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Hi,
I have a big problem with my Tytn (sorry if this is already been posted). Quite often the phone freezes, making it impossible to turn on again. The only thing that works is a soft-reset. What is worse, is that when the phone is in this state, although the green light is regularly flashing, it is unable to get phone calls even if the caller gets the normal ringing signal. No trace is left of the call, neither in calls list! This is a really serious issue: please, let me know if you have an idea of how to solve the problem.
Thanks!
I am having the same issue. I haven't been able to isolate it. I was havign to0 restart 1-2 times a day. Same systems press the power button nothing. Lights blinking everything looks ok. but nothing on the screen. and i miss calls. really pain in the ass. I loaded mobile secretary and it hasn;t locked in a day or two which is odd.
I also sometimes have to rpess the power button two times for it to wake
me too
It's happening to me too. I will lose service and the phone doesn't go out and poll automatically when service should be good. It may show 1, 2, 3 bars then when I try to make a call it hangs, and then get an x and a Y!, then searches for service. I have the GSM only hack installed and the activesync workaround and it still does this. It is not useable as a phone.
do a search in this forum.
one relevant thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285974
With all due respect, there is no solution where the link leads to.
I am having the GSM problem also. Just from time to time I am noticing an exclamation mark near the 'antennae' icon in the top bar. When I tap it, I read 'Service unavailable' in the balloon. From that point I may either soft-reset, or switch GSM flight mode on and off, which brings the PIN code keyboard and the phone works again.
I really don't think it is related to power saving, as it happened a few times in the car with TyTN on external power.
mnez said:
With all due respect, there is no solution where the link leads to.
I am having the GSM problem also. Just from time to time I am noticing an exclamation mark near the 'antennae' icon in the top bar. When I tap it, I read 'Service unavailable' in the balloon. From that point I may either soft-reset, or switch GSM flight mode on and off, which brings the PIN code keyboard and the phone works again.
I really don't think it is related to power saving, as it happened a few times in the car with TyTN on external power.
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I think warmkiwi's link may be relevant to jimwormold's original post, which may not be related to your and angled1's problem of failing to poll correctly after dropping it's signal.
Mike
yes, it was. sorry, i should have quoted the original author (jimwormold)
well, sorry for being so picky on you :|
Now when we have defragmented the conversation I wonder if the GSM problem is reported more widely? and what is supposed to do in order to isolate the problem and fix it...?
jimwormold said:
Quite often the phone freezes, making it impossible to turn on again. The only thing that works is a soft-reset. What is worse, is that when the phone is in this state, although the green light is regularly flashing, it is unable to get phone calls
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Sorry to do a "me too" posting, but I experience the exact same symptoms. There is no obvious pattern to when this happens, but it is a major problem, as there is no way (other than trying to switch it on) to distinguish whether the phone is working or not at any given moment.
I am running the latest (South African) ROM on my Vario II.
Philip said:
Sorry to do a "me too" posting, but I experience the exact same symptoms. There is no obvious pattern to when this happens, but it is a major problem, as there is no way (other than trying to switch it on) to distinguish whether the phone is working or not at any given moment.
I am running the latest (South African) ROM on my Vario II.
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Given this thread now appears to have two distinct issues running together I better be clear that I am referring to the lock-up/freezing issue not the dropped GSM signal issue!!
To be honest there are quite a few possible causes for the freezing issue(s). I would suggest searches and the wiki on such things as (and you may or may not have tried some already):
1. Use of a Task Manager to properly shut running programmes otherwise they contiue to run in the background
2. Proper shutting down of Active Sync in addition to any task manager you may have, as it can re-start itself automatically (particularly overnight. Look for the "Fake Server Trick")
3. Always shut down Wifi when not in use (vital particularly overnight but also good practice to avoid lock ups)
4 For overnight and possibly other quiet times you can consider having your device automatically perform a soft reset to clear any running programmes that may block alarms/receipt of mail etc. Look for such things as xbar or SK schema
Mike
mikechannon said:
Given this thread now appears to have two distinct issues running together I better be clear that I am referring to the lock-up/freezing issue not the dropped GSM signal issue!!
1. Use of a Task Manager to properly shut running programmes otherwise they contiue to run in the background
2. Proper shutting down of Active Sync in addition to any task manager you may have, as it can re-start itself automatically (particularly overnight. Look for the "Fake Server Trick")
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Yes indeed, although I think that both: a Phone App problem, and a GSM signal problem, are indeed the same, maybe only differently percepted and described by users affected.
I need ActiveSync to be running in order for DirectPush to work. If it conflicts with the phone, it makes the device unusable concerning push email functionality.
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Yes indeed, although I think that both: a Phone App problem, and a GSM signal problem, are indeed the same, maybe only differently percepted and described by users affected.
I need ActiveSync to be running in order to DirectPush work. If it conflicts with the phone, it makes the device unusable concerning push email functionality.
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I agree they may be cause and effect for some folks. Although I don't believe we can say that all the freezing and lock-ups are due to dropped GSM signal and freezing when failing to re-establish it. The items I list either taken together or individually have been found by others to work in some cases.
I appreciate that if you require Active Sync running then this is not a solution for you. I think the issue of crashing on loss of signal requires more analysis and I'm not aware of much discussion of it - though I could be wrong!!
Mike
I was fiddling with the phone yesterday and today, and I have a hypothesis that my problem is related to PIN entry screen that won't pop up but is silently awaiting a PIN underneath.
I was trying to ucheck the "Require PIN when phone is used" box in Settings but with no luck, my PIN is then refused with "Unknown SIM Error" message. Maybe it wants a PUK but I don't have it on hand to try.
My plan now is to:
- uninstall all Phone-related applications (PhonePlus, Dark_Blue Buttons, EZDial),
- request PUK from my office and try to uncheck the box,
- try prepaid SIM card which has no PIN
To observe symptoms I need two-three days, so I will rather not be posting until solid data is collected.
ps Mike, it is a pleasure to be on a board with people like you.
mnez said:
I was fiddling with the phone yesterday and today, and I have a hypothesis that my problem is related to PIN entry screen that won't pop up but is silently awaiting a PIN underneath.
I was trying to ucheck the "Require PIN when phone is used" box in Settings but with no luck, my PIN is then refused with "Unknown SIM Error" message. Maybe it wants a PUK but I don't have it on hand to try.
My plan now is to:
- uninstall all Phone-related applications (PhonePlus, Dark_Blue Buttons, EZDial),
- request PUK from my office and try to uncheck the box,
- try prepaid SIM card which has no PIN
To observe symptoms I need two-three days, so I will rather not be posting until solid data is collected.
ps Mike, it is a pleasure to be on a board with people like you.
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Very kind of you to say so
Look forward to seeing your findings.
Mike
new phone
I'm on day 2 of my replacement phone from Cingular and the problem with losing gsm signal is non existent. The problem was hardware and fixed by calling and getting a warranty replacement phone. I'll let you know if the problem returns. Oh, and I have not been using the gsm only hack. I'm trying to see if the phone will work as designed first.
angled1 said:
I'm on day 2 of my replacement phone from Cingular and the problem with losing gsm signal is non existent. The problem was hardware and fixed by calling and getting a warranty replacement phone. I'll let you know if the problem returns. Oh, and I have not been using the gsm only hack. I'm trying to see if the phone will work as designed first.
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Good news - hope it continues to work well.
Mike
I am reporting from the test field that my problem persists, despite uninstalling all phone-related extenders.
I have noticed that freezing is paired with disabling Bluetooth. So after switching the phone off (flight mode on) and back on (flight mode off), I also have to turn on Bluetooth.
EDIT: I was grounded for last few days at home and freezing problem was not occuring. I am now thinking that it may be related to switching band between GPRS and UMTS. My next step will be disabling UMTS for good. It saves a whole lotta battery, by the way. I am for the third day mostly on standby, with a few calls made, and I am still on 70%! (no 3G in the area)
I have contacted my vendor and asked about replacement policy, they are "checking this with the importer". It's a beauty of living in not-so-western country. Poland is the name.
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EDIT: I was grounded for last few days at home and freezing problem was not occuring. I am now thinking that it may be related to switching band between GPRS and UMTS. My next step will be disabling UMTS for good. It saves a whole lotta battery, by the way. I am for the third day mostly on standby, with a few calls made, and I am still on 70%! (no 3G in the area)
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I'm having exactly the same problem, very annoying because the staus LEDs keep blinking as normal. I too think the problem is UMST-GPRS switching related, as I also have problems when phoning while I drive with my car from a UMTS enabled into a GPRS only zone. The voice call is interupted and I get a loud noise, sounding like a scrambled voice, on both sides of the connection. At home my UMTS signal is very weak, so I think it happens when I move around the house to a place where the TyTN switches to GPRS.
I've put my TyTN to "GSM network" only now to see if this helps, but I use UMTS frequently so this is no long term solution for me.
pbw
same problem here, only gsm wil not help, new sim cards wont help either even other provider wont help
check: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287669
treid several different roms nothing will help
good luck
Hi,
mine was siffering of freezing issue, I sent a mail to HTC support, they don't know about it but the guy said me that I must to hard reset my device. Then no more freezes, I will keep testing it.
Regards,
Taguapire.
BTW: I changed my old and almost destroyed SIM card by a new one.
guys here is a list of little nags that i have, i have tried everything to try and fix them, flashed every radio and rom with no success, and tried changing every setting on the phone. id be so grateful to get any of these fixed.
1) latest version of Swype (v2.0) with skin crashes frequently, i am able to use the keyboard but no text is entered, to solve this i must switch back to the full keyboard and then back to Swype
2) opera says a download is completed, when the file is launched it is for example 300kbs and will not launch, when i download the same file again the file is downloaded and is for example 8mb, the file then opens. Double click to zoom also doesn't work for me on certain websites, for example BBC
3) there is NO solution to this, i have looked high and low for this, my internet connection disconnects very frequently, i have tried every single option to no avail, the internet disconnects very frequently if HSDPA is enabled (supported by my payment plan) and fairly often if disabled. put simply, this makes internet browsing a royal pain in the backside
4) after reading so many good things about the battery life of the phone i convinced myself it must have been a bad battery. bought a second official one - not cheap, even worse. 15 minutes of web use with all data services disabled in a strong reception area will drain roughly 20% of the battery, have tried all sorts of power management cabs and tweaks. ive drained the battery and charged it fully going on 8 times now.
5) a calendar appointment is created which lasts the whole day (a birthday), no reminder is set, so i dont appreciate it when i get reminded at 12o'clock at night when im sleeping
6) the weather is set to download every 3 hours, so why does it download every 20 mins?
im not complaining guys, honestly this is the best phone ive ever had and i recomment it to everyone, but some of the issues i have truly are annoying. id greatly appreciate ANY help in regards to any of the issues above
thanks
1 - i had trouble with the latest swype (the pale grey one? silvery coloured?) i went back to the dark one, it was unuseable (cant seem to find out how to bring up its version number, , the cab just says swype.cab, , , heh. So i'd say try get an earlier version, Mine works lovely.
2 - move the opera cache to the sd card, and clean it now n again. I have a lot of that kind of trouble with podcasts from bbc, 15 meg or so, , seems to help with the cache on sd.
3 - dont really know about the network details. sorry.
4 - i DO know that if you live on teh edge of the decent signal area, your phone jumping between 3g/hsdpa and edge/gprs will eat your battery. find comm manager and switch off the 3g button (if you have one) when you dont need fast access, can vastly improve battery, and email and other syncs dont need 3g most of teh time, only browsing.
5 - thats probably outlook adding the default "the day before" reminder, (or maybe the htc one works the same as the outlook one) either way, you have to manuall edit the appointment to set the reminder to no reminder.
6 - it will download if you linger on the weather tab for a second or so when swiping. Gives the impression that it is always updating.
Hope some of them at least help!
sam
thanks for the fast reply, not the first time too
1) ok ill uninstall swype and install the older one, hope this gets fixed as i prefer this layout
2) thanks - i have moved the opera cache to the sd card
3) my operator is tmobile uk, HSDPA is supported and so is 3g, i have unlimited data plan, the connection will drop after a couple mins, normally less, if HSDPA is disabled, the connection is slower but more stable, but in the end, the connection will drop
4) ive disabled HSDPA because atm its unusable, i do indeed have that 3g button and is always off, my connection is always on G, still 20% battery loss after 15 mins surfing
5) i mentioned that i set it to no reminder, what do you mean?
6) that makes sense - thanks
if you have any ideas how to solve number 3 id really appreciate it
I had the same issue with Virgin UK (uses Tmobile as you are aware) I flashed to 1.66 rom and my problems went away - battery life as much better also, hope it helps
thanks for your reply
i have also flashed to official 1.66 rom, the problem didnt change at all
i even tried different radios with this rom
any other ideas?
thanks
backup before you do the swype change, if you use a lock password, i believe some version of swype can affect that? (i dont use one so i wouldn't know, there are threads on it)
about outlook and the reminder thing, i'm not really sure of the details, but i've been syncing the same set of contacts and calendar with outlook for probably 6 or 7 years, and several times ive come across a situation where you set up an app, or event or something, and set no reminder, and it goes off at midnight the day before - the setting is actually 'one day' and the day starts at midnight, d'oh.
How it comes to be that it doesn't get saved i haven't pinned down, but it generally seems to be after a hard reset/complete wipe and resync. It often (not always) also creates duplicate birthday reminders.
This has happened to me from office 2000 right through to 2k7, and on different phone OS's, and different sync programs but it doesnt happen all the time.
(bit non specific, sorry)
it sounds to me like an outlook related problem, but i dont use outlook at all to sync anything to my phone
i still dont have a clue why i cant double click to zoom on certain websites, bbc is the one i look at the most its very annoying
Yea i hate the no double click on bbc site . Must be something about how its constructed i guess. , , cuts coming next year, it'l fall appart....
cgrec92 said:
4) after reading so many good things about the battery life of the phone i convinced myself it must have been a bad battery. bought a second official one - not cheap, even worse. 15 minutes of web use with all data services disabled in a strong reception area will drain roughly 20% of the battery, have tried all sorts of power management cabs and tweaks. ive drained the battery and charged it fully going on 8 times now.
thanks
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Your battery should not behave like this and you should stop draining and charging the battery because you will ruin it and I suspect that you may have already done damage.
The batteries need a good few weeks of use to reach their max usable capacity and to achieve this charge it as often as you can for as long as you can. Nothing more, nothing less. No draining, cycling, conditioning of any sort. Just use it and keep it on charge.
I have mine on charge always at home and in the car and I have never got below 40% during the day and I'm a heavy user of the internet.
I have two backup power packs and have needed them only once when I was away for two days and couldn't easily charge.
thanks for your reply, i will do this for the battery, ill report back if it helps
thanks
anyone have a clue?
thanks in advance
cgrec92 said:
guys here is a list of little nags that i have, i have tried everything to try and fix them, flashed every radio and rom with no success, and tried changing every setting on the phone. id be so grateful to get any of these fixed.
1) latest version of Swype (v2.0) with skin crashes frequently, i am able to use the keyboard but no text is entered, to solve this i must switch back to the full keyboard and then back to Swype
2) opera says a download is completed, when the file is launched it is for example 300kbs and will not launch, when i download the same file again the file is downloaded and is for example 8mb, the file then opens. Double click to zoom also doesn't work for me on certain websites, for example BBC
3) there is NO solution to this, i have looked high and low for this, my internet connection disconnects very frequently, i have tried every single option to no avail, the internet disconnects very frequently if HSDPA is enabled (supported by my payment plan) and fairly often if disabled. put simply, this makes internet browsing a royal pain in the backside
4) after reading so many good things about the battery life of the phone i convinced myself it must have been a bad battery. bought a second official one - not cheap, even worse. 15 minutes of web use with all data services disabled in a strong reception area will drain roughly 20% of the battery, have tried all sorts of power management cabs and tweaks. ive drained the battery and charged it fully going on 8 times now.
5) a calendar appointment is created which lasts the whole day (a birthday), no reminder is set, so i dont appreciate it when i get reminded at 12o'clock at night when im sleeping
6) the weather is set to download every 3 hours, so why does it download every 20 mins?
im not complaining guys, honestly this is the best phone ive ever had and i recomment it to everyone, but some of the issues i have truly are annoying. id greatly appreciate ANY help in regards to any of the issues above
thanks
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I experience the same problem (frequent loss of internet connection). I then shut down data connection and immediately re-enable it to turn it back on. This works, but it's annoying and a definite let-down for any smartphone, especially our powerful HD2.
I can't believe nobody has a solution for this. Apparently not even HTC does.
Anyone???
im glad im not alone, there are many many people with the same issues, whoever finds a fix is a saint!
My battery seems fine since i dropped a radio version and can now lost 3+ days with a lot of use and everything downloading automatic.
there are only two things that annoy me, slow/ lag when texting on the keypad and finally the random ghost typing
could you mention what operator youre using and where youre located?
perhaps your radio would be suitable for mine too
Make sure your birthday reminders are set to "none" and not "0 minutes".
I had this problem with birthdays also. They seemed to revert back to 0 mins when i flashed my phone and re-synced my contacts wo had to go through them and set from 0 min to none. Pain in the neck but better than being woken up at midnight!
cgrec92 said:
im glad im not alone, there are many many people with the same issues, whoever finds a fix is a saint!
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I contacted the HTC customer service via their website and this is the reply I got from them:
This could be a driver conflict and we recommend to try a hard reset on it make sure that you back up all your data before the reset. If the problem still going on after this then contact us in this line +44 8458900079 and we will send your device to be repaired.
Does this make any sense? It almost seems to good to be true. My phone is fresh out of the box, been using it for about two weeks now with a standard 1.66 ROM. The data disconnect problem has been there since day one. I kinda feel like they recommend a hard reset no matter what the problem is
Anyway, I've read about other people having the same problem as cgrec92 and I but... is this an universal problem or are there lost of users out there who have no data connection problem?
that's really useful information thanks for posting that ill definitely keep in mind that i can send it off to get repaired, although keep in mind most people who have done this say nothing changes, from all I've read, tmobile customers are the most affected, i have done hard resets before but they em nothing, I'm going to try mtty to completely format the phone, maybe its something left over from the tmobile stock rom? anyways ill try that and report back
By the way: I'm on 3 network in Denmark.
i have used mtty and flashed artemis 5.0 with radio 2.06 as the rom recommends
have had some connection dropouts still although less common
what i have found though is that in connection setup, right click and click on update database, equip the new settings
not minimizing opera seems to keep the internet from dropping out too
Just a few days ago my phone started to turn off the data connection when it went into standby. I did not change any settings or install any new software on the phone (in other words I did not change the way I use the phone). After some troubleshooting I figured out this only happened when I had the wifi turned on. Strangely this never occurred before.
I have contacted both TMO US and HTC and ultimately I was told to do a hard reset on the phone. The frequency of performing a hard reset (this is the about the third time in just over a month, and the phone has been replaced once already) is starting to concern me since I don't want to have to do this every couple weeks. Does anyone have any insight on what might be going on?
On a side note (this point might or might not be related, hopefully the more experienced crowd here can help me) when I had my phone replaced this new one would give me the low battery warning when the battery was at 25%, the first phone did this at 10% if I remember correctly. I believe it starts turning off the data at that point to save battery life. I haven't been getting the early warning since after the first week or so but could there be some underlying/related problem?
Thanks in advance for any help.
PS: I did a search and found threads discussing internet connection cutting out but that didn't seem to be the same problem. If there is another thread already started sorry I missed it.
hi all,
i have my TD2 now for some months and it already happened several times that it reboots automatically. Not just once, but several times in a row and after 4, 5 or more reboots it comes to the screen to input the pin...
I do not know how this is triggered but it is very annoying!
I use WM6.5 and some user programs like TD2 Tools (2d), MobiReg, NaviComputer, KeePass, Free42 Decimal,...
The TD2 Tools info screen gives: ROM 2.16.404., Manila 2.1.19193517.2, OS Kernel version 5.2.21869
Is this problem known to anybody? Looking forward to your advice!
Not sure what the cause could be but a hard reset mey be the only fix.
Hi,
After 13 months, I'm now getting this spontaneous rebooting for about 4 times on the trot. It can happen mid-call or just whilst it's sat syncing with my PC. The reboot always seems to happen about 10 seconds after Sense has started.
I am on Stock WWE HTC 2.53 and Radio as per below. I haven't changed anything recently but this started happening yesterday. I did think it was connected with my SD card but I've swapped it for another good one of different capacity and no go either.
I have also tried a hard reset. This didn't fix it either as the rebooting started again after about 10 mins. All I had done was reached setting up a partnership and syncing.
I'm worried that my hardware may be damaged, though I don't understand how.
Really worried now.
John
PS My Diamond2 has just rebooted 4 times whilst I type this and it's connected via USB.
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Hi,
After 13 months, I'm now getting this spontaneous rebooting for about 4 times on the trot. It can happen mid-call or just whilst it's sat syncing with my PC. The reboot always seems to happen about 10 seconds after Sense has started.
I am on Stock WWE HTC 2.53 and Radio as per below. I haven't changed anything recently but this started happening yesterday. I did think it was connected with my SD card but I've swapped it for another good one of different capacity and no go either.
I have also tried a hard reset. This didn't fix it either as the rebooting started again after about 10 mins. All I had done was reached setting up a partnership and syncing.
I'm worried that my hardware may be damaged, though I don't understand how.
Really worried now.
John
PS My Diamond2 has just rebooted 4 times whilst I type this and it's connected via USB.
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I'd have to say that if you've hard reset and are on stock ROM, it would definitely indicate a hardware issue, as if something was triggering the soft reset button. Has the device gotten wet or anything?
Thanks for the reply. No not got wet or anything out of the ordinary. It started just last night whilst it had been sat for about 6 hours plugged into the HTC mains charger.
Looking at it more closely, it seems to happen 5 seconds after the data connection comes up. I guess Sense is checking the weather.
It has done 10 reboots now consecutively but every now and then it just seems to behave. This morning it was fine whilst I was out but it has been having rebooting episodes ever since I go home.
Oh well, I'll wait and see for a while and then panic. No money and the warranty won't be much use after a year........ Hmmmmm going to find the paperwork to check what the warranty actually is.
John
japester36 said:
Thanks for the reply. No not got wet or anything out of the ordinary. It started just last night whilst it had been sat for about 6 hours plugged into the HTC mains charger.
Looking at it more closely, it seems to happen 5 seconds after the data connection comes up. I guess Sense is checking the weather.
It has done 10 reboots now consecutively but every now and then it just seems to behave. This morning it was fine whilst I was out but it has been having rebooting episodes ever since I go home.
Oh well, I'll wait and see for a while and then panic. No money and the warranty won't be much use after a year........ Hmmmmm going to find the paperwork to check what the warranty actually is.
John
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Try removing your cities in your weather tab and maybe play with your network settings in Phone\Menu\Band
Amazing! I was just about to post that switching to GSM only had stopped the rebooting.
This could only be temporary as I use a lot of HSDPA speed data. I decided to reflash the radio and now it seems fine on 3G. I'll keep an eye on it and report back in 24 hours.
I was thinking back to yesterday. There was a time when the wall charger was unplugged from the wall socket before removing the usb connector from my phone. Could that have caused a spike?
Thanks Bruce for taking an interest and the helpful advice.
Cheers
John
PS Cautiously happy now
japester36 said:
Amazing! I was just about to post that switching to GSM only had stopped the rebooting.
This could only be temporary as I use a lot of HSDPA speed data. I decided to reflash the radio and now it seems fine on 3G. I'll keep an eye on it and report back in 24 hours.
I was thinking back to yesterday. There was a time when the wall charger was unplugged from the wall socket before removing the usb connector from my phone. Could that have caused a spike?
Thanks Bruce for taking an interest and the helpful advice.
Cheers
John
PS Cautiously happy now
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It is possible but likely that caused a spike. Shouldn't matter which gets plugged in first, USB or charger.
Hopefully the issue is gone now.
Good luck.
Well, sadly, I spoke too soon.
It was fine all last evening with no reboots and frequent use on 3G.
This morning, after a sitting on standby for 9 hours, it started rebooting as soon as I turned it on to check email. Of course this was where it started downloading the weather as well as email etc.
The switch to GSM stopped it rebooting again, so I now need to confirm this is stable over time and then try further combinations of weather on/off and or older radios. Basically, I'll try anything as I have no choice right now and need the phone, email, web and satnav combination.
My wife has offered to sacrifice her shiny new Blackberry but she has finally joined the mobile email/web brigade and I don't want her to go back to a plain GSM phone. Plus, all my windows software would be written off before I'm ready to do that.
I'll report back if the situation improves although I think it's not going to get any better.
John
Just an update in case it helps anyone else.
On GSM with GPRS data I have had no reboots but shortly after switching to 3G, I end up in the reboot loop.
I have tried new ROM, new radio ROM and new T-Mobile settings. Still the same.
I shall now wait out my contract using GSM until December, at least I can use WiFi at home. I'll then change to something new........ Android, WP7 or even Blackberry!
Thanks for the help. 10ish years of MS pda's have been fun and I've enjoyed playing with ROMs and software but maybe it's time to switch.
John
So, you've flashed back to your stock ROM and with nothing else installed, the rebooting still occurs? Is the stcok ROM pulled from HTC via your S/N?
Progress????
Hi Bruce,
Yes, I have downloaded and tried the original 6.5 ROM and Radio from T-Mobile with the same rebooting problem. Furthermore, I tried some other ROMs before reverting back to the HTC 2.53 WWE - all with the rebooting problem on 3G.
HOWEVER, in doing all this, I noticed it rebooted specifically when the weather connected and downloaded an update. This would happen either manually or automatically.
I have now found that turning Weather updates to manual stops the rebooting UNLESS I actually do a manual update and then it will reboot.
Now, for completeness, I have reverted to the T-Mo 6.5 ROM again and proven that the reboot occurs when the weather is updated either automatically or manually.
This is so confusing as I am effectively replacing ALL the software with a new ROM and Radio but this problem now starts to feel like it is software. Does the weather update do something special on 3G? Something that browsing, Google Maps, email, stocks etc doe not do?
Well, at least I now have 3G...... just no Weather............. SOOOO confusing.
Thanks
John
That is strange. Weather would use the same connection type, just hits a different server.
Also, a typical weather error would only cause Manila to restart or fail to load, not the phone itself.
Flashing the stock ROM would initiate an MTTY Task 29 command that would wipe your flash drive eliminating the possiblility of reminence of a previous flash.
This has me baffled as well.
I found a couple of posts from other devices and it appears to be caused by a bad chip...
In my opinion this could be 'the beginning of the end' of the radio chip. My old Mio A701 did almost the same (not reboot but sometimes freeze) and finally it did not recognized any network and any sim-card; several ROMs tested.
Now it stays in my old car for GPS functions.
But maybe you are more lucky than me...
Bruce Inman said:
I found a couple of posts from other devices and it appears to be caused by a bad chip...
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I've found similar on the Desire and HD2 forums too and was wondering if it could be related.
I'm still fine on 3G with no Weather refresh but checked this morning before going out, that actually performing a refresh did still cause a reboot.... and it did.
On arriving at my destination, 20 miles away, I tried the same refresh and it was fine.
At this point, I was starting to think it may be related to location services and my D2 is checking on it's whereabouts (with cell towers, etc) before downloading the local weather.
Interestingly, my home village, where ALL reboots have happened, does have much stronger signal now due to a very recent new cell tower. It was always 3G but now I get all bars all the time and higher bandwidth.
Now just come home, retested and it's fine! Auto Weather updates on 3G, Google Maps, etc...........
I'll keep a watch and let you know what happens next, I'm sure it's only a temporary respite!
Thanks again
John
Almost same problem with mine diamond2. Only most rarely. Sometimes it reboots once in week, sometimes once a day. I couldn't find any situation manually which causes reboot.
japester36 said:
I've found similar on the Desire and HD2 forums too and was wondering if it could be related.
I'm still fine on 3G with no Weather refresh but checked this morning before going out, that actually performing a refresh did still cause a reboot.... and it did.
On arriving at my destination, 20 miles away, I tried the same refresh and it was fine.
At this point, I was starting to think it may be related to location services and my D2 is checking on it's whereabouts (with cell towers, etc) before downloading the local weather.
Interestingly, my home village, where ALL reboots have happened, does have much stronger signal now due to a very recent new cell tower. It was always 3G but now I get all bars all the time and higher bandwidth.
Now just come home, retested and it's fine! Auto Weather updates on 3G, Google Maps, etc...........
I'll keep a watch and let you know what happens next, I'm sure it's only a temporary respite!
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Since this episode of getting my Diamond2 back to working on 3G with no reboots and everything switched back on for downloading the weather etc, it has not rebooted once in 10 days.
I'm very happy that it seems to be behaving properly.
Anyway, just a quick update from a now happy again D2 user.
Cheers
John
Basically, first things first, if there are any Vodafone users in the UK that uses their time servers, can you tell me if you are getting the correct time? Because when I select it, it's always 2 weeks behind for some reason.
Secondly, whenever I pull my battery (for whatever reason), doesn't matter if it's WP7, Android etc, my clock messes up and I need to re-adjust my time and dates.
Just wondering if anyone else had this problem?
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Basically, first things first, if there are any Vodafone users in the UK that uses their time servers, can you tell me if you are getting the correct time? Because when I select it, it's always 2 weeks behind for some reason.
Secondly, whenever I pull my battery (for whatever reason), doesn't matter if it's WP7, Android etc, my clock messes up and I need to re-adjust my time and dates.
Just wondering if anyone else had this problem?
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hi..... i have the same problem like yours.... in andoid or wp7... i´m not using wm6.5
and for now... set time to automatic doesn´t work. if i set the time manually it setup manually after freezes or restarts...
sorry i have no solution for this...
same issue... the time does not "re-sync".
noticed that if I have it connected / plugged in when I remove the battery (to change the SIM) the issues does not happen.
sorry, no solution
turn off the automatic time from the carrier