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DHD rom development-what's going on?

Hey guys,what's up?
Well,as most(if not all) of you,I am enjoying this wonderful phone for almost a week now.However I've been watching the DHD forums since they started,when I had my Desire and my Hero only.Not that I am unhappy about something and everyone around here is pretty helpful and all,but I thought that such a device would get more attention.Especially 4.3 inchers from HTC(Leo and Evo) are very favoured by developers.For the DHD there are only a few roms and they don't get updated very frequently.
Does anyone know whether it is just too early or if I'll have to stick with it?Maybe it's just that I had the Hero and the Desire when they were all the rage and am used to that,but I don't think that's the case...
Well,the thread's open for discussion(civilised if possible ) and I'm waiting to here other people's thoughts on the matter!
With kind regards,
Apostolis

tolis626 said:
Hey guys,what's up?
Well,as most(if not all) of you,I am enjoying this wonderful phone for almost a week now.However I've been watching the DHD forums since they started,when I had my Desire and my Hero only.Not that I am unhappy about something and everyone around here is pretty helpful and all,but I thought that such a device would get more attention.Especially 4.3 inchers from HTC(Leo and Evo) are very favoured by developers.For the DHD there are only a few roms and they don't get updated very frequently.
Does anyone know whether it is just too early or if I'll have to stick with it?Maybe it's just that I had the Hero and the Desire when they were all the rage and am used to that,but I don't think that's the case...
Well,the thread's open for discussion(civilised if possible ) and I'm waiting to here other people's thoughts on the matter!
With kind regards,
Apostolis
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I believe it is still a bit early for mass-development.
Dont forget that the device has been in very short supply since its introduction.
Cheers

I too agree. Shortages globally may influence the lack of current interest. However, it would not really be interest...more like mass-interest. Developers have done a lot for this phone, there have been many users here making threads, such as the camera threads, battery life threads, and there are many replies and many more views. I believe there have been only a few developers who decided to get the Desire HD. Why? Some may regard the Desire HD as not a big enough reason to ditch the Evos, Desires and HD2s! I'm sure this phone will boost up its demand in XDA soon. Give it a month or two. Another speculation is: this device is almost perfection. What can you do to make it perfect, considering all humans have different views and ideas of perfection? Only making the device "better" is attaining a higher form of perfection or nearing that goal. Therefore, those particular areas in modding can take a while to implement!

I too kinda have the same question..

Elemental_Fire said:
I too agree. Shortages globally may influence the lack of current interest. However, it would not really be interest...more like mass-interest. Developers have done a lot for this phone, there have been many users here making threads, such as the camera threads, battery life threads, and there are many replies and many more views. I believe there have been only a few developers who decided to get the Desire HD. Why? Some may regard the Desire HD as not a big enough reason to ditch the Evos, Desires and HD2s! I'm sure this phone will boost up its demand in XDA soon. Give it a month or two. Another speculation is: this device is almost perfection. What can you do to make it perfect, considering all humans have different views and ideas of perfection? Only making the device "better" is attaining a higher form of perfection or nearing that goal. Therefore, those particular areas in modding can take a while to implement!
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Well,I too place my bets to the fact that it's early and all.And boy did I like what you said!It is perfect indeed!
It's just that we can get many things more with custom roms.Not only performance-wise,but many functions restricted by HTC.Anyway,I for one would overclock the hell out of it just to see it kick some Sammy Ass!
Shame I'm all talk for now.I have installed the 1.72 OTA(thank god I S-Off'ed my radio before I did) and now I can't root wihtout downgrading and thus deleting all my apps and data.And boy I can't stand the whole process of reinstalling everything from scratch just to have nothing from my data.No,I'll wait some time in case they manage to root the 1.72 OTA.And god I hope they will!

tolis626 said:
Well,I too place my bets to the fact that it's early and all.And boy did I like what you said!It is perfect indeed!
It's just that we can get many things more with custom roms.Not only performance-wise,but many functions restricted by HTC.Anyway,I for one would overclock the hell out of it just to see it kick some Sammy Ass!
Shame I'm all talk for now.I have installed the 1.72 OTA(thank god I S-Off'ed my radio before I did) and now I can't root wihtout downgrading and thus deleting all my apps and data.And boy I can't stand the whole process of reinstalling everything from scratch just to have nothing from my data.No,I'll wait some time in case they manage to root the 1.72 OTA.And god I hope they will!
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I am sure they will. Rest assured, it is a matter of time. Remember, good things come to those who wait (and don't) xD

Frankly i dont see the problem. There are plenty of roms out at the moment. Theres radios, kernels and even flawlessly working CM. Modaco has a kitchen...
I dont think development is going slow at all!

ftgg99 said:
Frankly i dont see the problem. There are plenty of roms out at the moment. Theres radios, kernels and even flawlessly working CM. Modaco has a kitchen...
I dont think development is going slow at all!
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Most probably you're right,in fact all of you must be right now.Pardon my impatience,but I've used the Hero and the Desire on their "time of glory",when they were,like,what everybody wanted and many people developed for them(I know it's not exactly like that but never mind ).Anyway,it must be just too early...Well,time will tell!And I think that time,being a nasty bastard,won't be saying anything about the DHD until the first rumors and leaks about HTC's Gingerbread update start coming out.

Who needs quantity when you can have quality?
We have Cyanogenmod.

I think you've been unlucky? to come to us just after the gingerbread release and the fallow period prior to the Gingerbread based roms

ghostofcain said:
I think you've been unlucky? to come to us just after the gingerbread release and the fallow period prior to the Gibson based roms
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Maybe...Well,I hope we can call this "The calm before the storm"!
Who needs quantity when you can have quality?
We have Cyanogenmod.
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Well dr.m0x,I for one prefer Sense but seeing support from Cyanogen Team is truly inspiring.These guys kick some serious ass!
Btw,does anyone know if any efforts for rooting the 1.72 OTA are being made?As I said before(or I think I said before,I feel kinda drowsy right now )I'd like to root my DHD but,if possible,without downgrading.Reinstalling everything over again?Nah,too much...

we have almost all the types of roms available for the dhd, we're only missing a miui port.

lukesky said:
we have almost all the types of roms available for the dhd, we're only missing a miui port.
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very true.. we are also losing on devs working on AOSP.. but i guess a MIUI port would be very appreciated by DHD users

Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm satisfied with the Tom development so far, but the Theming area is a bit too small: not enough themes!
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HTC Desire HD gets FCC approval with North American 3G
Could get busier soon.

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HTC Desire HD gets FCC approval with North American 3G
Could get busier soon.
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Hohoho..!
Imagine us DHD users doubling!It'd be a hell of a forum!
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Well,looking at the Desire Z forums makes me feel kinda jealous...
They get more roms,they already got cyanogenmod 7,they got a 2GHz kernel(yeah,I'm such a crazy m0therf^cker I would flash that! ) and so on.I want these things for us too!Plus they would look so much better in 4,3".
What do you guys think?

That was posted in the portal a few days ago in the interview of m-deejay:
orb3000: Are you planning to expand your work to other devices or operating systems in the future? If so, please give us a glimpse.
m-deejay: I think in the near future there will be work for … HTC Desire HD!
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Am I the only one excited about this?

maybe you are right and other phones (may) have more development going on.
I do feel that, the dev. that is going on is of very high quality with good working roms being released, tuned & tweaked kernels being released and so on.
I believe that the source code for 1.72 has not been released yet, preventing OC kernels for this.
Root for 1.72 is available through custom roms, including the 1.72 update (like the LeeDrOid rom I am using).
For me the number of roms is ok....I'd be flashing all the time otherwise

i think there is no time for development.. they all enjoy this phone xD like me..
and waiting for 2.3 from htc is more senseful to continue to cook some roms

Felt good about the X10 today!

I was at a meeting today, the guy next to me had the HTC Evo 4G, looked like a sweet phone, but in the 2 hour meeting the guy had to take the battery out FIVE times because the phone froze on him. In the year I have owned my X10 I have had to do that twice that I can recall. Made me feel pretty good about my trusty x10! Just thought I'd share given all the *****ing about our phone sometimes

That's why I love my phone. Never had any problem with it. Specially now that there's a lot of custom rom out there.

well, after all seems there`s no reason for battery complain
is right where it should be, in battery case
didn`t you tease with the guy? i would!

The X10 is very stable, even with mods.
But the EVO isn't bad, too. Wish they'd sell it here, too. Want at it as my second phone xD
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Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!

Hey guys,
I just sold my HD2 and with the money i bought a brand new x10. I deceided to post a thank-you-all-for-the-support-post at their sub forum and they almost ate me alive. I was called crazy etc, now since i received the brand new package and that i have spent almost 3-4 days of heavy usage i can say honestly the following:
1. From the design point of view the device is awesome, fne and classy.
2. The OS is stable and the harware works just great.
3. From the camera point of view there is not much to compare, actually comparing the cameras of HTC and Sony is pretty insulting i guess.
4. The headphones from the pack are great
So anybody can feel free to diss X10, i can say that the phone is great and i do not regret selling the HD2 for this Sony masterpiece.

I feel sorry for two guys: the owner of the HTC Evo and the guy whom opened a thread asking for opinions about X10, but at the end he will get a Samsung (fa)i(l)Phone Galaxy
F*ck the negativity, f*ck SE's decision, f*ck bootloader, X10 rules!!!

X10 is even cooler than ARC
Hi,
From the design point of view (phone sleeping!) I think that the front-view of X10 is way more balanced than XPERIA ARC. Have you noticed the distance between the top of the screen and the top of the heady phone?
OK, ARC is thin on the side-view but phones do not "walk like the Egyptians"
I would expect that the follow-up on X10 would be something like the attached picture... I love the visual balance of the X10.
Bye,
Alex

roaringhere said:
Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!
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Same for me, I dun have such problem after using my X10 compared to my previous HTC devices.
The user experience for X10 is simply great, SE has done a good job.
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I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.

shaunbu said:
I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.
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just because U installed custom Rom or didn't update properly. Bad luck for U. But it worth to try that U backup everything ( but no the downloaded from market), hard resest. and try to repair by SEUS. Then if U have 0.24 or 0.435 build, everything shuold work fine

I'm gonna cheat on my X10 with the Arc......does that make me horrible? Lol
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last time i did this with symbian phones

The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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enrique71 said:
The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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Well I can't not purchase a new phone being affraid of what bugs it might bring right?
I'm certain the arc is alot better than the x10....only time will tell.
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Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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arkedk said:
Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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Its simple....because some people actually like/love there X10's (myself included) and I do not care about SE and anything they have said. The boys here at XDA have us covered.
The Arc has everything I want in a smartphone....so why wouldn't I buy it? Its fits my needs better than any HTC, Samsung, Motorolla, etc etc.
I don't care about dual core this and dual core that...I don't care about "retina display"
I don't care about my phone having the highest specs possible when released...because in reality, it will be outdated in a month anyways.
SE never promised or said they would give us 2.2+...they have given us what they said they would (except DLNA...bad bad boys for that)
Anyways, I think you understand what Im trying to say...just because your not happy with SE, doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.
Oh...and don't take anything I said "offensive" or "personal"....I wasn't being rude or aggresive
Just thought Id add that before I start a war lol

Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.

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Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.
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+1 for that my friend. SE ui is extremely nice to look at. And the phone styles they create are excellent. I don't think they will be late with updating anymore. I'm sure they learned....and the hard way....they were blasted from all over the globe lol.
The Arc is launching with the newest android os....so that's one step in the right direction right from the start. But if the arc was launching with even froyo....I'd still be on board to buy this phone. I'm not to picky when it comes to android os versions.....well as long as its not lower than 2.1.
PS. I'm actually using you cm rom v4.1 right now....excellent work man....tho I like your old ui without the arc style better.
Best 2.2 rom I've tried tho.
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I pass from iPhone 4 to X10, no complain about it, only the lack of INSTAGRAM, I also have a Samsung Galaxy tab and Exchange email capability is the only one thing better than X10! Both devices are Telcel now unbranded!
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Custom ROM's for SGSII

Hi There!
I notice to date there is just the one custom ROM, and usually (I think) they are coming thick and fast by now. I am not complaining, but wondering if there is a reason other than a lack of stock? Is there less interest in custom ROMS for the SGS II, or is it harder, or is it a case of no point since the phone is brilliant regardless?

Theres a number of factors to consider... Custom roms need skilled devs with the actual phone.. And spare time to work on it.. The devs that make these roms do it for no fee and just because they are good people and want to improve the scene for everyone else.. It will take time and momentum to start seeing different roms.. But great question..
We are very lucky we already have some awesome people on the case like Supercurio who is a legend and has made some incredible things happen to the original Samsung Galaxy..
And pulsar who has made some fantastic Villian roms for the Hero and other phones..
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networkn said:
Hi There!
I notice to date there is just the one custom ROM, and usually (I think) they are coming thick and fast by now. I am not complaining, but wondering if there is a reason other than a lack of stock? Is there less interest in custom ROMS for the SGS II, or is it harder, or is it a case of no point since the phone is brilliant regardless?
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For me, it's lack of time...
I'm trying to write some apps for the SGS2, whilst juggling a load of "real" work as well...
I think I'll start to look at a VERY stripped down rom in the next week or so
But yes, as stated above, I only got the phone on Wednesday, so I'm actually trying to still figure out what I like about it, and what I don't... So for a huge number of people, the phone is still only 2 days old
I'll try and get some more VRTweaks up, then we can look at having some fun and seeing how lean we can make this thing
And yeah, this don't pay the bills, other stuff does that, so there's only a few hours each day available...

Also worth considering is that this is a very new device. I've come over from the SGS which I only bought in February, and there are still an enormous amount of themes/ROMs being made for it, and the SGS is ca. 1 year old. And I think I tried every one of them too.
All good things come to he who waits..

Most important thing we're all waiting for CWM or other recovery to flash unsigned zips
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Devs have to buy their own phones .
jje

Just hang in there mate .. they will come and then its fun time ;0)

Should I buy Milo2?

Hi guys, I will get new phone and I don't know, if I should hope for unlock bootloader for M2 and for new devs, or I should buy Desire Z with ****ty keyboard or I should buy some phone (I will get money back because my phone is third time on repairing) and sell it for some money. Can you help me?

hey there, M2 is not really bad phone, there iss currently a developer working on bypassing the locked bootloader (Mikevhl), also there is a new version of cooked ROM coming from santiemanuel. There were some leaks about GB coming for M2 and unlocking the bootloader in Q3 this year It's not a bad phone, I love my keyboard, the speed and performance all together, decent phone for decent price with the best qwerty keyboard! I had M1 before and I miss a bit cyanogenmod but still, the younger brother can kick harder cause of better hardware.
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I recommend you to wait for Milestone 3 to be sure to get Gingerbread or better.

Don't talk to me like I have didn't been here . I am reading whole MM2 section about a 5 months. Nothing changed, Angroid still ****in on us, AOSP ROM can't be finished because bootloader, Mike still didn't finded a solution and we still have only 1 Custom ROM. Keyboard is really great instead of Desire Z'es one. I can only wait to October this year, and in that fact, I think it will be introduced only Droid 3 and not Milestone 3. Also It will be quite expensive and I am student and I don't want to spend so much money for just a phone.

It will be a global version so you can buy it in the US and using in other countries. I think 459$ in the USA isn't really much

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Don't talk to me like I have didn't been here . I am reading whole MM2 section about a 5 months. Nothing changed, Angroid still ****in on us, AOSP ROM can't be finished because bootloader, Mike still didn't finded a solution and we still have only 1 Custom ROM. Keyboard is really great instead of Desire Z'es one. I can only wait to October this year, and in that fact, I think it will be introduced only Droid 3 and not Milestone 3. Also It will be quite expensive and I am student and I don't want to spend so much money for just a phone.
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Nopes, you shouldn't buy a Milestone2 cause Motorola sucks really bad on updates and locked bootloaders. If the keyboard isn't that important to you get a Nexus S. You can get used to swype in no time.

r2beta0 said:
Nopes, you shouldn't buy a Milestone2 cause Motorola sucks really bad on updates and locked bootloaders. If the keyboard isn't that important to you get a Nexus S. You can get used to swype in no time.
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I agree with you.

I'd say get a DZ and the keyboard/hinge are actually awesome! I had my doubts at first.
Now I'm chilling on the MT4G waiting on the slide version which should be insane!
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Either wait for ms3 or get a desire z!
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OK, thank you. I will buy DesireZ

I could say: the right choice http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-desire-z-getting-gingerbread-in-the-coming-weeks
Otherwise: I will wait for the Xperia Pro. Desire Z, I don't like your style

No more X10 :'(

Well guys, I've had my X10 for a year now and it's been a nice device for me but the time has come to move on. When I first got it, Android 1.6 Cupcake was on it. I then found XDA forums and got the balls to root and debrand it and flashed it to 2.1 Eclair. Then Gingerbread came out and I got tired of waiting for AT&T to release the update for it so again, flashed it to a custom rom made by Wolfbreak. His work made the phone really shine and gave me infinitely more control over it, not to mention made it noticeably faster, smoother and equally stable. It's because of him that I kept it as long as I did.
But now with Ice Cream Sandwich coming out soon and knowing the X10 hardware wasn't going to get it I decided to step up to something more future-proof and snatched up a Motorola Atrix 2 at Best Buy for $49.99. I hope you guys felt I was an asset to the forum the short time I was here, I'll check in every now and then and help when possible.
Lastly, I'd like to give a special thanks not only to Wolfbreak for his awesome work, but all the other Dev's who devote their time to doing what they do which allows us to enjoy our devices that much more. AyDee, your work on the Envy theme for use with Wolfbreaks 2.3 rom made me fall in love with my phone...WB gave it the performance, you gave it the good looks. I appreciate all that you guys have done for me and my device and wish you guys the best of luck in your future endeavors.
Adios amigos!

Damn dude you're too kind!
Well this is more of a "see you later" than goodbye. Everyone comes back to X10 forums once in a while. There may be better phones but there are no better forums!
Have fun with the new phone. Just don't come back here bragging how much better it is. Lol j/k
Cheers buddy.

AyDee said:
Damn dude you're too kind!
Well this is more of a "see you later" than goodbye. Everyone comes back to X10 forums once in a while. There may be better phones but there are no better forums!
Have fun with the new phone. Just don't come back here bragging how much better it is. Lol j/k
Cheers buddy.
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Haha so true, half the people in the x10 forums don't even have x10's we're just here because of the craziness here and environment of the x10 community. Also, the x10 was my first ever android phone.

I keep coming back and I got my atrix 1. The x10 forum keeps me amused, especially the general talk thread. That thread is the place to be.
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Motorola plan to upgrade their device(some) to ICS....just finger crossed your device is one of addition in their upgrade list
http://getandroidstuff.com/ice-crea...om-devices-coming-6-weeks-android-40-release/
cheers

I've loaded Corbato's MUIU and I'm loving it. It's breathed new life into my X10, and I'm happier with my X10 than ever.

even i did sold my x10 and got SGS2. still i always comeback to the x10 forum.

You guys were alot of help to me, without this place I don't think I would have rooted my phone and discovered Wolfbreaks rom, not to mention all the other things you guys helped me do and/or figure out. I'll check in from time to time for sure