HTC Evo 4G vs Nexus S 4G---Speed test - EVO 4G General

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXRsR6EAONs&feature=player_embedded
smh...smh..smh

Doesn't the actual speedtest app have flawed results anyway? There was another speed test that people used, but I can't think of it. But if the results are real, I'm not surprised. The Epic has slower results than the Evo as well.

Doesn't surprise me. I just swapped out my NS4G for a white Evo. The Evo is performing much better for me. If they come up with a fix shortly I'll probably switch back or hope the Evo 3D comes out by June 10th to be within my 30 days at BB. I just switched to Sprint and would rather not start out a contract with almost a yr old device. I will say that the Evo is still a very competitive phone after a year which says a ton about what a kick ass device it is.

vbetts said:
Doesn't the actual speedtest app have flawed results anyway? There was another speed test that people used, but I can't think of it. But if the results are real, I'm not surprised. The Epic has slower results than the Evo as well.
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I ran that app along another Android phone, an iPad, iPhone 4 and a laptop getting wifi speeds.
The Nexus S 4G registered about half the speeds that the other devices were showing. Something is up with those radios.

vbetts said:
Doesn't the actual speedtest app have flawed results anyway? There was another speed test that people used, but I can't think of it. But if the results are real, I'm not surprised. The Epic has slower results than the Evo as well.
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Alot of it depends on which server you are using but the net version uss supposed to be more accurate
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Luckily its a Nexus device, expect a update in about 1/10 of the time it'd take the EVO 4G or 3D.
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Well, Samsung is known for messed up radios.(Moment)

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Well, Samsung is known for messed up radios.(Moment)
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Don't forget about the Galaxy S series.

iitreatedii said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXRsR6EAONs&feature=player_embedded
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yeah, this is all the rage right now.
Apparently these phones suck.
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/17/nexus-s-4g-having-reception-issues/
It was perfect timing for the asshat that was in here yesterday spamming the gen board about how we "need to get your minds rite" [sic], and "upgrade" to the nexus4g, because some other asshat is "deving" for it now.
super screw that.

It probably was slower because of that crappy music in the background.

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Luckily its a Nexus device, expect a update in about 1/10 of the time it'd take the EVO 4G or 3D.
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Unluckily its also a Samsung device.....nuff said
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Don't forget about the Galaxy S series.
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The radios in the Galaxy S series actually work lawlz. The hardware and the software for the radio in the Moment were so terrible, that it would lock up and you would have to restart the damn thing to get service again. This was a common issue with the Moment, and Samsung's "fix" for this was to tell people to upgrade to the Intercept! A more slim line device with the same chipset, but smaller resolution screen and a slower 3g radio. Big reason the radio locked up, is because the Moment was literally the Galaxy Spica with a cdma radio inside of it, and a keyboard.

Funny, I noticed this when I went to the Sprint store and ran a random comparison speed test to my Evo, side by side. My Evo pulled around 7mb while the Nexus only about 3.

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The radios in the Galaxy S series actually work lawlz. The hardware and the software for the radio in the Moment were so terrible, that it would lock up and you would have to restart the damn thing to get service again. This was a common issue with the Moment, and Samsung's "fix" for this was to tell people to upgrade to the Intercept! A more slim line device with the same chipset, but smaller resolution screen and a slower 3g radio. Big reason the radio locked up, is because the Moment was literally the Galaxy Spica with a cdma radio inside of it, and a keyboard.
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Wasn't the GPS radio effed in the Galaxy?

Im returning my Nexus S for this exact reason, I am also preordering the Evo 3D, I came to find out that it can display 16m colors much as the nexus can.

Ha! Sounds like we are in almost the same situation. I ended up getting rid of my NS (after five of them) on T-Mobile and switched to Sprint with the Evo. I was hesitant to start a contract on such an "old" phone, but I have to say that Evo is the best phone I've owned to date and I'm in no hurry to upgrade. After suffering through several miserable launch day phone experiences in the last year, I am very happy to be on version 4 hardware combined with a ridiculous amount of development I've barely started to get into. Running CM7+LP+GO Dialer/Contacts = perfect for me.
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Doesn't surprise me. I just swapped out my NS4G for a white Evo. The Evo is performing much better for me. If they come up with a fix shortly I'll probably switch back or hope the Evo 3D comes out by June 10th to be within my 30 days at BB. I just switched to Sprint and would rather not start out a contract with almost a yr old device. I will say that the Evo is still a very competitive phone after a year which says a ton about what a kick ass device it is.
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Wasn't the GPS radio effed in the Galaxy?
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It was also handled with software updates to actually work, not work well though lawlz.

Its funny how some of these people defend Samsung like a battered housewife will defend her dunk abusive husband.

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Its funny how some of these people defend Samsung like a battered housewife will defend her dunk abusive husband.
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No one is really trying to defend them here...
But Samsung phones are pretty nice phones, good hardware and build too. They're nice, when they actually work. Thankfully, the SII seems to be the phone that Samsung is not only stepping up on software support like they did with the Galaxy S release(But not Samsung US), but hardware support as well. The Infuse radio works as intended to work(Though not an SII device), and the SII didn't have any real hardware issues like gps like the S did.

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Unluckily its also a Samsung device.....nuff said
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I honestly don't understand this. Have you owned a Samsung device within the last year or are you referring to posts you've seen in forums and online. I feel like Samsung takes way more of a beating then they deserve. In past times their phones might not have been the greatest, but it is my honest opinion that within the last year and a half they are beginning to make a complete turn around and build a well earned reputation. Currently they are producing and putting out a plethora of well specced and software updated devices that are capable of competing among the best in the game. Look at the screen tech they are developing. Word on the street is they have a prototype of a mobile screen with a higher ppi then apples retina display. Have you seen the retina display? Im no apple fan boy but its gorgeous, I have to take a magnifying glass to it to identify a pixel. The point is, it is time we let go of our ancient views of samsung and give them another chance, theyve made a come back into the game and very deservedly so.

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I ditched the epic.

This is not a bash thread. I owned the epic for roughly 4 months. It is a very good phone. Reason I dropped it was due to it felt cheap. The phone was pretty loose concerning the slider. Also I never used the keyboard. The amoled screen is nice but I needed a bigger screen. So I switched to the evo. And from what I can tell during normal everyday use is that its just as fast. I don't game and I know the epic is better for gaming. I still think the epic is a damn good phone. Just sharing my experience. Also even with gps turned on so far the battery life on the evo is a little bit better. It does not get hot during web browsing like the epic did.
Im still here though. Been here since the epic launched and still glad to try to help other if they need it.
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My only complaint with Samsung is the software. They make awesome hardware, though. I think they do it on purpose because if they matched a software engineer to eke out everything from the hardware, you wouldn't really care about buying a new phone so much.
Even though Samsung sucks at supporting their Products, it'll be hard to go to any inferior screen.
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This is not a bash thread. I owned the epic for roughly 4 months. It is a very good phone. Reason I dropped it was due to it felt cheap. The phone was pretty loose concerning the slider. Also I never used the keyboard. The amoled screen is nice but I needed a bigger screen. So I switched to the evo. And from what I can tell during normal everyday use is that its just as fast. I don't game and I know the epic is better for gaming. I still think the epic is a damn good phone. Just sharing my experience. Also even with gps turned on so far the battery life on the evo is a little bit better. It does not get hot during web browsing like the epic did.
Im still here though. Been here since the epic launched and still glad to try to help other if they need it.
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Not sure how you can get better battery life on a stock EVO. The hardware in the Epic is simply more power efficient than the EVO, it's a fact.
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Love the epic...agree the slider mech sux....
Ive never seen a problem with the sliding mech. Matter a fact I also have a moment and the intercept and those mechs are fine as well. I don't see how they're bad.
Anyway At this point jumping to the Evo isn't a bad idea at all if you want to. All of this "Epic is just a better machine" means squat when it's not even updated with an official Froyo yet. It's like having the most advanced yatch in a desert.
I for one love my epic but the second something esle comes along. I think i'll be leaving myself. Unless the device that comes along is also made by samsung. Then no thanks.
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Not sure how you can get better battery life on a stock EVO. The hardware in the Epic is simply more power efficient than the EVO, it's a fact.
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Well stock 2.2 battery life so far is great. Stock for stock there pretty close honestly. The epics display eats a ton of battery.
Also another thing I am noticing. On the epic I used roam control due to no sprint signal at work. If I left it on automatic the epic would lose signal, the radio would then reset itself 2 times before it would go to roam. So I used roam control to just roam only. On the evo it seemlessly switches between home and roam without completely losing the radio.
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No it doesn't. Its actually much more efficient than the Evo's.
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I for one love my epic but the second something esle comes along. I think i'll be leaving myself. Unless the device that comes along is also made by samsung. Then no thanks.
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Agreed. The Tegra 2 LG Optimus looks pretty appealing, if it gets the advertised battery life. Wonder if it'll come out for Sprint.
That said, I do play some Super Mario now & then on the Epic. The keyboard + Game Gripper is nice for that. I can't do the screen controls, too slow.
I love the Epic to death, but Samsung support sucks.
To the person mentioning switching ... HTC shift.
I know a few buddies who went from the epic to the Evo. Both good devices. Sprint kind of limited.
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Evos a great phone. I had both the epic and the evo, switched back and forth for awhile before deciding in the Epic. The epic IMO is quicker, but the development on the Evo may have changed that by now, idk. I will say that my evo always had better battery life than my epic. Same apps and same usage, both with the Evo on 2.1 and 2.2. Battery isnt a big deal to me personally tho since I always keep a spare battery. Enjoy your Evo. I personally miss the development compared to the epic, but im hopeful that that will changer soon. If you end up not liking it, sell it. I sold mine for twice what I paid. My wife just sold her second evo for $550 cash off craigslist.
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I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).
Whoa.... Vibrant got an official update? I didn't see anything on those forums...
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I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).
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I haven't seen anything about the Vibrant getting official Froyo today...Do you have a link
The epic is my first samsung. I always have HTC from the ppc 6700 to the evo. I switched from the evo. Even tho I do agree the epic feel's cheap, but it does have better hardware than the evo.
Deal breaker for me was the camera, I was Surprised how crappy the evo was to take pic's, but at least the epic sux's less, it's actually pretty good.
Development is slower, but it's still gets plenty of love. I for one don't plan on flashing every other day.
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I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).
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If its the release that I think your speaking of. It was for T-Mobile (UK) not T-Mobile (USA). I thought the same thing once I read about it, but read more and its for the UK.
I have both the Epic and the EVO. I love both phones, but I like the EVO a bit better. I'm sure my reasoning is totally different from others (as expected). I would love to compare the two with 2.2, but for obvious reason I cannot. I'm VERY tempted on rooting my Epic finally. Battery life (for me, as I cant speak for others) have been great on both. But again, everyone has their different uses on their phones.
Well imop, I wouldn't of down graded... When they come out with a better phone damn near every 6 months. I would've stuck with the Epic till something better came out ( like the dual processor ) thats coming... But if you got-it like that just to buy 500 dollar phones because it feel cheesy ( And I agree ) then you made the right decison...
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Well imop, I wouldn't of down graded... When they come out with a better phone damn near every 6 months. I would've stuck with the Epic till something better came out ( like the dual processor ) thats coming... But if you got-it like that just to buy 500 dollar phones because it feel cheesy ( And I agree ) then you made the right decison...
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But in reality 500 bucks for a phone like Epic isn't bad at all. Us American just got used to super subsidized phones...
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In my opinion, I think the Epic is a great phone, the only complaint I would make is the battery life. Then again I use my phone constantly and run many tasks at the same time, but I'm sure emulators don't help either lol. As for the slider, that made all the difference when debating on buying an epic or evo. Even if it is a little loose the qwerty is almost perfectly spaced and is probably the best one i have used on any phone (and I have gone through a lot). As for the software we all knew that Samsung sucked at providing it, but thanks to hard working people there are plenty of ways to get the newest android versions through ROMs which don't take too much work to use.
Personally I don't plan on changing my epic until it can no longer support newer android versions, but that's just me
Here is the link, 1 of out of 2 I saw today for T mobile customers getting Froyo for their Galaxy S phones.
http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20101201/froyo-comes-to-t-mobiles-samsung-galaxy-s-users/

Possibly buying a Fascinate

Well, I was going to buy one of the new 4G phones because as it was rumored the Thunderbolt was supposed to be available this weekend.. but it is not to be I suppose SOOO..
I'm looking to buy a Fascinate off contract in order to save my upgrade.
Just wondering if there is anything I should know? I have an Incredible and I know depending on your model number it's either AMOLED or SLCD. Now I know all Fascinates are SAMOLED, but I was just using that as an example of something I would need to know if I was buying an Incredible.. if that makes any sense at all.
Thanks for your time
As far as I know there are no differences in the fascinates out here beyond best buys unique white model.
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Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!
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Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!
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And I guess the iPhone is so much more than a phone without applications to spruce it up Once again, stop trolling here. You have 20 posts and none of them have something besides bashing the Fascinate or Android.
Just another jealous Icrap fanboy who has nothing better to do than hang out in here...Get a life and a real PHONE!
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Hands down, better than the Incredible.
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If you're going to end up upgrading to a 4G phone soon after you buy the Fascinate, then why get it at all? It's just a waste of money when you already have an Incredible. Just wait for a good phone to come out.
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Yeah, if I hadn't just gotten the Fascinate I would probably prefer to wait for the i520. The new SAMOLED+ looks even more amazing than SAMOLED, and I'm probably one of the few who wishes the Fascinate had a bigger screen.
I have a fascinate and an incredible right now. The fascinate is better hardware wise. The only thing keeping me on the incredible is cyanogen.
The fascinate is STILL stuck on 2.1 and while it performs well it still feels like it's missing something. I also miss the track ball and the camera of the incredible. And the name is much better IMO
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Just wait for the new 4.3 inch beast phones coming out for Verizon right now.
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Dizfunky said:
If you're going to end up upgrading to a 4G phone soon after you buy the Fascinate, then why get it at all? It's just a waste of money when you already have an Incredible. Just wait for a good phone to come out.
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Well I can get a Fascinate for cheap without wasting my upgrade since a friend has it, and we need another phone in the family since my sister broke her original droid (it held up admirably for a good while).
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Just wait for the new 4.3 inch beast phones coming out for Verizon right now.
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None of the new phones introduced at CES will be released for several months...
Last I heard, the HTC Thunderbolt, an LTE phone, was going to be released later this month. I could be wrong though.
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Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!
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Why do you even come to these forums?
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Last I heard, the HTC Thunderbolt, an LTE phone, was going to be released later this month. I could be wrong though.
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At the press conference today they mentioned that all of the ten new devices they showed will be available the first half of the year, and "some as early as March"... So we are probably looking at April-May-June for most LTE devices
Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.
Your opinion does not make fact.
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Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.
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However, his question was not about which overall phone he should get. Just if there were anything specific to know about within the Fascinate family.
As for your opinion, its just that, you're personal opinion that only fits you. You were used to an iPhone and the apps you had. You got a completely different product that you are less happy with because you probably can't find the same apps or ones that worked comparably to what you had. Does that mean its automatically inferior, no, we as humans are just habitual and dislike change.
As for hardware, yeah, the iPhone's front camera and Apple's specific image software to tip the scales for the iPhone4 over the Fascinate. However, the EVO 4G easily bests the iPhone4.
If he were to wait on a different phone, he should do as others said and keep the Incredible and wait until later this year when a slew of LTE phones drop that ALL destroy iPhone4 and probably 5 as it will not be 4G.
As for iOS vs Android, meh, personal opinion. I like Android better as a techy guy and love the better inclusion of Google products. Again, we humans are habitual and my short stints with friends iPhones really don't do much.
For me, I'll stick with a far more open option that is rapidly surpassing anything iDevice has offered. Plus, I can create my own apps for free and without having to buy a Mac.
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Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.
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It's not about anger or hostility.
If you don't like this phone, why don't you go bug those people on the iphone forums. It just makes very little sense for you to come here and talk trash.
Didnt mean to talk trash guys. Wasnt my intention.

Do you still hate Samsung?

Samsung sent its base 2.2 upgrade to T-Mobile in late November
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According to wikipedia "On 20 May 2010, the 2.2 (Froyo) SDK was released." Thats about 6 months for Samsung. Not too bad in my opinion. Def hate t-mobile though, always will. lol.
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November citation: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376045,00.asp
froyo release date: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Update_history
YES, still never purchasing another Samsung product.
Oddly I'm the opposite of the OP. I've been with T-Mo for 11+ years and been pretty happy with them overall. Having had HTC phones in the past, I will probably look at their next offering when I'm eligible for an update. While I love that the Vibrant has been so easy to mod, they've left a bad taste in my mouth.
Don't hate them, but I will most likely not be buying anything from them again.
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I do still hate them. I don't actually have froyo yet so they are still lying lol.
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Yeah i dont hate them but I will probably not buy another phone from them. I am eyeballing the LG Optimus 2X....
Of course I do, I don't have official froyo, so there still BSing ;]
Anywho, I don't like Tmobile, Samsung is Alright.
I wouldn't buy another Samsung phone that left them solely in charge of the updates. I actually do like T-Mobile though. Don't mind the 5gb cap either since I've began only using wifi in my appartment my usage has gone down from nearly 6gb a month to around 1gb.
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I feel like they were mostly wrong about the gps. They should of came out and said they made a mistake and did a recall. Not to compare Apples to Oranges, but when Apple had the antenna problem at least they found a solution and gave out free bumpers/cases to help the issue. Samsung till this day has never said anything about the gps, at least not to my knowledge. Then they brag about how the Galaxy S line is such a success in sales, but we're just about the only high end Android device that's not on 2.2. It does not make sense to me. I definitely must say that I love the hardware minus the gps.
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According to wikipedia "On 20 May 2010, the 2.2 (Froyo) SDK was released." Thats about 6 months for Samsung. Not too bad in my opinion. Def hate t-mobile though, always will. lol.
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So you cite wikipedia for your Froyo information, but you don't cite the original quote in the thread?
Citation pls.
I don't hate Samsung, I just don't trust them - Just look at their track record. Will look hard at HTC or Moto at upgrade time - Depends on what is out but Samsung products will be out of the question. Once bitten, twice shy...
Been with T-Mo a long time - Have a sweet deal on my plan for 4 phones...
No source code for anything yet = still hate Samsung.
I do not trust Samsung and do not intend to purchase them again. I will be leaning toward the LG Optimus 2X or the LG Black. The only way I would want to buy Samsung again is if they have a dual core Nexus S2 with vanilla android and external sd card and Google is in charge of the updates etc. I am also very interested in the LG 4G tablet coming to T Mobile.
I guess I'm in the minority -- I have no issues w/Samsung and have been pretty happy w/my Vibrant. Yes, 2.2 has taken an awfully long time...but I always knew I could flash it if I really wanted/needed something in 2.2 -- and ultimately, I did.
Seems to me the only phones that don't go through this are the official dev phones (Nexus); why, I still remember when T-Mobile was hinting that 2.x would come to the G1.
I would definitely buy another Samsung.
Will never buy another Samsung phone. Love T-Mobile though. Next phone will be an HTC.
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I feel like they were mostly wrong about the gps. They should of came out and said they made a mistake and did a recall. Not to compare Apples to Oranges, but when Apple had the antenna problem at least they found a solution and gave out free bumpers/cases to help the issue. Samsung till this day has never said anything about the gps, at least not to my knowledge. Then they brag about how the Galaxy S line is such a success in sales, but we're just about the only high end Android device that's not on 2.2. It does not make sense to me. I definitely must say that I love the hardware minus the gps.
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Um sorry sir you are sadly mistaken, Apple used the bumpers as a cover up. Don't get me wrong i love Apple but they said there was nothing wrong with their antennas as well. So they are just as "wrong as samsung"
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I won't be buying another Samsung phone, even if the next one comes with a 10MP Camera, 1.4GHz Processor, 1GB of RAM and a 4.5" screen. I don't trust them anymore. I also have mixed feelings about T-Mobile.. I've been with them for 7 years...
Still hate samsung even if we go receive 2.2, I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANOTHER SAMSUNG PHONE!!
I used to hate Samsung, but their smartphone hardware is great (AMOLED baby!).
NS is one of my favorite phone and it has Samsung hardware with Google software.
never have/ will hate them.
They just disappointed me. thats all, but im sure they made it up by this update...

Is anyone waiting for the Samsung Within (Galaxy S2)?

I am debating getting the Samsung Within (Galaxy S2) when it's released and would like to hear your thoughts on it. I have not been a big fan of the Samsung devices in the past but I am intrigued by this one.
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I agree with you on that one. I think its more about being sure you get the right phone to have for the next 22 months. It's like getting married, you don't wanna make the wrong choice cause its gonna be a while. My biggest concern is data reception. My friend got a nexus s and couldn't connect to 4g when I had 2 bars of 4g standing right next to him. Also, all of the samoled screens I've seen have a color tint to them so I don't know if samoled+ will be any different.
I'm wondering about the tinted screen myself. I hadn't heard about the 4g issue. I always research my future phones but sometimes you just don't know about it till you get it.
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Well I've had one samsung phone, and it was beast, it was the 'smart phone' of its day before smart phones as we know rule the playground. Never had a bad experience, and this one has the hardware to match the software; as I recall [could be wrong] samsung wasn't going to lock the bootloader so it should be rooted, potentialy quickly, and as that phone has the hardware, I believe it'll have more support than the notorious Epic. Also have a samsung 32" LED TV, amazing quality, and I think this phone is worth picking up, and if you don't like it, return it within the 30 days.
teh roxxorz said:
Well I've had one samsung phone, and it was beast, it was the 'smart phone' of its day before smart phones as we know rule the playground. Never had a bad experience, and this one has the hardware to match the software; as I recall [could be wrong] samsung wasn't going to lock the bootloader so it should be rooted, potentialy quickly, and as that phone has the hardware, I believe it'll have more support than the notorious Epic. Also have a samsung 32" LED TV, amazing quality, and I think this phone is worth picking up, and if you don't like it, return it within the 30 days.
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I have heard that the bootloader would be unlocked as well. That is another thing that makes me lean towards getting this. Hardware wise it looks pretty good.
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As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.
i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!
meeklo062704 said:
As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.
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I am an HTC man myself. I hope that they dont add the physical keyboard to it. Just a personal preference. I think I'm going to make the jump when it comes out, that is when my wife gives me the money lol.
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drdrewdown said:
i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!
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Sweet, I would love to have CM7 waiting for it.
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firemedic624 said:
I am an HTC man myself. I hope that they dont add the physical keyboard to it. Just a personal preference. I think I'm going to make the jump when it comes out, that is when my wife gives me the money lol.
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It's all about how you close the deal. My wife has a crap hero (no offense to hero owners, hers just sucks). So I told her I would go through asurion for a new evo since mine has some water damage, then I would let her have it after I upgrade to the 3d or galaxy s2. That way she could have a brand new evo until her upgrade comes in November. Not only is she bugging me to upgrade, but she thinks I'm a genius. Marriage, at times, is all about negotiation. As far as the hardware keyboard, I miss my touch pro 2 keyboard. I don't mind the thickness of the phone, and it made texting a bit easier sometimes. Also, remapping keys for shortcuts was a bonus too.
meeklo062704 said:
As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.
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If they give that beautiful phone a keyboard, I may cry.
teh roxxorz said:
If they give that beautiful phone a keyboard, I may cry.
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exact thought i had, although they cannot be that stupid. according to leaked rumors & ****, Sprint WILL have another keyboarded phone, but supposedly it wont be the "Samsung Within" aka the SGS2
I am also waiting to see what else comes out this month.I'm not really interested in the 3d but am keeping my eye on the rumored within
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drdrewdown said:
i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!
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Those were GSM phones and won't help any type of development for any phone coming to sprint. Sorry.
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What do you guys think about the rumored Epic 2???
jm5503 said:
What do you guys think about the rumored Epic 2???
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I haven't heard anything about it yet.
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The s2 is supposed to be out at the end of the month. I'm kind of surprised there haven't been any leaked pictures of the sprint branded s2 (within). They seem to be keeping a pretty tight lid on it so far.
I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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josh995 said:
I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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Its the Evo 3D, without the 3D; same battery, has the evo's 8MP camera, Evo 3D hardware and software.
josh995 said:
I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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EVO 4G+ is not coming to Sprint.
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Samsung Within vs HTC Evo 3D

I'm trying to decide between the HTC Evo 3D and the Samsung Within which is Sprint's version of the Galaxy S2. I figure Epic users would have some good insight on how the Within might turn out.
The one big knock on the Galaxy S2 I keep hearing is Samsung's lack of support and updates when compared to HTC.
Is this something that has really been problematic for Epic owners and do you think it will be a big issue with the Within?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
There are a couple threads on this question, so a quick search will bring up several lengthy discussion to help with your choice
For the most part, I would say go with the S2
IMO, the hardware specs are a lot better, but the main reason, the one that trumps all others, at least at this time IMO, is the locked bootloader on the EVO 3D that blocks advanced modding of the phone
This is supposd to change, but until it does, you should stay away from the EVO 3D
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The GS2 stomps all over the Evo 3D. I saw one at the Sprint store and I was not impressed.
S2. Plus its completely unlocked.
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons
S2 we have odin
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S2 WiThin is the best upcoming phone to come to sprint, that we know about at this point in time.
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Photon is a good choice too. I'd probably pick the GS2 tho. Better Processor, Better Screen, unlocked bootloader. No crappy 3d, which I know you don't have to use it but still. 3d is horrible. It reminds me of those 3d greeting cards with the weird plastic.
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It reminds me of those 3d greeting cards with the weird plastic.
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Me too, it hurt my eyes to look at the one in the store.
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There were some articles floating around today saying the US GS2 devices may not even come at this point or could be heavily delayed. Lack of carrier interest based on other competitive devices or something like that.
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There were some articles floating around today saying the US GS2 devices may not even come at this point or could be heavily delayed. Lack of carrier interest based on other competitive devices or something like that.
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I find that hard to believe, considering the S2 has been Samsung's best selling phone ever, so far.
clankfu said:
I'm trying to decide between the HTC Evo 3D and the Samsung Within which is Sprint's version of the Galaxy S2. I figure Epic users would have some good insight on how the Within might turn out.
The one big knock on the Galaxy S2 I keep hearing is Samsung's lack of support and updates when compared to HTC.
Is this something that has really been problematic for Epic owners and do you think it will be a big issue with the Within?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Hands down the Within will smash the Evo 3D
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I find that hard to believe, considering the S2 has been Samsung's best selling phone ever, so far.
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Yeah, it seems crazy to me... I'll dig up links, running around the office at the moment.
It was something about when the GS1 came out there was significantly less competition on that level but now everyone and their Mom has that level of phone out or coming out and Samsung sucks for CDMA.
Obviously that's not my opinion and I am paraphrasing, lol.
Here's one: http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...h-delay-down-to-carrier-disinterest-20110708/
I'd buy the Within simply for the fact that it has either 16 or 32gb of built in storage plus the micro SD support of up to 32gb. 64 potential gigs of storage is pretty insane
i can has 5 row physical qwerty pls?
austin420 said:
i can has 5 row physical qwerty pls?
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No, shame on you for asking.
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Well, hopefully the whole, “negotiations with American telecom companies have dragged on” part won't drag on for too much longer. But I think if negotiations are still up in the air it doesn't look good for a summer release.
Most reports I have seen, at least for the Within, still peg the release at late July.
Considering the S2 is set to be the most popular smart phone EVER, I find the rumor of phone company disinterest hard to buy into, rumor or no rumor.
But gotta admit, only time will tell.
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Most reports I have seen, at least for the Within, still peg the release at late July.
Considering the S2 is set to be the most popular smart phone EVER, I find the rumor of phone company disinterest hard to buy into, rumor or no rumor.
But gotta admit, only time will tell.
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I certainly hope it's all BS. I am itching for something new.
Let's hope sprint doesn't gimp the s2 the way it did the epic just to make the evo's look good :/
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