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I went on holiday recently, leaving my Wizard (02 Mini S) at home but I forgot to put it on charge. Now I have returned the phone is dead and will do nothing. Left it on charge (no charge light showed mind you but charger was plugged in and switched on) but still no signs of life. Any ideas please people?

maybe a minor problem -- dead battery?

Li-on battery doesn't like full flat. Chances are, you probably left it when the battery is low, and once you came back, it went to the 'bottomless pit'.
Anyway, there is a way to jump start it, by using a higher voltage source and spark it then charge it as normal. I dont remember the voltage use ,but you can have a search around here. Usually with people flashing their ROM, failed, left the phone around, and battery went dead.

heard of this happening with pocket pcs and phones alike when both backup and main battery are depleted.
Apparently one fix is to take battery out leave for a while (an hour maybe) and then put back in and put it straight on charge.
if that doesnt work you could try seeing if you get any resonse when plugged into your pc with the usb.
It could always be zecoj says a dead battery.
I have this exact problem with my old ipaq but just havent got around to buying a new battery yet as the battery out trick didnt work.
Hope you get it running again quicky.

hanmin said:
Li-on battery doesn't like full flat. Chances are, you probably left it when the battery is low, and once you came back, it went to the 'bottomless pit'.
Anyway, there is a way to jump start it, by using a higher voltage source and spark it then charge it as normal. I dont remember the voltage use ,but you can have a search around here. Usually with people flashing their ROM, failed, left the phone around, and battery went dead.
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found out about this one on my travels looking for a fix for my ipaq. lots of guides suggested stripping cables from a usb cable but im not all that happy doing that myself!

I cant see it being the battery, phone is only 11 months old for a start and it held its charge no prob before I went away. I have tried plugging it into the Pc and wall, no dice. Will try car charger cradle later and as we speak battery is out of phone for one hour as suggested so will see how that goes. Damn these so called 'smart' phones that cant even tell when the charger is plugged back in lol. Not so smart after all eh! No smart remarks about me not being smart enough to charge it while on hols either!!!!!

iirc its because they need a little charge in able to charge which is silly really. And allthough the battery is only 11 months old and would otherwise work fine ive heard of them breaking because of being left to run out.

woo-hoo!!!!! Car cradle attached to a battery charger on boost and bosh!! In there like swim wear!!! I have breathed life back into her again!!! Cheers guys, up and running!!! Sweet as. Yes, Im a bit happy.

Is my battery dead, or just messed up?

Ok heres my problem,
My phones battery is completely messed up. The phone ALWAYS says that its at %99 battery(and the number never decreases) but after a couple of minutes of use it will turn off by itself, no warning or anything.
I think I know how it happened(as a warning for other ppl). I went on vacation once and I didn't have a charger cuz there were no computers at the hotel, so I brought a random USB wall charger I found laying around(which I later found out it belongs to some spy pen camcorder ).
Unfortunately though it was charging SUUPPERR slow, so I got the crazy idea to charge it while it was off and to my surprise(dramatization) it charged (a lot)faster.
So I kept charging it like that every day and I noticed that every charge took less time than the last. It also started turning off by itself, though not as frequently as now. I thought the problem would fix it self once I charged it on my computer again, but I was wrong. TT_TT
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Can anyone offer any solutions? I have a G1 with CM5 and clockworks recovery. I know clockworks recovery lets you do something with the battery, but idk how to use that
please help, this is a REAALLY annoying problem thats forced me to go back in time

You need to make sure it's putting out the same amount of power as your regular charger. I'm not 100% sure of this, as all I can do is charge at my computer and I have no idea how that works (as in if computer puts out waaay more power or has a limit of how much to put out) but I've always heard too much can be a bad thing for batterys. Also, don't overcharge.
^^Just posted that in another thread.

sounds like a died battery

[Q] After several cycles on WP7 HD2 won't charge

After several cycles on WP7 the batt was fully drained and now it won't charge (charge LED goes on for few seconds and then goes off). It won't load either, just switches off on DFT screen. Batt is standard.
Guess it is critical not to allow batt to drain fully on WP7?
Is there any solution to this?
Thanks for any ideas.

Had a similar problem with Android...battery drained completely and wouldn't charge. I solved it by cutting the end off of a spare USB cable, removing the battery, and charging directly from the cable (red wire to positive/black to negative). After about twenty minutes I put the battery back in the phone and it booted Right up. Or, if you have more sense than me, you could just pick up an external battery charger...I'm just the hack apart a cable and do it caveman kinda Guy...
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I can confirm a similar experience; I thought it was worth trying the fully-drain-then-fully-recharge regime suggested elsewhere on these forums as a means of extending battery life, which does struggle a bit on WP7.
The fully discharge bit was easy, but it is worth everyone bearing in mind that magldr - as advised, I believe - will not allow the phone to charge. As a result, I was getting into WP7 (just) only for it to almost immediately shut down. But it was at least doing a small amount of charging before it did.
After a sweaty fifteen minutes or so of restarts (I was having to take the battery out to force the restart as it wouldn't start on the power button), it decided it had enough charge to...well, charge and all was well.
My suggestion would be not to risk going beyond the critical warning WP7 gives, at least until magldr is able to offer charging.

Almost the same issue here, without having let the battery fully drained...
I can't charge my hd2 anymore.....if it's turned off.
But, it Can be charged if wp7 is running! I don't know why...
I had This issue when I received the phone. It took me a whole Day to charge the battery the first time : orange LED turning off after 10seconds (HD2 switched off or in wm6.5
Once the led is off, can't turn the phone on or charge it again until I remove and put the battery back.
It was in summer so I thought the phone was too hot, so I cooled the battery with a fan, replaced it, retryed... At least 10times, and it finally charged.
SO weird, I'll test This again with wp7, who knows?

I am wondering whether it is some kind of magldr bug?
I'll try the trick with the cable directly to the batt. It is not very practical though if you drain your batt, where there is no access to spare cabling.

bdkinney said:
Had a similar problem with Android...battery drained completely and wouldn't charge. I solved it by cutting the end off of a spare USB cable, removing the battery, and charging directly from the cable (red wire to positive/black to negative). After about twenty minutes I put the battery back in the phone and it booted Right up. Or, if you have more sense than me, you could just pick up an external battery charger...I'm just the hack apart a cable and do it caveman kinda Guy...
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This should be put into the sticky rollup thread for people who have let their batteries drain.
Why dont you do some pics bud and create a topic?

I am cutting the cable as I write. Will take some pics.

If your battery drains completely, just remove it, replace it back. Without starting the phone, connect it to your PC. start and enter the bootloader. You'll be then able to charge. I did it like that last week.
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Running cable directly to the batt is confirmed to work. Just revived mine with this trick.

jemaho said:
If your battery drains completely, just remove it, replace it back. Without starting the phone, connect it to your PC. start and enter the bootloader. You'll be then able to charge. I did it like that last week.
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How do you enter the bootloader, if the phone is not responsive at all?

adminlt said:
I am wondering whether it is some kind of magldr bug?
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Less of a bug and more of an unwanted side-effect of having this excellent capability, I think. I seem to recall that the developers are aware and looking to see what can be done.
adminlt said:
How do you enter the bootloader, if the phone is not responsive at all?
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I guess it is possible to completely drain the battery, in which case this won't work. But if there is some power, removing the battery and replacing it should kick the phone into life for long enough to do this. This was going to be my first try if persistent rebooting hadn't eventually worked.

having this problem and definitely charging below the amount...
i cant fully charge the battery as well

Like I said, if connected, but not started, to your computer, you'll have enuff time to start it then and entering the bootloader, of course, you gotta be quick for this to work.
If it doesn't respond, don't laugh, confirmed to work, remove your battery like explained and put it for some mins in the fridge before replacing it (it's only chemistry playing here, somehow better than cutting a USB cable in 2).

jemaho said:
Like I said, if connected, but not started, to your computer, you'll have enuff time to start it then and entering the bootloader, of course, you gotta be quick for this to work.
If it doesn't respond, don't laugh, confirmed to work, remove your battery like explained and put it for some mins in the fridge before replacing it (it's only chemistry playing here, somehow better than cutting a USB cable in 2).
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You know nothing about chemistry at all! Cold kills battery charge if your going to use temperature use your armpit for 5 mins!

double post oops please delete

lilikin said:
double post oops please delete
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"storing them in the freezer might be more practical. These kinds of batteries lose their charge after a few days when kept at room temperature. But they'll retain a 90% charge for months if you store them in the freezer. Just like alkaline batteries, you'll need to wait until they've warmed up before using them. However, this isn't a problem when you need new batteries for your digital camera or other electronic gadget. "
I suggest you to be more polite when answering and learn your lessons before posting!

I finally made a dual boot Android/WP7.
At first, Android said my battery was fully charged, just like WP7, which is totally impossible as I used MAGLDR to format the SD card (wp7 & android partitions) and that it took me almost 1hour, without any possible way to charge the battery while I'm in bootloader mode.
But when I turned the phone off, plugged into the wall.......TADAA It was finally charging, with phone turned off
So, it seems that dual boot may be a way to solve this issue

jemaho said:
"storing them in the freezer might be more practical. These kinds of batteries lose their charge after a few days when kept at room temperature. But they'll retain a 90% charge for months if you store them in the freezer. Just like alkaline batteries, you'll need to wait until they've warmed up before using them. However, this isn't a problem when you need new batteries for your digital camera or other electronic gadget. "
I suggest you to be more polite when answering and learn your lessons before posting!
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You're arguing against yourself here aren't you? Cold may be fine for storage but you need heat to coax a little more power out. You even say 'you need to wait until they've warmed up before using them'.

adminlt said:
I am cutting the cable as I write. Will take some pics.
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If you could do some pics that would be great...I have two, "My computer's broken," calls to deal with today. Visuals might help some...it's appreciated.

Wrong idea, sorry guys.
I thought that HD2 was charging since I installed WP7 and Android in Dual Boot. But it's a fake : if the phone is turned off, and that I plug it, the orange led turns on. But that's all, even if I unplug the phone, the led remains turned on !!
And now, Android as well as WP7 are telling me that the battery is fully charged but I'm sure it's not even 50% full.

Bricked

Need some help hope i post this in the right place. i have gingerbread on my HTC HD2 and was converting back to windows to sell on ebay and i started it was almost done when i relised before i started i forgot to charge the battery and it ran out before it was done know the phone what turn on at all. i plug it in the wall charger nothing, plug it into the computer nothing tried everything nothing. do you think that the battery is that dead and it was in the proccess that the chargers dont work on it no more. would it work maybe if i had a charged battery to put in it. it mite come back on. any help would be great thanks.

lpartridge said:
Need some help hope i post this in the right place. i have gingerbread on my HTC HD2 and was converting back to windows to sell on ebay and i started it was almost done when i relised before i started i forgot to charge the battery and it ran out before it was done know the phone what turn on at all. i plug it in the wall charger nothing, plug it into the computer nothing tried everything nothing. do you think that the battery is that dead and it was in the proccess that the chargers dont work on it no more. would it work maybe if i had a charged battery to put in it. it mite come back on. any help would be great thanks.
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Just keep it plugged in for 1-2 hours and then try booting in to try color screen bootloader and go from there.....

If you have MAGLDR installed then you can not charge the battery when the phone is off.
You should try to charge the battery using an external charger.
Edit: If you have a friend with HD2 and windows Mobile 6.5 then you could use the phone to charge you battery.

Wrong, you can charge it while it's off.

StephanV said:
Wrong, you can charge it while it's off.
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really? are you sure? because there are a lot of references to the magldr bug that wont allow charging (or even powering on without pulling the battery) if you try to charge with the phone turned off.

well i tried to charge for the last 2 hours nothing tried to remove battery nothing. Iam going to try and find a charged battery to see if the phone mite turn on or something. ill post later to let yall know what happen tho. thanks for the help.

samsamuel said:
really? are you sure? because there are a lot of references to the magldr bug that wont allow charging (or even powering on without pulling the battery) if you try to charge with the phone turned off.
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Just give it a try man and see for yourself whether it charges or not....

what are you guys fighting about man, they just updated the magldr v1.3 and yeah we can now charge the phone while its off

Sukuya said:
what are you guys fighting about man, they just updated the magldr v1.3 and yeah we can now charge the phone while its off
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Wrong x2.
1. No one is fighting.
2. With new magldr, phone turns itself on when plugged in. Charging when off is not possible. The battery requires management which is only implemented in software. It may hold a small charge if you have magldr installed, but it won't charge fully, or properly. Also, it's not likely he's got the new magldr if he's returning back to windows.
Lastly, for the OP, what method did you use to return to winmo? And which winmo rom did you use?
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Find a way to charge your battery and everything it's going to be just fine.Your phone it is going to work.

Changing the battery should work.

I'm new here so basically with new 1.13 or later phone can't be charging if it's not turned on?

Makić said:
I'm new here so basically with new 1.13 or later phone can't be charging if it's not turned on?
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Read? Phone turns itself on if you connect a charger. Phone has NEVER charged while off with nand. This way at least you don't have to pull the battery to turn the phone on.
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Just in case: If you on same situation that described on first post try this:
Q: If you completely run down the battery, would you be able to charge it with the phone again?
A: If your battery is dead, press and hold Vol Down and plug in USB cable / charger at same time. Phone will boot into bootloader and charge there just fine. Leave for 20 mins, pull battery, reboot and charge normally. If phone has just run down, plugging in the charger will usually turn it on.
Its found on one NAND thread and goals goes to g.lewarne
Actually i was on same situation and this helped on first try.

check the connection between battery and phone , the metal things i mean.

Perhaps, it is off the subject, but...
Poster #1: why do you want to get rid of this beautiful phone?
Just curious...

ok i bought another phone and i took out the charged battery from it and put it in the bricked HTC and it does nothing. now i know it was almost reverted back and i think the battery ran down but Iam not completely sure but maybe it could have been in the reverting software i used and maybe it just like lock up or something cause at that point you couldnt see the battery indicator. now i guess ill just have to sell on ebay for parts but it would be cool to try and un-brick it or try and figure it out.

Not recognizing battery

So after a long fiasco of installing an old GB leak before installing the latest version, to running into force close loops and freezing at the M logo. So finally i reflashed everything and rebooted and bam! i finally got 596 to work. But i noticed that my battery logo had a question mark and that it basically wasn't recognizing my battery. I thought maybe a simple reboot will fix it, went in cwm and flashed the 596 deodexer and rebooted. Got into the lock screen when i noticed it immediately said Connect Charger. When i unlocked the screen after about 10 seconds it went black and my phone wouldn't turn on. If i connect it to pc the led flashes blue for a second meaning the battery is dead but with the battery not being recognized it cannot charge. If i connect it to a wall charger it loads up the M logo and goes to the battery charging screen, when you completely drain your phone and need to wait til its 5% to turn on, but again has a question mark in it. I don't have any external chargers either. Whats my best course of action? Do i have to go out and buy a new battery...? All helps appreciated.

im very sorry about bumping my thread.., but my phones just sitting here useless and its very aggravating and extremely inconvenient so once again, any and all help is appreciated please gentlemen(ladies).

If you can boot even for a second, boot into clockwork recovery and find the option to wipe battery stats. I would try that.
Also, even with a charge, booting while plugged into AC causes it to show the charging screen. Unplug it, turn on your phone, and in the middle of booting THEN plug it in.
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djsupersoak said:
If you can boot even for a second, boot into clockwork recovery and find the option to wipe battery stats. I would try that.
Also, even with a charge, booting while plugged into AC causes it to show the charging screen. Unplug it, turn on your phone, and in the middle of booting THEN plug it in.
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Thank you for the reply, ill try wiping the batter stats asap might have to end up ghetto rigging a charge into it. Ive heard that car chargers/external chargers will still charge it, is this correct? I would love to try your second idea except for again i don't even have a charge anymore. i tap the lock button and the led flickers blue for half a second, which if im not mistaken means the battery is completely dead. While i guess its always possible, never really expected my phone to just randomly stop realizing there's a motorola batter inside of there.
Edit: also if im not mistaken i believe that i had tried to plug the charger into after/during boot up and it still says its not a certified battery or whatever the message is and refuses to charge.

Not entirely sure about the car charger idea. It might work. Kind of skeptical on that if it won't even charge when connected to a computer. You could always purchase a new battery, maybe the extended. If it doesn't work just return it. If you don't want to purchase one, I possibly could ship you an extra one just to borrow and try to see if it's a battery or phone issue.

If you have a friend with another droid x you could try borrowing his or her battery to see if the actual battery is the issue without buying one...
It sounds to me like the battery stats on your phone got corrupted when flashing the new software and need to be cleared, which as said before can be done in CW recovery. There is also an app called BatteryCalibration which will help the situation also after you actually get booted up.
Hope this helps!

Tone_Capone said:
If you have a friend with another droid x you could try borrowing his or her battery to see if the actual battery is the issue without buying one...
It sounds to me like the battery stats on your phone got corrupted when flashing the new software and need to be cleared, which as said before can be done in CW recovery. There is also an app called BatteryCalibration which will help the situation also after you actually get booted up.
Hope this helps!
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I have actually seen the app before, at the time didnt really notice what it did but i understand a bit more now. If any of the actual charging methods work ill definitely try that. Might just have to hook it up to a split usb for a while to get a decent charge.
djsupersoak said:
Not entirely sure about the car charger idea. It might work. Kind of skeptical on that if it won't even charge when connected to a computer. You could always purchase a new battery, maybe the extended. If it doesn't work just return it. If you don't want to purchase one, I possibly could ship you an extra one just to borrow and try to see if it's a battery or phone issue.
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Thanks for all the help man, really appreciate it. Ill try the car charger i suppose, wont hurt. Worst case I do actually have a friend with a DX so i can see whats up with that. Ive been meaning to pick up the extended for a while now just never really got around to it, guess this might give me an excuse. thanks for the offer to send out a battery though

No problem. I've got a bunch of unused stock batteries for various phones from all the extended battery upgrades we've gotten.
In any case, if you can't wipe battery stats, trying a friends battery or something would be the next best thing.
What I would do if you borrow a battery, if it STILL shows the question mark then it is a phone problem. Boot into CWM and wipe battery stats while using your friends battery, then try your own.
Even if your friends battery works without giving the question mark, wipe stats anyways and maybe it will stop doing it for yours.
Best of luck to you with this!
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djsupersoak said:
No problem. I've got a bunch of unused stock batteries for various phones from all the extended battery upgrades we've gotten.
In any case, if you can't wipe battery stats, trying a friends battery or something would be the next best thing.
What I would do if you borrow a battery, if it STILL shows the question mark then it is a phone problem. Boot into CWM and wipe battery stats while using your friends battery, then try your own.
Even if your friends battery works without giving the question mark, wipe stats anyways and maybe it will stop doing it for yours.
Best of luck to you with this!
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Great news gentlemen! so after trying the usb split usb method to charge my phone, the first time it didnt work. i just figured i didnt have the wires pushing on the battery poles enough so i retried it. Ended up forgetting it was plugged in and about 30-45 minutes later took it off. plug her in and my phone started up, good signs so far. Finally my os loaded and lo and behold, there's my battery showing green! So i quickly throw it on my wall charger and its charging too. Wiped my battery stats just in case anyways and reflashed everything. Got 596 loaded up and running and deodoxed. After trying to install a battery mod i got a few boot loops but after a wipe didn't work luckily i made a 596 nandroid before trying it. Flashed back to that and everything loaded up fine. Cant thank you guys enough for the help you've been. making a nandroid once my full set up is back to normal haha