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Red edges to text

is it just me or does the white text on this screen have red sticking out edges. I think I read somewhere about the pentile matrix causing it. Can someone confirm. It's a shame as the screen is great otherwise. Also when you have a white screen, it's got a green line on the left and a red on the right.
Logicalstep
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I can confirm this. I guess it'a downside to amoled screens... Oh well. Nothing is perfect.

None of that for me. Take yours into a store and compare side by side with another to see if yours is faulty.

Actually yes there is a tiny green strip down the left. i hadn't noticed that over the past two weeks!

I guess it is just a downside, but it's a pretty big one considering how samsung bit back at steve jobs fir saying the iphone screen is better. Jobs is right by the way ip4 is much crisper. Strange that none of the reviews would mention about these red things around the text. Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity. Ib guess I must have better eyesight than these 40 something tech journalists!
Logicalstep
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Really? I mean... REALLY, does this bother you? How close do you guys hold the screen up to your eyes? I notice this easily at 6-8 inches but seriously, when do you EVER need to hold it that close?

I am trying to see the red edge you are taking about from the xda app. The texts on this application are white with black background and vice verser.
Trying as hard as I can I couldn't see them. Are you using any screen protector? Are you sure it is not the diffraction from the protector causing this effect?
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Logicalstep said:
Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity.
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Maybe because it does? I don't think there's a review that says the SGS screen is superior to the Iphone 4. They both have their positives and negatives. I looked at the ebooks that come with the SGS and I could easily read them without any problems or strain on the eyes.
People here are so picky. This doesn't work, that doesn't look right, they should have done this instead blah blah blah. I'm I using the same phone? cause I'm enjoying mine.

I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.
No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)
Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.
*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.

OP, you're too picky. This is probaly the most perfect non-iPhone screen money could buy now. Enjoy it.

If you look VEEEEEEERY closely, you can find a fair share if impurities in the iPhone screen as well. Mostly poor uniformity of back light dispertion (although a LED screen, it's FRAME led, not local dimming)
And some bleeding in bright shades of red.
Plus, the "blacks" are tinted purple.
All those are tpyical for IPS panels, but if you don't look for them under a magnifying glass (like people are doing here with the SGS), it's very unlikely you'll even notice.
Each technology has it's advantages and disadvantages. Currently all reviews agree unanimously- The SAMOLED screen on the SGS and the iPhone 4 retina display are the two best displays out there, without a definite first place between those two.

Listen I know some of you are quick to say I'm complaining and that I'm being too picky, but I'm only reporting what I noticed to be true on my phone. I posted to see if anyone else could see thee same thing. Not once didi mention I can't live with it, but for me I can see it and I'm suprised that in all the review they haven't mentioned about the red halo around entire text, your telling me that s not a fundamental thing? Come on, fir some people being promised the latest and greatest screen this might turn out to be issue.
Just to be clear, apart v ffrom this and a few small software issues,i love this phone, so please no flaming me for digging at the sgs.
Logicalstep
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red halo around the entire text. sounded like you have a defect on your hand. My Galaxy s have no such problem.

This is a problem with the pentile technology they use in the screen, the screen can't display white on each individual pixel, it needs to blend the colours from two pixels together to create white. This can make text quite jagged and make the white bleed slightly at the edges.
I too am a little surprised this wasn't picked up in review (although trusted reviews did pick this up) but I think this raises an important point, you need to make you're own mind up and not just rely on reviews. You wouldn't normally spend this type of money on anything thing else without using it yourself first, and its mainly the impatient ones who couldn't wait long enough to try it themselves first who then have the complaints, that's the risk you take! ps I didn't try it first, too impatient
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tenkom said:
I can confirm this. I guess it'a downside to amoled screens... Oh well. Nothing is perfect.
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It's not a downside to amoled screens, it's a downside to samsung's proprietary pentile matrix. Pentile is not inherent to AMOLED; every other AMOLED manufacturer besides Samsung use normal RGB sub pixels.
Pika007 said:
I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.
No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)
Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.
*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.
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Not on the Cowon S9/J3, Zune HD, Sony XE-1, or LG EL9500. I've taken macro pictures of my S9's screen and it is RGB.

Ok, 90% of the amoled screens floating around on the market. happy?
The vast majority of amoled screens use RGBG.

Logicalstep said:
is it just me or does the white text on this screen have red sticking out edges. I think I read somewhere about the pentile matrix causing it. Can someone confirm. It's a shame as the screen is great otherwise. Also when you have a white screen, it's got a green line on the left and a red on the right.
Logicalstep
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I used "flashlight" application to look for the green & red lines on a white screen. I thought I might have seen the green line, but I couldn't even be sure to be honest, and there almost definitely wasn't a red line.
I looked at the text a little closer than I previously had and I felt I could see red within white text, however I didn't have a "red sticking out edges" problem. In every day use, and I use the screen primarily for reading internet articles and text messaging, I have never seen the colors within white text.

hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.
I wonder if my screen as some kind of alignment problem. I donlt even have to look that close to see it, it's a one pixel wide line down the left. and if I look to the bottom and right I see red pixels sticking out from the screen.
I realise that Pentile will make text a little jagged, but should it be this obvious?
I mean the clarity of text on this screen is very jagged compared to my Blackstone, even when I look very closely at that.
Logi

This is the best macro my camera can do at 100% crop.
Try taking the same picture and compare if your screen exhibit unacceptable differences, you may have a defective screen on your hand.
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Logicalstep said:
hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.
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I can see what you're talking about, for me it's one green line down the left and a fainter red one down the right. But this is only on a white screen and when I look hard for it from about 10cm away - it's no big deal.

The Best Tablet Display

I just found this article written by someone who knows his stuff.
http://gizmodo.com/5824807/the-best-tablet-displays-ipad-2-just-got-dethroned
I disagree with him though as I believe the transformer has a better and brighter screen than the Ipad 2.

I have both side by side and the iPad2 is clearly brighter at max, dimmer at min, and less reflective...

Any one else notice that this page has a caption next to the results: "Click to embiggen chart" ?
How can I take an article seriously if they use words that were made up on an episode of The Simpsons. I guess they would argue that their usage was perfectly cromulent.

The best one is the one that fits your eyes.

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aibo said:
The best one is the one that fits your eyes.
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Right, I almost never use max brightness.
Also Transformer has 1.3 times more the number of iPad 2 pixels.

This guy knows his stuff, so I'd not be inclined to argue with him. However, I'll say this: the screen on my TF is outstanding, regardless of whether or not some other screen is better. It's like cars: I love my Infiniti G37, even though there are demonstrably better-performing cars available. And indeed, one of the things that I love about the G37 is that I paid $15K less for it than the equivalent BMW, and have 95% of the performance. That's an equation that I can live with quite happily...
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ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that

krispy1 said:
ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that
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I have done measurement of the transformer and iPad and find that both units have some inaccuracy, but are pretty close to the actual values when displaying a sample color panel. I would give a nod to Transformer for warmer (red and orange) colors and the iPad to colder (blues) colors. Both are miles more accurate than the Samsung which is dramatically over saturated.

My iPad's screen is too warm, and my TF's screen is too cool.
It's a bit frustrating.

krispy1 said:
ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that
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Yeah, the color accuracy is great on this screen. It almost makes it painful to go back to my laptop.

Never have thought the TF had the best screen, way too many issues with light leak to even be considered. It looks aight though.

darkonex said:
Never have thought the TF had the best screen, way too many issues with light leak to even be considered. It looks aight though.
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The Ipad is known for having light lead issues as well; it seems to be a "feature" of IPS panels. That does nothing, however, to detract from the fundamental quality of the screen when any light leakage isn't apparent (as in 100% of my own use, since I might have leakage but haven't even noticed it).
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Dorkington said:
My iPad's screen is too warm, and my TF's screen is too cool.
It's a bit frustrating.
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Tablets really need to have color profiles and brightness and contrast like you do on a Mac or PC. Then you could use a hardware calibrator to create a customize profile for the specific of your own display. I do this on all my laptops and desktop monitors and the results are very nice. The only downside is the calibrator hardware and software cost $250+.

i just had my screen replaced under warranty by asus for a white spot (backlight leak).
unless i'm imagining it, the new screen seems to be warmer and not quite so bright as the one it replaced
but it also has zero light bleed at the edges where the old one had quite a bit.
perhaps they're now using a different panel than when i first bought my b60 tf101 a year ago.
has anybody else noticed any variation in screen brightness/ colour between units?

theabsurdman said:
i just had my screen replaced under warranty by asus for a white spot (backlight leak).
unless i'm imagining it, the new screen seems to be warmer and not quite so bright as the one it replaced
but it also has zero light bleed at the edges where the old one had quite a bit.
perhaps they're now using a different panel than when i first bought my b60 tf101 a year ago.
has anybody else noticed any variation in screen brightness/ colour between units?
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Yeah Asus replaced mine too because it didn't wanna turn on. The new screen is magnificent no light bleed and yeah Asus Sammy and apple have the best screen
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I can't complaint as asus renewed my screen cause of back light leaking. Im told that apple always use too many pixels looking at there screen resolutions.
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The battery capacities these days! Amazing !!
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I have TF101 (mid level bleed issues, I can live with them given I rarely run full brightness, never need to), iPad 1,2,3, A500, Nook Color, and a few others. IMO, ALL of the IPS displays are great, and more than safisfying. I don't compare them because I don't see the point, they are all way more than "good enough" for my and my family's casual use. If you are using these for photography or similar "on the road" and color accuracy is a concern, then you should probably get a Macbook or even better the new asus zen gen2 (which beats even the MAC displays for accuracy, check out Anand's review on the new Zen Ultrabook, drool ). My main point is, as long as your display makes you happy, who cares if there is another one out there that is better . If you are researching for a purchase on the other hand, be realistic in what your uses are going to be and read reviews that cover those uses along with reliability and customer support quality, see if you can borrow one or check one out somewhere, and let your budget and your eyes be your guide, and you will be happy with what you get.

Some Competition This Way Comes!

Firstly, I'd just like to note that this source is from CNET, I'm not one for stealing information....
After all the slack Samsung has gotten regarding the size of the note, it seems LG is ready to bring something "Big" to the frame, The LG Optimus Vu
A 5" IPS with a 4:3 Aspect ratio... Looks pretty interesting to me. Although if that Design isn't stolen from the Nokia Lumia then I'm french...
**Insert from CNET**
If you thought the 5.3-inch Samsung Galaxy Note was a huge flash in the gigantic pan, you were massively mistaken. LG is looking to make its own sled-sized smart phone, giving us a glimpse of the LG Optimus Vu in a new teaser trailer.
This 5-inch mobile is different from Samsung's Note in one major respect though -- it boasts a screen with a claimed 4:3 aspect ratio. LG, we'd like to take this moment to offer you "room with a Vu" as a potential tagline. You're welcome.
The Korean gadget maker gave a sniff of the device and its quirky dimensions in a post on its blog. And if our deciphering of Google Translate is on the money, LG seems to reckon the 4:3 ratio is perfectly suited to the human hand.
Hmm. We've never had too much trouble keeping our hands on more rectangular mobiles to be honest, but we'll likely see the Vu making an appearance at Mobile World Congress at the end of this month, where we'll get a hands-on and see how it feels.
Not much else is known about the Vu -- the teaser video (which we've embedded below) shows circular metallic buttons and rounded edges that remind us a little of Nokia's Lumia 800.
Along the bottom of the device you can spy four touch-sensitive Android buttons, and while nothing else is known for sure, around the web we've seen unconfirmed reports of an 8-megapixel camera and a 1.5GHz dual-core processor.
We didn't hate the Note, but it is too big to be practical for most folks. In a few years will all mobiles be so supersized? Perhaps we should invest in trousers with bigger pockets.
**End**
P.S. If this has been posted, I'm sorry

Its going to release with Gingerbread...
LMAO

Link please?
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Found it myself.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57373285-251/lg-goes-big-with-5-inch-optimus-vu/?tag=cnetRiver

As least its small than the note and it doesn't look very appealing.

Samsung and the Note have recieved as much praise as criticism for the its size...in fact way more praise
As always the size criticism is a comment on the prefernce of the criticizer not the Note itself.
Obviously theres plenty big enough market for large screens.[/QUOTE]

LG seems to reckon the 4:3 ratio is perfectly suited to the human hand.
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Hahaha! Nice one! This is going to be shorter than the note and wider. How can that suit better to the hand?

Bassarnis said:
Hahaha! Nice one! This is going to be shorter than the note and wider. How can that suit better to the hand?
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It'll only be .19" wider, and half an inch shorter. Might make it easier to reach the top and bottom at the same time, though you will have to stretch a little more to get across. That might not be a bad tradeoff.

E_man5112 said:
It'll only be .19" wider, and half an inch shorter. Might make it easier to reach the top and bottom at the same time, though you will have to stretch a little more to get across. That might not be a bad tradeoff.
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Except all the wasted space on that screen as most video these days are 16x9 like the Note Screen.
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Looking at LG's own records for updates, I won't even consider them a viable option.

MrDSL said:
Its going to release with Gingerbread...
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The not still has gingerbread... Glass houses and all that.
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eallan said:
The not still has gingerbread... Glass houses and all that.
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This phone was released almost 4 months ago and this one isn't even out yet.
Yeah that's a fair comparison.

It's strange to go with a 4:3 aspect ratio. Larger screens generally seem to be widescreen.
I don't mind seeing competition - it helps legitimize the 5 inch form factor to the masses.

ya, no android device should be released with gb at this point.. that's just sad
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Dumb ?, what difference would the 4:3 aspect make.?
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sprintuser1977 said:
Dumb ?, what difference would the 4:3 aspect make.?
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
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Well, if you've noticed, since the Note is 16:10, there's some letterboxing (black boxes/bands at the top/bottom of the screen for any videos in the 16:9 ratio (widescreen). You can see this clearly when shooting a video at 1080x720.
That's cos the Note's length/breadth ratio is lower than that of a 16:9 screen. [That's a ratio of 1.78 in 16:9 vs 1.6 in 16:10]
For me, that's the optimum balance between movie watching pleasure and a nice wide (actually high) screen in landscape mode for me to read on.
On the other hand, with a 4:3 screen, the ratio is 1.33. That means a widescreen movie would have larger areas of the screen blocked out.
If I'm not clear or you'd like more info, please check this out:
Wikipedia
In the end, it all depends what you intend to use your phone for.
P.S. Am a little puzzled why they'd go for 4:3 though. I thought that the standards have shifted to 16:9 and 16:10.

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Except all the wasted space on that screen as most video these days are 16x9 like the Note Screen.
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Space is not wasted on a phone simply because it isn't used in movies.
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Dumb ?, what difference would the 4:3 aspect make.?
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A 4:3 would be more of a square shape. This means you get less of a long screen in portrait, and you get a more usable height in landscape (in my opinion). I actually prefer a 4:3 aspect ratio, as I think it's better for web browsing. Other needs and opinions will suit other aspect ratios better.
Here is an example of a 5" 4:3 screen and a 5.3" 16:10 screen such as the note displaying a 16:9 movie frame. You can also see specs such as image area/dimensions, etc.
Just wish it wasn't LG making this, or I might prefer it over the note.
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Well, if you've noticed, since the Note is 16:10, there's some letterboxing (black boxes/bands at the top/bottom of the screen for any videos in the 16:9 ratio (widescreen). You can see this clearly when shooting a video at 1080x720.
That's cos the Note's length/breadth ratio is lower than that of a 16:9 screen. [That's a ratio of 1.78 in 16:9 vs 1.6 in 16:10]
For me, that's the optimum balance between movie watching pleasure and a nice wide (actually high) screen in landscape mode for me to read on.
On the other hand, with a 4:3 screen, the ratio is 1.33. That means a widescreen movie would have larger areas of the screen blocked out.
If I'm not clear or you'd like more info, please check this out:
Wikipedia
In the end, it all depends what you intend to use your phone for.
P.S. Am a little puzzled why they'd go for 4:3 though. I thought that the standards have shifted to 16:9 and 16:10.
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I actually prefer a 4:3 for web browsing (at least on my desktop, as well as the iPad form factor). I would love to see a good implementation of it on a phone. Sadly, not sure that will happen with LG.
On a separate note, I just remembered my mother has an LG Vu already...
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Strange to recycle that name into an Optimus Vue for such a different phone.

Think of 4:3 aspect ratio as old-school CRT TVs, while 16:9 would be flat panel HD TVs.
Back on topic, I think manufacturers are finding a market for large phones or phoblets. As with the success of the SGN overseas has shown, once you go big, there is no going back. By having a phone of this size, you get the advantages of both a tablet and a phone and only have to carry one device. You also get the advantage of all day use because of larger batteries. There are may plusses with a phone this big.

adelmundo said:
Think of 4:3 aspect ratio as old-school CRT TVs, while 16:9 would be flat panel HD TVs.
Back on topic, I think manufacturers are finding a market for large phones or phoblets. As with the success of the SGN overseas has shown, once you go big, there is no going back. By having a phone of this size, you get the advantages of both a tablet and a phone and only have to carry one device. You also get the advantage of all day use because of larger batteries. There are may plusses with a phone this big.
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I agree. I had my doubts about using the Streak as an everyday device...but it took me just a few days to get used to it. I still remember in June 2010 when the EVO came out...and I thought 4.3 inch screen was huge.
But after using the Streak, I've become too spoiled with the extra screen real estate. So like even the GS2 and G Nexus both feel too small for me now.
It's even far worse with the iPhone...even if I'm using it for less than 1 minute just to input something....far too small of a screen in general...
Thanks to the phablet market, that's the main reason why I have never purchased a tablet. I would basically never use it if I had one, since phablets already cover what tasks I want to do.
But it's kind of funny to see many people have the iPHone + iPad combination...for that "cool" factor....

First of all 4:3 is a retarded design, 16:10 is as square as you'd want.
SECOND and Most Important of all.....
ITS LG!!!
I had a G2X and it made me hate android for the brief period I used one before hocking it on Ebay.
The most buggy horribly buggy phone I've used to date!
Even surpassing my old HTC Touch Pro using Winblos mobile!
If you don't care about Reboots, Lockups, Sound driver crashes, Thermal runaways, and battery life.... It just may be the perfect alternative to the Note!!

E_man5112 said:
I actually prefer a 4:3 for web browsing (at least on my desktop, as well as the iPad form factor).
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This is definitely a 'to each their own' but I prefer a widescreen screen in portrait mode. It's like, well, reading a book.
It's good for forums - less space wasted for short '10char' replies, etc. Longer lines can just wrap.
benefits of 4:3:
point and shoot cameras shoot pictures in 4x3 aspect ratios.
TV shows are in 4:3 aspect ratio.
benefits of a wider screen:
movies/HD shows are widescreen so less letterboxing.
SLR pictures are generally widescreen.
web browsing kinda varies with the web site I guess.
- Frank

Please stop whining about Ink Marks/Blotches on SAMOLED display

Been a lurker here in xda-devs even before i got my s2 last july 2011, Am about to have my actual s3 in about 12 hours from now. It seems the Ink mark/blotches issue is getting out of hand and some individuals are even opting to have their unit replaced/serviced because of the said issue. So its about time I step up and DID my own investigation about this issue:
Test Setup:
Canon 60D DSLR
Canon 50mm 1.4 USM lens
Galaxy S2 (SAMOLED)
Iphone 4 (LED - Just for comparison)
so lets get to the point:
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so the dreaded ink marks/blotches on screen scandal? i dont think so
because in Normal Usage, you cant even see those blotches
comparison with Iphone 4:
additional note: I used my S2 in posting this because my s3 will be arriving in a few hours. reserving the first three reply threads just to confirm ( repeat this test with the s3)
Bottom Line: Stop complaining about it, you wont see it in normal useage. thats all.
Important discovery: using this long shutter method also uncovers screen burn of my 11 month old S2 (upper part of the screen where time is) a good discovery heheh
Test Setup:

at last someone who knows what he's saying and a proof at it...i remembered a dude here who loved to whine too much about screen displays, but when asked about proofs and stuff, kaput...brave one mate!

I had a screen burn in and an ink mark on my Samsung Vibrant SGH-T959 and never really paid attention to it. I'm a phone owl who uses phone at night all the time. This problem doesn't really bother me. Yes, it's there but who cares

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kulzboy said:
I had a screen burn in and an ink mark on my Samsung Vibrant SGH-T959 and never really paid attention to it. I'm a phone owl who uses phone at night all the time. This problem doesn't really bother me. Yes, it's there but who cares
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and we can do something about it, thats the point...we can lower the brightness sets, use apps to fine tune our screen, use players that can decode well etc...no phone is perfect, but only the user can make it one...

Is the S3 there yet?
Is the S3 there yet?
Is the S3 there yet?
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Nice effect with the long exposure. Try it on black with the iphone?
I know it is called screen BURN IN, but the noticible view of the notification bar isn't necesarry a burn in. Plasma TVs have this as well, it isn't a burn in but rather a ghostly remain of the previous image that is slowly fading.
Try opening a black picture with white lines for 20min, then take the picture again, it might show the black lines instead of the notification bar.
You might, MAYBE, brake the myth about amoled burn in. How cool would that be

What app do i use to test it myself? and a great review mate thanks ..

fallenwout said:
Is the S3 there yet?
Is the S3 there yet?
Is the S3 there yet?
;-)
Nice effect with the long exposure. Try it on black with the iphone?
I know it is called screen BURN IN, but the noticible view of the notification bar isn't necesarry a burn in. Plasma TVs have this as well, it isn't a burn in but rather a ghostly remain of the previous image that is slowly fading.
Try opening a black picture with white lines for 20min, then take the picture again, it might show the black lines instead of the notification bar.
You might, MAYBE, brake the myth about amoled burn in. How cool would that be
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haha, getting me hyped up before i receive my s3 ayt? hehehe 10 hours to go bro, it is still in transit with the courier
anyways, that is the same BLACK Screen test i did with the S2, heheeh it turned out bright (white hehe)on the Iphone 4, hehehe shows the contrast advantage of the SAMOLED because it is really BLACK heheh
the screen burn-in in the S2 is the actual corpse of the dead blue subpixels on the samoled

BRAVO!!!!
Finally someone open a thread to shut up the whiners and not to join them.
My congrats to you sir.

If people find it irritating they will complain.

I have a couple of ink marks on my unit, I could put my dslr to use and grab a shot but the truth is I cant be bothered to do so.
My point is the problem does exist on the S3, however as stated above you dont see it during normal use so I'ma keep my unit.

I've never seen those on my gs2. I have a 4.5 inch one with the dreaded streaks, and it shows up on EVERYTHING, even on max brightness. That is a bigger concern. Hope the pentile gs3 doesnt have it. They are like lines on an old vhs tape, you know when you have to change the tracking to try and remove.
There's no use trying to be judgmental about people's complaints. Half the posts in threads with the smallest issue (camera jingly noise, warm phone, not perfect white) will tell the OP to return the phone. I just assume everyone on here is an asshole, including you!

cripes i love the attitude of people here...we have screen issues in the note threads and most of them uberly whine and complain and talk crap...but the ones who stuck it out are now reaping the benefits...honestly peeps...the problem is or may be there but it can be mended...lets wait for the actual s3 tests

The thing is that this problem exists since SGS1 days. Passing through the note, gnexus, etc. So you know that this problem is gonna be on the SGS3.
I have the ink marks too, i have a horizontal line about 0.5 CM long on the upperside of the screen.
In normal situation you can't see it, to see it you have to be looking right to that line in darkness watching a black image. I do that about 5 minutes before i go to sleep.
This is a non-issue for me. The problem is to the people who can see it under any light situation, i can understand them.
But if you are taking a picture in a complete dark ennviroment to find spots. Well, it's better to leave it there.....

@OP Im pleased for you that all of your marks are small and unnoticeable. Unfortunately, that is not the case for me... I have a large one right in the centre of the screen, visible without a DSLR.
And for the record. I can't see my marks either on high brightness like you used in your test. Try watching a film at night with the lights out, something with dark scenes like Tron. That's the real would situation i'm unhappy about.
I don't see why this issue shouldn't be discussed by people affected by it. Just my two cents.

Some people can and do see the spots and marks in normal use, and the fact is the quality of AMOLED screens and their durability varies a lot. This is what people are concerned about, don't generalize and say there's no problem.

Wondered how long it'd take for the complaints police to arrive here.

Agreed. Makes me laugh how the OP has basically set up a thread to whine about other people complaining. Even though some of then have legitimate reasons.
I think he was just bored because his S3 hadn't arrived yet. Ended up performing inaccurate tests on his S2 to pass the time.

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Wondered how long it'd take for the complaints police to arrive here.
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here they come
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Agreed. Makes me laugh how the OP has basically set up a thread to whine about other people complaining. Even though some of then have legitimate reasons.
I think he was just bored because his S3 hadn't arrived yet. Ended up performing inaccurate tests on his S2 to pass the time.
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i guess the point of the OP is valid somewhat for the reasons that some people here complain too much about screen problems and do nothing about it even if some able members suggest solutions...as said if you have a warranty and have noticeable screen issues then by God use that consumer right...and i hope you provide us with an accurate screen test of phones so as we may know what should be done...
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Lcd issue? Backlight on, small streaks and spots

So I was watching a youtube video tonight and part of the screen was black and I see these thick, kind of discolored lines, just a shade darker than the color of the backlight. I was like ok, just be the Youtube video, their cam was dirty whatever. Then I thought back a few days ago when I quickly noticed the same thing and put it off as nothing. Well I further researched it and found a completely black image on my sd card and displayed it at full brightness with the lights off and I found an annoying, yet not crutial, defect (maybe defect). It appears as though glue or something is on the underside of the lcd blocking light from coming through. I can barely find it if any light is displayed on the screen, but this dark video just made it seem so prominent. I wonder if anyone else has this issue or if it is infact a defect. I found it by viewing a dark image at medium brightness in a dark room. Putting brightness at 100% does make it a bit more prominent. I mean I could live with it I guess but it is extremely annoying to find something so stupid on such a great new phone. I wonder if it is a common issue and I ask you fellow gs3 owners to take a look at yours and tell me if it is just me. I have attached a photo I took with my dslr. The colors are kind of looking overdone because I had to bump my ISO up to like 6400 to even get a picture of it because it is so dark and I didn't want to run outside to grab the tripod. You should get the idea. The picture makes it look a lot worse than it really is. I have looked at the screen and I see no discolorations when the screen is off and I see nothing of that pattern while the screen is off anywhere on the lcd, but I couldn't find my super bright flashlight. What a day!
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Yeah I notice this in the dark when watching a YouTube video. Its apparently a samoled issue and something I never noticed on samoled + screen on sgs2. Its very common and have seen a few threads about it. The good news is that you only really see it in a pitch black room when using the phone on a dark screen. I've never noticed it durng the day
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Thanks for that. Now I know its not just me. You really settled my nerves, I was about the be pissed. The screen is beautiful beside that. It is just when it is pitch dark and I am looking at something black, otherwise, if there is probably 25% of anything else that is lit on the screen I probably won't see it. I guess I just caught it on one of those rare occasions when I am using my phone in the pitch dark.
Do you happen to know what those threads were called? I am having trouble wording the issue exactly lol

Nooo that is top much. Yes all galaxies have that issue but I think yours is too much. Exchange it i would say

Its just like this, apparently called "ink marks" Last picture in the op here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658601

Tbh I really only notice in landscape and not in portrait and the only ones I see are the ones on the left and the dot on the right if I do see them. I'd hate to take it back to get one with its own unique set of the same marks. Plus I rooted it and I'm not quite sure if the flash counter clicked , damn verizon

Finally I'm not the only one. It only happens with video and it doesn't matter out you play YouTube app browser or videos you have saved. And try recording and the play back is bloody red skill over the place. Best buy associates were freaking out with my old phone. Over had the gs3 replaced 3 times. And third times the charm. When life gives you lemons hope your within the 14 day trail period.
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Oh and no fix apparently according to best buy its a internal defect so hopefully anyone and everyone else has time to exchange.
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I might have gotten the perfect unit.. No ink spots, no tint... AT&T Pebble blue btw.

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I might have gotten the perfect unit.. No ink spots, no tint... AT&T Pebble blue btw.
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I thought the same thing until a week ago when watching something in the complete dark. For those that think their phone is perfect you'd have to check under the same circumstances to know for sure. A dark room and playing videos. I noticed it especially on netfix. I started a video and before the movie starts it goes to a black screen and thats when I first noticed. I do wonder if its all phones or if only a few of us have this defect
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So I was watching a youtube video tonight and part of the screen was black and I see these thick, kind of discolored lines, just a shade darker than the color of the backlight. I was like ok, just be the Youtube video, their cam was dirty whatever. Then I thought back a few days ago when I quickly noticed the same thing and put it off as nothing. Well I further researched it and found a completely black image on my sd card and displayed it at full brightness with the lights off and I found an annoying, yet not crutial, defect (maybe defect). It appears as though glue or something is on the underside of the lcd blocking light from coming through. I can barely find it if any light is displayed on the screen, but this dark video just made it seem so prominent. I wonder if anyone else has this issue or if it is infact a defect. I found it by viewing a dark image at medium brightness in a dark room. Putting brightness at 100% does make it a bit more prominent. I mean I could live with it I guess but it is extremely annoying to find something so stupid on such a great new phone. I wonder if it is a common issue and I ask you fellow gs3 owners to take a look at yours and tell me if it is just me. I have attached a photo I took with my dslr. The colors are kind of looking overdone because I had to bump my ISO up to like 6400 to even get a picture of it because it is so dark and I didn't want to run outside to grab the tripod. You should get the idea. The picture makes it look a lot worse than it really is. I have looked at the screen and I see no discolorations when the screen is off and I see nothing of that pattern while the screen is off anywhere on the lcd, but I couldn't find my super bright flashlight. What a day!
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This is a defective samoled. While the glue blotches exist in nearly all displays, yours are especially bad. The fact that you can record them and actually see them while playing videos is the deciding factor here.
For example, I can see those too - but only in complete darkness and while the brightness is at max - any kind of video or soft keys wipe out those blemishes. In other words, those blotches should be invisible under any usage conditions. Otherwise, the quality control has passed a lemon, which is clearly your case.
Exchange that phone for a new one.

Like I said, I if there is anything on the screen I can't see it. I have the reason it looks do prominent in the pics is that I boosted iso and it exposed for the baclight. I had to try really really hard to get a picture of what was going on there

yes. i have the exact same problem. thinking of getting it replaced today.
heres what my looked like:
made it in paint

The black ink thing is a common issue but there has to be some extent to which it's too much. I usually don't notice it and I can forget about it but for those times I do, it is quite the let down. I'll probably take it to Sprint this coming week and see what can be done.
My screen...not the best picture but at least it shows the blobs. I could care less about the black marks towards the top of the image. It's just the ones on the bottom that bother me.

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The black ink thing is a common issue but there has to be some extent to which it's too much. I usually don't notice it and I can forget about it but for those times I do, it is quite the let down. I'll probably take it to Sprint this coming week and see what can be done.
My screen...not the best picture but at least it shows the blobs. I could care less about the black marks towards the top of the image. It's just the ones on the bottom that bother me.
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Ahh yours is much like mine. I have tbh, and I tried finding it today during the day and no lights on with brightness maxed and I could not. I think I am going to stop stressing about it as it is only visible in very limited situations. I thank you guys for helping me out with this and really settling my nerves to know I didn't just get a bad one and that it is quite a common issue with different variations.

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Ahh yours is much like mine. I have tbh, and I tried finding it today during the day and no lights on with brightness maxed and I could not. I think I am going to stop stressing about it as it is only visible in very limited situations. I thank you guys for helping me out with this and really settling my nerves to know I didn't just get a bad one and that it is quite a common issue with different variations.
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i have to check mine now but either way if almost all units have it you may return it and get one that is worse