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TyTN Bluetooth | Random car disconnect

Hi all,
I know there are plenty of threads about the TyTN bluetooth issues, but my questions differs in two ways which I have yet to come across:
I do NOT have M$ VoiceCommander installed (and don't want to install it)
My bluetooth issue relates to my car's handsfree feature - my TyTN randomly connects and disconnects. Apparently Audis, VWs, BMWs, and Acura's all suffer from this this problem.
The situation:
When I start my car, the phone will successfully merge with my TyTN. Approximately 30 to 60 seconds later, the connection will be lost. Shortly after that the connection will re-establish itself, then it will disconnect itself a short period later. This pattern repeats endlessly.
I've tried each of the following Tweak programs but none have helped.
jetwaremobile
Tweak2k
HTweakC
I've heard that there is some kind of registry tweak that will prevent the bluetooth stack from disconnecting from my car's handsfree feature, but after looking for about 2 days now, I can't find it. Can anyone help?
thanks.
jm

Yep, got exactly the same on my BMW 630....
Can t find any tweak but....
I am a heavy email user (thru BlackBerry connect) and I noticed that
the higher the number of messages stored, the higher disconnections appears.
At the same time, the TyTn is slower and slower....so my idea that this is related to some timeouts somewhere....
For your complete info, the MS bluetooth stack in my previuos S100 have able to.....immobilize my 630 !!!!!!!!! yes, incredible...
The MS stack messed up with the BMW bt ...and this later would stay ON for ever...even after switching car s power off.
This was sucking the car s battery untill the car would start !...
BMW could not reset the BT module unless disconnecting battery....but...then the active steering had to be re adjusted with the proper BMW computer...
This is a real story.

johnmclean said:
Hi all,
I know there are plenty of threads about the TyTN bluetooth issues, but my questions differs in two ways which I have yet to come across:
I do NOT have M$ VoiceCommander installed (and don't want to install it)
My bluetooth issue relates to my car's handsfree feature - my TyTN randomly connects and disconnects. Apparently Audis, VWs, BMWs, and Acura's all suffer from this this problem.
The situation:
When I start my car, the phone will successfully merge with my TyTN. Approximately 30 to 60 seconds later, the connection will be lost. Shortly after that the connection will re-establish itself, then it will disconnect itself a short period later. This pattern repeats endlessly.
I've tried each of the following Tweak programs but none have helped.
jetwaremobile
Tweak2k
HTweakC
I've heard that there is some kind of registry tweak that will prevent the bluetooth stack from disconnecting from my car's handsfree feature, but after looking for about 2 days now, I can't find it. Can anyone help?
thanks.
jm
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I have the same problem with a CK3100 kit, don't have a solution, but would like one, didn't have this problem with a Jasjar nor Wizard

TyTN bluetooth | random disconnect when using car handsfree - more details
Thanks for the replies so far.
Although the following thread did not help me with my problem, it might help one of you. If you're having problems mostly related to issuing voice commands using M$ VoiceCommander, I think there *might* be a solution in that other thread for you.
Just to reiterate my problem; my TyTN keeps randomly connecting and disconnecting from my car's built-in hands free bluetooth device.
There was a time when if i managed to made a call after first starting the car - before the first random disconnect - the phone would remain connected until the next time I started the car. That no longer appears to be the case.
-jm

I solved the BT problem with my Orange SPV M3100 by setting it to never switch off the display automatically (only switching off the backlight after 20 seconds or so). I also use an in-car charger to power the TyTN. The car is an A6 with RNS-E (BT enabled) and TyTN works fine and never loses the BT connection as long as the display is active.
This is a mid-term solution though and I'm still eagerly waiting for a ROM update that will solve the problem for good.

Has anyone tried a ROM with aku 3.3?

jasonrhcastle said:
Has anyone tried a ROM with aku 3.3?
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Yes.
And on my CK3100 I now no longer get disconnects. I did have to uninstall jetware as it wasn't reliable. My TyTN now connects perfectly and no longer drops.
One thing I did find is that the TyTN hates it when more than one handsfree device is in its trusted list. Make sure that the ck3100 is the only handsfree device paired.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&highlight=bluetooth+keeps+disconnecting

ajax007 said:
I solved the BT problem with my Orange SPV M3100 by setting it to never switch off the display automatically (only switching off the backlight after 20 seconds or so). I also use an in-car charger to power the TyTN. The car is an A6 with RNS-E (BT enabled) and TyTN works fine and never loses the BT connection as long as the display is active.
This is a mid-term solution though and I'm still eagerly waiting for a ROM update that will solve the problem for good.
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I've tried changing the automatic switch off setting and it made no difference on my SPV M3100 (with Parrot CK3100) - I reckon that the external power is what fixed your problem (this has worked for others too).
Sadly it's not a convenient fix as I like to leave my phone in my pocket when I'm in and out of the car. Orange say there is no 'issue' so there's no sign of a ROM update but HTC know of the problem but I have to wait for Orange to release their ROM update. I can't use the HTC update. If only us Orange users could tell them enough times they might listen now that some AKU 3.3s are being released. Orange technical department won't speak to end users like me - they have actually refused to discuss it with me and just pass messages back and forth from customer relations. Any other ideas?

A solution - thanks to Parrot
Yippee - thanks to Parrot I have got a solution to the TYTN / CK3100 problem (my phone is the Orange SPV M3100).
As Orange and HTC can't find any solution I kept asking Parrot for ideas. Their excellent customer service department tried various settings which made no difference until I was offered a trial of some beta test software called VCF creator. Once you have the VCF from the PC's Outlook you just need to beam it by BT across to the CK3100 and alter some settings (takes 5 minutes maximum). The small sacrifice is that you don't have auto-synchronisation so if your numbers change a lot you will need to do another VCF upload. The extra bonus benefit is that all your numbers will be grouped together. So, for example, you access someones name and then you can see their mobile/home/work number rather than having a separate line in the main list for each phone number. The problem is a result of how Windows Mobile phones provide the data. With this bonus you can then use voice activation to input a name followed by a keyword mobile, home, work etc. Fantastic!

587dan said:
Yippee - thanks to Parrot I have got a solution to the TYTN / CK3100 problem (my phone is the Orange SPV M3100).
As Orange and HTC can't find any solution I kept asking Parrot for ideas. Their excellent customer service department tried various settings which made no difference until I was offered a trial of some beta test software called VCF creator. Once you have the VCF from the PC's Outlook you just need to beam it by BT across to the CK3100 and alter some settings (takes 5 minutes maximum). The small sacrifice is that you don't have auto-synchronisation so if your numbers change a lot you will need to do another VCF upload. The extra bonus benefit is that all your numbers will be grouped together. So, for example, you access someones name and then you can see their mobile/home/work number rather than having a separate line in the main list for each phone number. The problem is a result of how Windows Mobile phones provide the data. With this bonus you can then use voice activation to input a name followed by a keyword mobile, home, work etc. Fantastic!
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If you use the Jetware BT software you can do the same thing e.g. beam the whole contact list in one go and then set the Parrot to not sync by choosing the Ericsson No Sync profile. This is how I have mine set up, also with the Jetware software it sends over the Service Provider, Battery and Signal strength settings to the Parrot, something which the native stack doesnt do.

Solution for this
Hey all, i have purchased a parrot 3100, the software in it was 1.6, i had the same problems but it's greatly and successfully solved using the new jetware 1.3 . i don't know if i can post some linx here, but here you go, if this is illegal for this site please remove them
http://rapidshare.com/files/30296941/JetWare_1.3.rar
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PL5UX5KC

Phonebook via Bluetooth

Apologies if this has been asked before, i've tried searching and now found a question that matches this, similar but not exact.
I have a Touch and now a Touch HD.
My Touch would connect to the cars bluetooth (Renault Laguna) and happily send over my phonebook so I could browse through it using the controls in the car.
My Touch HD connects ok, but doesn't send the phonebook (contact list always reports as empty). I've checked the Remote SIM Access box in case that makes a difference and ensured i'd copied over my contacts to the SIM first. I've even unpaired and repaired the phone, still 'empty'
I've tried using Jetware to get around this, which provides me with a "Windows encountered a problem with services.exe" which isn't very inspiring - but ultimately surely I shouldn't need to use a piece of software to 'add' a feature that existed on my older phone? Needless to say after all of this is done
Am I missing something? Any help anyone can provide me with would be appreciated.
My ROM version reports itself as 1.56.405.1 (43972) WWE, Protocol is 52.62.25.34U and radio is 1.13.25.24 if that offers any help?
Thanx in advance

I have to use Jetware BT to connect to my Alpine unit from http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
Does mean I can select the type of contacts i want to sync as well

Sorry, maybe I didn't make it clear.
Jetwaremobile doesn't appear to work properly on my Touch HD - it causes Windows Mobiles to report services.exe as needing to be closed. Performing a Soft-Reset makes no difference either.
I've emailed HTC about it but i'm not holding my breath on a response, its seems ridiculous that it did work on the old phone and now doesn't work on the newer model
The annoying thing is that I really really like the phone, but the inability to work with my cars built in BT 'headset' is something that makes me consider sending it back.

HD 2 and Sim Access Profile - not working?!

Hi @ all,
just got my HD2 with german ROM and one of the first things I tried out was to get a connection to my car (Audi A6) through the remote sim access profile (SAP, rSAP) - but it didn't work...
Does someone use the HD2 in his car using the sim access profile, as available in Audi or VW cars?
I have
- Audi A6 Avant (model 03/2008)
- using the "Audi rSAP Adaptor" in the car cradle, located in the arm rest
- everything in the HD2 is activated for Sim Access
Result:
HD2 and car are connecting, I have to put the 16 digit security code in my phone, but after that the SAP mode does not start, and so I have no access to my phonebook. It seems that I only have a "normal" bluetooth handsfree connection, because the HD2 still shows that he is booked into the mobile network - and when rSAP is active, the phone itself disconnects from the network and "falls asleep".
I restarted my HD2 several times, also the rSAP-Adapter by turning ignition of the car off and on until the adaptor switches off, deleting the connections, creating new connections, but nothing helps...
Any comments or experiences from other users are highliy appreciated
Finally, I have to remark that my HTC Snap, which I just upgraded to WM 6.5, works very good im my car with the rSAP - no problems at all, I get all my contacts in the MMI.
Thanks in advance,
Jolig

Just got my HD2 and am having the same problem.
I'm trying to connect with a 2009MY Skoda Superb with the rSAP bluetooth kit.
This works fine with my E71 and my HTC Touch Cruise.
I've been told that there used to be an issue with OBEX authentication on previous versions of Windows Mobile. Apparently, it was important to disable this authentication. However, I can't see the checkbox in the version of WM that the HD2 is running.
Does anyone know what registry entry this checkbox might have been changing?
Thanks,
Bagpuss.

Thanks Bagpuss,
who gave you this information?
I hope someone can solve this problem....but I fear we have to wait until we have more HD2 - owners
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EDIT:
I just have read something about the "Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool" where someone with similar problems activated OBEX (but it was an older Win Mobile device, and some months ago) - perhaps this could help?
But I just installed version 3.3 of this tool, but it doesn't work on my HD2...

Hi Jolig,
Check out this thread:
http://briskoda.net/superb-ii/howto...us-rns510-using-non-compatible-mobile/131709/
on Briskoda.net.
One of the guys there had lots of problems getting his WM phone to work, and posted the fruits of his labours.
From what I can tell, we can't use the CAB file he mentions, as rSAP is built into the OS version that the HD2 uses.
I've actually logged this issue with HTC, and am awaiting their response. My company is considering the HD2 as our next standard handset, and we won't go for it unless the rSAP functionality works with all VW/Audi group cars.
I'll let you know if they get back to me.
Bagpuss.

Thx Bagpuss,
and yes, in my opinion it's a mess that the rSAP is apparently VERY unimportant for most people or manufacturers...otherwise we wouldn't have this trouble....
I will come back too if I should find some news.

Had the same problem, tried lots of stuff but none of my WM devices is able to work with the rSap protocol. Gave up on it and then my Skoda Columbus system was stolen.
Replaced it with a JVC 7000 with detachable front. Disabled the rSap carkit and am now using the JVC BT carkit wich is working great. The problem is in the MS BT stack. It is not supporting the rSap the way it should. Only phones that work flawlessly are Nokia's I'm afraid...

The lack of rSAP support is what made me ignore the iPhone this time around.
I was hoping that the HD2 would be a viable alternative, but sadly, it doesn't look like this is going to be the case.
As I bought it over the phone, then I've got 7 days in which to return it. If I can't get it to work, then I guess I'll be getting an N97 or N97 Mini (which will definitely work). :-(
Bagpuss.

@ Bagpuss,
otherwise, as I wrote, I can recommend trying the small HTC Snap (or also called Maple?).
Ok, this one has no touch screen and also a very small screen - but I can confirm he works with rSAP and is not too expensive. I will keep this one, although I now have the HD2

As to Bagpuss' information concerning the OBEX, I tried the following:
- installed the newest .NET framework version
(that was necessary to get Advanced Config Tool v 3.3 running)
- install Schap's Advanced Config Tool
- in the menu "Bluetooth", I enabled OBEX
- after that the config tool does a soft reset
...still no success....no SAP and no phone book
I also wrote an email to HTC - it's really annoying, having SAP in the phone etc. and nothing works.

I've a Golf VI (RNS510) and it's working very well. Just had to change Bluetooth security settings that by default does not make HD2 visible to other devices. And after partnership was established, I've reverted the settings to "Allow only devices from MyDevices to connect"

Hi Binks821,
Binks821 said:
I've a Golf VI (RNS510) and it's working very well. Just had to change Bluetooth security settings that by default does not make HD2 visible to other devices. And after partnership was established, I've reverted the settings to "Allow only devices from MyDevices to connect"
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Can you confirm if your Golf has the premium bluetooth preparation?
There are two different versions of factory bluetooth kit for the RNS510, one which simply acts as a handsfree device, and the other (premium) which is a complete GSM phone.
It's the premium kit which uses rSAP, and which seems to be incompatible with the HD2.
You can tell if your Golf is using rSAP by checking to see if the signal strength meter on the HD2 shows any bars when connected to the car. If it does, then it's not using rSAP. If you see the signal meter with a little x in the corner, then it is using rSAP.
If you do have rSAP working, then I'd really like to know which firmware version your RNS510 is running, and also which firmware version you have in your HD2.
Thanks,
Bagpuss.

yes I've the premium version with RSAP access, not just handset.
Once partnership is established, it says SIM Access profile in Bluetooth settings, not Handset. And it disables my SIM on the phone, so no strength meter.
I had a Tytn before, and it was working the same way. Just when received my HD2 Monday, it was not working but default settings on the phone make HD2 not visible, So I received a message on the car saying "No compatible phone found". After playing with Bluetooth security settings, it was OK.
And of course I can import SIM contacts.
Be sure to check these settings (Settings tab in Sense, then Menu-> All Settings -> Bluetooth)
- Discoverable: always visible
- Advanced -> Connectivity: Allow all devices to connect, just during setup. After that change to "Allow only devices listed in My Devices to connect"
- Advanced -> SIM Access: be sure that rSAP is enabled
HD2 version info:
- OS: 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
- Manila: 2.5.19202525.0
For the car I have to check once I'll be in.

Hi Binks281,
Thanks for the confirmation.
I've now done some further testing in my car, and managed to have some success.
This is what I did.
In the car:
1) Remove all device pairings from the bluetooth system in the car.
On the HD2:
1) Perform a hard reset.
2) Turn on bluetooth. Make HD2 permanently discoverable.
3) Make sure rSAP is enabled (it is by default).
4) Turn off SIM pin (turns out this isn't necessary, but I wanted to make things simple).
So, at this point, I have the car system with no paired phones, and the HD2 with factory settings and no personal data (contacts etc.). I also made sure there were no contacts on the SIM card.
Back in the car, I perform a device search, and it detects the HD2.
I select the HD2, and the car displays the pairing password (1111 2222 3333 4444).
On the HD2, I enter the password.
I then get a prompt saying that Skoda_rSAP is trying to connect to the remote sim access service. I say allow, and also tick the box to allow all future connections.
After about 10 seconds, the maxidot in the car says 'New SIM card recognised', and prompts me to create a new user profile. I called it 'HTC_HD2'.
After about another 15-20 seconds, the car should extract the SIM details from the phone and the phone name, network and signal bars should appear in the car display.
You can now make calls, but there is no phonebook.
Given what others have said about the phonebook access, I'm pretty sure that this is what was stopping the pairing from working the first time I tried it. I've heard various stories, some which say that the phonebook access only works with SIM card contacts, some which say it only works with OBEX authentication switched off and so on.
If you look at the paired devices screen in the phone, then you can see connections coming into phone. First, you see a connection to the SIM Access profile, followed by a brief connection to the Phone Book Access profile. It was at this point, when accessing the phone book, that my previous attempts to pair failed.
I'm still trying to work out what is causing the problem with the phone, but I have done the following things:
1) Told the car to only sync phone memory contacts. By default, it's set to sync both SIM and phone memory. You can configure this on the car by going to Settings -> Phonebook -> Select Memory, and choosing 'Mobile Phone'.
2) Created four contacts in phone memory, one with only 1 mobile number, one with 2 numbers (mobile and home) and another two with three numbers (mobile, home and work). I've then gone into Settings -> Phonebook -> Upload and sync these across to the car.
So far, this has worked fine and disconnecting and reconnecting to the car works without a hitch.
I'm now going to try syncing a small subset of my contacts with ActiveSync to see if this also works.
If it does, then I'll gradually increase the number until it either works, or fails.
I'll report my progress here.
Bagpuss.

Thanks Bagpuss,
sounds interesting!
I think tomorrow I will try this also:
- remove all paired phones in the car-system
- delete all contacts
- disable SIM Pin
Temporarily I am not sure if I will do a hart reset in the first step because I've already installed so much... When the work fails, I thing I must do it
I will report what happened.
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EDIT:
Ah, come on...TV this evening nothing interesting, wife in bed...I tried it, including hardreset
No success.
Bagpuss, what I detected:
First, you see a connection to the SIM Access profile, followed by a brief connection to the Phone Book Access profile. It was at this point, when accessing the phone book, that my previous attempts to pair failed.
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This connection to the Sim Access Profile I see also, but only for one second, then it dissappears and then the connection "Handsfree" comes up - and this one remains....
I do not know else what to do.
I now reconnected my beloved HTC Snap/Maple, and now I will start installing my apps on the HD2....

Hi Jolig,
Sorry to hear that it didn't work.
By the sounds of it, the Audi system is somewhat different to the VW/Skoda one. From what I can tell, your system also appears to support using phones in handsfree mode (I'm guessing that the iPhone works in your car).
In the VW/Skoda cars, you can either have a car kit that acts as a handsfree device or one that uses rSAP, but not both.
It could just be that the HD2 isn't responding to the rSAP request quickly enough to satisfy the MMI. In that event, it falls back to using handsfree mode.
When it shows 'handsfree' on the HD2, can you use the MMI to make calls?
This whole area seems to be a bit flaky on the HD2, as I still can't work out why mine didn't work when I first tried.
Bagpuss.

Binks821 said:
yes I've the premium version with RSAP access, not just handset.
Once partnership is established, it says SIM Access profile in Bluetooth settings, not Handset. And it disables my SIM on the phone, so no strength meter.
I had a Tytn before, and it was working the same way. Just when received my HD2 Monday, it was not working but default settings on the phone make HD2 not visible, So I received a message on the car saying "No compatible phone found". After playing with Bluetooth security settings, it was OK.
And of course I can import SIM contacts.
Be sure to check these settings (Settings tab in Sense, then Menu-> All Settings -> Bluetooth)
- Discoverable: always visible
- Advanced -> Connectivity: Allow all devices to connect, just during setup. After that change to "Allow only devices listed in My Devices to connect"
- Advanced -> SIM Access: be sure that rSAP is enabled
HD2 version info:
- OS: 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
- Manila: 2.5.19202525.0
For the car I have to check once I'll be in.
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Hello Binks821,
I believe that I have the same hardware situation like you but I can't get my HD2 started on my VW Passat with the Premium FSE. The problem is, that I can go through the whole "finding and connecting process" and can save the PIN but then the Connection gets lost between the HD2 and the PFSE. If seems that the PFSE can't connect to the Network (E-Plus) but why the BT-Connect gets lost in this case.
Maybe you can help me to get it work. Thanks a lot!
Negropo

Hello everybody,
maybe I found a solution that work for every sap-handsfree-set. I tried the hint was given on the german car forum "motor-talk" for the connection problem between a vw pfse and the htc touch diamond with wm 6.1 or 6.5.
The trick is that you have to disconnect the HD2 from the pfse by manual when the car first want's to connect automatically. You have to go to the BT-Setup to the tab where are the connected devices listed. If you click on the "+" right of the name of the device you should be seen the tab "Remote Sim Access" or in german "Sim-Zugriff". When the car connect's to the HD2you have to stop this by pressing disconnect in the right below corner of the HD2 screen. Then the connection is terminated. Now you have to start the connection manual over the menu in your car. In a VW you have to press only "connect" in the MFA. And then the HD2 should connect without problems. I don't know why it works but it does. Maybe there is someone here who can explain it and find another "automatic" solution for this problem.
Regards Norman

Well, I don't have a VW but an Audi with an rSAP-Adaptor in the middle arm rest. I fear this also doesn't work for me.
The problem is that this Tab "Sim Access" only appears for just one second, so I have no chance to make anything whithin this single second....and after disppearing of the tab "sim access" another tab "handsfree" appears - and stays. So it seems my Audi only recognizes a handsfree profile. I don't know why,
Temporarily I am happy that I still have my HTC Snap, which is working very fine with rSAP
@ Negropo, can you tell me in which thread at motor-talk you found that?
Thanks,
Jolig

Hi guys,
rSAP works fine with my Audi A4 BTA. I made the HD2 discoverable for any device and I activated the SIM access in the HD2 BT settings. Then I start searching for Bt device on my Audi BT and initiated the connection with the HD2.After inserting the 16 character pin everything works fine.
By the way ... the connections seems to be very stable. With the Touch Diamond I had from time to time connection interrupts where it was necessary to reset/restart the Touch Diamond again.
Best regards,
Matthias

@ Matthias,
"BTA" means that you have the built-in phone with rSAP, right? Is it a brandnew A4?

Bluetooth connection to carkit -> phonebook does not sync

I can connect the HD2 to my new MINI with bluetooth carkit fine via headset profile.
However, the phonebook does not sync with the car.
Ir worked fine with the HD with the Microsoft bluetooth-stack.
Is there any solution for that?

bill340 said:
I can connect the HD2 to my new MINI with bluetooth carkit fine via headset profile.
However, the phonebook does not sync with the car.
Ir worked fine with the HD with the Microsoft bluetooth-stack.
Is there any solution for that?
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With TouchHD i did sync Phonebook to my nissan car without problems (winmobile 6.1)
I think this program will work on HD2 also (winmobile 6.5)
http://www.handango.com/catalog/ProductDetails.jsp?productId=183981&platformId=30
regards nico

No, that does not help.
With this app you can only send contacts and so on to another device.
But here, everytime you connect the device via bluetooth with the car, the car should read the contacts from the phone.
That worked without problems with the microsoft-stack.

I am having a similar issue, paired phone with Mercedes HFP and first time contacts came across. Next time back in the car and it reconnects, the contact memory is empty? Can still make and receive calls but no contacts. If I re-pair the phone by resetting HFP in car then contacts come across? Software issue on phone or car kit driver issue? Previously had HTC S710 and had no problems. Very annoying so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

Same here - I even ca`nnot get the car be paired with HD2 - why ?

Hello,
here is my issue with the BT connection: I have a Pioneer F900BT unit in my car. With my previous Nokia E66 everything worked just fine.
Now, when connecting with HD2, connection works ok, phonebook is downloaded ok, BUT: when there is a call, the music in the car is not silenced automatically; what's worse, it seems the phone doesn't send any call identification to the headunit, since all the history (outgoing, incoming calls) is empty. So, I cannot redial or see who's calling me.
I did try the fix in the registry described on another thread (setting HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\sys\COD=5374476, but it doesn't help.
Any idea?
Thank you.

It works perfectly with my Mercedes Command with Bluetooth Adapter, it does not transfer all of my 800 contacts because it use to make a new entry for each tel. number (Home / Works, etc.) therefore it says "memory full" at about 75% but I can understand. At least I can call/recognize up to the "S" beginning contacts.
Anyhow, since I used to have this problem in the past, you could try Jetware, it worked for me with my Cruise.

dfulgo said:
It works perfectly with my Mercedes Command with Bluetooth Adapter, it does not transfer all of my 800 contacts because it use to make a new entry for each tel. number (Home / Works, etc.) therefore it says "memory full" at about 75% but I can understand. At least I can call/recognize up to the "S" beginning contacts.
Anyhow, since I used to have this problem in the past, you could try Jetware, it worked for me with my Cruise.
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Jetware unfortunatly does not work with the widcomm-stack used in the HD2.

jma050 said:
I am having a similar issue, paired phone with Mercedes HFP and first time contacts came across. Next time back in the car and it reconnects, the contact memory is empty? Can still make and receive calls but no contacts. If I re-pair the phone by resetting HFP in car then contacts come across? Software issue on phone or car kit driver issue? Previously had HTC S710 and had no problems. Very annoying so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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To follow up, I have found that its the pin lock (mentioned in another thread) that is causing the problem. If you unlock your phone before you pair up then contacts are coming across every time. May not work for everyone if their problem is different but has for me so wanted to share. If anyone knows how to bypass security issue with paired device I would like to know but as a workaround its better than no contacts!

I have this problem with my BMW iDrive too. No problems getting the address data on the HD but not working for me on the HD2. Can pair and make calls though. Any solution?

phonebook does not sync
I have a BMW with the bluetooth feature. From what I have noticed there is a connection started to the phonebook and it starts sending (and receving some) information but after about 110k it stoppes and the phonebook is disconnected. I would be happy to assist in any further analysis if anybody has any ideas.
I have no problem making and receiving calls in through this setup, but, as stated, the connection to the phonebook is not possbile. This was previously possible throgh the HD
//Awi

aszotten said:
I have a BMW with the bluetooth feature. From what I have noticed there is a connection started to the phonebook and it starts sending (and receving some) information but after about 110k it stoppes and the phonebook is disconnected. I would be happy to assist in any further analysis if anybody has any ideas.
I have no problem making and receiving calls in through this setup, but, as stated, the connection to the phonebook is not possbile. This was previously possible throgh the HD
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read my previous reply, its because your phone is locked whn it connects. If you unlock it before you pair up it should work.

jma050 said:
read my previous reply, its because your phone is locked whn it connects. If you unlock it before you pair up it should work.
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OK. I tried to just unlock it, but this did not work. I will try to unpair, then unlock and then pair again, and see if this then works.
//Awi

Did not work ...
aszotten said:
OK. I tried to just unlock it, but this did not work. I will try to unpair, then unlock and then pair again, and see if this then works.
//Awi
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Well, unfortunately it did not work. I unpaired the phone from the carkit, then removed the pin on the phone, did a soft reset, paired the phone with the carkit and saw that it started communicating with the phone book, but the communication stopped after about 110kb, as it usually does, and the phonebook was then disconnected.
Any ideas anyone?
//Awi

Same issue
I'm facing the same issue... New Mercedes, phone calls are no problem but phonebook is not accessible... I doubt that it's a lock issue... When I paired it it also didn't work but there it was certainly unlocked...

jma050 said:
To follow up, I have found that its the pin lock (mentioned in another thread) that is causing the problem. If you unlock your phone before you pair up then contacts are coming across every time. May not work for everyone if their problem is different but has for me so wanted to share. If anyone knows how to bypass security issue with paired device I would like to know but as a workaround its better than no contacts!
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can you please direct me in the right direction...what are you refering to here?
please help

Bluetooth BMW and HTC HD2

Hi
I have a BMW X5 and a HTC HD2 with the newest ROM. When I enter the car, HD2 is recognised automatically by the car and I can place phonecalls dialing from my HD2. The only thing that does not work is that BMW tries to upload my phonebook from the phone but it does not get it. BMW says "please wait" - forever.
Before I flashed the ROM, this worked. Anyone has any ideas? I would even pay for someone in Zurich who comes and fixes this. One thing I could do of course is to downgrade my ROM again. But before I do this, I want to explore any other options.
Thanks a lot!
PS: jetwaremobile.com definately does NOT work on HD2

I have exactly the same issue. The HTC HD2 works ok for calls etc but the phone book upload is "please wait" forever. Very annoying. I have the standard up to date ROM and BMW X5 2009 model. Any help would be great.
Thanks
mrickenbach said:
Hi
I have a BMW X5 and a HTC HD2 with the newest ROM. When I enter the car, HD2 is recognised automatically by the car and I can place phonecalls dialing from my HD2. The only thing that does not work is that BMW tries to upload my phonebook from the phone but it does not get it. BMW says "please wait" - forever.
Before I flashed the ROM, this worked. Anyone has any ideas? I would even pay for someone in Zurich who comes and fixes this. One thing I could do of course is to downgrade my ROM again. But before I do this, I want to explore any other options.
Thanks a lot!
PS: jetwaremobile.com definately does NOT work on HD2
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So any ideas? Now we are already two you can make happy! Thanks

Hey..
I don't have a BMW neither a bluetooth radio BUT i somewhere read in this forum, that there is a fix, to let the hd2 be recognized as normal phone
I know I'm not that much help , but I hope u can find the thread here good luck =)

HD2_Noob said:
Hey..
I don't have a BMW neither a bluetooth radio BUT i somewhere read in this forum, that there is a fix, to let the hd2 be recognized as normal phone
I know I'm not that much help , but I hope u can find the thread here good luck =)
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I have a 2008 BMW, and I did experience this the first time..I sat there waiting for a few mins adn then got bored...but after I had turned the car off, been away and come back..it transferred straightaway.
Funnily enough, when I had my iphone (yes..sorry) I had the little image of the phone next to the BT signal on the display. I don't get this straight away with the HD2, but it always eventually appears..and then stays there until I hard reset my phone and do a ROM upgrade and then start the pairing again..where I just get the BT signal...then randomly..a few weeks later, the phone image appears again....very odd

Works fine here with a BMW 5x from 2008.. Using miris 6.5.x ROM

Funnily enough, when I had my iphone (yes..sorry) I had the little image of the phone next to the BT signal on the display. I don't get this straight away with the HD2, but it always eventually appears..and then stays there until I hard reset my phone and do a ROM upgrade and then start the pairing again..where I just get the BT signal...then randomly..a few weeks later, the phone image appears again....very odd
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Hi, I also have a 2008 BMW (E93) and I do see the phone logo. It also syncs about 250 of my >3000 contacts. With my TyTN2 I used "Jetware Mobile" to sync just one dedicated category. But that doesn't work anymore with MinMo 6.5

schrej said:
Hi, I also have a 2008 BMW (E93) and I do see the phone logo. It also syncs about 250 of my >3000 contacts. With my TyTN2 I used "Jetware Mobile" to sync just one dedicated category. But that doesn't work anymore with MinMo 6.5
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oh yes it does!
in fact, this is the only thing that works in Jetware with WM 6.5 - nothing else works in my case
i have a 2005 X5

bmw
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )

zipolly said:
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
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Which ROM do you use 1.66? or earlier? With my earlier ROM I had no problems, but since I upgraded to 1.66 (German), the phonebook does not transfer...

Bluetooth auto control problem
I can’t control my bluetooth (on/off) when using Inesoft phone profiles/controls; I have also tried other programs but no success(in another program the window of bluetooth was disabled); through all programs, I could control phone, WIFI, and gprs but not the Bluetooth. The only way to turn the Bluetooth on/ off is the Comm Manager (Manually); could anyone help please. Thanks

2006 bmw
I use the latest 1.66 wwe rom off t he htc website with no problems at all .

zipolly said:
I use the latest 1.66 wwe rom off t he htc website with no problems at all .
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thank you, I am glad it worked for you...you must have a newer generation ULF than me then.
Is your phone HD2? mine is Toshiba TG01..I have managed to make it work 50/50 of the times, but I do not know WHAT CHANGES are between it working and not working...it is very frustating to know (and experience it working) that it can/should work, but not being able to

I have a new HTC Mini HD and have the same problems with my 2009 BMW 3. BT Headset function works just fine, but iDrive keeps trying to sync the telephone book, unsuccesfull. Instead, my phone's battery gets drained. Anyone any sollutions?

Unfortunately I don't have an answer for your question, but it sounds like it might have something to do with the bluetooth stack used for that ROM/Radio not being recognized by the car. Perhaps the layer that deals with data transfer is removed. Sorry I can't be of more help here.
What I can do to help is to offer a warning. I am a former BMW Client Advisor, and have been told many, many times by service technicians that using phones which are not specifically approved by BMW can affect your car's ECU (brain) and if it needs to be repaired or replaced, it will not be covered under warranty. That could be just nonsense to force you into buying only phones which BMW has tested (or vendors have paid for a marketing fee), or it might be spot on, in which case you run a pretty big risk.
Hope this helps.

OK, problem solved. BMW updated my carsoftware to its newest version last week and now my HD2 works perfectly with my car (again). I can make calls AND my phonebook is synced as well.
Hint1: Try if your phonebook sync problem exists with the SIM contacts as well as with the phone contacts
Hint 2: worldwideweb.bmw.com/com/de/owners/navigation/bluetooth/compatibility_check_intro.html

a_petrov303 said:
oh yes it does!
in fact, this is the only thing that works in Jetware with WM 6.5 - nothing else works in my case
i have a 2005 X5
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zipolly said:
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
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Hi All,
I have a BMW X5 2005 model. I can pair the phone OK but it constantly disconnects and reconnects once the transfer of the phonebook occurs. The phonebook transfers always start from scratch when this happens and nothing gets loaded to the car's phonebook.
If a call comes in, or if I make a call while it is connected (like within 5 seconds) the phone stays connected for the duration of the call.
I have tried all the Regisrty tweaks and none change the behaviour.
I also read it is because the HD2 uses Widcomm BT stack and not the MS BT Stack.
Zippolly and a_petrov303 and all those that have it working, can you please tell me which Rom you are using? I am using the latest Energy's 6.5.x rom. i noticed someone mentioned Miri's 6.5.x Rom works.
Thanks,
Rob

I have a 07 E60. The HD2 pairs fine, synchs contacts fine, but the sound quality is so bad it's not useable. Of course bmw says it's not a compatible phone, but I think there is a problem with the car as my Diamond won't find it, even though it is supposed to be supported

its mainly due to the car bluetooth, BMW etc don't make the car kit mostly siemens do and they are slow on the uptake of doing updates.

anybody found a snap-in for the hd2 yet?
I have a 7-series F01 and it is really annoying to have to deal with that usb cable...
Ontopic
I had the BT problem too, deleting the profile and repairing the phone did the trick for me...