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Now the X10 has reached the end of the road and new contract in 6 months do we stick with SE ie X12 Arc. Or what, Would defenitly buy one supported by J,Z and the rest of the team.
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for me, X12(Arc) is overrated.. Is too much for a mobile phone..
I'll stick with my X10 beast.
Your right, love my X10, hate SE. XDA are kings.
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The only advantage of X12 is camera, with XDA you can get the same performance like X12.
Just my opinion.
lol you got to be kidding me right you gonna be suckered into buying another SE product just be screwed over when they release the next phone ?
never again ...
They openly stated that they messed up with the X10 and did not know what peoples prios were. They also said that they have a completely different plan for working with the Arc. If i had they money, i would defenantly get one! It's still the best looking phone with the hands down best camera and gps, 2 things i look for in a device. So dont be so fast in putting SE off.
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lol you got to be kidding me right you gonna be suckered into buying another SE product just be screwed over when they release the next phone ?
never again ...
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We never got screwed at all. Se only promist 2.1 update. They keept all there promis if i dont remember wrong ? Im so sick of all the folks trolling about how mutch the X1 sucks... It not as bad how you want it to be. So se wont update longer as promist, like htc dose it. But its still a good phone. So stop wining !
And i would also go for the arc ( the hd video out is also a nice thing )
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will stick to my x10, disapointed to SE..
I still can't do voice dialing on my X10a despite the update to 2.1. SE keeps forgetting that a smartphone is first and foremost a phone.
I'm currently have my eyes on the upcoming Motorola Atrix 4G.
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will stick to my x10, disapointed to SE..
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I'll stick to XDA, fck SE
the only replacements that come to mind are:
if u into great looking phones : Xperia Arc
if u want poweful phone: LG Optimus X2 / Motorola Atrix / HTC ??? (they will be announcing one based on Terga2 chip at MWC)
Three things I'll be considering on my next Android (not anytime soon)
1. Upgradability
2. Design/Specs
3. XDA Support
The Arc isn't much of an upgrade from the X10 if you ask me. It's too early still. I'm waiting for something that'll blow me away.
Yeah buy the arc and get screwed again and left behind as android versions pass you by..no thanks!
Get htc or lg..should have lots of choice shortly too. Dual core phones are going to be amazing
Love my x10 but hate SE for screwing with us ,
Personally I dont think much oF SE ARC ,
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se promiset update each their model for two years so x10 finishing in autumn of 2011.se finished with x10 earlier [8-9months]as they told to public
I was at a meeting today, the guy next to me had the HTC Evo 4G, looked like a sweet phone, but in the 2 hour meeting the guy had to take the battery out FIVE times because the phone froze on him. In the year I have owned my X10 I have had to do that twice that I can recall. Made me feel pretty good about my trusty x10! Just thought I'd share given all the *****ing about our phone sometimes
That's why I love my phone. Never had any problem with it. Specially now that there's a lot of custom rom out there.
well, after all seems there`s no reason for battery complain
is right where it should be, in battery case
didn`t you tease with the guy? i would!
The X10 is very stable, even with mods.
But the EVO isn't bad, too. Wish they'd sell it here, too. Want at it as my second phone xD
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Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!
Hey guys,
I just sold my HD2 and with the money i bought a brand new x10. I deceided to post a thank-you-all-for-the-support-post at their sub forum and they almost ate me alive. I was called crazy etc, now since i received the brand new package and that i have spent almost 3-4 days of heavy usage i can say honestly the following:
1. From the design point of view the device is awesome, fne and classy.
2. The OS is stable and the harware works just great.
3. From the camera point of view there is not much to compare, actually comparing the cameras of HTC and Sony is pretty insulting i guess.
4. The headphones from the pack are great
So anybody can feel free to diss X10, i can say that the phone is great and i do not regret selling the HD2 for this Sony masterpiece.
I feel sorry for two guys: the owner of the HTC Evo and the guy whom opened a thread asking for opinions about X10, but at the end he will get a Samsung (fa)i(l)Phone Galaxy
F*ck the negativity, f*ck SE's decision, f*ck bootloader, X10 rules!!!
X10 is even cooler than ARC
Hi,
From the design point of view (phone sleeping!) I think that the front-view of X10 is way more balanced than XPERIA ARC. Have you noticed the distance between the top of the screen and the top of the heady phone?
OK, ARC is thin on the side-view but phones do not "walk like the Egyptians"
I would expect that the follow-up on X10 would be something like the attached picture... I love the visual balance of the X10.
Bye,
Alex
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Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!
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Same for me, I dun have such problem after using my X10 compared to my previous HTC devices.
The user experience for X10 is simply great, SE has done a good job.
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I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.
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I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.
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just because U installed custom Rom or didn't update properly. Bad luck for U. But it worth to try that U backup everything ( but no the downloaded from market), hard resest. and try to repair by SEUS. Then if U have 0.24 or 0.435 build, everything shuold work fine
I'm gonna cheat on my X10 with the Arc......does that make me horrible? Lol
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last time i did this with symbian phones
The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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Well I can't not purchase a new phone being affraid of what bugs it might bring right?
I'm certain the arc is alot better than the x10....only time will tell.
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Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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Its simple....because some people actually like/love there X10's (myself included) and I do not care about SE and anything they have said. The boys here at XDA have us covered.
The Arc has everything I want in a smartphone....so why wouldn't I buy it? Its fits my needs better than any HTC, Samsung, Motorolla, etc etc.
I don't care about dual core this and dual core that...I don't care about "retina display"
I don't care about my phone having the highest specs possible when released...because in reality, it will be outdated in a month anyways.
SE never promised or said they would give us 2.2+...they have given us what they said they would (except DLNA...bad bad boys for that)
Anyways, I think you understand what Im trying to say...just because your not happy with SE, doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.
Oh...and don't take anything I said "offensive" or "personal"....I wasn't being rude or aggresive
Just thought Id add that before I start a war lol
Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.
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Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.
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+1 for that my friend. SE ui is extremely nice to look at. And the phone styles they create are excellent. I don't think they will be late with updating anymore. I'm sure they learned....and the hard way....they were blasted from all over the globe lol.
The Arc is launching with the newest android os....so that's one step in the right direction right from the start. But if the arc was launching with even froyo....I'd still be on board to buy this phone. I'm not to picky when it comes to android os versions.....well as long as its not lower than 2.1.
PS. I'm actually using you cm rom v4.1 right now....excellent work man....tho I like your old ui without the arc style better.
Best 2.2 rom I've tried tho.
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I pass from iPhone 4 to X10, no complain about it, only the lack of INSTAGRAM, I also have a Samsung Galaxy tab and Exchange email capability is the only one thing better than X10! Both devices are Telcel now unbranded!
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All the HTC devices get custom roms 2 or 3 days after they are rooted.
Optimus 2x got its first custom rom 24h later
Arc...huhuhu
Really guys if we didn't have the big help of external dev(who haven't the Arc) to let us root the Arc we would still be waiting for it.
I am beginning to be afraid the Arc will not see soon any custom roms, we simply don't have any dev here
I sold the N1 because I trusted the Arc to have roms after its rooted, but I am afraid that even the SGS2 will have one before us...and that really piss me off
Sorry if I look too impatient but after the custom roms experience on N1, I hate to stay with the same rom too long
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All the HTC devices get custom roms 2 or 3 days after they are rooted.
Optimus 2x got its first custom rom 24h later
Arc...huhuhu
Really guys if we didn't have the big help of external dev(who haven't the Arc) to let us root the Arc we would still be waiting for it.
I am beginning to be afraid the Arc will not see soon any custom roms, we simply don't have any dev here
I sold the N1 because I trusted the Arc to have roms after its rooted, but I am afraid that even the SGS2 will have one before us...and that really piss me off
Sorry if I look too impatient but after the custom roms experience on N1, I hate to stay with the same rom too long
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I think you have to forget custom roms for the ARC. there are no devs which is interested in this device. This is actually very sad, i have said this before in another thread and some people think i am crazy.
I mean look at the member views in the dev thread, there are not many, it is always between 30-40 viewers. That's not a good sign.
I am strongly thinking about a SGSII,
SGS2 is very good but I feel more attracted to HTC DHD or Sensation...in case nothing changes for the Arc.
You never go wrong when an HTC is rooted over XDA
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SGS2 is very good but I feel more attracted to HTC DHD or Sensation...in case nothing changes for the Arc.
You never go wrong when an HTC is rooted over XDA
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I am not thinking about HTC anymore because of the bootloaders
Rumors are saying that only the Incredible and Desire S will have this horrible thingy, as for Sensation nothing is sure yet.
Some people will have it on May 12 so we just have to wait and see
By the end of May we would know if the Sensation is the new XDA messiah or not
Only a couple of weeks but it's killing me!
Who knows perhaps Paul Obrien will release a rom for the Arc next week, I understood he's planning to buy it too, but in another hand SGS2 will take all of his free time
What i am afraid of is when the SGS2 come(alot of people have it now) no one will look in to the arc and that what scares me off.
will wait for a custom rom but if the sgs2 arrived and got custom roms then arc wont get one. and i might think of getting the SGS2 later on.
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Will the Arc get custom roms before 2012?
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Maybe, are you planning on producing one this year?
I too look forward to custon roms, but I wouldnt say im pissed becaise other devices may get one 1st, if its so annoying learn how to compile one for yourself and post it.
Oh I wish I had the knowledge to do it!
I would port Sense...
Some stats: 257 downloads for my modded statusbar.
It's even higher than what I got with the same mod in N1 section for the same amount of time!
So I deduce that we have lot of Arc users here but we just need devs with linux knowledge...and that's the main problem!
Even X10 devs are gonna buy the SGS2 or Sensation
I feel like I bought an iphone, many users but no dev!
I have exams over the next three weeks, but I might have a go at porting cyanogenmod afterwards - if recovery is sorted out. The only problem I have is that this is my main phone and obviously I don't want to brick it!
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I have exams over the next three weeks, but I might have a go at porting cyanogenmod afterwards - if recovery is sorted out. The only problem I have is that this is my main phone and obviously I don't want to brick it!
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Agree with this i think if we have recovery it will much easier to play with roms. right now i want to make a nand so i can always go back if something fails.
That's what frighten me!
Bin4ry hasn't an Arc and he made us a great service with rooting, now he's working on an Incredible S/Sensation root.
Paul Obrien has a Play and was willing to buy an Arc but he doesn't show any sign of caring for us
Devs feel the Arc like an amateur phone so they don't buy it.
When the SGS2 will be released worldwide and the Sensation right after, you can be sure nobody will ever think about the Arc
Well if all goes wrong there is help making roms so if recovery is done ill buy a laptop and try do it my self probably cyanogen we shall see tho. But I cant believe no one is a Dev on arc really
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I have exams over the next three weeks, but I might have a go at porting cyanogenmod afterwards ...
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I was just about to point you in the direction of blagus' thread but I see you've posted there already
i am a x10 user, no surprise there is no devs getting ARC due to nightmare x10.
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i am a x10 user, no surprise there is no devs getting ARC due to nightmare x10.
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Right, but first of all X10 took sometimes to have a developers till June 2010 even though people were there but wasn't serious till then.
Second, X10 had issues like OS was outdated a many more but arc barely has any issues (at least to me). Only thing people like to see to me is stock android or CM7? well, more people will show up here. Soon...
Eventhough I do think you have a point I do believe we will get some. And when the first one managed to get a fully working ROM and share his knowledge, I am convinced more will follow. For now my default rom is functioning fine. I really don't have the brains to make a ROM, so I am patiently sitting in the waiting room....
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I think the delay in custom ROM 's was down to
Everyone waiting for Sony Ericsson to officially unlock the Bootloader and also this is only the second handset that has been launched with Android 2.3 Gingerbread.
Fingers crossed, look how long the X1 was out before custom ROMs came popular.
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Never rooting my phone again, wasted a lot of my life rooting, s-offing, a2sding, gparting, ubunting etc etc. Gonna leave the arc well alone. Its a light skin over gb and I see no advantage to rooting.
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I have the chance to sell my x10 and replace it with some other high end phone.I have Samsung galaxy s2,sensation and Xperia play in mind. Can anyone recommend me.
In my opnion S2 or sensation since they are dual core . Play arent much and they are bulky unless u want game that much.
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PLAY does not worth the money. Go for S2 or Sensation.
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Put it in easier terms,
Looks+camera=arc
Pure performance=S2
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I would recommend an arc or sgs2, play is kinda big and costly, at least here(750$)
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S2 for sure its way faster and smoother as the htc and it is unlocked whitout having to do anything.
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or you could just wait for SE to release a phone with dual core :> xperia duo
sgs2 for sure....
though sensation is pretty damn nice too
sgs2 and sensation are both very good looking and performing phones.
but have you ever tried out a device with htc sense on it? if not, do it, before you grab the sensation!!! i really don't like this sense-thing, because i think it "encomplicates" the whole system...but it's surely a question of taste...
samsung's touchwiz is not that spectacular, so this shouldn't be a problem at all.
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sgs2 and sensation are both very good looking and performing phones.
but have you ever tried out a device with htc sense on it? if not, do it, before you grab the sensation!!! i really don't like this sense-thing, because i think it "encomplicates" the whole system...but it's surely a question of taste...
samsung's touchwiz is not that spectacular, so this shouldn't be a problem at all.
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you do know you can get a different launcher right? lol
Galaxy S2. Use a custom ROM if you don't like touchwiz.
Galaxy s2 ita super fast and it has a nice camera aswell
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Galaxy S2 seems to have the best specifications. It also seems a bit more solid when compared to the sensation.
Why are you considering the play? Do you want to game a lot? I don't know how the games are but you could ask in the play forum.
hey guys for me i can only choose between LG optimus 2x or Nexus S with my new carrier, which one should i take?
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hey guys for me i can only choose between LG optimus 2x or Nexus S with my new carrier, which one should i take?
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haven't tried the optimus 2x yet...
the nexus s is pretty awesome though, and you'll always get timely android updates.
Im gonna break from the crowda little. Im holding out for the Nokia n9. Thing looks boss. The LG looks neat but the phone is a little lame. The nexus s is probably a much better choice.
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Don't like the UI and design of SG2.On paper,Xperia Duo looks good.What is the release date.
I'm enjoying my EVO 3D very much.
With that said, I think you should decide what features you require and those you'd like to have. Check out GMS Arena's database of phones to see which phones suit those needs. Then do some searching online for reviews and user commentary of the phones you may be interested in.
I think u should probably go for GS2.Its one of the best smart phone so far.Or,if u can wait for some time,go for next generation devices.
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Don't like the UI and design of SG2.On paper,Xperia Duo looks good.What is the release date.
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Release date? No one even knows if it's real yet
Well, we know that our X8 is near to end its life cycle. With the new double-cored smartphones (and soon quad core!), X8 won't last much longer, mainly because we do more and more things with our phones as they evolve, like playing heavier games, taking HD videos, Sweep panorama, 3D, music beats technology (for now only with HTC phones but I don't doubt that other brands will also offer it in their phones soon) etc. etc.
Of course we have made our X8 a great phone with custom ROMs, like GingerDX (wich I use and I won't switch for now, I love it); I remember that when Gingerbread was about to be released, they said that it would be only possible to install it on devices that had 512 of RAM or higher... And thanks to the wonderful works of devs and several of you, we can use it in our X8.
So, the first question is: What are the real posibilities of having an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM in the future for our X8?
And second: Will you change your phone just to be updated and get Android 4.0 or will you stick with your X8 no matter if you get ICS or not?
My answers are (even if nobody cares haha): 1. I think devs could achieve to design an ICS ROM for X8, of course with a really hard work and dedication. Nothing is easy, neither impossible.
2. I don't know if I could get Xperia Neo in December. If I don't get it, then I'll wait until the next new SE devices (I'm kinda fan of SE). I'm checking the code named Nozomi and looks marvelous, the only thing I don't like is its big screen... Since I've using X8 Im starting to love small screens!
No i will not switch because i cant afford that, im only 15 ;DD
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I'm 15 too but I will get a Galaxy Nexus as a birthday present. 25 Dec. LOL
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Yep, 25th of December for me!
That's if I ask for one....
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i hope we will have ics port for x8, there is one port for htc hero already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352149
if hero can have ics, we can have it too or ?
and here is video of hero running ics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FSomVYrr0
If its possible on hero then its possible on x8.but,we dont have any developer to make it...
i guess ics will be too much for the x8's ram !!
with gingerbread we only had like 20mb of free ram most of the time....
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i guess ics will be too much for the x8's ram !!
with gingerbread we only had like 20mb of free ram most of the time....
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I get 40mb ram free with Speed Booster Lite (it cleares system cache)
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i have 70 mb available every time with Gc8.
I don´t care about the X8 getting ICS or not, as most of the features won´t be available on our low-end device.
ANd I also think if we get it, it will be slow, or at least take ages to be fsmooth like GB (especially GDX) now.
My contract with my provider ends next summer, and then I´ll search for another one with better phones (as the best Android phone my provider offers only has a 800MHz-single-core CPU).
I won´t buy any SE phone, because of the (IMO) ugly UI and the not-updating of older devices (I´ll also flash custom ROMs on my next phone, but developing custom ROMs of new Android versions is, as you all know, easier, if you can use the libs from the stock ROM.
Maybe I´ll buy a HTC because they have good-looking phones with good specs and beautiful HTC Sense.
Yes HTC allday! Im still hoping for HTC salsa 2.3 to get fixed... not too bothered about ics on x8, il probs have a new phone to accommodate that in the near future...but I do recommend to anyone who likes HTC style Rom to try this beast out...
http://pashkovsky.com/x8/roms/salsa-sense-0.15.rar
Known bugs - wifi/mobile data, vibrate, 3d, camera. I'm hoping there's a dev out there who can make this work one day
Thanks to racht for this one
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Well, I don't really want ICS on my X8 because it would be laggy and not for everyday use. It would be nice for testing though.
I'm planning to buy an HTC Desire Z, since it's prize has fallen down (250 euros) in my country because I really love Sense and the QWERTY keyboard!
Desire Z sucks, small battery, outdatet, buy samsung galaxy s plus, or samsung nexus s, still pretty good phones with awesome community support, and pretty decent price now. Also liked the sgs2 little cousin with tegra .I quess it was samsung galaxy r?
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Desire Z sucks, small battery, outdatet, buy samsung galaxy s plus, or samsung nexus s, still pretty good phones with awesome community support, and pretty decent price now. Also liked the sgs2 little cousin with tegra .I quess it was samsung galaxy r?
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i totally agree with you..i moved to nexus s from my x8 and i am very pleased..and it is not very expensive in greece
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Thnx for sharing these information.
If some devs contribute we can have ics on x8 and it should work fine if its well built.if hero,who has worse specifications can run it,x8 should run it better.
It isn't really "worse". It has slower CPU but a bit more RAM. With low RAM systems, 32MB is a significant advantage.
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It isn't really "worse". It has slower CPU but a bit more RAM. With low RAM systems, 32MB is a significant advantage.
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This.
And doixanh, GingerDX is just awesome. May you consider something like "IceCreamDX" in the future?
ICEDX master Doixanh
It seems another low-end device LG GT540 to have ICS. Yes, it also has bigger RAM but it would be regrettable if x8 couldnt have it.