Ice Cream Sandwich: the real posibilities - XPERIA X8 General

Well, we know that our X8 is near to end its life cycle. With the new double-cored smartphones (and soon quad core!), X8 won't last much longer, mainly because we do more and more things with our phones as they evolve, like playing heavier games, taking HD videos, Sweep panorama, 3D, music beats technology (for now only with HTC phones but I don't doubt that other brands will also offer it in their phones soon) etc. etc.
Of course we have made our X8 a great phone with custom ROMs, like GingerDX (wich I use and I won't switch for now, I love it); I remember that when Gingerbread was about to be released, they said that it would be only possible to install it on devices that had 512 of RAM or higher... And thanks to the wonderful works of devs and several of you, we can use it in our X8.
So, the first question is: What are the real posibilities of having an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM in the future for our X8?
And second: Will you change your phone just to be updated and get Android 4.0 or will you stick with your X8 no matter if you get ICS or not?
My answers are (even if nobody cares haha): 1. I think devs could achieve to design an ICS ROM for X8, of course with a really hard work and dedication. Nothing is easy, neither impossible.
2. I don't know if I could get Xperia Neo in December. If I don't get it, then I'll wait until the next new SE devices (I'm kinda fan of SE). I'm checking the code named Nozomi and looks marvelous, the only thing I don't like is its big screen... Since I've using X8 Im starting to love small screens!

No i will not switch because i cant afford that, im only 15 ;DD
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I'm 15 too but I will get a Galaxy Nexus as a birthday present. 25 Dec. LOL
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Yep, 25th of December for me!
That's if I ask for one....
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i hope we will have ics port for x8, there is one port for htc hero already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352149
if hero can have ics, we can have it too or ?
and here is video of hero running ics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FSomVYrr0

If its possible on hero then its possible on x8.but,we dont have any developer to make it...

i guess ics will be too much for the x8's ram !!
with gingerbread we only had like 20mb of free ram most of the time....

skyboyextreme said:
i guess ics will be too much for the x8's ram !!
with gingerbread we only had like 20mb of free ram most of the time....
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I get 40mb ram free with Speed Booster Lite (it cleares system cache)
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i have 70 mb available every time with Gc8.

I don´t care about the X8 getting ICS or not, as most of the features won´t be available on our low-end device.
ANd I also think if we get it, it will be slow, or at least take ages to be fsmooth like GB (especially GDX) now.
My contract with my provider ends next summer, and then I´ll search for another one with better phones (as the best Android phone my provider offers only has a 800MHz-single-core CPU).
I won´t buy any SE phone, because of the (IMO) ugly UI and the not-updating of older devices (I´ll also flash custom ROMs on my next phone, but developing custom ROMs of new Android versions is, as you all know, easier, if you can use the libs from the stock ROM.
Maybe I´ll buy a HTC because they have good-looking phones with good specs and beautiful HTC Sense.

Yes HTC allday! Im still hoping for HTC salsa 2.3 to get fixed... not too bothered about ics on x8, il probs have a new phone to accommodate that in the near future...but I do recommend to anyone who likes HTC style Rom to try this beast out...
http://pashkovsky.com/x8/roms/salsa-sense-0.15.rar
Known bugs - wifi/mobile data, vibrate, 3d, camera. I'm hoping there's a dev out there who can make this work one day
Thanks to racht for this one
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Well, I don't really want ICS on my X8 because it would be laggy and not for everyday use. It would be nice for testing though.
I'm planning to buy an HTC Desire Z, since it's prize has fallen down (250 euros) in my country because I really love Sense and the QWERTY keyboard!

Desire Z sucks, small battery, outdatet, buy samsung galaxy s plus, or samsung nexus s, still pretty good phones with awesome community support, and pretty decent price now. Also liked the sgs2 little cousin with tegra .I quess it was samsung galaxy r?
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Diddymies said:
Desire Z sucks, small battery, outdatet, buy samsung galaxy s plus, or samsung nexus s, still pretty good phones with awesome community support, and pretty decent price now. Also liked the sgs2 little cousin with tegra .I quess it was samsung galaxy r?
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i totally agree with you..i moved to nexus s from my x8 and i am very pleased..and it is not very expensive in greece
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Thnx for sharing these information.

If some devs contribute we can have ics on x8 and it should work fine if its well built.if hero,who has worse specifications can run it,x8 should run it better.

It isn't really "worse". It has slower CPU but a bit more RAM. With low RAM systems, 32MB is a significant advantage.

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It isn't really "worse". It has slower CPU but a bit more RAM. With low RAM systems, 32MB is a significant advantage.
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This.
And doixanh, GingerDX is just awesome. May you consider something like "IceCreamDX" in the future?

ICEDX master Doixanh

It seems another low-end device LG GT540 to have ICS. Yes, it also has bigger RAM but it would be regrettable if x8 couldnt have it.

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getting a new phone which is better

well i currently got a wildfire and im thinking off upgrading not sure which one to go for
htc desire hd or
samsung galaxy s
hmmmmmmmmmm
daddyspud said:
well i currently got a wildfire and im thinking off upgrading not sure which one to go for
htc desire hd or
samsung galaxy s
hmmmmmmmmmm
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I would go for Desire HD. Materials and general quality. (Galaxy is plastics)
But it depends in your needs and likes, and price. Sure other people will write big explanations.
Nice upgrade anyway!
eva since my sister shown me the galaxy s i wanted it but i really like the desire as well hmmmmmm but my network offers me a good deal on the galaxy s 300 mins 3000 text and 500mb internet 25.50 a month
desire is the same
daddyspud said:
eva since my sister shown me the galaxy s i wanted it but i really like the desire as well hmmmmmm but my network offers me a good deal on the galaxy s 300 mins 3000 text and 500mb internet 25.50 a month
desire is the same
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Sure, it is a great phone. I just believe HTC is better. Have you looked at that video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75YvokzYmrg
It can be very useful to you (long. software stuff starts at 4:50)
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Sure, it is a great phone. I just believe HTC is better. Have you looked at that video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75YvokzYmrg
It can be very useful to you (long. software stuff starts at 4:50)
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the difference i can see is
galaxy s is that it has slighty longer long life and looks like a iphone
htc desire hd has a flasher bigger memory has 2fps better
but from i can see the galaxy s is porting stuf from htc
but i really wana keep the phone stock but them again i like to play so hmmmmmmmmm
The Galaxy S was the first smartphone I bought and it's a great phone. Swype is one of THE best apps I've ever used and I dearly wish it was available on the Wildfire as typing this reply with a bog-standard keyboard is a major PITA.
I principally bought the Galaxy S because it was the biggest screen on the market at the time and watching videos on a small screen blows. Of course, there are now phones with bigger screens, so I've upgraded to the Nexus S. Another key factor in my upgrade decision was that Samsung took a long time to upgrade the Galaxy S from Eclair to Froyo and I didn't want to wait for them to upgrade it to Gingerbread so I bought the Nexus S. AFAIK, to date Samsung have no plans to upgrade the Galaxy S to Gingerbread.
So I suggest you factor this in to your purchase decision and try and really focus on what you're looking for in a smartphone.
I've also just discovered the world of custom ROMs so now I find I'm going to sell my Galaxy S (and possibly my Nexus S - while the secondhand prices are still high) as I'm enjoying my (small and thin) Wildfire + custom ROMs so much that I hardly ever use the other two phones.
So my advice to you is to seriously think about what it really is you like about the hardware. As the software you can change.
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The Galaxy S was the first smartphone I bought and it's a great phone. Swype is one of THE best apps I've ever used and I dearly wish it was available on the Wildfire as typing this reply with a bog-standard keyboard is a major PITA.
I principally bought the Galaxy S because it was the biggest screen on the market at the time and watching videos on a small screen blows. Of course, there are now phones with bigger screens, so I've upgraded to the Nexus S. Another key factor in my upgrade decision was that Samsung took a long time to upgrade the Galaxy S from Eclair to Froyo and I didn't want to wait for them to upgrade it to Gingerbread so I bought the Nexus S. AFAIK, to date Samsung have no plans to upgrade the Galaxy S to Gingerbread.
So I suggest you factor this in to your purchase decision and try and really focus on what you're looking for in a smartphone.
I've also just discovered the world of custom ROMs so now I find I'm going to sell my Galaxy S (and possibly my Nexus S - while the secondhand prices are still high) as I'm enjoying my (small and thin) Wildfire + custom ROMs so much that I hardly ever use the other two phones.
So my advice to you is to seriously think about what it really is you like about the hardware. As the software you can change.
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REally?!?! You have Galaxy S, Nexus S, but you prefer Wildfire?? I have too much envy right now!!! But it's a little strange, isn't it? I mean they are fantastic phones and Wildfire is great, but no so powerful!
Yes, it surprises me as well that I find the Wildfire to be more to my liking. I guess I just like its size compared to the others. Each to his own, but it has been an expensive exercise for me to find out what I really like.
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im keeping my wildfire as i love it but i reallt want a upgraded phone really i want the best of both lol and ill us my wildfire on motorbike as my mp3 player and sat nav etc and if falls off the sat nav stand i want b to upset as ill have my samsung lol but i will miss the little thing done me good so fare cheap and chearfull lol
Whichever you can get and play around with the soonest.
Nokia 3210
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kevin2516 said:
Nokia 3210
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Kev. Throw yourself out from a window of a skyscraper dude
Samsung galaxy S is very slick and smooth but if youre looking for a quality phone andorid still then i'd suggest going for the Google Nexus S
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Kev. Throw yourself out from a window of a skyscraper dude
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joker haha
Go for Milestone 2 or Just the normal Desire.
i got a samsung galaxy s for my gf. its a really nice phone, but she did experience an issue with the battery. it would hardly last 14 hrs. (with GPS, background data disabled, only 2G mode and abt an hour wi-fi use)
Not to worryed about battery as I usally have ne phone either plugged into my pc or on charge whilst im on my motobike so not to fussed about battery life
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Desire Hd or xperia 10

Planning to ditch x10 over desire hd.. Any suggestion ..???
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Edit : brought inspire 4g ...
Wait 'til the next gen arrives. An upgrade is redundant for now.
Who cares!??
Make your own decisions...
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Planning to ditch x10 over desire hd.. Any suggestion ..???
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Desire HD has a better GPU.
But i would hold out for something better.
OmegaRED^ said:
Desire HD has a better GPU.
But i would hold out for something better.
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gorilla screen, 16 M colours, GPU, 4.3 screen, bootloader unlocked, Everything working in custom roms ..
What more i can ask for ??
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Who cares!??
Make your own decisions...
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Grow up, this is a serious matter. I have experienced this kind of situation a lot of times and I end up regretting for what I chose.
Especially the X10. Bought it impatiently and the next gen phone came out the next week.
I learned and I told myself not to be impatient. Your kind of posts always made people regret themselves. You are not motivating them, you are leading them to despair(a bit too far eh?).
@OP -- Look, the next quad-core smartphone is expected to be released this month. You should wait and at that time, you can make your decision. Besides, DHD isn't powerful anymore now, SGSII has surpassed all smartphones out there. And Nvidia Kal-El looks promising, just wait for sometime.
But I'm not the one who decides what you should and shouldn't do. It's up to you, and I'm not forcing you but I hope you don't regret for what you choose.
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gorilla screen, 16 M colours, GPU, 4.3 screen, bootloader unlocked, Everything working in custom roms ..
What more i can ask for ??
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I have only 2 days to decide ....
o0k00l said:
I have only 2 days to decide ....
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Why only 2 days? And you only have DHD as an option? If that is the case... you might want to go for it.
Hzu said:
Why only 2 days? And you only have DHD as an option? If that is the case... you might want to go for it.
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my bro broke his phone so i m giving x10 to him n buying new ..
S2 is out of my budget ..
Hmm, so you're the one who makes the choice. Check out the phone dealer and look for what they have. Remember to choose wisely, good luck!
Do it.
If i could i would.
Go for the Galaxy S if you're not going for the Galaxy S II... Or wait for the upcoming cheaper version of the Galaxy S II.
KeizBaby said:
Go for the Galaxy S if you're not going for the Galaxy S II... Or wait for the upcoming cheaper version of the Galaxy S II.
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so galaxy s is better than DHD ????
o0k00l said:
so galaxy s is better than DHD ????
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http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-Desire-HD-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S_id2586
Better get Arc )
mundy725 said:
Better get Arc )
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not even have developers .. Not even 1 fully working custom ROM ..
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I wouldnt have a Dhd over x10 now GB is out
Camera on ALL htc phones suck ass
If you can find a galaxy S then go for it with the superamoled and all but the design isnt too great, the only real advantage over the x10 sgs has is more ram, bootloader and multitouch
I love my x10 and dont care about any other phone at all untill a xperia dual core phone is released
Dhd screen quality isnt good at all and MIUI on it is slow and terrible
But it is a good phone and smooth as butter with the right rom on it
My personal opinion dont flame me guys
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Camera is 8 megapixel and has 720p so I have no idea what this guy above means. You have all the latest custom stuff like official support for Miui and cm7. I am able to have 5 roms at once installed without wiping, right now setup is phone rom cm7 slot 1 miui slot 2 sense 3.0. Everything working perfectly. 4.3 inch screen is amazing as well. Everything is fast and smooth with a Linux kernel 3.0 port running and oc'd to 1.5 ghz allowing 50% faster processing speeds. Honestly dev scene here will be dead soon, I've seen rdannar leave j has an arc to play with and trip has a sensation so might as well move on.
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Planning to ditch x10 over desire hd.. Any suggestion ..???
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why dont u buy sensation or S2 or optimus 2X....
u will regret again on buying DHD.. cause it's older now...
if u have budget limit , then u can buy DHD. my friend has DHD and it's too faster ,stable and better then x10... It has stable custom roms... but S-off and rooting is quite frustrating... it took me 3 hours to do all that in my friend's phone... only drawback is phone speaker and microphone are not good as usual in htc...
LG optimus 2x is more powerful and quite cheap phone , may be almost same as DHD price .. i would rather buy optimus 2x
Even lg optimus 2x is out of ur budget u should buy Samsung Galaxy S[the original one - not Galaxy S-LCD-downgraded model]
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Dhd screen quality isnt good at all and MIUI on it is slow and terrible
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not at all... miui on DHD is superfast even then trip's froyo miui on x10...
Thanx
Yeah it has the same camera specs but have you heard the video sound quality? Its terrible
And the camera shots at 8mp sent half as good as x10
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Phone recommendation

I have the chance to sell my x10 and replace it with some other high end phone.I have Samsung galaxy s2,sensation and Xperia play in mind. Can anyone recommend me.
In my opnion S2 or sensation since they are dual core . Play arent much and they are bulky unless u want game that much.
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PLAY does not worth the money. Go for S2 or Sensation.
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Put it in easier terms,
Looks+camera=arc
Pure performance=S2
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I would recommend an arc or sgs2, play is kinda big and costly, at least here(750$)
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S2 for sure its way faster and smoother as the htc and it is unlocked whitout having to do anything.
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or you could just wait for SE to release a phone with dual core :> xperia duo
sgs2 for sure....
though sensation is pretty damn nice too
sgs2 and sensation are both very good looking and performing phones.
but have you ever tried out a device with htc sense on it? if not, do it, before you grab the sensation!!! i really don't like this sense-thing, because i think it "encomplicates" the whole system...but it's surely a question of taste...
samsung's touchwiz is not that spectacular, so this shouldn't be a problem at all.
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sgs2 and sensation are both very good looking and performing phones.
but have you ever tried out a device with htc sense on it? if not, do it, before you grab the sensation!!! i really don't like this sense-thing, because i think it "encomplicates" the whole system...but it's surely a question of taste...
samsung's touchwiz is not that spectacular, so this shouldn't be a problem at all.
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you do know you can get a different launcher right? lol
Galaxy S2. Use a custom ROM if you don't like touchwiz.
Galaxy s2 ita super fast and it has a nice camera aswell
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Galaxy S2 seems to have the best specifications. It also seems a bit more solid when compared to the sensation.
Why are you considering the play? Do you want to game a lot? I don't know how the games are but you could ask in the play forum.
hey guys for me i can only choose between LG optimus 2x or Nexus S with my new carrier, which one should i take?
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hey guys for me i can only choose between LG optimus 2x or Nexus S with my new carrier, which one should i take?
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haven't tried the optimus 2x yet...
the nexus s is pretty awesome though, and you'll always get timely android updates.
Im gonna break from the crowda little. Im holding out for the Nokia n9. Thing looks boss. The LG looks neat but the phone is a little lame. The nexus s is probably a much better choice.
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Don't like the UI and design of SG2.On paper,Xperia Duo looks good.What is the release date.
I'm enjoying my EVO 3D very much.
With that said, I think you should decide what features you require and those you'd like to have. Check out GMS Arena's database of phones to see which phones suit those needs. Then do some searching online for reviews and user commentary of the phones you may be interested in.
I think u should probably go for GS2.Its one of the best smart phone so far.Or,if u can wait for some time,go for next generation devices.
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Don't like the UI and design of SG2.On paper,Xperia Duo looks good.What is the release date.
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Release date? No one even knows if it's real yet

Whats next....?

Hi, guys. Since arco's post whether there will be CM9 or not, which will be Android 4.0 in all its glare, for our precious and beloved device ive started to think about upgrading my phone to something more, let me say, powerful. To be honest this phone gave its best in a sense of a development and using new stuff which hits every day. We saw some pretty much good stuff on a little fire which none of us expected when first came here. There are at first Cyanogenmod,first 6 and now 7 which led us though great Gingerbread experience till its latest version 2.3.7. In one word CM was the beginner of everything that was happening around here in pas year and little more, than we saw some nice themes and they juiced up our phone a little more to our taste. Than there is better camera recording, overclocking. I should at first say root, but never mind, than came AlpharevX with its s-off. Well, not to make it long, there were a lot of nice moments. And as for me ive learned a lot, so thank to everyone who helped me in any way.
But like any other device out there and this one will come to an end of its development era. So, the question is it time for retirement? What would be your next ride? Im thinking about Sensation or EVO 3D, that is if i collect enough money Anyway, ill still be here for some time. Please, share your thoughts...
Best regards, zexcrazy
I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.
3xeno said:
I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.
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You are right about everything you said, but Wildfire is my first andrid device and im somehow sentimentally bounded to HTC, but well you never know where the road can take me. I though about SGS, as a cheaper solution (price is a important asspet in my case, for now). One thing is sure im not going to take LG as i had few bad experiences with them in past.
And you are right about SGN, they made few poor moves with graphic chip and 5mp camera, but i recon Samsung is saving its strenght for SGS III.
I get what you are saying, and, even I would definitely like my next device to be an HTC (More so, because companies like Samsung and LG, they are essentially consumer goods entities - the air conditioners at my college are by Samsung, the refrigerator at my place is by LG, and so on, and, this fact is what comes first to mind when you say companies like Samsung and LG, but, HTC is just that - a 'specialist' smartphone manufacturer), but, I am somehow forcing myself to see beyond their brand value and look at better alternatives for the same price. (As you put - Price comes first)
I will definetly stay with the Wildfire for a couple of months more. Now i have the new stable Version and everything runs smooth and fast. I don't need faster devices, i like it how it is right now. Maybe i will buy some new in the future if there is enough money, but i havent thought about it yet.
There will be CM9 for the Wildfire.
I'm an optimist.
If not... I will probably buy the G2X or Sensation. G2X more likely for the price. Or a Nexus S? Who knows, I'll discuss that with my wallet.
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I get my up grade December. So I was thinking sensation or gs2 but not sure witch 1 to go for been looking at both now for the last month
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My contract ends in 2 years, hopefully optus lets me upgrade before then lol (or else I'll threaten them :L), I have no idea what phones will be out by then but I think I'll stick with samsung, there phones are so much fun lol, or maybe htc if they release anything good
If I still had my wildfire I prob would've upgraded to the sgs2.
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My bro is upgrading his phone soon to sgs2, think ill take over his sgi9000 for cheap or even free if you read this, brotherly love. lol I'll give it the life it should be having flash flash and more flashing.......
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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.
I agree the Wildfire and its successor are great My First Androids, but my next phone will likely be a Samsung too even if that would mean it's the same brand as my microwave oven. However, at the moment I'd rather buy a Motorola Xoom and "degrade" my Wildfire to "just a phone" for the time being. Xoom + extra battery for Wildfire (gotta keep that access point running) is cheaper then buying the Galaxy Nexus plus when an ICS phone hits the stores I can still extend my current plan for 2 years to get it.
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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.
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Please stick with the Wildfire, there has to be a way to port effin ICS.
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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.
Galaxy W is pretty decent upgrade and as for me it much more reachable than some of the flagship devices i am dreaming of.
Ill stick to a Wildfire for some time, but the day will come sooner or later.
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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.
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I wouldnt agree. They said that ics will be able to run on any device whic was able to run Gingerbread. So if we take official gingerbred suported phones there is Wildfire S which has 600Mhz processor. So its not true that it requires dual core.
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I reckon the wildfire has about 6 to 12 months more left in it. Oath it has been where no one thought it would go. First got the official support from HTC (finally!). Everyone really wanted it and foolishly upgraded changing the bootloader/hboot. That is where I went, I foolishly upgraded then met xda. Seeing so many things happen and I really wanted a custom rom. It started with the urge of really wanting live wallpapers then it grew from there. Waiting for a software s-off, I stood optimistic that one was "coming" even though so many said it wouldn't happen and that the only way would be to use the hardware tool XTC clip. Waiting for so long I managed to get my hands on AlphaRevX. My phone being a locked phone on telstra it was loaded with the custom carrier hboot 02 instead of 01. Alpharev refused to work on these custom hboots so I stood on freenode until a dev came online and managed to hack up a telstra s-off hboot for me to test. I managed to get my s-off with it but by then alpharev team dropped support of hboot 02 because they would have to hack every hboot for different carriers. I soon began to flash roms and read up on all the nice roms. I tried CM7 but hated it because of the interface, I managed to fall in love with the sense interface and couldn't get away from it. I found the sense 2.1 rom and waited for it to get more stable but it was discontinued so I took over. I built my knowledge and now I am working on the rom SenseOnFire. So thats my story. I think the wildfire isn't its time yet and there are so many fantastic devs around here that don't and won't give up on this device just yet. The CM team will be able to hack up something for this device I just know it. Just think before the wildfire got official froyo no one would of thought it would ever run gingerbread.
I`ll upgrade in about an year or so, but I won`t buy a phone with a screen larger than 3.5 inches. Maybe a 3.7 of the bezel is small enough. I don`t like ping-pong paddle type of phones.
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I like big screens. 4 inch would be ideal for me.
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Gingerbread will probably run on a T-Mobile G1. Google never said "any", they said "most". The Wildfire also lacks a GPU so ICS on a Wildfire wouldn't look the same as ICS on a Nexus either.
And I agree with Alex_GP, overly large form factors are a modern reminder of those old clunky phones from 2 decades ago. The Desire S seems nice in this regard, a little bit thinner and a little bit less wide but also just a bit taller to accommodate an HVGA(!) screen. But then it has that annoying capacitive search button which always fires at the wrong moment when held in a right hand. So I guess I'll wait for an updated version of the Samsung Galaxy Ace and hope it's not as slow/fast as an overclocked Wildfire.
I think I'm going for the HTC Sensation XE.
Since I got the Wildfire, I realized that pixels ARE important (atleast for me) so qHD will be perfect for me.
4,3 inch is also perfect. Not too big, or too small. (my bro has desire HD so I kind of know how big it is).
The XE is just a beautiful beast
And luckily HTC said that it'll get ICS.
I'm not sure when I'll upgrade, but I guess soon. Maybe next week or something..
Can't stand the ldpi thing and the slow performance..
But will keep my Wildfire as a backup device.
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Xperia Arc S or HTC Sensation XL ?

Hey guys!
I'm planning to buy a new phone in 2 weeks ..
I'm confused between these two .. Xperia Arc S and Sensation XL ..
Any recommendations or guidance from the users of these phones
What i like about the XL :
Massive 4.7" screen
Easier to touch-type
Beats audio
What i like about the Arc S :
Sharper screen (233 ppi) despite the small size (4.3"), comparing to the XL's 4.7" and (199 ppi)
The cool looks !
The upcoming official ICS will look great on the that phone
Both processors are fast .. 1.4 and 1.5
Taking into account that I lOVE the new ICS look and i'd love to have it on my next phone .. While i can only have it on the Arc S because of CM support .. And i don't know how to get that look on the Sensation XL because of the lack of suport and the too little ROMs availablity
By what you said, get Arc S, or wait a little more for Xperia S. Both will get ICS until june. Arc S is going to get stable CM9 soon, and I'm sure there will be some guys from FreeXperiaTeam (who work with CM in 2011 Xperia devices) working ASAP on Xperia S.
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You ask that question in an Xperia Arc forum? Are you dumb or something?
i had just pick up an arc a month ago..i just take it primarily because of it good looks other than that sony promise of official ice cream samndwish and a remote chance that the arc get Playstation store outside of japan..
but i don't see if both arc and sensation gonna be relevent by the 3rq quarters of this year.as i change phone every year, the arc fits the time frame..but if u wanna kept your phone lots longer, get a dual core
I'd say Arc S
Has a micro sd slot which the XL doesn't have.
If the XL had dualcore I'd go with that but it hasn't and 100Mhz are no difference.
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+1 to arcS... HTC is too expancive... What are you paying for? Half of inch? Wright question is arcS or Sensation XE... Dual core, great display, Beats Audio... And looks great to. I would prefer SE because I am a BIG fan of it... And you can go to the store, take both of them in yor hands and decide...
Seems like the Arc S is a winner for me. The charisma and charm of this phone is irresistible. However, I'm considering the upcoming Xperia S too .. Just Hoping it won't be too expensive
this HTC comes with a internal 16G memory and 768 MB ram - these are more critical factors for performance. correct me if i am wrong?
Ok, RAM is a big plus.
But for me the 16GB non-expandable memory (?) are too less, so no-go. I have ~23GB on my phone.
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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That's exactly what I'm planning for
Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes until the gs3 comes out then once again samsung goes back on top
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iridaki said:
I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Thumbs up, dude
I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I was tempted by Note because of it's size and power etc. as I could eventually get one for free,
but this device is NOT impressive.
The screen - again - looks like oversaturated **** and the UI is actually disgusting.
I quit after 5 minutes of playing with it.
BTW the performance when just fiddling with it was actually mediocre.
Xperia S is worth wait, as far I have seen after AOSP Sony has one of the best UI and they aren't in the race for great hardware spec like other which just made Dual core devices without software support for it. Sony waited to release dual core when it's necessary i.e. As far as I know ICS is optimized for Dual core. So when they started rolling out ICS update they started to make dual core devices. But if you looking to brag about the spec then sure go for SGS 3 that might out
My 2 cents

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