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HDMI IN?????

Is there any way to use the Epic as a mini monitor? I'm assuming not but I figured I'd ask anyways. Would it be possible at all?

That's actually a very good idea but I don't think its possible.
epic

No HDMI in for the simple reason that there is no hardware support.

stir fry a lot said:
Is there any way to use the Epic as a mini monitor? I'm assuming not but I figured I'd ask anyways. Would it be possible at all?
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Doesn't really make any sense since our resolution is so low the HDMI input video would look horrible. Also, considering we can't even get the standard video out to work I seriously doubt the reverse is going to work.

Not wired, but there's this app: http://www.shapeservices.com/en/products/details.php?product=idisplay&platform=android
Theres another that I can't find right now (magic something I think). Both are based on VNC mirror display drivers, do you need a pc, a server app for the pc and the client software for your andoid.
Good luck.
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[Guide] LS HDMI mirroring on Lapdock (Wet Dream and DarkSide)

I posted this in the [MOD] HDMI Landscape Mirroring thread in Development, but the post didn't get much attention there.
For anyone who has not seen it, I wanted to post it in general with a slightly better step by step.
WHY?: Yes, LS HDMI mirroring does already exist in Darkside and Wet Dream, however NOT on the lapdock. On the lapdock, the only option is webtop.
What's wrong with webtop? Nothing really...if you want to surf the internet. However, if you want to play a game on the lapdock, things get quite laggy. Playing Super Mario World using SNESDroid inside webtop is VERY laggy. When doing LS HDMI mirroring, the lag almost vanishes.
Who is this trick good for?
People who do not use Entertainment Center or the other HDMI options.
People who want to play games on lapdock.
People who want full screen LS HDMI with mouse and keyboard support on the lapdock.
People who don't like the idea of webtop but like LS HDMI.
People who like being able to choose between webtop and LS HDMI on their lapdock
How do we do this?
First time only
1. Open your lapdock, set the Atrix on it only partially. So that only the HDMI is recognized (The left half of the phone will be raised slightly). If you have a HD TV and an HDMI cable, you can simply plug the cable into the TV.
2. When the dialog pops up, check "Remember my selection" and choose Mirror phone display.
3. Close the lapdock and properly dock the phone. Instead of HDMI, it should register as "multimedia station".
4. Check "Remember my selection" and choose Mirror phone on display
5. Undock the Atrix and then open the lapdock.
6. Plug the Atrix into the lapdock and start pressing ESC
7. Continue pressing ESC until the big red M disappears. When it disappears press ESC one or two more times
8.The screen will flicker a few times, try to be patient. You will end up in either Webtop or LS HDMI with mouse and keyboard support.
9. If you ended up in LS HDMI, you are good to go. If you ended up in webtop, start over at step 5.
Notes:
It definitely helps to have no apps open and be just on your launcher screen when you start
It will probably take a few tries to get the hang of it, but I can do it pretty consistently now.
After a period of inactivity, you will get kicked out of LS HDMI and webtop will automatically load up.
If someone figures out how to get LS HDMI working on CM7, this is probably easier to achieve than a full webtop.
I have tested this on TWO Atrixes, one running Wet Dream 1.4.3, the other running Darkside Prefinal.
I will try to record a video of the process here in the next couple days.
If anyone has anything to add, feedback, or a better format for the post, I would be more than happy to edit this.

Sorry to bump my own thread, but I will most likely not be posting a video since LS HDMI works with a little less hassle in the latest CM7 weekly. If you do not mind completely losing webtop, it isn't a bad option.
However, if someone else records a video I would be more than happy to stick it in the first post. The method works and is worth the potential couple attempts if you enjoy webtop from time to time as well

Thanks for the method! I'm trying it, haven't succeeded yet. The "M" always disppear very fast and then webtop pops up. And under some circumstances first the mirroring video with a huge cursor first comes up and then replaced by webtop.
Is timing very important when pressing ESC?
And, am I getting it wrong? I repeatedly pressed ESC, am I supposed to hold it down and wait for "M" and then tap twice again?
I'll keep trying... Because webtop give me VimWiki and git, I cannot go without it :-D
BTW: The power problem: There's an option in android settings, to prevent the phone from suspending while in charge. It worked for me when my method was still effective.
MyronJ906 said:
I posted this in the [MOD] HDMI Landscape Mirroring thread in Development, but the post didn't get much attention there.
For anyone who has not seen it, I wanted to post it in general with a slightly better step by step.
WHY?: Yes, LS HDMI mirroring does already exist in Darkside and Wet Dream, however NOT on the lapdock. On the lapdock, the only option is webtop.
What's wrong with webtop? Nothing really...if you want to surf the internet. However, if you want to play a game on the lapdock, things get quite laggy. Playing Super Mario World using SNESDroid inside webtop is VERY laggy. When doing LS HDMI mirroring, the lag almost vanishes.
Who is this trick good for?
People who do not use Entertainment Center or the other HDMI options.
People who want to play games on lapdock.
People who want full screen LS HDMI with mouse and keyboard support on the lapdock.
People who don't like the idea of webtop but like LS HDMI.
People who like being able to choose between webtop and LS HDMI on their lapdock
How do we do this?
First time only
1. Open your lapdock, set the Atrix on it only partially. So that only the HDMI is recognized (The left half of the phone will be raised slightly). If you have a HD TV and an HDMI cable, you can simply plug the cable into the TV.
2. When the dialog pops up, check "Remember my selection" and choose Mirror phone display.
3. Close the lapdock and properly dock the phone. Instead of HDMI, it should register as "multimedia station".
4. Check "Remember my selection" and choose Mirror phone on display
5. Undock the Atrix and then open the lapdock.
6. Plug the Atrix into the lapdock and start pressing ESC
7. Continue pressing ESC until the big red M disappears. When it disappears press ESC one or two more times
8.The screen will flicker a few times, try to be patient. You will end up in either Webtop or LS HDMI with mouse and keyboard support.
9. If you ended up in LS HDMI, you are good to go. If you ended up in webtop, start over at step 5.
Notes:
It definitely helps to have no apps open and be just on your launcher screen when you start
It will probably take a few tries to get the hang of it, but I can do it pretty consistently now.
After a period of inactivity, you will get kicked out of LS HDMI and webtop will automatically load up.
If someone figures out how to get LS HDMI working on CM7, this is probably easier to achieve than a full webtop.
I have tested this on TWO Atrixes, one running Wet Dream 1.4.3, the other running Darkside Prefinal.
I will try to record a video of the process here in the next couple days.
If anyone has anything to add, feedback, or a better format for the post, I would be more than happy to edit this.
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glocklee said:
Thanks for the method! I'm trying it, haven't succeeded yet. The "M" always disppear very fast and then webtop pops up. And under some circumstances first the mirroring video with a huge cursor first comes up and then replaced by webtop.
Is timing very important when pressing ESC?
And, am I getting it wrong? I repeatedly pressed ESC, am I supposed to hold it down and wait for "M" and then tap twice again?
I'll keep trying... Because webtop give me VimWiki and git, I cannot go without it :-D
BTW: The power problem: There's an option in android settings, to prevent the phone from suspending while in charge. It worked for me when my method was still effective.
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If you are occasionally seeing the big arrow on the screen, you are getting close. Tap ESC all the way through the M. I don't think the timing of it mattered much though. You can try tapping just once after it goes away. I said two initially because I found that too many times always rejected it. But one time might not be at the right moment.
I think you will be a master of the method soon. Getting the mirroring to show up even for a second means you are getting there
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It works!
Hi MyronJ906:
It works! Just as you describbed, M,tap esc all the way, a few flickering, and bingo!
MyronJ906 said:
If you are occasionally seeing the big arrow on the screen, you are getting close. Tap ESC all the way through the M. I don't think the timing of it mattered much though. You can try tapping just once after it goes away. I said two initially because I found that too many times always rejected it. But one time might not be at the right moment.
I think you will be a master of the method soon. Getting the mirroring to show up even for a second means you are getting there
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---------- Post added at 04:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:15 AM ----------
BTW I'm running on a modded ROM based on official Chinese 2.3 ROM.

Confirmed working for me too. I like my full linux webtop better than mirroring though.

I discovered that if I dock the phone before opening the lid, the M will persist for longer and thus achieving greater chance.
I'm surprised that only after the first success, the behavior becomes so consistent.

glocklee said:
I discovered that if I dock the phone before opening the lid, the M will persist for longer and thus achieving greater chance.
I'm surprised that only after the first success, the behavior becomes so consistent.
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That is pretty much what happened for me to. Before I switched to CM, I could get it about 90% of the time. It is great for gaming and the option to still use webtop when you please is wonderful.
Glad to see some people getting it working. Haha I just wish I understood WHY it worked.
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MyronJ906 said:
That is pretty much what happened for me to. Before I switched to CM, I could get it about 90% of the time. It is great for gaming and the option to still use webtop when you please is wonderful.
Glad to see some people getting it working. Haha I just wish I understood WHY it worked.
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I believe it works because pressing escape while webtop is initializing simply ends the process and it defaults to mirror over HDMI.
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Works great for me too!
I'm on the latest WetDream Light.
The only drawback is that the graphic detail on screen get's very jaggy. I tried changing the HDMI overscan but that didn't help.
Kinda cool for some horizontal games, but for everything else, I rather use my heavily modded Gnome Webtop...
Thanks for sharing MyronJ906 !!!

You might consider trying a higher LCD density. I bet a higher resolution makes it look a little better mirrored. I have mainly been mirroring on my lap dock to take notes through Evernote or play Grand Theft Auto with my playstation controller. It plays great once it is setup.
Playing Mario and Sonic with the lapdock keyboard is pretty great as well.
But for actual computing tasks, I would agree. Webtop wins.
I am definitely loving mirroring on Neutrino right now though. Makes gaming GREAT
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MyronJ906 said:
You might consider trying a higher LCD density. I bet a higher resolution makes it look a little better mirrored. I have mainly been mirroring on my lap dock to take notes through Evernote or play Grand Theft Auto with my playstation controller. It plays great once it is setup.
Playing Mario and Sonic with the lapdock keyboard is pretty great as well.
But for actual computing tasks, I would agree. Webtop wins.
I am definitely loving mirroring on Neutrino right now though. Makes gaming GREAT
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You are right about the density change. Right now I'm on 240.
I will try some higher numbers and post results.
I'm tempted to get a PS3 controller just for this GTA3 setup! :-D
Thanks for the recommendation!
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It works also on Gingermod with this patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22101122&postcount=706

Rayan said:
You are right about the density change. Right now I'm on 240.
I will try some higher numbers and post results.
I'm tempted to get a PS3 controller just for this GTA3 setup! :-D
Thanks for the recommendation!
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I used LCD Density Modder Pro to change my density since it also includes a market fix. (That spoofs density as 240 so that you won't get random app incompatibilities)
I'm using 175 right now and it seems pretty nice for both lapdock and normal phone use. 180/185 are also pretty great.
But if you're looking for something a little less extreme there is nothing wrong with 200. It's a pretty good middle ground
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MyronJ906 said:
I used LCD Density Modder Pro to change my density since it also includes a market fix. (That spoofs density as 240 so that you won't get random app incompatibilities)
I'm using 175 right now and it seems pretty nice for both lapdock and normal phone use. 180/185 are also pretty great.
But if you're looking for something a little less extreme there is nothing wrong with 200. It's a pretty good middle ground
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Thanks for the tip!
Will try that right now.
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whats ur atrix capable of?

share what all things you can do with your atrix. let others know how you are using your device. guide them to unleash the beast inside their atrix.

i connect my atrix to usb hub, tv, pendrive, ext hdd, mouse and keyboard......
Atrix - Neutrino Rom 2.6, Faux 1.45GHz Kernel. CM7 2.3.7

I'm kind of strange.........I use my Atrix as a phone!

I use it as a game console. connect it to my HDTV and use a wiimote classic to play snes. I also use it for Netflix and movies. Most recently I've been using it at work to save information quickly.

I use it to do my marketing homework cuz I'm cool like that.

Nice topic...
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It collects dust until cm9 is 100% complete for it.
I only used hdmi mirroring a few times like in hotels to watch Netflix. Now I just use my ipad2. Only played stupid games on it, nothing like gta3. That's what my ps3 is for.

I use mine for games and all the usual stuff but mostly as my mobile office
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I use it for a mobile office, games, mp3 player and Webtop sometimes sms etc

I am now up to 7 months of using nothing but my atrix/lapdock when not in home/office.
This includes some long trips when I needed to be able to connect back to the office and do real work.
When out of touch I can do some dev locally on it (most of my work is just C code, fairly light weight). But in general I can just VPN home and all works fairly well.
Worst case is when I have to RDE into a Windoze VM back on my office system. Slow, but works.
Sometimes I even use it for phone calls

CaelanT said:
I'm kind of strange.........I use my Atrix as a phone!
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+ 1 and for web surfing and video watching
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I use my atrix for mostly the communication part of the phone for school and work. Like email, messaging, calls, and Lapdock. The phone calendar is the thing the keeps me on task. I use the atrix almost like a business tool.
.......the you have all those fun apps you have to try......
That's a whole other story.
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anybody tried full ubuntu inside atrix and connect to an HDTV?

I use my atrix for...
Well this is my first "power-phone" I've had. I don't consider my iPhone 3gs a power-phone. So tonight I will attempt to install backtrack Linux on it (Debian variant) for pen-testing remotely. Should be interesting. The hardware can BY FAR support it, and there are multiple ported arm versions available. Wish me luck. If anyone else has done it, regardless of distro please pm me you're experience!

I always use my Atrix to watch Despicable Me all over again!!

I use my Atrix as a pocket notebook (springpad), music player and mobile browser.
I also have offline navigation map installed, but never used it.

deface31337 said:
Well this is my first "power-phone" I've had. I don't consider my iPhone 3gs a power-phone. So tonight I will attempt to install backtrack Linux on it (Debian variant) for pen-testing remotely. Should be interesting. The hardware can BY FAR support it, and there are multiple ported arm versions available. Wish me luck. If anyone else has done it, regardless of distro please pm me you're experience!
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I run a debian made from scratch via debootsrap and it works fine and was fairly easy to do.
If you are just running this as command line (no X), it is fairly easy to do. Just follow any standard ubuntu chrooting guide (or look up "ubuntu on android"). From a 'droid terminal chroot over and you are there.
One catch, if you run as a non-root user you must be in grouup 3003 (it's in the 'droid kernel) to use IP sockets. 3004 to use raw sockes, and 3001 if you care about bluetooth (took me an entire day to find that comically stupid issue).
If you need an X interface, there are 2 ways to go. Either use the Moto webtop ubuntu to get X up, then chrrot over to your stuff over. Or run a VNC server in your 'nux and use the android VNC viewer.
As I presume you know what you are doing on the linux side, this will not be difficult.
There are a few threads over in the dev section that go into a lot more detail.

Design icons in inkscape? Build websites? Contact anyone any time? Considering its 960 landscape it also allows you to easily browse almost any webpage. Its a damn awesome phone.
I just wish they'd done webtop right as opposed to than weird virtual thing its doing. Ubuntu screams on a 1ghz processor with 1gb ram. Webtop however sort of whimpers =/
Needs room to grow I guess.
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Thanks for the advice your setup looks like exactly what i need. Command prompt and a root user, the rest is trivial and ill play with it for giggles. Thanks again for the reply.
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Design icons in inkscape? Build websites? Contact anyone any time? Considering its 960 landscape it also allows you to easily browse almost any webpage. Its a damn awesome phone.
I just wish they'd done webtop right as opposed to than weird virtual thing its doing. Ubuntu screams on a 1ghz processor with 1gb ram. Webtop however sort of whimpers =/
Needs room to grow I guess.
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Hrm.. webtop seems to run nice for me. Streaming movies or youtube is lag free. My vnc sessions seem fine. Not sure. I am writing some more advanced html5 web apps to test with webtop to see how well it utilizes the newer functions. But then again it is firefox, i expect it to pass with flying colors.
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Running select apps in tablet mode with TouchWiz

If there isn't development on this already, I think it should probably start soon anyway.
Now that we officially have ICS for the Note, and especially owing to its screen size and resolution, it would be great if there were some kind of app that would allow us to choose on an app-by-app basis to run in the tablet mode or in phone mode, or simply make it such that the whole system runs in one way or the other (regardless of LCD density tricks).
For instance, I prefer the tablet mode of Play Music WAY more than the phone mode. On the other hand, Dolphin HD seems to be scaled much better when used in phone mode than in tablet mode. It would be nice to have an app that dictates how other apps behave... Does such a thing exist?
Lemme know your thoughts!

I didn't realize until after I posted, but I think I meant for this thread to be started over in the General forum. Whoops!

Cant believe with all those posts and thanks u still posted here
Edit : i was a milli sec late

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
If there isn't development on this already, I think it should probably start soon anyway.
Now that we officially have ICS for the Note, and especially owing to its screen size and resolution, it would be great if there were some kind of app that would allow us to choose on an app-by-app basis to run in the tablet mode or in phone mode, or simply make it such that the whole system runs in one way or the other (regardless of LCD density tricks).
For instance, I prefer the tablet mode of Play Music WAY more than the phone mode. On the other hand, Dolphin HD seems to be scaled much better when used in phone mode than in tablet mode. It would be nice to have an app that dictates how other apps behave... Does such a thing exist?
Lemme know your thoughts!
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if you dun mind restarting the phone upon changing mode then I would say it's possible.
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The trick is scaling and you probably would need to stat in lowest dpi possible.
Wonder if android is dynamically scaled to the screensize or hardcoded to include it.
And yes its being developed. Dont know status though
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Split screen multitasking - how?

Hi,
How to get Nexus 10 to have split screen multitasking like Note2?
Is it possible at all?
Also, can you run apps in windowed mode in Android?
At the moment, I can have browser in a window and video player in a window (super video, but no sound for some reason...), and it would be good if i could have more options like this.
Thanks

That that is a touch-wiz thing. If you want that you might as well get the galaxy note 10.1

Any chance this could be coded into custom roms though?

There's a floating browser app that works quite well. Try searching for that.
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Try stick it . a bit buggy but works well.
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It's doable if not very elegant.
LilyPad Chat
BS player
Floating browser
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I've tried out a couple floating video apps, and I like Popcorn player the most. Also Floating Browser Flux is an okay free browser.

Multi window support is possible. I suppose it could be built into cyanogenmod. But I bet it would most likely come as a flashable zip, not a built-in feature. It would probably be really difficult to code though. It's not really what most XDA members would be able to do. Maybe we could get the Paranoid Android devs to work on it? They seem like the most qualified to me.
The Nexus 10 is a powerful device. One of the major downfalls with Android is the lack of mulit-window support. The Nexus 10 could become a super functional powerhouse for productivity if we could just get it to display more than one screen at a time.

SacTappingUni said:
Multi window support is possible. I suppose it could be built into cyanogenmod. But I bet it would most likely come as a flashable zip, not a built-in feature. It would probably be really difficult to code though. It's not really what most XDA members would be able to do. Maybe we could get the Paranoid Android devs to work on it? They seem like the most qualified to me.
The Nexus 10 is a powerful device. One of the major downfalls with Android is the lack of mulit-window support. The Nexus 10 could become a super functional powerhouse for productivity if we could just get it to display more than one screen at a time.
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CM actually tried to implement something very similar Multiwindow in CM9 (look up Cornerstone). Google went Maffia on them and dropped hints that they would blacklist CM roms from accessing the market if they went through with it since there's potential for apps to not work right. They were worried that any issues that arose from such a setup would be blamed on the devs of the apps.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-and-bring-true-tablet-multitasking-to-cm9/
Its doable, but its also understandable why devs dont want to touch it anymore. Before that happened, you'd see plenty of unofficial CM builds with cornerstone integrated.

Actually, there's a brand that is developing an app... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqBAfMwCAc