Where to start...
One of my phone lines on my account is my old 6700. The bluetooth and my car (2007 bmw 335i) worked once while the phone was stock, then never worked again. Then i upgraded to wm6 for the apache. The bluetooth and my car worked well for a while, then all of a sudden one day stopped working. I hated the trouble that it used to cause my, so i added a 2nd line on my account for my 'car' phone. I went with a motorola krzr after i was told motorola bluetooth stacks have no problems with most cars bluetooth stacks. I also had a samsung upstage before the krzr that had no problem syncing with my car, but would never send the correct information to my car i.e. when a call was coming in, it wasnt the correct caller displayed. The krzr worked perfect. Anyways, I smashed my krzr (after the lil nephew soaked it in saliva and the buttons stopped working) and was 'forced' to buy the new touch phone. Since purchasing the touch, i cant get it to sync with my car I had it ONE time come up in my list of bluetooth devices, but when i tried to connect, it would fail, then i would refresh and it would be gone. Please somebody help me. I was hoping that i could get rid of my 2nd line and finally have 1 phone! Is there an update for the bluetooth stack? is there a registry hack? is there anything?
Thanks in advance for anybody that can help me...
-deck
You need to download a cab file from Jetware Mobile. Just do a google search for it. Works on alot of PPC phones
well i tried it, and still no luck
this is the ONLY problem with the touch i have encountered so far.
-dedk
I had the similiar problem. I was trying to send the file via bluetooth from Touch to Motoming. The devices were already paired. But I couldn't send file via bluetooth. When I selected file and tried to send it from explorer it blinked the device selection screen and I returned back to explorer.
To send the files via bluetooth I had to install resco explorer. And from resco explorer I was able to select the device, and send files via bluetooth.
Bluetooth in Touch is very buggy.
Firstly, I love this phone, it almost does exactly what I want, Ok Windows Mobile 6.x would be good but I can without that, what I can't live with is the Bluetooth problem I have.
My device will not connect to the integrated bluetooth within my Skoda Octavia - it pairs up OK, but won't transfer the phonebook, and then after 5-10mins the connection is dropped! While it's connect it'll receive calls OK. The BT in the car is identified as SKODA_UHV, which I understand is the same of other VAG (Volkswagen Audi Group) cars, albeit with a different name.
It's been back to HP three times, the last time it came back with different BT version software installed, but that hasn't helped.
The car works fine with my old Nokia phone (and the HTC S710), the BT kit installed is the latest Skoda version....
Beer tokens await anyone who can provide a fix.....
do you see "hand free" on this connection? more things iI can think of is that lots of problems are due to lack of memory (device not card) pleas look at other thread on this issue it dose happen with new users ,one more thing is that you can set the connection to be not scure go over the settings
Yes the icon appears - everything is fine and works well for around 10mins, the the connection is broken.
The same happens if the unit is cold booted (thus ensuring maximum memory) and regardless of the security settings.
look for "ms-bt-stock" on xda ,you can also use google like "xda ms-bt..." see if one f the cabs will do the trick but from that day on you will not have your current bt screen (you can uninstall orHR) backup your device before installing so you can hr and restore ,good luck
Hi,
I have a HTC Touch 3G:
The phone is recognised (the name), it seems to pair ok (had to put in a 16-digit PIN), but then the car (Passat 2008) kit cannot connect to the phone for some reason.
Is there any solution for this subject?
Regards,
SpiderXman
I believe, you have to turn on the rSAP-Profile in the BT section of your Jade.
The VW vehicles have a BT-Unit, that only works with mobiles, that have the rSAP (remote SIM Access-Profile) enabled.
You know, how to enable it ?
Start-->Settings--> Bluetooth --> SIM Access
Hope this helps.
Greetings from Cologne,
Arniebirdy
Thanks for your help,
However I have done this procedure without success.
SpiderXman
Emanuel Ferreira said:
Hi,
I have a HTC Touch 3G:
The phone is recognised (the name), it seems to pair ok (had to put in a 16-digit PIN), but then the car (Passat 2008) kit cannot connect to the phone for some reason.
Is there any solution for this subject?
Regards,
SpiderXman
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Hi/ I have the same problem with BMW X5 2004. paring is OK, but it dosn't work. it looks like connect and then disconnect (on phone screen headset icon appear and disappear). SIM access anable but no sucses
With touch 3452 it was not a problem. HTC support team told me that it is a conflict with BT kit on BMW. Now I see not only.... What to do???????
For most of the things discused here no one has paid.
For the things people have paided for go to the garage, i know i would!
Tom Lenferink said:
For most of the things discused here no one has paid.
For the things people have paided for go to the garage, i know i would!
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You know you can, but how to resolve this issue ???? I think any payment can't, can it?
Hi,
using Jade's BT SAP with BMW 3 series (E91).
Works like a charm, except one issue: names in BMW phonebook appear sorted by first name.
In Jade its sorted - as it should be - by last names.
No solution found until now.
Anybody an idea?
Thanks
@ConsultantR
Try this for older BT Kits: http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
ConsultantR said:
Hi/ I have the same problem with BMW X5 2004. paring is OK, but it dosn't work. it looks like connect and then disconnect (on phone screen headset icon appear and disappear). SIM access anable but no sucses
With touch 3452 it was not a problem. HTC support team told me that it is a conflict with BT kit on BMW. Now I see not only.... What to do???????
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Hi there,
I have a similar problem with my Volvo S40 2009. My Jade and the car connects each other but every 15-30 seconds the connection cuts off. It is very annoying while talking to someone, just in the middle of the conversation the radio starts to run again, since Jade loses connection to the car.
Is this some kind of configuration or setup issue? Any help?
I had this on / off problem too.
It was a fault in the phonebook contacts (some signs are obviouly not allowed in this bluetooth stuff (e.g. / or ")
So i moved all contacts to a folder, that wasn´t synchronised and that worked fine. Afterwards i added this removed contacts back step by step and was able to identify the problematic ones.
The easy way instead is to set up the phonebook to SIM only and copy the most used contacts to the SIM
Regards Quirlsen
Quirlsen said:
I had this on / off problem too.
It was a fault in the phonebook contacts (some signs are obviouly not allowed in this bluetooth stuff (e.g. / or ")
So i moved all contacts to a folder, that wasn´t synchronised and that worked fine. Afterwards i added this removed contacts back step by step and was able to identify the problematic ones.
The easy way instead is to set up the phonebook to SIM only and copy the most used contacts to the SIM
Regards Quirlsen
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Thanks for the hint Quirlsen. Is it only the Name and Surname lines, which I have to correct? Otherwise it would be impossible, since I also have the Windows Live(Msn Messenger) contacts in the Contact List.
By the way is there a way to remove those Msn Messenger Contacts from the phonebook? They just popped up after I logged in once to Windows Live.
To be honest, i don´t know.
I´ve exported my whole contact list to csv, cleand it up with Control+H and imported it back (i had to add all picvtures afterwards
Your Win Live prob you could solve by defining different phonebooks for sync with phone and other stuff.
Hi @ all,
just got my HD2 with german ROM and one of the first things I tried out was to get a connection to my car (Audi A6) through the remote sim access profile (SAP, rSAP) - but it didn't work...
Does someone use the HD2 in his car using the sim access profile, as available in Audi or VW cars?
I have
- Audi A6 Avant (model 03/2008)
- using the "Audi rSAP Adaptor" in the car cradle, located in the arm rest
- everything in the HD2 is activated for Sim Access
Result:
HD2 and car are connecting, I have to put the 16 digit security code in my phone, but after that the SAP mode does not start, and so I have no access to my phonebook. It seems that I only have a "normal" bluetooth handsfree connection, because the HD2 still shows that he is booked into the mobile network - and when rSAP is active, the phone itself disconnects from the network and "falls asleep".
I restarted my HD2 several times, also the rSAP-Adapter by turning ignition of the car off and on until the adaptor switches off, deleting the connections, creating new connections, but nothing helps...
Any comments or experiences from other users are highliy appreciated
Finally, I have to remark that my HTC Snap, which I just upgraded to WM 6.5, works very good im my car with the rSAP - no problems at all, I get all my contacts in the MMI.
Thanks in advance,
Jolig
Just got my HD2 and am having the same problem.
I'm trying to connect with a 2009MY Skoda Superb with the rSAP bluetooth kit.
This works fine with my E71 and my HTC Touch Cruise.
I've been told that there used to be an issue with OBEX authentication on previous versions of Windows Mobile. Apparently, it was important to disable this authentication. However, I can't see the checkbox in the version of WM that the HD2 is running.
Does anyone know what registry entry this checkbox might have been changing?
Thanks,
Bagpuss.
Thanks Bagpuss,
who gave you this information?
I hope someone can solve this problem....but I fear we have to wait until we have more HD2 - owners
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I just have read something about the "Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool" where someone with similar problems activated OBEX (but it was an older Win Mobile device, and some months ago) - perhaps this could help?
But I just installed version 3.3 of this tool, but it doesn't work on my HD2...
Hi Jolig,
Check out this thread:
http://briskoda.net/superb-ii/howto...us-rns510-using-non-compatible-mobile/131709/
on Briskoda.net.
One of the guys there had lots of problems getting his WM phone to work, and posted the fruits of his labours.
From what I can tell, we can't use the CAB file he mentions, as rSAP is built into the OS version that the HD2 uses.
I've actually logged this issue with HTC, and am awaiting their response. My company is considering the HD2 as our next standard handset, and we won't go for it unless the rSAP functionality works with all VW/Audi group cars.
I'll let you know if they get back to me.
Bagpuss.
Thx Bagpuss,
and yes, in my opinion it's a mess that the rSAP is apparently VERY unimportant for most people or manufacturers...otherwise we wouldn't have this trouble....
I will come back too if I should find some news.
Had the same problem, tried lots of stuff but none of my WM devices is able to work with the rSap protocol. Gave up on it and then my Skoda Columbus system was stolen.
Replaced it with a JVC 7000 with detachable front. Disabled the rSap carkit and am now using the JVC BT carkit wich is working great. The problem is in the MS BT stack. It is not supporting the rSap the way it should. Only phones that work flawlessly are Nokia's I'm afraid...
The lack of rSAP support is what made me ignore the iPhone this time around.
I was hoping that the HD2 would be a viable alternative, but sadly, it doesn't look like this is going to be the case.
As I bought it over the phone, then I've got 7 days in which to return it. If I can't get it to work, then I guess I'll be getting an N97 or N97 Mini (which will definitely work). :-(
Bagpuss.
@ Bagpuss,
otherwise, as I wrote, I can recommend trying the small HTC Snap (or also called Maple?).
Ok, this one has no touch screen and also a very small screen - but I can confirm he works with rSAP and is not too expensive. I will keep this one, although I now have the HD2
As to Bagpuss' information concerning the OBEX, I tried the following:
- installed the newest .NET framework version
(that was necessary to get Advanced Config Tool v 3.3 running)
- install Schap's Advanced Config Tool
- in the menu "Bluetooth", I enabled OBEX
- after that the config tool does a soft reset
...still no success....no SAP and no phone book
I also wrote an email to HTC - it's really annoying, having SAP in the phone etc. and nothing works.
I've a Golf VI (RNS510) and it's working very well. Just had to change Bluetooth security settings that by default does not make HD2 visible to other devices. And after partnership was established, I've reverted the settings to "Allow only devices from MyDevices to connect"
Hi Binks821,
Binks821 said:
I've a Golf VI (RNS510) and it's working very well. Just had to change Bluetooth security settings that by default does not make HD2 visible to other devices. And after partnership was established, I've reverted the settings to "Allow only devices from MyDevices to connect"
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Can you confirm if your Golf has the premium bluetooth preparation?
There are two different versions of factory bluetooth kit for the RNS510, one which simply acts as a handsfree device, and the other (premium) which is a complete GSM phone.
It's the premium kit which uses rSAP, and which seems to be incompatible with the HD2.
You can tell if your Golf is using rSAP by checking to see if the signal strength meter on the HD2 shows any bars when connected to the car. If it does, then it's not using rSAP. If you see the signal meter with a little x in the corner, then it is using rSAP.
If you do have rSAP working, then I'd really like to know which firmware version your RNS510 is running, and also which firmware version you have in your HD2.
Thanks,
Bagpuss.
yes I've the premium version with RSAP access, not just handset.
Once partnership is established, it says SIM Access profile in Bluetooth settings, not Handset. And it disables my SIM on the phone, so no strength meter.
I had a Tytn before, and it was working the same way. Just when received my HD2 Monday, it was not working but default settings on the phone make HD2 not visible, So I received a message on the car saying "No compatible phone found". After playing with Bluetooth security settings, it was OK.
And of course I can import SIM contacts.
Be sure to check these settings (Settings tab in Sense, then Menu-> All Settings -> Bluetooth)
- Discoverable: always visible
- Advanced -> Connectivity: Allow all devices to connect, just during setup. After that change to "Allow only devices listed in My Devices to connect"
- Advanced -> SIM Access: be sure that rSAP is enabled
HD2 version info:
- OS: 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
- Manila: 2.5.19202525.0
For the car I have to check once I'll be in.
Hi Binks281,
Thanks for the confirmation.
I've now done some further testing in my car, and managed to have some success.
This is what I did.
In the car:
1) Remove all device pairings from the bluetooth system in the car.
On the HD2:
1) Perform a hard reset.
2) Turn on bluetooth. Make HD2 permanently discoverable.
3) Make sure rSAP is enabled (it is by default).
4) Turn off SIM pin (turns out this isn't necessary, but I wanted to make things simple).
So, at this point, I have the car system with no paired phones, and the HD2 with factory settings and no personal data (contacts etc.). I also made sure there were no contacts on the SIM card.
Back in the car, I perform a device search, and it detects the HD2.
I select the HD2, and the car displays the pairing password (1111 2222 3333 4444).
On the HD2, I enter the password.
I then get a prompt saying that Skoda_rSAP is trying to connect to the remote sim access service. I say allow, and also tick the box to allow all future connections.
After about 10 seconds, the maxidot in the car says 'New SIM card recognised', and prompts me to create a new user profile. I called it 'HTC_HD2'.
After about another 15-20 seconds, the car should extract the SIM details from the phone and the phone name, network and signal bars should appear in the car display.
You can now make calls, but there is no phonebook.
Given what others have said about the phonebook access, I'm pretty sure that this is what was stopping the pairing from working the first time I tried it. I've heard various stories, some which say that the phonebook access only works with SIM card contacts, some which say it only works with OBEX authentication switched off and so on.
If you look at the paired devices screen in the phone, then you can see connections coming into phone. First, you see a connection to the SIM Access profile, followed by a brief connection to the Phone Book Access profile. It was at this point, when accessing the phone book, that my previous attempts to pair failed.
I'm still trying to work out what is causing the problem with the phone, but I have done the following things:
1) Told the car to only sync phone memory contacts. By default, it's set to sync both SIM and phone memory. You can configure this on the car by going to Settings -> Phonebook -> Select Memory, and choosing 'Mobile Phone'.
2) Created four contacts in phone memory, one with only 1 mobile number, one with 2 numbers (mobile and home) and another two with three numbers (mobile, home and work). I've then gone into Settings -> Phonebook -> Upload and sync these across to the car.
So far, this has worked fine and disconnecting and reconnecting to the car works without a hitch.
I'm now going to try syncing a small subset of my contacts with ActiveSync to see if this also works.
If it does, then I'll gradually increase the number until it either works, or fails.
I'll report my progress here.
Bagpuss.
Thanks Bagpuss,
sounds interesting!
I think tomorrow I will try this also:
- remove all paired phones in the car-system
- delete all contacts
- disable SIM Pin
Temporarily I am not sure if I will do a hart reset in the first step because I've already installed so much... When the work fails, I thing I must do it
I will report what happened.
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Ah, come on...TV this evening nothing interesting, wife in bed...I tried it, including hardreset
No success.
Bagpuss, what I detected:
First, you see a connection to the SIM Access profile, followed by a brief connection to the Phone Book Access profile. It was at this point, when accessing the phone book, that my previous attempts to pair failed.
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This connection to the Sim Access Profile I see also, but only for one second, then it dissappears and then the connection "Handsfree" comes up - and this one remains....
I do not know else what to do.
I now reconnected my beloved HTC Snap/Maple, and now I will start installing my apps on the HD2....
Hi Jolig,
Sorry to hear that it didn't work.
By the sounds of it, the Audi system is somewhat different to the VW/Skoda one. From what I can tell, your system also appears to support using phones in handsfree mode (I'm guessing that the iPhone works in your car).
In the VW/Skoda cars, you can either have a car kit that acts as a handsfree device or one that uses rSAP, but not both.
It could just be that the HD2 isn't responding to the rSAP request quickly enough to satisfy the MMI. In that event, it falls back to using handsfree mode.
When it shows 'handsfree' on the HD2, can you use the MMI to make calls?
This whole area seems to be a bit flaky on the HD2, as I still can't work out why mine didn't work when I first tried.
Bagpuss.
Binks821 said:
yes I've the premium version with RSAP access, not just handset.
Once partnership is established, it says SIM Access profile in Bluetooth settings, not Handset. And it disables my SIM on the phone, so no strength meter.
I had a Tytn before, and it was working the same way. Just when received my HD2 Monday, it was not working but default settings on the phone make HD2 not visible, So I received a message on the car saying "No compatible phone found". After playing with Bluetooth security settings, it was OK.
And of course I can import SIM contacts.
Be sure to check these settings (Settings tab in Sense, then Menu-> All Settings -> Bluetooth)
- Discoverable: always visible
- Advanced -> Connectivity: Allow all devices to connect, just during setup. After that change to "Allow only devices listed in My Devices to connect"
- Advanced -> SIM Access: be sure that rSAP is enabled
HD2 version info:
- OS: 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
- Manila: 2.5.19202525.0
For the car I have to check once I'll be in.
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Hello Binks821,
I believe that I have the same hardware situation like you but I can't get my HD2 started on my VW Passat with the Premium FSE. The problem is, that I can go through the whole "finding and connecting process" and can save the PIN but then the Connection gets lost between the HD2 and the PFSE. If seems that the PFSE can't connect to the Network (E-Plus) but why the BT-Connect gets lost in this case.
Maybe you can help me to get it work. Thanks a lot!
Negropo
Hello everybody,
maybe I found a solution that work for every sap-handsfree-set. I tried the hint was given on the german car forum "motor-talk" for the connection problem between a vw pfse and the htc touch diamond with wm 6.1 or 6.5.
The trick is that you have to disconnect the HD2 from the pfse by manual when the car first want's to connect automatically. You have to go to the BT-Setup to the tab where are the connected devices listed. If you click on the "+" right of the name of the device you should be seen the tab "Remote Sim Access" or in german "Sim-Zugriff". When the car connect's to the HD2you have to stop this by pressing disconnect in the right below corner of the HD2 screen. Then the connection is terminated. Now you have to start the connection manual over the menu in your car. In a VW you have to press only "connect" in the MFA. And then the HD2 should connect without problems. I don't know why it works but it does. Maybe there is someone here who can explain it and find another "automatic" solution for this problem.
Regards Norman
Well, I don't have a VW but an Audi with an rSAP-Adaptor in the middle arm rest. I fear this also doesn't work for me.
The problem is that this Tab "Sim Access" only appears for just one second, so I have no chance to make anything whithin this single second....and after disppearing of the tab "sim access" another tab "handsfree" appears - and stays. So it seems my Audi only recognizes a handsfree profile. I don't know why,
Temporarily I am happy that I still have my HTC Snap, which is working very fine with rSAP
@ Negropo, can you tell me in which thread at motor-talk you found that?
Thanks,
Jolig
Hi guys,
rSAP works fine with my Audi A4 BTA. I made the HD2 discoverable for any device and I activated the SIM access in the HD2 BT settings. Then I start searching for Bt device on my Audi BT and initiated the connection with the HD2.After inserting the 16 character pin everything works fine.
By the way ... the connections seems to be very stable. With the Touch Diamond I had from time to time connection interrupts where it was necessary to reset/restart the Touch Diamond again.
Best regards,
Matthias
@ Matthias,
"BTA" means that you have the built-in phone with rSAP, right? Is it a brandnew A4?
Hi
I Currently Have a Galaxy S Running 2.3.3 and a Car (Renault Twingo) With Bluilt in Bluetooth.
When Connecting the Phone to the Bluetooth it asks for PBAP Access , Which I Grant the Access.
From time to time i won't sync my Contacts(I have to Manually Transfer them Accross) , 9/10 I carn't Make/Recivve a Call - When someone rings me it (Phone) will ring - but the bluetooth won't ring/take over.
I am wondering if this is becuase Pbap isn't Fully Supported by the In car Bluetooth??
has anyone come across this problem before and Know how to fix this ?
My dad has the same problem here. Samsung Galaxy S i9000 (android 2.3.3)combined with a Hyundai IX35. Contacts just won't sync. We have even had the cars firmware updated today.
My old HTC HD (Blackstone) does the job without any issues so the issue probably isn't in the car but in the samsung.
If anyone knows how to solve it please tell us (bying a real phone is not the answer i'm looking for )
simplify the sync porcess by setting contacts to "show only those with phone numbers" in phone settings -- this minimizes the amount of contacts the bluetooth attempts to import o the car phone and prevents text, email etc. from your contacts being transfered (which most don't but they do bog down the PBAP process).
I have a Renault Clio GT (C) with i9000 2.3.4 and never had problems.
Only probs I get is when I connect device for the first time and then try to call someone or to get called it doesn't work.
I always activate first bluetooth on my device before I enter my car.
Then car starts and searches for my device and all works perfect:
- contacts
- calls
- music via bt
Just though id update you on the Problem so Far
Problem still Exsists
Renault have replaced the Radio(Brand New) - its running newer Software on the Radio.
The Issues i listed above are still there - i now think its the phone thats causing the issue - does anyone have any modded Bluetooth APK Files that i could try?
I solved for Samsung Xcover (S5690, Android 2.3.6) connection to a carkit on Renault Laguna 3.
Steps used:
1. I root phone;
2. I used ES File Explorer to access system files. In ES File Explorer settings I give root privileges.
3. I installed from Google Play program “Mount / system (rw / ro)” (free).
4. I run Mount/system (rw / ro) and I enabled "mount r/w". He is active several seconds, so it goes quickly to ES File Explorer.
5. I open ES File Explorer: --- / system / app /. I look for Bluetooth.apk and I renamed to bluetooth.apk.bak.
6. File bluetoothpbap ...... . apk does not start at all.
The biggest surprise was that the car recognizes the phone, contacts, media, everything.
I hope to work on other samsung phones (I think it's a general problem).