Its MY data and I want it NOW! - EVO 4G General

Read the title, do you feel the same way? Are you tired of paying the extra $10 and getting nothing in return? I really dont even care that 4g is not in my area, what does kill me is the reduction in my 3g speeds Up untill 2 or 3 months ago I was pulling 1MB average for downloads, a few weeks before the new PRL's came out this was reduced to .3 MB's. So after a month of this CRAP I did the Verizon PRL trick, I now get 1.4 MB's or so down I was happy as can be again, untill yesterday I read a thread by member jorpe who is getting his service cut off via sprint for roaming to much, thread located HERE. jorpe was NOT using the Verizon hack, he was just roaming quite a bit and watch movies while doing it. I personally tend to stay under 5 gigs per month on all 3 of my phones combined! Do I have anything to worry about here? I have been with sprint for over 10 years, am gold, can call and get what I need from them with no hassle (replacement phones). I do NOT want to lose my account over this PRL thing. But I feel like I am entitled to this speed supplied by the verizon PRL. After all "Its MY data and I want it NOW".
Thoughts???
With BOTH of the sprint PRL's thew speed starts fast then drops way down in the middle of test, then ramps back up at the end, thus appearing to be fast. The average person looks at the download when it starts, its good speed, set the phone down and speed drops. Then one picks it up again to see how far along download is, speed has picked up again (towards end), user thinks download speed has been fast the whole time Its a conspiracy I tell you!!!
test @ 5:25 am on 60677 PRL sprints before 00015
test @ 5:14 am on 00015 PRL sprints latest
test @ 5:03 am on 00001 PRL verizon hack
edit...i think i will alternate PRL's, do the verizon hack for a month, then do the faster of the 2 sprints for a month. I know I am going to get yelled at by people saying the PRL makes no difference in my download speeds, but I beg to differ, I have ran plenty of tests right here from my own phone. basic math tells me there IS a difference

No need for another thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933900
from my phone duh

CheesyNutz said:
No need for another thread
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cordell12 said:
wasted space
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Wasted thread
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wasted time!

I hate to say it.....but I think this one is going to get ugly. I'm staying away (after this post ofcourse).
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yeah next time i post i will make sure it is a port of sense 3.8
oh, after i post the mod to over clock our processor to 2.7 stable
i am looking for help in my WIP/DEV on controlling my SD Card from my phone, i just dont understand why it is mounting as soon as i connect the cable though
i mean after all because to post my experiences and or thoughts in a forum labeled "General" would be totally uncalled for.
my bad

Whether you use 1MB or 500Gigs, if you spend 50% or more of your time roaming, you can get the boot.

cordell12 said:
Read the title, do you feel the same way? Are you tired of paying the extra $10 and getting nothing in return? I really dont even care that 4g is not in my area, what does kill me is the reduction in my 3g speeds Up untill 2 or 3 months ago I was pulling 1MB average for downloads, a few weeks before the new PRL's came out this was reduced to .3 MB's. So after a month of this CRAP I did the Verizon PRL trick, I now get 1.4 MB's or so down I was happy as can be again, untill yesterday I read a thread by member jorpe who is getting his service cut off via sprint for roaming to much, thread located HERE. jorpe was NOT using the Verizon hack, he was just roaming quite a bit and watch movies while doing it. I personally tend to stay under 5 gigs per month on all 3 of my phones combined! Do I have anything to worry about here? I have been with sprint for over 10 years, am gold, can call and get what I need from them with no hassle (replacement phones). I do NOT want to lose my account over this PRL thing. But I feel like I am entitled to this speed supplied by the verizon PRL. After all "Its MY data and I want it NOW".
Thoughts???
With BOTH of the sprint PRL's thew speed starts fast then drops way down in the middle of test, then ramps back up at the end, thus appearing to be fast. The average person looks at the download when it starts, its good speed, set the phone down and speed drops. Then one picks it up again to see how far along download is, speed has picked up again (towards end), user thinks download speed has been fast the whole time Its a conspiracy I tell you!!!
test @ 5:25 am on 60677 PRL sprints before 00015
test @ 5:14 am on 00015 PRL sprints latest
test @ 5:03 am on 00001 PRL verizon hack
edit...i think i will alternate PRL's, do the verizon hack for a month, then do the faster of the 2 sprints for a month. I know I am going to get yelled at by people saying the PRL makes no difference in my download speeds, but I beg to differ, I have ran plenty of tests right here from my own phone. basic math tells me there IS a difference
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No speed increase with 1.4 pri

I finally after 7 hours of work, got my PRI updated to 1.4 and got all my original stuff back and I am updated to the tilt with all current version of everything.
I just finished my speed tests and have found that this 1.4 PRI update has done nothing to increase my 3g speed.
Backstory:
My speed at work dropped from 1mb in June to 125kb (looks like it is capped) two weeks ago. I have done everything in my power to fix it. Nothing has worked and Sprint is not saying anything.
Hope this saves someone time and effort.
There was a tower at my house that was bad. Packet loss was in the thousands when I looked at it on my aircard. It took them over a year to fix it.
I had the same issue you did. went from good speeds to crap.
Did yours appear to be capped? My speed hits that 128kb mark and just stops, everytime.
I've had pretty much the same exact thing in my house... Went from 1mb+ on 3g to around 200-300 kbs. However, after the PRI update I am getting a slight raise in dl speed. around 500-600 now....
My signal strength is still weak and has not improved at all however, which is what I was really hoping for with the pri update....
Honestly...all of this bullsht with sprint makes me want to go back to tmobile. I left them because I was getting terrible signal strength...but i'm getting the same thing with sprint. /: at least tmobile has beast 3g speeds and the vibrant........
ahhh well. I still love my Evo.
Its a known fact that sprint is capping data.
PRI updates only affect a small percentage of users, used for when sprint brings new towers online. Chances are you have no new towers in your area.
Unfortunately, this is the wrong forum to post this, so you may get flamed.
Pri does not affect speed directly, it affects your data access times...pings. So with the new update and possibly lower pings, you will generally see faster response times in the web browser as compared to what you have had before.
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
I now have 4g after this update
aman1127 said:
I now have 4g after this update
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lol.... what?
I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
Nothing changed for me, still around 1MB... I didn't really expect anything but why not... BTW Those that are complaining about horrible signal at home address, call sprint and have them give you airave for free. I did that on my first month of service and been much happier ever since.
Sawawa said:
I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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I agree, but there is something to be said for sprint pushing/making the update available.
In any case, I've found that the sprint network can not be considered anywhere near consistent, 3g or 4g, pri 1.34 or 1.40.
jasecloud4 said:
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I don't know if they do throttle or maybe its a case by case thing. Last month I used 13gbs of data since this is now my primary source of internet. I still get 2-3mbps
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Sawawa said:
I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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+1 agreed.
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damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.
v_lestat said:
damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.
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Yup. You can download however fast you want but if you can't connect to the server itself in a timely manner then that fast down speed doesn't really matter.
jasecloud4 said:
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I have to see what I used in July, probably 2g...however, my speed didn't pick up when August hit. Anyway, I just posted this because I saw the instruction thread on the PRI was closed. Well, I will just keep calling Sprint and telling them my work zip code sucks now.
I can confirm there is no 3G speed difference between PRI 1.40_003 & 1.34_003 as I have run speedtest.net on my wife's unrooted Evo and mine simultaneously. Our speeds are similar and also similarly vary between 200 - 1100 kbps while driving from downtown San Francisco heading north for 20 minutes or so.
I'm guessing poor 3G speeds are determined by specific tower and load - but definitely not by PRI version.
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No difference here and it broke the prl hack i use to get evdo service. I reverted back to eng build and all is good again. Minus the 7 hours of pri fix attempts.
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4g downlaod speed is going to be capped :(

I used to get 4g conenction in only certain aprts of Brooklyn and the speeds ranged from 8-10 mbps when I had a full conenction. Now I get a full connection everywhere in Brooklyn, NYC, etc and I average 4-6 mbps. Usually 4.x though which is saddening.
My boss told me a company known as Clear is the one that sets up the 4g for Sprint and if you go on their site they offer 2 plans. a 10mbps plan and a 6mbps plan and I'm pretty sure they are giving us the 6mbps plan which is BS since we were told that we can get speeds as fast as 10mbps on our Evo's and Epic's. Show me your results though if I'm wrong, but ever since Clear services went active my speeds dropped from 9.xx-10.xx to 4.xx-5.xxmpbs which is perfectly fine for a phone, but I was hoping to set this up as my primary internet since cablevision is so ****ing unreliable.
they have talked about adding caps for a long time now, sprint especially, the load has been straining for both companies which is why some parts oh my area dont go past 2.5Mb/s right now but a block down it reaches 6Mb/s and 2 further blocks we get 9.8Mb/s, lately the 2.5 are has been reaching 6 and the 9 has dropped to 6, they cant keep throttling forever, so long as the caps and plans are reasonable i dont see too much of a problem
i dont see a big deal my 3g speeds are great only reason you would be unhappy about a cap is if your one of them clowns downloading gigs at a time .
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i dont see a big deal my 3g speeds are great only reason you would be unhappy about a cap is if your one of them clowns downloading gigs at a time .
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I'm not going to lie I did try that too see how fast it could go, but I didn't need it for that. I just think the 10mbps was soo much more faster than the 4-5 I'm getting now and all I've been using it for is surfing the web on my desktop and maybe a few video calls, because my cablevision is giving me 1 mbps down and 2mpbs up and they say it's the modem, but I replaced the modem and it's still the same so they are coming back next week to change it again so I wanted to sue this until I got my cable back.
Also my 3g speeds are terrible. I get around .2-.5 mbps tops.
For the longest time I've been getting 3-4 Mbps downloads on 4G. Suddenly tonight, I popped this 12+ Mbps. Holy carp. Seriously.
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i dont see a big deal my 3g speeds are great only reason you would be unhappy about a cap is if your one of them clowns downloading gigs at a time .
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shut UP holy ****ing god.
Sprint NEVER does anything wrong. We should make our own little Sprint subforum for you so you can suck their tit somewhere else.
i hope not today i have nice 4g
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I just think the 10mbps was soo much more faster than the 4-5 I'm getting now
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You are correct. 10 is substantially faster. Twice as fast.
I doubt there is a cap yet, likely it's a signal or load issue.
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i dont see a big deal my 3g speeds are great only reason you would be unhappy about a cap is if your one of them clowns downloading gigs at a time .
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+2 lol..
Classic... Dan Hesse did say we need to work together to be *free*
Sent From The Moon...
werxen said:
shut UP holy ****ing god.
Sprint NEVER does anything wrong. We should make our own little Sprint subforum for you so you can suck their tit somewhere else.
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internet rage ROFL
don't like what i have to say IGNORE me PLEASE !
Less Enjoyable...
Sporkman said:
internet rage ROFL
don't like what i have to say IGNORE me PLEASE !
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For someone with over 2600 posts I have NEVER seen anything informative from you and incase you didnt read the OP is talking about 4G NOT 3G... Also I pay for what I get if I want to download **** I will. I dont need some fourm troll telling me what I can and cant do, hell you should be getting a check from sprint at this point but I'll bet your still paying them ha ha ha.
Thanks,
To OP, I have also noticed that my 4G speeds have been getting throttled. Its obvious when you hit 8MB then it just continues to bounce off 6MB.
Best,
jpatterson350 said:
To OP, I have also noticed that my 4G speeds have been getting throttled. Its obvious when you hit 8MB then it just continues to bounce off 6MB.
Best,
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Try the speakeasy web based test.
Sporkman said:
internet rage ROFL
don't like what i have to say IGNORE me PLEASE !
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IDEA!!
I think we should start a new thread with a bounty to buy you a different device so we can get you out of the EVO forum. It's difficult to ignore you and your comments on every post of every page. When I look at some of the contributers with just 200-1000 posts I see they bring valued substance to a post where as you bring drama, immature comments and questions that have been answered two pages back.
Thanks for making my time on XDA less enjoyable, and its not internet rage its not whatever your going to say to make yourself feel better its YOU!
uniquenameevo said:
You are correct. 10 is substantially faster. Twice as fast.
I doubt there is a cap yet, likely it's a signal or load issue.
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Well maybe it's just for NYC, but you can see that it tries to pass 6 and NEVER succeeds. Once it gets close to 6 it rapidly declines and tried to fight it's way back which would make perfect sense if they've given certain areas a 6mbps down limit. Before it use to do the same thing, but it would pass 6 easily and make it to 10 and then start throttling.
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IDEA!!
I think we should start a new thread with a bounty to buy you a different device so we can get you out of the EVO forum. It's difficult to ignore you and your comments on every post of every page. When I look at some of the contributers with just 200-1000 posts I see they bring valued substance to a post where as you bring drama, immature comments and questions that have been answered two pages back.
Thanks for making my time on XDA less enjoyable, and its not internet rage its not whatever your going to say to make yourself feel better its YOU!
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Seriously.
Still getting 7-9mb down on 4g in northern NJ.
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Well maybe it's just for NYC
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You know, the NYC makes me wonder. I know wimax sucks at penetrating buildings. Could being surrounded be affecting you? Any chance you could try near or line of sight to a tower?
Just a thought since sadly I don't think we can determine the true signal strength we get on 4G.
I'm in Brooklyn, flashed back to a Sense ROM and yup, it's hovering on 6 Mbps -- I used to get 6-9 Mbps a month ago.
Folks... you get 6+ from sprint only until they formally launch in a city. Probably because of network testing. After that your gonna get capped at about 5mb. Supposedly, it has more to do with a mobile device on the network than limits on their customers. With other providers coming out with faster networks I doubt sprint would really want to cap it.
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Uncapped Data - Possible on the X

So i was looking to update the rom on the wifes DInc and ran across this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891047
Possible on the X?
I guess dont get it...don't we already have unlimited data?
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agreed... i assumed the same. however, the post makes it sound like they begin to throttle the throughput at some point and this hack prevents that.
Unlimited data is what we have, but this hack removes data throttling verizon does. I did it on my inc (wifes phone) and the download speed doubled
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would it work the same on our X's?
Interesting... Hmmmm...
how much data do you have to use before they start throttling you?
I use around 2GB/month and couldn't really imagine using much more with 3G. It's pretty damn slow.
Ive never even heard of a data cap... im a verizon rep and the only thing I do know about is that if your monthly data hits 5 gigs + that your account is notated, because its nearly impossible to hit 5g a month on a cellphone unless your rooted and using it illegally as a free wireless hotspot and running your whole house off of it
I will try to break it down Crayola style...
What this does is removes any sort of throttle that VzDubya puts. Yes our phones have "unlimited" data on them BUT if you go over 5G in a month they limit your throughput to lets say 300kbps.
Another situation is that in some areas of congestion they will put blanket throttles to an area rather then a specific device. This is done to ensure there is little network degradation. This is why during rush hour you can only do 600kbps when at 2am it will go to 1.6Mbps with no real changes but the time of day.
This makes it so you wont be effected by said situations. So if you're in an area where this is not done or you dont use over 5G in a month this wont have any effect on your phone.
thanks. wouldn't help me then... and i assume most folks. i consider myself a pretty average to maybe average-heavy net user on my phone simply because i subscribe to mog and stream/download music often... and even so, haven't ever hit 5gigs on my phone in a month.
blubyu87gt said:
I will try to break it down Crayola style...
What this does is removes any sort of throttle that VzDubya puts. Yes our phones have "unlimited" data on them BUT if you go over 5G in a month they limit your throughput to lets say 300kbps.
Another situation is that in some areas of congestion they will put blanket throttles to an area rather then a specific device. This is done to ensure there is little network degradation. This is why during rush hour you can only do 600kbps when at 2am it will go to 1.6Mbps with no real changes but the time of day.
This makes it so you wont be effected by said situations. So if you're in an area where this is not done or you dont use over 5G in a month this wont have any effect on your phone.
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What's there to lose? Avoiding any kind of throttling? I've done this on my phone, if nothing else but to stick it to the MAN.
I agree. Nothing to loose from doing it. Also if you travel (and that I do a lot of) and happen to go to an area where the blanket throttle is implemented then you (and all the other xda junkies!) will not even notice!
Joe92T said:
Ive never even heard of a data cap... im a verizon rep and the only thing I do know about is that if your monthly data hits 5 gigs + that your account is notated, because its nearly impossible to hit 5g a month on a cellphone unless your rooted and using it illegally as a free wireless hotspot and running your whole house off of it
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I call bull**** on this. You DO NOT have to be rooted to tether. They sell PDAnet in the market.
Try again..
LexusBrian400 said:
I call bull**** on this. You DO NOT have to be rooted to tether. They sell PDAnet in the market.
Try again..
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You can go over without tethering. This its a modification to system files. You do have to be rooted to do that. All people are saying is that verizon throttles data speeds, especially for heavy users. Your data still works, out is just much slower.
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You can go over without tethering. This its a modification to system files. You do have to be rooted to do that. All people are saying is that verizon throttles data speeds, especially for heavy users. Your data still works, out is just much slower.
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I dont think u read what I quoted. he said you had to be rooted to tether. All I was saying is thats not true. PDAnet in the market allows you to tether.. no root needed. I wasnt talking about this hack.
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I dont think u read what I quoted. he said you had to be rooted to tether. All I was saying is thats not true. PDAnet in the market allows you to tether.. no root needed. I wasnt talking about this hack.
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Ah...after reading his post again he obviously doesn't know much about data. I can go way over 5gig because I download directly to my phone a lot and watch videos. In my home we go over 50 gig for the same reason. Netflix uses a crap ton of bandwidth. Maybe he needs to learn about data. Verizon actually has more data capacity with there fiber network than any other data provider, wireless our otherwise.
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If you guys are done bickering I'll get back on topic and post the services.jar file I pulled from my X and modified following the original post from Bthomas22x. Boot into recovery and apply ServicesUnthrottled.zip.
Note #1 - I am not responsible for anything happening to you phone.
Note #2 - My services.jar has a WHITE clock because I have a black status bar. If you have a BLACK clock you need to do it the manual way.
Note #3 - It took my X a little while to boot up so don't freak out if it's at the boot logo for a while.
this ok to be installed on any rom?
Didn't cause issues with gummyjar.
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I think the only prerequisite is you need to be de-odexed. Tried it with the odex files in place and sat at the M for about 20 min. Flashed recovery and manual deoexed and booted after about 5 min. Running otherwise stock 2.2.1...
Going to wait till tomorrow and flash between recoveries to see any noticeable difference.

Any Wisconsin Sprint Evo users (mainly Brookfield etc)

Reposted on AC also,trying to get as many peoples input as possible!
Going to start of by saying this isnt a slam against Sprint. I was happy as hell to go back to them after having ATT with my iPhone. This post is to get a general feel for the speeds people are experiencing.
Sum it up as short as I can, I wanted to watch the Seahawks playoff game tonight, so I fired up the ole Slingplayer. To my disappointment, it looked like complete crap and was literally freezing up. So I decided to run a speedtest to see what kind of up/down speeds I was getting.
This is where it gets crappy. I had a friend with a DroidX on Verizon,and another friend with the Samsung Galaxy phone from AT&T next to me, and asked them to run a test also. Speeds were as follows
Verizon- 2.1mb down 950 up
AT&T- 2.3mb down 650 up
Sprint - 393kbps 655kbps up
Uh...yeah. So I ran it again,186kbps down 397 up...WTH
I know Sprint isnt exactly the best carrier and all (and yes I do still love em for the prices) but is the network THAT crappy?
Alittle info about my phone is this:
Android 2.2
2.15.00.11.19 Baseband
2.6.32.15 netarchy-toastmod 4.1.9.1 cfs
3.70.651.1 Build #
Azrael X 3.0
PRI 1.90.003
PRL 60674
I have tried to update my radios with the combo pack at first, but the radio itself stalled at Formatting Cache, so i tried to use them seperately, and once again, stalled at formatting. Everytime I try to update my radio (to actually have it run the full course), it stalls at the formatting part after the self reboot. I thought I would give it time, but 10min of sitting on that screen and nothing, I manually reboot and manually format cache thru recovery. I also updated my profiles each time I try to reinstall the radios.
Am I missing something here or doing something wrong? I know about tower signals and all, but since the area I live and work will NOT be getting 4G anytime soon (as its outside Milwaukee and 4G will not reach that far when and IF Milwaukee gets it), I would at least expect my 3G service to be better than that!
Don't feel so bad. I live in Milwaukee and...
About a year and half ago I could consistently hit 2 mbps on my Touch Pro / Diamond. Then a few months later I was down to about 1500 kbps, which was more then fine. About 6 months ago me and a friend (different plans etc) both started experiencing close to 400 kbps. On our TP2's. It has gotten much worse. I have an EvO, he has a TP2 still so it is not phone related. There are days I can't get above 47 kbps. Most of the time I seem to hover around 87-187 kbps. I have literally waited 2 minutes for webpages to load. And this has been going on for about the past 2 months. Numerous calls and troubleshooting has lead me to believe sprints network is just way to overloaded. I am about to leave Sprint and grab some t mobile and HSPDA+ love. I give till March 31st, only because someone I know claims Sprint 4G may become active here. Apparently there is already a network in place and it is a licensing issue. I doubt it is true, but that is how long I give sprint to get their network together.
Regrettably T Mobile isnt an option for me since I live out in the Falls. I have a store about a 5 min walk from me and the sales reps told me not to even bother about a year or so ago lol.
Even walking thru malls when those sales people approach me, all I say is I live in Meno Falls, and they stop the sales pitch lol
The formatting cache screen is normal, it should do that. It doesn't mean it froze. Just click reboot and you're good to go.
To the OP, your speeds are indicative of 3g (or less) speeds. Was the phone in 4g mode when you ran the test?
Sadly, sprint and verizon 4g technology is not compatible, otherwise swapping out to a verizon prl might be the trick.
Come to think of it, there was another thread here regarding using verizon's 3g even in areas where sprint does have coverage. Did you try that?
Around the oshkosh appleton area I get 300-1000 kbs down and around 700-800 up.
So wait. How can I piggyback off Verizon with a Sprint phone?? I know both are CDMA but thought theres a big difference between chipsets etc.
Oddly enough too I used to able to use my IPad sling player at work also, thought somewhat choppy at times,but it's NEVER been as bad as it's been the past week or so. I did read somewhere that people are having issues with the new radios so I wonder if that could be the culprit and if flashing to a previous radio would clear things up. Then again I think the 3.70 update requires the new radios to function properly though I could be wrong
Anyway back to crying over my non functioning sling players on iPad and Evo due to lack of any decent reliable bandwidth lol
It's not your radio. I've been running the same radio since the 3.29 update. I'm on the 3.70 build now but, the radio hasn't been updated. I used to get close to 1st meg down here in louisville but since christmas it's lucky to get 150 k.
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gpz1100 said:
To the OP, your speeds are indicative of 3g (or less) speeds. Was the phone in 4g mode when you ran the test?
Sadly, sprint and verizon 4g technology is not compatible, otherwise swapping out to a verizon prl might be the trick.
Come to think of it, there was another thread here regarding using verizon's 3g even in areas where sprint does have coverage. Did you try that?
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Hey, we aren't talking of 4G. And no, his speeds are less then 3G. And the issue with Verizons PRL is if more then half or like 500MB is roaming data, then Sprint likes to terminate you.
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Around the oshkosh appleton area I get 300-1000 kbs down and around 700-800 up.
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Nice. What Radio/Rom? Not that it makes a diff.
Tower1972 said:
So wait. How can I piggyback off Verizon with a Sprint phone?? I know both are CDMA but thought theres a big difference between chipsets etc.
Oddly enough too I used to able to use my IPad sling player at work also, thought somewhat choppy at times,but it's NEVER been as bad as it's been the past week or so. I did read somewhere that people are having issues with the new radios so I wonder if that could be the culprit and if flashing to a previous radio would clear things up. Then again I think the 3.70 update requires the new radios to function properly though I could be wrong
Anyway back to crying over my non functioning sling players on iPad and Evo due to lack of any decent reliable bandwidth lol
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Not your radio. Several phones in my area do this.
baknblack said:
It's not your radio. I've been running the same radio since the 3.29 update. I'm on the 3.70 build now but, the radio hasn't been updated. I used to get close to 1st meg down here in louisville but since christmas it's lucky to get 150 k.
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You and me, in the same boat.
Milwaukee Area
I was recently up in the Milwaukee area over the holidays and the 3G was actually pretty solid at about 1 meg.
In KC, I am lucky to get 256 kb on any given day. Wisconsin doesn't have the 4G network yet - but honestly 4G is over rated (Great speeds if you are outside standing next to the tower and don't mind being tethered to an power outlet)
It is easy to forget that Sprint and other cell phone providers Internet access is still cell phone technology in a world of cable modems and DSL... That the speeds are comparible but there is cell phone "lag" due to the wireless transmissions. And that lag definately will be a factor in gaming and streaming video where packets have to be on time.
weidnerj said:
In KC, I am lucky to get 256 kb on any given day. Wisconsin doesn't have the 4G network yet - but honestly 4G is over rated (Great speeds if you are outside standing next to the tower and don't mind being tethered to an power outlet)
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I think that's more of a Wi-Max issue than Sprint. LTE doesn't have that problem because they operate at a higher frequency. I believe Sprint and Clear are going to switch to LTE and that might actually be the reason for the delay in some areas. I read an article yesterday about Clear having an LTE network running in Phoenix right now with speeds touching 90 megabits. Google it.
As for my speeds in Brookfield the best I got today was 787 down and 621 up. That's been normal for me.
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Hey, we aren't talking of 4G. And no, his speeds are less then 3G. And the issue with Verizons PRL is if more then half or like 500MB is roaming data, then Sprint likes to terminate you.
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Indeed. Bottom end of 3g. Fwiw, this little tweak might help
##3282# from the phone menu
advanced
look at the bottom, http pd proxy port and proxy address
I changed mint to
port:0
proxy: 0.0.0.0
I was having issues with shoutcast streaming in winamp and other programs. This change bypasses the proxy, but may also help in the op's case.
DOh! Forgot about that... It's right there in sprint's terms and [email protected]# So really, such use is suitable when traveling, where bulk of the data usage is in a sprint market. But where less than majority (49%?) is while roaming. Of course the 49% is my interpretation. They don't really define what majority means.
http://shop.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
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It pays to complain about poor 3g data speeds.

Been having horrable data speeds on 3g the past 3-4 months. And ive been calling and complaining everytime i have problems and making note of when i called sprint and what was done to the account. I have tried everything they asked including going to the store and getting a refurbed evo. But at the store when i got the refub i dled speedtest and got the same results...so i told them to keep it and give me my original phone back.
Point of this post is to DEFINATLY call and complain...dont let it go and look it over. Take notes on what they said and did to your account and spit it back at them the next time you call. They wanna charge me an etf for something that is not my fault since i want to cancel. I wont accept that...this is there problem...i shouldnt pay for full service if i aint getting it or be punished for cancelling when it is a problem on there end. Here is notes from todays convo with them as an example for others that should do the same. It may be the only way for them to fix there service or the only way they look at you and be like...hes to much of a pain in the ass to keep him so let him go. I will continue to call and complain until it is hopefully fixed or worst case they cancell my contract...todays notes.
Feb 15 spoke to 3 sprint reps and 1 supervisor in the cancellation dept..had my bill adusted to 101.09 dollars for poor service the past 3-4 months. So far total credits issued for poor data the past 4 months is $16 for invisable screen protecter..$20 for data booster at home...$30 for a credit issued for january for poor data speeds and $36 today for february's bill of poor data speeds. Total of $102.00
I've also noticed slower speeds for some time now, along with my home comcast internet. too many people online these days? (my internet used to be blaazzzing fast for 9 years!)
This has happened to me since November. I got my evo on launch day, and was getting great speeds, about 1500kbps down consistently. One day in November, my 3g crapped out. Since then, sprint has given me 6 phones, 3 refurbs and 3 brand new ones. All have the same problem. This leads me to believe its a network problem, I mean how could 7 phones have the same exact problem. But, my friend has an evo, and side by side his is normal, while I get less than 70kbps. And the evo's in the sprint store are fine as well, along with all the other phone models.
I have spent HOURS and HOURS on the phone trying to get this taken care of. I'm not trying to get anything from sprint, I just want my 3g to work. I love the evo, and I love sprint's coverage in my area.
They have given me 6 phones, and I haven't paid my bill in 3 months, since they keep giving me credits since they cant figure out the problem. I really could care less, I just want my 3g to work correctly.
So no, it really DOESN'T pay to complain. I have spent hours of my life complaining about this, and have gotten nowhere.
Same thing here. My 3G data speeds crapped out last November also. Sprint has no idea what the problem could be. I think everybody who is experiencing slower than normal data should raise serious hell with Sprint every single day. This is NOT a coincidence. I suspect something fishy is going on and I'm not going to pay these premium unlimited data fees for terrible 3G data speeds! I'm going to demand Sprint to credit my account 50% every month until they turn 3G back on like it used to be. If not I want out of my contract. Either way I can easily sell my two EVO's on Craigslist to cover the etf's.
I can't watch Sprint TV, YouTube, or stream any online video content. Web browsing is VERY slow. My data speeds have gone from 1.6mbps to .30kbps since last November and now I never get speed results faster than .76kbps on a good day. It seems like Sprint flipped a switch one day out of the blue and data speeds went to **** ever since.
tx_dbs_tx said:
Same thing here. My 3G data speeds crapped out last November also. Sprint has no idea what the problem could be. I think everybody who is experiencing slower than normal data should raise serious hell with Sprint every single day. This is NOT a coincidence. I suspect something fishy is going on and I'm not going to pay these premium unlimited data fees for terrible 3G data speeds! I'm going to demand Sprint to credit my account 50% every month until they turn 3G back on like it used to be. If not I want out of my contract. Either way I can easily sell my two EVO's on Craigslist to cover the etf's.
I can't watch Sprint TV, YouTube, or stream any online video content. Web browsing is VERY slow. My data speeds have gone from 1.6mbps to .30kbps since last November and now I never get speed results faster than .76kbps on a good day. It seems like Sprint flipped a switch one day out of the blue and data speeds went to **** ever since.
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What happened was more people got on the data network and Sprint hasn't invested in capacity like Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T has to support more 3G data traffic.
What's the best internetz speed tester?
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Search tbe market for speed test
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Have you tried this?
Avalaunchmods said:
PLEASE READ L-E-T-T-E-R FOR L-E-T-T-E-R, W-O-R-D FOR W-O-R-D.
As we all know, HTC and Sprint borked downloads for apps like Rhapsody, Mog, Thumbplay.
I recently ran across the subject and i found a fix. It is very simple.
1. Get your MSL, There are many ways, call Sprint, Download the app MSL Reader from the market, CDMA workshop
2. After you have your MSL go to your phone and type ##3282#
3. Click Edit Mode
4. Click Advanced
5. Scroll down to HTTP PD Proxy Port & HTTP PD Proxy Address
6. Change HTTP PD Proxy Port to 0 (zero)
7. Change HTTP PD Proxy Address to 0.0.0.0
8. Go enjoy Downloads and a .20-.60 mbps increase in 3G speeds!
-All credit to original finder of this fix, i am just passing it along and found the speed increase. Also when you flash a new rom it will back to old settings so remember to re-apply and it wont make you more vulnerable to anything.
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The Proxy changes do indeed help. Be sure to give them a try. That being said. my 3G and 4G data speeds are roughly half of what they were four months ago (Baltimore market). The only thing that has not changed is my RSSI or signal strength which comes in at -62.00 dBm every day, all day. The Rx signal to noise ratio has been reading "Not ready" for the past couple of months. What happened to it? How do I calculate CINR without this part of the equation?
I've complained numerous times about my poor signal coverage and pour 3g and ay first they gave me a airvana airave unit which really doesn't work to well with the evo..... but at least they did something....
I have an Airwave on the way. Sprint has also credited a month's bill yet again. Let's hope Sprint/Clear can get their collective acts together soon.
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For slow 3G speed, an Airvana is not the answer for the simple fact that it hooks into your existing broadband connection.. you could just get a WiFi router.
That's what I told them. They said it was an "Airwave 2.0" and acts like a repeater of the 3G signal. Either way, it is of no cost to me. It does show a willingness of Sprint to work with me, even if the proposed solution is no solution.
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It's obvious the more people who start using smartphones will start to slow down the service, but its the same with Comcast internet as much as I hate it. The companies all get u with the little filler words "up to". The speeds are not and never will be garunteed, at least not in the near future. Let's just hope these clowns actually give us TRUE 4g speeds in the next few years(70-100Mbps) as the technology grows.
Not 100% true. My company says up to as well, but its only allowed to be 5-10 percent off that speed, otherwise they send someone out.
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aimbdd said:
Not 100% true. My company says up to as well, but its only allowed to be 5-10 percent off that speed, otherwise they send someone out.
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I mean there is wiggle room. But when a company says 20Mbps and u only get 13, u r within that range u are talking about. I know Comcast, if u pay for 20mbps service, u can be getting 12 and they can do nothing about it on their end. It's because some units share a single.signal, same with cell towers, the more people using , the slower it'll be. And grandma and grandpa are starting to get smartphones, so it'll keep getting slower unless sprint stays on top of their game.
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heygrl said:
For slow 3G speed, an Airvana is not the answer for the simple fact that it hooks into your existing broadband connection.. you could just get a WiFi router.
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Yeah pretty much if you have a WiFi capable device.
I've gone from amazing 3G reception to constant dropouts and I work downtown Chicago across from the Sears Tower...I have no idea what has happened but being connected to 3G is hit or miss.
They also sent me an airave, which did indeed help in my home. But that does nothing outside of my home. Also, if the 3g works with the airave, that should mean that there is no problem with the 3g radio, so its not a hardware problem, but a network problem.
It's obvious the more people who start using smartphones will start to slow down the service
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I dont think this is the problem. As I stated earlier, two of my friends have evo's, and side by side, their two get normal speeds, while mine gets crap. Also, in the sprint store, I tested their display evo, just fine, and a few other random phones, all were fine.
Tuffgong4 said:
I've gone from amazing 3G reception to constant dropouts and I work downtown Chicago across from the Sears Tower...I have no idea what has happened but being connected to 3G is hit or miss.
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I live in the north subs and my parents are downtown Lake n Deerborn, and my parents phones have been crap lately too. Maybe sprint is over emphasizing the 4G downtown(much faster there then where I'm at) and could be messing w 3G speeds. Probably not the exact case but I can see sprint concentrating highly on 4G where it is abundant and short changing 3G a little bit.
I'm no pro so don't take my theory to heart, just thoughts.
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