just shot or not taking any charge and a new one might at least get me to the bootloader.
I suggest you make a Gold Card to flash it with. This is like the one almost assured flash of Windows Mobile to your HD2. a Gold Card will force a flash sometimes. If you do not know what a Gold Card is just Google Gold Card for HTC HD2.
If you can flash Windows Mobile back to the HD2 you can then try Android again on it if you want.
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When I picked it up it would only boot to a screen with a triangle with an exclamation mark in it and it says Software Update Failed! Please try again. He said he was trying to load Android but didn't know what he was doing and every time he pulls the battery that's as far as it gets. I figured for $20 maybe I can get it into bootloader and do something with it. I got it home and did a battery pull, put it back in and held the power button and volume down and nothing. Now it won't even turn on at all. When I picked it up he did a battery pull and turned it on to the Software Failed screen but now nothing. I've left the battery out for an hour, had it plugged in to 2 different wall chargers and every USB port on my computer and nothing. I even stripped a USB cable and held the wires to the + - terminals on the battery for 15 minutes and nothing. I'm hoping the battery is just shot or not taking any charge and a new one might at least get me to the bootloader.
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20$ !!! HOW ?????
Ill Buy it from you as is for $50 Australian dollars plus postage. The Australian dollar is worth like 50 gadjillion US dollars at the moment so its a great deal for both of us.
hungry81 said:
Ill Buy it from you as is for $50 Australian dollars plus postage. The Australian dollar is worth like 50 gadjillion US dollars at the moment so its a great deal for both of us.
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Because at the moment it's a $20 paperweight. Black screen, no charging light, won't even go to the software failed screen. I don't know anyone else with another HD2 I can use to check the battery or to use to charge it if it is dead. If worse comes to worse I'll send it off to HTC.
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I suggest you make a Gold Card to flash it with. This is like the one almost assured flash of Windows Mobile to your HD2. a Gold Card will force a flash sometimes. If you do not know what a Gold Card is just Google Gold Card for HTC HD2.
If you can flash Windows Mobile back to the HD2 you can then try Android again on it if you want.
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I read the tutorial a couple times and I'm guessing the phone would have to have power to do this. This puppy is dead at the moment. For all I know it was Raptured during the night.
check the battery pins carefully for bent pins, and also, just to check, when you did the bare usb cable charging, you put neg to neg, live to live, right?(black to - red to +, , + being the outer one)
Id probably try a phone shop, see if they'l let you put a battery in for a few seconds, just to confirm if its the battery that has died, and if theyre really nice maybe theyl let you try your battery in their hd2.
If it IS the battery and you get it working, its dead simple, no goldcard or anything like that needed,, , the exclamation screen you got is from flashing an incorrect (wrong carrier/region) stock rom via sd card whilst hspl was installed, (its been removed now, by the start of teh sd card flash, thats why it gave rom update fail) and simply entering bootloader and reflashing using a rom correct for your serial will fix that.
(or indeed entering bootloader, applying hspl then flashing your chosen cooked rom and radio, , , or radio and magldr, whatever you want to do. Its a scary screen the exclamation one, but its one of the easiest to get past)
Yeah a phone shop is probably a good idea. There's a T-Mobile pretty close. I had an HD2 I sold last year that I had put some different ROMs on and Android so I figured if this one was stuck at the software failed screen it would be a pretty easy fix. I used it in the Yucatan for the GSM signal plus it doubles as a pretty good camera and bought this one because I'm going back. But reading the threads about it just being dead and not booting to anything makes me think it might be trashed. If it is I'm only out $20. If it's to pricey for HTC to fix it there are a couple on craigslist cheap with broken LCD's. Might try piecing 2 together.
unfortunately looks like you've bricked the unit, you can actually resurect it by using JTAG software/hardware http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XroEPU4qyuM
rudy173 said:
unfortunately looks like you've bricked the unit, you can actually resurect it by using JTAG software/hardware http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XroEPU4qyuM
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That's what I was thinking. But I didn't do it, all I did was pull the battery. If it is it's only $20
Its not the famous tmous radio brick, unless you didnt mention something you did in your first post.
the only way it gets that kind of brick is flashing a radio from a regular HD2, the fact that the flash failed (exclamation screen) and you say you didnt try to flash anything else would point to a different problem. If the radio HAD flashed, the phone wouldnt have booted even to the excl screen.
You see, when you flash a stock rom via sd card, if hspl is installed it will allow the flash to start, but step 1 is first changing the spl(removing hspl) then the phone restarts into the new spl, and flashing continues. But because hspl is no longer there, cid checks fail and the flashing stops, so no radio gets flashed, so no radio brick.
radio bricks happen when you flash a non tmous stock rom via Goldcard or via usb whilst hspl is installed, because over USB, hspl is NOT removed at step 1 so the flashing is allowed to continue, the radio gets flashed, the phone dies.
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Its not the famous tmous radio brick, unless you didnt mention something you did in your first post.
the only way it gets that kind of brick is flashing a radio from a regular HD2, the fact that the flash failed (exclamation screen) and you say you didnt try to flash anything else would point to a different problem. If the radio HAD flashed, the phone wouldnt have booted even to the excl screen.
You see, when you flash a stock rom via sd card, if hspl is installed it will allow the flash to start, but step 1 is first changing the spl(removing hspl) then the phone restarts into the new spl, and flashing continues. But because hspl is no longer there, cid checks fail and the flashing stops, so no radio gets flashed, so no radio brick.
radio bricks happen when you flash a non tmous stock rom via Goldcard or via usb whilst hspl is installed, because over USB, hspl is NOT removed at step 1 so the flashing is allowed to continue, the radio gets flashed, the phone dies.
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You see the problem is I don't know what this guy did to it. All he said was he tried to load Android. When I picked it up in would power on and stop at the Software Failed screen. After I pulled the battery it does absolutely nothing.
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You see the problem is I don't know what this guy did to it. All he said was he tried to load Android. When I picked it up in would power on and stop at the Software Failed screen. After I pulled the battery it does absolutely nothing.
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exactly, which is why im suspecting battery/battery pins/power issue, because it DID come on for you, meaning it isnt a radio brick, and the pins are very easily bent when the battery is pulled, one slight twist to the angle of rotation and the casing on the battery around the flat connectors catches the pins on the way up and out.
If he was installing android, he most likely installed magldr, which prevents teh battery from charging when the phone is off, hence me wanting to double check you were doing the USB bare wire charger correctly, because a totally dead battery won't charge in the phone, if magldr is there. And so, back to testing if its teh battery, thats what you need to confirm before you can move on,,,,, is the battery alive but flat? ten seconds with a known good battery, or a HD2 running winmo (can charge when off with winmo installed) will answer it for you.
Yes I made sure it was hooked up correctly. I held the wires on the terminals for what I thought would be long enough. Maybe the battery is junk? Thanks for the pointers though. I do appreciate the help.
In my first post last night I took it you were having a issue with getting a ROM to flash. I see now your issue is not this so I do apologize.
Samsamuel has givin you some great advice. Have you tried connecting your wall charger to the HD2 and then power it on? This is how I would get my HD2 to boot back up so I could charge if I accidentally let the battery drain all the way down and I was using MAGLDR. (Not a problem anymore thanks to cLK)
Now seeing as you do not have a ROM to boot into this will not charge your battery but just maybe prove the HD2 is not dead. I agree with Samamuel about it not being bricked, I think you just have battery/power issues right now, namely the lack of power.
Go to this thread that just sprung up last Tuesday in the HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A and General forum. Read the first post as it gives a method of charging your battery when dead using MAGLDR. I have not personally tested this cause I no longer use MAGLDR. I can not promise you it works but it is worth a shot. Let us know if this worked for you and post in the thread I linked as well if it works. That thread needs a confirmation post.
I tried 2 different wall chargers and just tried to tip in the thread you suggested. Nothing. Even tried a PowerMat for 3 hours.
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I tried 2 different wall chargers and just tried to tip in the thread you suggested. Nothing. Even tried a PowerMat for 3 hours.
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Does this conclude that the battery is dead ??? and you might need a new battery ?
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Does this conclude that the battery is dead ??? and you might need a new battery ?
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It might be.
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It might be.
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Then go for it
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So I went out and got a TMOUS HD2. Fantastic. Love it more than the Iphone for the typical reasons. So I'm at the point where its time to really make it mine, custom rom, a few tweaks, a few preferred apps, etc...
Here's what goes down.
1. I try to install HSPL. I fail, not yet knowing there is a difference between the TMOUS and typical flavor machine. Luckily I don't brick, learn my lesson, find the right HSPL.
2. Install a TMOUS friendly HSPL. Cotulla shows in the boot loader and all that jazz. Radio is of the 2.08 flavor which should be compatible with sutom roms, so with that 100% successful I should be good to go.
3. Huh. Rom page says I should TASK29 before I install. Ok. TASK29 seems like a cleanout and reformat of the room, so that makes sense, though I only seem to half understand it. What's the least hassle way to handle that? Well, since I don't want to change my radio it looks like the "ShaDrac repack" is the way to go. I follow the download link, watch the youtube video, and set to do the deed.
4. This is where I should be saying "and then I went into the bootloader and installed the TMOUS friendly custom rom." I didn't get this far. TASK29 went to 100% and rebooted the phone, only it hung on the T-Mobile splash screen (that part that says "stick together!" in obnoxious pink). I figure it just needs a good old fashioned reset like in the instructions. I pull the battery and put it back in, getting the same result. I'm a bit worried, but I have my rom ready on an SD card, toss that in and proceed to try to go to the boot loader (which should always come up since HSPL is installed, right?) Well, that time when I tried to boot up I got nothing, not even the ill fated splash screen. This thing looks bricked, doesn't respond AT ALL, even after I let it sit for 24 hours to let the internal battery die and hope it'll go to at least the bootloader. Tried hard reset, tried linking it up to the computer (WMDC says there is no device there), tried volume down+power. Nothing it just sits there like a rock.
I went over my steps carefully, read numerous posts, and as far as I can see I did nothing wrong. (I completely avoided anything involving the radio and the dreaded number "51") Please correct me if I'm effed up somewhere. I've flashed devices before and never bricked, even though this was my first HD2 attempt, so I'm not completely unknowing in the subject.
If anyone has a solution I'd love to hear it. If anyone has any idea WTF happened, I'd love to hear that as well, even if it means I just made a $300 mistake. At this point I am officially stumped like a chump.
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So I went out and got a TMOUS HD2. Fantastic. Love it more than the Iphone for the typical reasons. So I'm at the point where its time to really make it mine, custom rom, a few tweaks, a few preferred apps, etc...
Here's what goes down.
1. I try to install HSPL. I fail, not yet knowing there is a difference between the TMOUS and typical flavor machine. Luckily I don't brick, learn my lesson, find the right HSPL.
2. Install a TMOUS friendly HSPL. Cotulla shows in the boot loader and all that jazz. Radio is of the 2.08 flavor which should be compatible with sutom roms, so with that 100% successful I should be good to go.
3. Huh. Rom page says I should TASK29 before I install. Ok. TASK29 seems like a cleanout and reformat of the room, so that makes sense, though I only seem to half understand it. What's the least hassle way to handle that? Well, since I don't want to change my radio it looks like the "ShaDrac repack" is the way to go. I follow the download link, watch the youtube video, and set to do the deed.
4. This is where I should be saying "and then I went into the bootloader and installed the TMOUS friendly custom rom." I didn't get this far. TASK29 went to 100% and rebooted the phone, only it hung on the T-Mobile splash screen (that part that says "stick together!" in obnoxious pink). I figure it just needs a good old fashioned reset like in the instructions. I pull the battery and put it back in, getting the same result. I'm a bit worried, but I have my rom ready on an SD card, toss that in and proceed to try to go to the boot loader (which should always come up since HSPL is installed, right?) Well, that time when I tried to boot up I got nothing, not even the ill fated splash screen. This thing looks bricked, doesn't respond AT ALL, even after I let it sit for 24 hours to let the internal battery die and hope it'll go to at least the bootloader. Tried hard reset, tried linking it up to the computer (WMDC says there is no device there), tried volume down+power. Nothing it just sits there like a rock.
I went over my steps carefully, read numerous posts, and as far as I can see I did nothing wrong. (I completely avoided anything involving the radio and the dreaded number "51") Please correct me if I'm effed up somewhere. I've flashed devices before and never bricked, even though this was my first HD2 attempt, so I'm not completely unknowing in the subject.
If anyone has a solution I'd love to hear it. If anyone has any idea WTF happened, I'd love to hear that as well, even if it means I just made a $300 mistake. At this point I am officially stumped like a chump.
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If I'm following you then what you need to do is put the phone in bootloader manually. Pull the battery and hold down the "down volumn" button. This should bring up the tri-colored screen(bootloader). Connect your USB cable wait for it to show "USB" then Flash away...I hope this helps
Im sorry...Just read your whole post and it seems you've already done what I suggested..
well if the battery is dead, it isnt going to turn on. now that the battery has depleted completely, let the phone charge again. once it does try to go into bootloader and flash ROM from sdcard or via USB.
One more thing...
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention before.
I've set the thing charging for about 3 hours and still no response. Furthermore, when I have the charge cable in I don't get the LED that lights up during a charge does not turn on. It just sits there unresponsive.
check your battery pins. plus you haven't said what rom was on your sd card.
oh and in step four, after task 29, it's supposed to hang at the boot screen, there's no rom on the phone, task 29 just erased it.
you should have held vol down as soon as it hit 100% and gone into boot loader. if you mis time it, pop the battery, hold vol down and tap power to manually enter boot loader then connect to usb and flash your rom.
The rom I was trying to flash to was the latest OZrom for the 1024. Seems like the most stable cooked rom that I've been able to find for the TMOUS HD2.
Mostly I just want a WM 6.5.5 rom with CHT and the full functionality of the HD2. WM 6.5 stock just isn't quite finger friendly enough for me (though HTC Sense helps a LOT) and I want to have some more of the customization that CHT offers.
Holy crab in a burning biodegradable bag on my doorstep.
It was the battery pins not lining up properly. Why is it always the dumbest most simple things that defeat me when I'm handling something high tech?
did you get it flashed okay? I'm gonna attempt my first flash tomorrow for my hd2 and I was gonna do the task 29 also, pretty much with the same steps you listed. When I saw your post it worried me for a sec
SUCCESS!!!
I have successfully flashed OZrom onto my HD2 and have saved myself from having to spend another $300 in shame.
Had to flash from SD card since for some reason WMDC 6.1 was not detecting the HD2 on bootload screen, but it still worked.
Hopefully that'll take some of the fear out of this process.
Do your research right and things go (almost) according to plan.
dont worry
Do not worry man same **** happen to me.... I had gunk on the batt pins felt like an idiot lol
If you have any other issues with the phone not charging check out my post on the pins for the battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701939
There has been an issue with the contacts being bent and then they don't contact the battery and wouldn't charge it.
Well, I'd like to thank you all for your help with my issue. My HD2 seems to be rocking nicely. Battery life seems to be shortened a bit, but I've also probably been tooling around with it too much, else it might just be I chose a power hungry rom. I'll also keep my eye on that batter contact issue.
Once again. Thank you.
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Well, I'd like to thank you all for your help with my issue. My HD2 seems to be rocking nicely. Battery life seems to be shortened a bit, but I've also probably been tooling around with it too much, else it might just be I chose a power hungry rom. I'll also keep my eye on that batter contact issue.
Once again. Thank you.
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Do this test with different radios.
Flash a radio and let it charge all the way and write the time you unplug it and let it die by it self and then write the time.
Flash another radio and do the same thing.
While doing these test try to use the phone with the same settings as the previous tests and close to the same usage.
This way you can find the best radio for the area you live in which helps battery life overall.
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Had to flash from SD card since for some reason WMDC 6.1 was not detecting the HD2 on bootload screen, but it still worked.
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no it won't recognize it.it doesn't need to.
when the phone is in boot loader connect usb and watch the phone screen for the word serial to change to usb. when it says usb you can flash. wmdc will never see a phone in boot loader.
when instructions say "connect to active sync " they don't mean connect to the active sync/wmdc software they just mean connect to usb. its an added confusion that there is no need for.
I don't know if anyone got this problem before.
Today I flashed few different radio before.
But this time i tried to flash from 2.15.50 to 2.09.51.03
I got 2.09.51 from here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654706 )
after completed flashed then i disconnected the usb but for some reason the phone can't even turned it on.
I removed the battery and wait couple of mins but got no luck.
Put it on A/c charge, but still no luck, no led light
Battery was above 90% before i tried to flash with new radio.
I used Android as my fulltime os and it runs very smooth.
I've got T-mobile us hd2.
Im running Miri
If any1 could help me on this topic would be great.
Well for now no phone for me
yep, its dead, flash a radio with 51 in teh version to a tmous and it dies.
One of teh genuine (and there are few) times when 'brick' is teh correct word.
JTAG or warranty are your options.
yeah same thing happend to me, i took it to the store they tried diff charger batter etc. Ended up sending mine in and they sent me one within a few days. Since it cant come on there is no way for them to tell HSPL has been installed so if i were i would just return it as warranty
Does it atleast go in to flash mode ?
remove battery, replace battery and starting it up while holding volume down + power botton,
if you can get it that far, you can push in a new radio.
Aevum said:
Does it atleast go in to flash mode ?
remove battery, replace battery and starting it up while holding volume down + power botton,
if you can get it that far, you can push in a new radio.
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Yep, it worked for me anyway when I flashed my handset with the radio 51
I think its not possible to get the screen to even turn on.
I know that my battery is still in very good condition.
I did some research, once bricked its gone beside JTAG or warranty are your options as mentioned above.
Too bad i got this over ebay US and im in Australia...
But i still love my hd2, i'll purchase a used one in the future.
But good news, i got new Htc desire hd today, damn this is fast and smooth
bad thing is i can't even hear the speaker
Last night, I noticed that ROM Manager had an update in the Android market
(512mb LEO with Typhoon Cyanogenmod). I hit the update button, and walked away for a while while my phone did its thing, as usual.
I returned about 15 minutes after and noticed that my HD2 was off. I could not, however, turn it back on.
Removing and replacing the battery did not help. The phone wouldn't charge via the wall socket.
My linux PC will not detect it (I checked my dmesg log when plugging in and turning on)
I left the battery out overnight, plugged the phone into the wall, put the battery inside. No luck.
I checked the battery voltage with a multimeter, and it reads about 3.9v.
I don't think it's the battery. I think my HD2 is somehow bricked! Is there anything I can do?
It's not under warranty any more, but if I send it for repair, do you think they will deny it (because it has Android on it)?
Enlighten me with your wisdom, XDA! I don't want to say goodbye to this amazing device!
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Last night, I noticed that ROM Manager had an update in the Android market
(512mb LEO with Typhoon Cyanogenmod). I hit the update button, and walked away for a while while my phone did its thing, as usual.
I returned about 15 minutes after and noticed that my HD2 was off. I could not, however, turn it back on.
Removing and replacing the battery did not help. The phone wouldn't charge via the wall socket.
My linux PC will not detect it (I checked my dmesg log when plugging in and turning on)
I left the battery out overnight, plugged the phone into the wall, put the battery inside. No luck.
I checked the battery voltage with a multimeter, and it reads about 3.9v.
I don't think it's the battery. I think my HD2 is somehow bricked! Is there anything I can do?
It's not under warranty any more, but if I send it for repair, do you think they will deny it (because it has Android on it).
Enlighten me with your wisdom, XDA! I don't want to say goodbye to this amazing device!
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Did you try holding the volume down button and turning on the phone....
It should take you to the tri colored screen...
If you get there the phone is not bricked
casemandan said:
Did you try holding the volume down button and turning on the phone....
It should take you to the tri colored screen...
If you get there the phone is not bricked
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Yes I have tried that. Alas, nothing...
Do you recon they will fix it even if Android was on it?
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Yes I have tried that. Alas, nothing...
Do you recon they will fix it even if Android was on it?
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It is a little late for me to mention this, seeing as you have sent your HD2 in for repairs all ready. But your power/end button may have stopped working, if you still had the your HD2 you could try pressing the reset button by the SD card slot and see if the device booted up then. But that is not an option now.
If all you did was update ROM Manager via the Android Market. Then it should not have bricked your HD2 in any shape form or fashion. Further more it should not have caused your HD2 to turn off either. I mean when you are running NAND Android on the HD2 you are pretty safe from bricking your HD2 because both MAGLDR, cLK, and the actual Android ROM is flashed to the ROM partition of the NAND memory and never touches the real SPL bootloader partition of the HD2.
Plus did you check your battery pins before sending it in? One might have been bent slightly. Or it could have been dirty battery terminals not allowing a good connection.
Point is I very much highly doubt your HD2 was bricked. You probably just missed judged your situation is all. As far as will they fix it? If you are willing to pay the fee they charge then yes.
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It is a little late for me to mention this, seeing as you have sent your HD2 in for repairs all ready. But your power/end button may have stopped working, if you still had the your HD2 you could try pressing the reset button by the SD card slot and see if the device booted up then. But that is not an option now.
If all you did was update ROM Manager via the Android Market. Then it should not have bricked your HD2 in any shape form or fashion. Further more it should not have caused your HD2 to turn off either. I mean when you are running NAND Android on the HD2 you are pretty safe from bricking your HD2 because both MAGLDR, cLK, and the actual Android ROM is flashed to the ROM partition of the NAND memory and never touches the real SPL bootloader partition of the HD2.
Plus did you check your battery pins before sending it in? One might have been bent slightly. Or it could have been dirty battery terminals not allowing a good connection.
Point is I very much highly doubt your HD2 was bricked. You probably just missed judged your situation is all. As far as will they fix it? If you are willing to pay the fee they charge then yes.
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Hah. I don't know where you assumed that I have already sent it in. I'm the kind of person who tried to fix it myself first
Pressing the reset button doesn't do anything. I tried holding it down while inserting the battery too, and nothing,
The battery pins do not appear to be bent or dirty. I gently pushed them upright, and down, and scraped the surface gently in case there was any layers of dirt, still nothing.
I have a sibling with an HD2. I can test the batteries later.
Do you think somehow, the NAND can be worn from multiple reads/writes until it dies? It is flash memory after all, and that last write from the update could have pushed it...
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Hah. I don't know where you assumed that I have already sent it in. I'm the kind of person who tried to fix it myself first
Pressing the reset button doesn't do anything. I tried holding it down while inserting the battery too, and nothing,
The battery pins do not appear to be bent or dirty. I gently pushed them upright, and down, and scraped the surface gently in case there was any layers of dirt, still nothing.
I have a sibling with an HD2. I can test the batteries later.
Do you think somehow, the NAND can be worn from multiple reads/writes until it dies? It is flash memory after all, and that last write from the update could have pushed it...
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Hmmm sorry I thought you had sent it in for repair already. Guess I miss read that, my bad man.
Yes NAND chips are rated for only a number of flashes. But that number is very high. I can not remember the exact numbers right now but hey that is what google is for right? But you did not flash a ROM you just uninstalled a app and then installed the updated version of that app. But then again I guess when you install or uninstall a app it is performing a some what similar action. Still though flashing a ROM is flashing a ROM, and installing a app is installing a app. One is a a lot different than the other.
My money is with your battery being bad. I mean like I said updating your ROM Manager should not have caused your HD2 to turn off at all. Try your sibling's battery and report back, I really hope that fixes it for you.
I haven't actually installed any Android ROM myself. But I did lots of WinMo ROM updates. What strikes me is that you installed a new ROM through the Android Market. Is that a normal procedure to upgrade an Android ROM on the HD2?
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Hmmm sorry I thought you had sent it in for repair already. Guess I miss read that, my bad man.
Yes NAND chips are rated for only a number of flashes. But that number is very high. I can not remember the exact numbers right now but hey that is what google is for right? But you did not flash a ROM you just uninstalled a app and then installed the updated version of that app. But then again I guess when you install or uninstall a app it is performing a some what similar action. Still though flashing a ROM is flashing a ROM, and installing a app is installing a app. One is a a lot different than the other.
My money is with your battery being bad. I mean like I said updating your ROM Manager should not have caused your HD2 to turn off at all. Try your sibling's battery and report back, I really hope that fixes it for you.
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Hmm... I have an interesting development.
I tried my sibling's battery, and it didn't help, but what I did notice is that the phone vibrates slightly when I turn it on (as it should), but it does so very weakly. So weakly that I need to put my ear against the phone to hear it.
I don't think it's the LCD, because the charging light still doesn't work.
It probably needs a new mobo.
Any suggestions before I take it in for repair?
Cenobite_ said:
I haven't actually installed any Android ROM myself. But I did lots of WinMo ROM updates. What strikes me is that you installed a new ROM through the Android Market. Is that a normal procedure to upgrade an Android ROM on the HD2?
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No, I didn't install a ROM on the market. It's an app called ROM Manager
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Hmm... I have an interesting development.
I tried my sibling's battery, and it didn't help, but what I did notice is that the phone vibrates slightly when I turn it on (as it should), but it does so very weakly. So weakly that I need to put my ear against the phone to hear it.
I don't think it's the LCD, because the charging light still doesn't work.
It probably needs a new mobo.
Any suggestions before I take it in for repair?
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Yeah I agree with you it sort of sounds like something in the main board has malfunctioned. My guess is the processor or the NAND chip one. I would just send it in for repair if I was you. Maybe your HD2 just finally died, I know it sucks. But if you are willing to pay for the repair then you should be back up and running in no time. I am assuming you plan to send it to HTC for repair right? If for some reason they do give you a hassle about Android being on your HD2 and will not repair it. Then contact me I might know somewhere you can get a new main board put in it.
I got my HD2 back today.
Apparently it's not worth fixing...
I also got robbed today... Just my luck.
I cannot afford any other phones atm, but what do u think would make a good candidate replacement for the future? I don't think any other phone has the same kind of mod-ability and support here at XDA, but I would be delighted if you could prove me wrong.
My friend has a Galaxy S2, which is cool, but it doesn't have notification LED :/
Is there much hacking/dev on the GS2?
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HD2 on ebay and it reads this description :
when you start up the phone, it stops at the first screen and freezes... or sometimes stays on black screen.
so it could be a simple fix for repairs, or use for parts.
im winning the bid so now my question is. Is this a hardware problem or like i can restore it with a new rom and see if it works.
It could be either. If you do get it, my suggestion would be to install cLk or MaGLDR to bypass the bootloader - that would be the most likely thing that would be broken if it freezes. If they do work, then your phone should be fine.
Schweet man! Congrats I bet you picked it up at a decent price too.
First get the hd2 toolkit ( this this is invaluable when it comes to getting this baby where she needs to be!)
I would task 29 and start her out from scratch! Good luck !!!
Here's the link to the HD2 toolkit.
I bought a HD2 off ebay in 09 for $80 that was in mint condition with the same issues listed. Now i've learned a lot since then but at the time i could not get it working no matter what i did. I called HTC who repairded it for free since it was still under warranty. With that said you may run into some problems fixing this but I feel if you get the phone around $150 and under and you dont get it working you should still be able to resell it and get most if not all of your money back. There has always been a demand for this model phone so i would go ahead and buy it.
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It could be either. If you do get it, my suggestion would be to install cLk or MaGLDR to bypass the bootloader - that would be the most likely thing that would be broken if it freezes. If they do work, then your phone should be fine.
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that depends a lot on whats wrong, those do not bypass the bootloader as such, they extend it, if the SPL is buggered then its buggered unless you can replace it.
your issue could be a number of things, it might just need a reflash, if at all possible get it in to the original bootloader, and SD card flash an original stock ROM for that device, that will overwrite everything.
Course if you cant get the bootloader working then unless you know someone that can connect it up and reflash it your looking at sending it away
another problem could be the RAM, or NAND, several times folk have run in to problems with these getting buggered up, if so your screwed.
On a side note I would ask about screen bleeding, on second hard devices you can sometimes get a lot of leakage through the screen from the back light making lighter blobs on the screen, this is very noticeable on light or white background, dark backgrounds doesn't really show to bad but its worth asking for... good luck!
Hey thanks guys for the reply. I picked it up for 65$ it's coming today free shipping and everything. I had a HD2 before but sold it for a iPhone 4 (Horrible Decision) So I picked up another one. The thing is with this HD2 it has no Rom, Radio information in the bottom left at boot up. I'm assuming it's Task29'd right.
Once you got it, we'll be happy to help
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Alright guys. Today I received my HD2 in the mail and I had one once before in the past. I bought this on Ebay claimed it was broken because it was stuck on the stick together screen I got it for 65$ and now I turned it on it was stuck there. I went to the bootloader it was SPL 2.08 and now I removed the battery but I can't get any response to turn on anymore. When I plug in a charger theres no orange led. I checked the back on the phone it looked like it was opened up before because the void label is all smashed but visible. Is it bricked? The seller said it would sometimes go stick together or stay black. I'm trying my best to turn it back on atleast to bootloader because I have no ****ing working USB to PC cable. and keep it like that till I get one. Any help?
Okay i just got it to turn on but I didn't get the chance to enter the bootloader just Stick Together. I have no clue if it's just random or the battery is going poop. I will try to get it to respond at least so I can enter the bootloader and find a working usb cable. It doesn't even say "Serial" when i enter it.
IT TOOK ME FREAKING FOREVER. But. I got it working on the bootloader with "Serial" SPL 2.10. I'm hopping this thing can stay on long enough to go get a working usb charger.
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IT TOOK ME FREAKING FOREVER. But. I got it working on the bootloader with "Serial" SPL 2.10. I'm hopping this thing can stay on long enough to go get a working usb charger.
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do you have anyPC- USB cables or USB mains charger.
it sounds like your first problem is the battery is dead, get it in bootloader and leave it plugged in, it takes ages but it will charge up assuming your charger is give it more than 200mA, failing that, get an external charger, to be honest with the current state of the HD2 and WP7 battery usage its worth while getting a charger an second battery any way!
Alright guys. Today I received my HD2 in the mail and I had one once before in the past. I bought this on Ebay claimed it was broken because it was stuck on the stick together screen I got it for 65$ and now I turned it on it was stuck there. I went to the bootloader it was SPL 2.08 and now I removed the battery but I can't get any response to turn on anymore. When I plug in a charger theres no orange led. I checked the back on the phone it looked like it was opened up before because the void label is all smashed but visible. Is it bricked? The seller said it would sometimes go stick together or stay black. I'm trying my best to turn it back on atleast to bootloader because I have no ****ing working USB to PC cable. and keep it like that till I get one. Any help?
Okay i just got it to turn on but I didn't get the chance to enter the bootloader just Stick Together. I have no clue if it's just random or the battery is going poop. I will try to get it to respond at least so I can enter the bootloader and find a working usb cable.
first, the not turning on when it was on a moment before - check the battery pins, they bend easily, and can sometimes crack.
there are a number of faults that can cause hanging on splashscreen, and also that can cause inability to enter bootloader, some hardware, some software.
Im assuming its a tmous, in which case hunt down the link to the tmous rom on the htc website (start at t-mobile.com, i think its still linked there)
get the latest rom and then all you can do is try to get into bootloader and try flashing.
If you get it to start turning on but cant get into bootloader with voldown, ive seen threads where disconnecting the bottom hard buttons has helped, and also threads where a faulty vol-down was to blame and shorting the pins manually was the solution.
But there's no orange led light when I plug in a charger. I've looked at topics and it has 2.10 SPL and no rom or radio it's been task29'd
samsamuel said:
first, the not turning on when it was on a moment before - check the battery pins, they bend easily, and can sometimes crack.
there are a number of faults that can cause hanging on splashscreen, and also that can cause inability to enter bootloader, some hardware, some software.
Im assuming its a tmous, in which case hunt down the link to the tmous rom on the htc website (start at t-mobile.com, i think its still linked there)
get the latest rom and then all you can do is try to get into bootloader and try flashing.
If you get it to start turning on but cant get into bootloader with voldown, ive seen threads where disconnecting the bottom hard buttons has helped, and also threads where a faulty vol-down was to blame and shorting the pins manually was the solution.
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Nvm, I got the it to charge a little. It's been booting up everytime i turn it on now. I'm just wanting for my usb cable to work because right now it's not working on any phone i have with me other than the HD2 so it's the cable. It works fine charging but when i try to use my usb cable on my pc with ANY phone it doesn't seem to work. Gotta find one.
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or radio
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it does have a radio, you cant not have one. task 29 doesn't remove it. the radio it has will already be fine for running android, its not something you need worry about until you have a working phone.
Okay. For some weird reason it vibrates 7 times indicating a hardware failure. So that's it. I wasted 65$ that's awesome. Before i can even try to flash a new rom or anything. Ugh.
I got it to work on a freezer and it works till it gets slightly warm or hot.
blahblah13233 said:
I got it to work on a freezer and it works till it gets slightly warm or hot.
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Bad motherboard, needs to be replaced.
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Bad motherboard, needs to be replaced.
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As stevedebi stated you will need a new motherboard. Unfortunately its not cheep even if you know what your doing and was able to do the labor yourself. I will say that all is not lost though because you could re-sell it on ebay and get your money back. Even in its current state it should sell for around $80-$120. Personally i would list it at $100 obo. You got it so cheep that eventhough you are unable to fix it for a low price you should still be able to get all of your money back.