Newbie here (well somewhat) - Epic 4G General

First things first, I will go ahead and introduce myself to the world of xda. I am 24 years old, stable job and steady income. I'm currently in the beginning stages of what may formulate into my future career. Android developement. I have so many questions to ask. But first things first. Do I need to know java? I seem to discourage myself from making any real progress with programming mostly because I feel out of touch with the community.
I have never been one to stick with forums. Though now I intend to truly participate within this community now. I already use eclipse with the android sdk. But my real question here is, do I need to know Java? Thanks. I hope that I can become a great addition to the community and hope to participate and contribute as well.
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Learn as many languages as you can...
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I know enough about c++ to grasp a lot of other langs. But I am rusty. Can't believe that was the only reply... lol
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Java is a Major part of Android Development... I'd get as used to it as possible.

well, i cant be of much help in terms of telling you what to learn/do, but i will say a pre-thanks. I love these forums and they wouldnt be possible without all the developers. so good job
as for developing.. well.. i bet there's probably an app for it lol. or an e-book
good luck!

ecooce said:
Learn as many languages as you can...
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as long as one of them is java.
other than that have fun and think outside the box.

Thank you guys, btw I work for sprint ( plz dont bash me ) I am one of the top agents in my dept. alrea dy have my hello world app running on emulator, cant wait to make some progress, my god I believe I have the worst spelling on my phone
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nandroide said:
Thank you guys, btw I work for sprint ( plz dont bash me ) I am one of the top agents in my dept. alrea dy have my hello world app running on emulator, cant wait to make some progress, my god I believe I have the worst spelling on my phone
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We do have a keyboard lag fix for that...

Thanks will look into it
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Developers Wanted!!

Okay, I am putting together a team of developers to work on MIUI for our Epic. I have a few dev's already on board and we would like as many as possible to work on it! If you are interested PLEASE reply to this thread or PM me. I've got an IRC set up and we'll make sure to make it a team effort!
First. Sorry iSaint...
is ahmgsk not working on it anymore?
I thought that there was one being worked on still is all.
... Edited: Sorry I went to his old thread on sense and someone said he moved on to another phone perhaps.
Im so willing to test if that helps
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darkierawr said:
First. Sorry iSaint...
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Damn you !!
... Sorry me knows nothing about development but i am a hell of a tester
darkierawr said:
First. Sorry iSaint...
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Too funny
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I'm also no good at coding, but I can test as well if need be.
Is there a android dev. For dummys book i would help lol
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That's always been the problem. Lots of testers, but not enough devs. Is there a good how to?
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Id gladly be a tester also. If u want a tester pm me. I have plenty of time for testing and reporting issues
MiUi is built from source, right? If it wasn't, I might actually be able to help
readingkeeper said:
MiUi is built from source, right? If it wasn't, I might actually be able to help
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No. There is no MIUI source.
marcusant said:
No. There is no MIUI source.
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Well, I meant AOSP source. Like how CM7 is.
notsosmrtgeek said:
Is there a android dev. For dummys book i would help lol
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Java and C++ for dummies?
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Learning to be a dev takes a while because you need to develop skills that are necessary to code and such. Habits such as writing clean code and commenting out parts of code also need to be formed. I took an introductory comp. science course in college, but i haven't really practiced nor even attempted to look at developing for android as i know its a whole new world and i simply do not have the time to do it. But ladies and gentlemen, if you want to do it, nothing is stopping you, but just be sure that it is NOT easy and will take a couple of years or more until you are able to help with more than just bug testing unfortunately. And before anyone says that i am flaming or trolling, i am not, i am simply stating the truth and on top of that, I am in the same boat as you are, helpless to the devs. All I can do is donate some of my paycheck every now and then for exceptional work. I and we all owe it to these devs for making our phone work well and, as far as I'm concerned, they deserve it.
I would also love to help, but I just now started learning code on my "free" free time, its hard to remeber the format of the code,just that alone is a nightmare...
DOS was childs play compared to writing anything for android, I'm a pc guy,used to using windows UI or DOS back in the day when I was 14...
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Will u be working on a GB miui or froyo
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Going to school for programming over here, I'll be self teaching myself java, and reading up on android books here shortly. Once i've the money to purchase the necessary books.
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Going to school for programming over here, I'll be self teaching myself java, and reading up on android books here shortly. Once i've the money to purchase the necessary books.
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while we're on the topic, to what books are you referring ??
I'm definitely interested in some reading material.. while I can't help w/ coding and such (right now) I think it's a good time for me to get started reading and playing (on my device anyway)
I have tried MIUI
I honestly just dont care much for it it is built from its own source originally built in asia it is coded in I believe chinese and ported over to english and thus has been ported to different devices it was first ported to the og droid it is not built from aosp or any other android released source it is a ui built all its own.

Respect

I think some people need to learn respect it has become apparent that if anyone maybe new to xda and posts in the wrong section they are ridiculed and bashed give those people some common respect.
And refer then to the right section
And for people who post ideas about root there trying to help so see above so some respect and don't bash them for trying to help
And if you wanna bash me go ahead I don't care
I just hope people can have some humanity and respect
Peace out Omgadroid
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You probably shouldn't have posted this in Evo 4G Android Development...
with all do respect
It's for the people who bash people here I've seen most of it here
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Oh gawd
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.
With all respect of respectful things i must respectfully agree that the amount of disrespect is not respectful at all and those disrespecting those new comers that deserve respect need be disrespected themselves respectfully of course but those who are respected must not be disrespectful as they shall be disrespected to the highest level of disrespect of all things disrespectful respectfully....
Lol yea I did use respect a lot
Big ol 4 times
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READ THE RULES!
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eVoKINGS said:
READ THE RULES!
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Love your work btw
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Thanks jokin really!
You can't win with the arrogance and trolls bro!
Mods are gonna remove yur post anyways!
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I know they will just had something to say so I did
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Thanks for the Rom. Glad xda has so many helpful devs now-a-days
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I can't wait to flash this sweet Windows Phone 7 rom. Can't believe you got it to work.
OP, it's "they're" not "there. Respect, this should be in the general section.
*sigh* Hypocrite
Although I understand what your are trying to say and yes some respect is do those new to XDA should take 20 seconds maybe less to read the categories when you come in to the supersonic forums and they will be able to tell where they go. Anyways we will never run out of sarcastic aholes so this will never end thats just they way it is.
This is an "ancient" phone anyway -- all the disrespectful people have moved on to the bleeding edge of newer phones. Just us appreciative late-comers here now!
No no no my desktop is wayyy older mac g5 tower running fedora lol
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Wait!!!! Dont tell me, this is an I Phone 5 Port right? Does this require i Downgrade the Hardware and Decelerate? Thanks for this port
Always wanted to do that! seriously though I agree with op but the rule are very easily found and i think it should be a requirement to read them before your able to register
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Wait!!!! Dont tell me, this is an I Phone 5 Port right? Does this require i Downgrade the Hardware and Decelerate? Thanks for this port
Always wanted to do that! seriously though I agree with op but the rule are very easily found and i think it should be a requirement to read them before your able to register
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I bet DC13 made a rom for that already. Pretty icons and all.
This is what happens when source isn't released and root isn't gained.
Nice.
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Dev wanted

Okay, I have been around the forums and contributed to roms here and there. I am wanting to learn more development. The mods I have made have had there place but I want to build my own rom for both my own personal use, and to share with the community.
That being said, I have a lot to learn. I am looking for a dev who is willing to conspire on a little project I want to do. Help me learn the things I need to know to finish this project I have started. I will not attempt to take full credit for what comes of this. Proper credit will be given to those who assist. Especially being I am lacking a lot of knowledge.
If anyone is interested, please pm me. If not, I'm sure in due time I will figure it out. I would appreciate any help that anyone is willing to provide. Thank you to our great devs for keeping our devices alive for so long! I am hoping to contribute to the longevity of our devices as well!
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I'll help with whatever I can pm sent
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Ill help as well...ill be ur yoda...
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I'd love to start learning, but seems every time I ask about where to start I get either ignored or told to use Google. Lol
I've got lots of windows knowledge, training, etc. But Linux is like a foreign language.
Where can I look to start playing other than a kitchen, that's not development.
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cbucz24 said:
I'd love to start learning, but seems every time I ask about where to start I get either ignored or told to use Google. Lol
I've got lots of windows knowledge, training, etc. But Linux is like a foreign language.
Where can I look to start playing other than a kitchen, that's not development.
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Google it lmao...jk
Check out google aosp ans github and tge google android developers site. Read some of the guides on here. Start small...work on theming an apk...then modding apks...then system mods...then go to roms. If ur looking for apk dev tgen tgere are sites to help but a lot of that takes a ton of reading with trial and error
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Papa Smurf151 said:
Google it lmao...jk
Check out google aosp ans github and tge google android developers site. Read some of the guides on here. Start small...work on theming an apk...then modding apks...then system mods...then go to roms. If ur looking for apk dev tgen tgere are sites to help but a lot of that takes a ton of reading with trial and error
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:what: lol thanks
I didn't think I was going to read a few paragraphs an be able to build a rom. I took 2 years of c++ and Java, I know how much a hassle coding can be.
So many times I'd click compile and it'd throw 3000+ errors from a comma placement.
At least I got a direction. Thanks papa! I love your mighty smurf! It kicks ass
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cbucz24 said:
:what: lol thanks
I didn't think I was going to read a few paragraphs an be able to build a rom. I took 2 years of c++ and Java, I know how much a hassle coding can be.
So many times I'd click compile and it'd throw 3000+ errors from a comma placement.
At least I got a direction. Thanks papa! I love your mighty smurf! It kicks ass
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If u run into errors hit me on gtalk [email protected]
Ill help where I can
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Mind if I add you on gtalk papa smurf
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Okay, so my main issue is porting a tweaks apk into my rom. I need someone who is willing to collaborate with me on this project. Someone who knows smali and can not only assist but educate. All credit will be shared for the assistance provided. Who's willing to go to work? Will resume working on this project tomorrow night.
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Let's together build and solve!

The best thing about xda is the vastness of knowledge,profound by any means ,, so my suggestion is why cant we all together[I mean who use xda and x10 (still seriously)]share our knowledge and then whole community can be the developer.
Its like, you know how to do, he knows how to pack..... Or atleast we could all learn!
There are still many threads teaching and stuff but none to actually and mutually promote learning!
I have been following this forum since long and am pitching just when everything looks dull, hope I find the right frequency.:thumbup:
I dont want my device to stagnate
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blueurge said:
The best thing about xda is the vastness of knowledge,profound by any means ,, so my suggestion is why cant we all together[I mean who use xda and x10 (still seriously)]share our knowledge and then whole community can be the developer.
Its like, you know how to do, he knows how to pack..... Or atleast we could all learn!
There are still many threads teaching and stuff but none to actually and mutually promote learning!
I have been following this forum since long and am pitching just when everything looks dull, hope I find the right frequency.:thumbup:
I dont want my device to stagnate
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I use my x10....seriously...
I used to check xda updates on my xda app, but it got slower and slower and soon i just got bored checking the forum, because no new threads, posts, really dull,
but im not gonna buy a new phone
same here "I dont want my device to stagnate"
I just bought few books about android building and stuff,, I really dont know where to start but took a clue from champ's ultimate guide!! It ll take time I am pretty sure!
But I wont let it just stagnate
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Hi,
this is a good idea, but we have a Thread from Champ.
In this Thread is all clear and very helpfull..
I can personal help out with problems, builds, fix issues....
Only Kernel cooking is not my lovely stuff..
But i must personaly say...the performance is finish.
We can not more give..we have not enough RAM.
:crying::crying:we must accept that the time is more and more to end..with our GREAT x10:crying::crying:
but i will always help
First thing,can we have all that we got to achieve,, I mean some sort of goal, this could make work focussed.
It would be like, ics bug free... Or try (realllly hard) to get a jb! How much ever buggy, god am already dreaming!
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MF3 eta?

Is there any eta on when we are going to be able to flash these phones? I cant wait!! Lol
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You're going to have to. Eta's are frowned upon on xda.
Was just curious if anyone has heard anything. New to Android
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dankify said:
Was just curious if anyone has heard anything. New to Android
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A lot of reading and searching will get you the answers not creating a new thread eta on stuff.
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Lots of nice people on droid. Awesome!!
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Understand your frustration - all of those with the bad luck of having or OTA'ing to MF3 are going bonkers. . .Really don't have any clue since this appears to be one of the truly hard fixes (oops... exploits) to find.
As to friendly Android folks, well actually there are. Even here . OK, you are right that XDA is different. Some threads are rather prickly and if you jump in with a "stray" comment they jump in and flame and complain.
But other threads are more mellow; and you can see the same, same, same, same, same, same, same, same, question asked again and again and someone will politely (more or less) answer these queries or refer the questioner to the right spot. . . So, that's not unusual. (sorry, the hot/repeat question these days seems to be . . . .MF3 ETA! :crying
But all this in not unique to Android. In the Apple support pages, which I frequent every now and then for my MAC issues, I found some rather brusque replies and non-helpful at that! It's not a function of OS. . .it's people and organizational/group culture.
XDA is a real mix of intense, "bleeding-edge" developers and users, who push their software and hardware in very dynamic ways, but who also can be edgy -and not in a good way.
XDA also has "normal" folks, who drop in for help, or add something they like and (unfortunately) sometimes even want to share it with others .
Finally, XDA has people (some with surprisingly high numbers of posts!) who have hardware or software problems and need help, but are also clueless. Sometimes folks in this last group are in need of help AND they are impatient or even demanding of the reply posters. . . that's kind of not a good approach!
I guess that makes XDA sort of like real life, it all depends upon who you meet!
There is no doubt that XDA can be a bit off-putting if you don't connect in the right way for the particular thread. but is that happens, don't worry about it! The next thread will be more helpful or understandable, or maybe even friendly . . .
Good Luck
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Lots of nice people on droid. Awesome!!
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There are plenty of nice people dankify... I'm one of them. But when I saw the title of this thread, my mind instantly went "uh oh".
It's something most of us had to learn on XDA, and it's usually the first lesson. Never ask for ETAs for anything. Never ever ever. There are some that get very bent about it, and in some cases understandably so, since everything done on here is done by donation and lots of thankless free time.
I'm no coder, I'm a leech, so I just try to help out where I can. I'm waiting for the MF3 bootloader unlock too, and it'll come. We just have to watch the forums and be patient.
Also, welcome to Android. I think you're going to find that you like it here, this one bump in the road aside
I appreciate it. Ya I'm so glad to have gotten rid of my crapy apple. Am able to do so much without mods that was needed on the iPhone to even do some. Can't imagine how cool it will be to get a custom rom. Hopefully soon
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I appreciate it. Ya I'm so glad to have gotten rid of my crapy apple. Am able to do so much without mods that was needed on the iPhone to even do some. Can't imagine how cool it will be to get a custom rom. Hopefully soon
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Sorry man, there are a lot of friendly and helpful people here. Just some etiquette to learn as many of us have been here a long time. The best thing you can do is read, read and learn. You'll always get a helping hand if you follow that. Welcome and the best to you!

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