What does rooting your phone actually do? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I heard that it makes it faster. I would love to make my Mytouch 4g faster. should i root?

FishKr4zy said:
I heard that it makes it faster. I would love to make my Mytouch 4g faster. should i root?
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Rootin dnt make it faster,its flashin a custom rom & kernel that makes the phone faster... All I can say is read,read & more read,make sure u get familiar with ADB & FASTBOOT which are the 2 main things that can help u if u end up with a soft-bricked device.. Again read cause I made the mistake of jumpin right in & ended up with a nice lookin paperweight lol
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FishKr4zy said:
I heard that it makes it faster. I would love to make my Mytouch 4g faster. should i root?
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Rooting allows you root access to your phone and thus you're able to do many things to your phone. You can change the firmware you're running on, the kernel, the boot animation, the splash screen, the clock speed, and many other things. If you're up for the challenge I'd suggest doing it. Although like the guy above me posted you should read, read, read before you do anything.

I will say this, I just rooted mt4g two days ago and installed a custom rom into it and it is running 10 times faster if not even more then the stock rom... I can't believe i waited so long to root and change rom..

Same here. I just rooted my phone and installed MIUI. I really love it.

aferstilo said:
I will say this, I just rooted mt4g two days ago and installed a custom rom into it and it is running 10 times faster if not even more then the stock rom... I can't believe i waited so long to root and change rom..
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Rooting your phone does not make the phone any faster. Flashing the Engineering screen doesn't make it any faster. Flashing the recovery image doesn't make it any faster.
Flashing a Developed ROM makes it faster. Flashing a kernel that will allow for overclocking with make it faster.
It has nothing to do with the "action of rooting". the other posters above are 100% rooting only allows you to obtain SU access. With that SU access you can flash various ROMs or Kernels that will make if faster.

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One click root - DOES work on myTouch 3G

There was a locked thread in development where someone asked if it would work. A lot of people replied (obviously without even knowing what they are talking about) that it wouldn't work.
it DOES work on the myTouch 3G's - I just did it on one.
It works on any android phone - but the current apk implementation flashes the 1.4 cyanogen recovery image so it only works on phones that image will boot (i.e. the HTC Dream, or the Sapphire... etc)
It's way easier to apply that than it is to apply the nbh downgrade... etc.
Cool
I posted the question in a wrong area im glad someone with a mytouch tried it i bricked my first mytouch
Worked
This worked for me also I am now on CyanogenMod v3.9.11.2 and it works very well.
TY Cyanogen!
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Works...but hesitant
This definitely works on the MT3G just tried it...whew glad it worked Still extremely hesitant on flashing new rom though. Dont know why even though I have a rooted G1. Perhaps I just love this phone too much to f*#$ it up
RyeBrye said:
There was a locked thread in development where someone asked if it would work. A lot of people replied (obviously without even knowing what they are talking about) that it wouldn't work.
it DOES work on the myTouch 3G's - I just did it on one.
It works on any android phone - but the current apk implementation flashes the 1.4 cyanogen recovery image so it only works on phones that image will boot (i.e. the HTC Dream, or the Sapphire... etc)
It's way easier to apply that than it is to apply the nbh downgrade... etc.
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Now that I think about it...If you just use this to get the recov img the MT3G still has the "perfected" spl. So exactly will this allow you to flash any new ROMs? That is why the "goldcard" was used to trick it and flash to an earlier "non-perfected" spl which would then allow you to flash ROMs updated radio etc etc etc. Shed any light on this?
I know there can be risks when doing any kind of modding/hacking. What is the main risk with rooting the MT3G? Is it mainly an issue with the battery falling out or running out of juice? Or is the rooting process invasive enough (i know it is root = can touch everything) or unstable enough that there is a relatively high probability of an issue running the canned procedure?
I have my phone, love it, my wife would kill me if I wrecked it. I just want to know how likely I am to end up with a brick using this method.
Also a question to understand this procedure, if I run the apk and reboot normally then there is no lasting root, correct? I have to go into the recovery mode and flash over a new rooted rom for root to become permanent? Does this actually change the SPL on the MT3G, does it preserve the ability to flash other roms at any time in the future? I want to know if this is a one time open up your phone for rooting or if after I do this will I always have root.
Sorry for all the questions, but I have been lurking around and haven't found definitive answers to these questions. Thanks!
Dave
Dave, Ive used this method. However if you didnt notice in my previous post...the spl does NOT change. Which is why I questioned the ability to flash any ROMs. The more "complicated" method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133) requires a "goldcard" with an earlier version of the spl. Which I believe allows flashing to occur.
Yeah, I saw your post after I posted. I think this is great for a simple root I am thinking to have future rooting I will need the goldcard method anyway.
It would seem that this method should be able to modify the SPL since it is able to run as root, maybe not though...
I did mine last night and now doing my wifes MT3G and I was comparing cyanogen's vs stock and its night and day...no loading screen issues with cyan's build and keyboard response got better too...
LOL yeah Ii was thinking about the SPL if we can change it out? I kinda want to call my phone semi-rooted
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
bobzoz said:
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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Still waiting on this one also hehehe haven't seen anyone do it yet!
im debating on getting a mytouch if i can get full root in just a few clicks hmmmm definatley a positive haha. hows the mytouch work in recovery terminal? since theres no hardware keyboard?
bobzoz said:
im debating on getting a mytouch if i can get full root in just a few clicks hmmmm definatley a positive haha. hows the mytouch work in recovery terminal? since theres no hardware keyboard?
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just use the trackball to select what you want...cant use console though (ALT-X)
Works
bobzoz said:
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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Just did it...1.33.2005/ also S-off. this is definitely legit and makes things a hell of a lot more easier than all those damn adb commands. Dont get me wrong at all I do appreciate all the work that was done by Haykuro and the other boys because without them Im sure this wouldnt be possible. Anywho...it works.
Okay. As newb as one can get with phone mods, etc. But it actually works. I dont know what the exact benefits of it are but I am running... Mod version CyanogenMod-3.9.11.2 per about phone. All my downloads are gone but it worked. I dont know what the difference/any limitations is for down the road, in comparison to the gold card method (I hope none), with this type of root but hey it actually worked and I would have kick my own a$$ if I bricked my phone. Thanks to folks who found this way and are their any "rooted" differences now that I am on cfw using this method for say updating to cyanogens 4.0 eventual release?
Alright, I took the plunge and it worked flawlessly!
I use the 1 click install via the market app called Recovery Flasher. I installed CyanogenMod 4.0.1 Stable. Zoom zoom zoom...
I thought I may have had an issue when I rebooted after flashing since it sat at the MyTouch 3G splash for a ton longer than normal. I had read it was normal for the first boot to take longer so I didn't freak out and pull the battery. I just let it come up and now I couldn't be happier.
If I remember reading correctly CyanogenMod has the fix for the root vulnerability used in this hack to root plugged. So, now that I have a rooted ROM and recovery 1.4 will I ever need to worry about having the dreaded "Perfect SPL?"
so easy a caveman could do it! a thousand times, thank you.
so its confirmed you can FLASH a different SPL with no problem ? cuz if so im gettin a mytouch ! lol
go for it
bobzoz said:
so its confirmed you can FLASH a different SPL with no problem ? cuz if so im gettin a mytouch ! lol
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go to town boss...now i need to get out of the stupid hero boot loop.
Thanks. I also took a chance since I got my Touch for free by Timo mistake. Couldn't resist. Aside a few apk not able to install everything works fine. Noob question, can I now format sd card?
Oh, thanks for Quick Office.

confused about rooting

I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...
I used unrEVOked Forever and rooted my phone. It was easy and quick. It rooted it and kept the stock rom. I used it for like 2 weeks then decided I would try Warm. If you use unrEVOked, it should keep the stock rom and be rooted. After that, it's your choice to swap roms. I like Warm because it has the stock Sprint hotspot enabled.
parker81 said:
I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...
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You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.
You don't have to use a custom rom unrevoked installs a stock rooted and you can still update it ota but you loose root if you do custom roms sometimes add some tweaks and functionality that you don't get from stock so they are worth looking at.
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m4rk0358 said:
You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.
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thanks guys for the super fast replies...
i can just use unrEVOked3 right?
it sounds like unrEVOked forever is geared more towards someone want to use custom roms...
i also found this tut..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXWm8262iMU&annotation_id=annotation_81633&feature=iv
Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
Sent from my warmed up evo
firestetz said:
Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
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i have to use both?
No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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TheMagicalSock said:
No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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Your right it does but if you read on just about any forum here it's not a full unlock but by using unrevoked forever you get s-off or security-off which when you're talking about stock rooted lets you upgrade and root without waiting for someone else to produce a stock rooted update rom.
Sent from my warmed up evo

[Q] New User of Magic, Rooting Query...

I have a new Magic (32b Google/Vodafone Ed) and I am hoping this is an ok question to ask... Any help, is much appreciated!
I've been searching through forums and seeking help wherever I can and not getting anywhere fast with information I'd like.
Firstly, when I bought the phone (2nd hand) it came with Cyanogen on it.
But there were all sorts of issues and so I had to do some fast learning, to fix it.
I managed to find out how to flash the phone, and reinstall the Restore functionality on the phone......
Once that was done, I was loving it and started installing apps.
I thought I had it perfect, so decided to install a theme (I didn't know it was untested) so when I flashed it, it locked the phone into a boot loop.
I spent 24 hours trying to understand how to 'fix' it as I restored a NAND backup which wasn't mine, and ended up with the phone back to it's factory default Vodafone Android 1.6 version with the old owners picture lock code!!!
A friend ended up 'fixing' it, I believe by getting a good copy of the default OS and flashing it with the fastboot menu.
After he did that, Vodafone here released an over-air update, so the phone is now running the default HTC Android version, but on 2.2.1
What I would like to know, is before I embark on the rather terrifying task of trying to put Cyanogen back on, is what are the benefits to rooting the phone vs the risks?
I understand that the risk of 'bricking' the phone is very real, and if I screw it up, I could basically destroy the phone, but do the benefits outway the risk?
I now have been given the Goldcard, plus install files for Cyanogen the original owner used to root the phone, so I am reasonably confident that it will work fine - as it was running Cyanogen beautifully (other than a couple minor glitches) when I got the phone.
If I root the phone and install Cyanogen, what benefits do I get over the stock 2.2.1 install?
IMHO the real true benefits from rooting is the complete freedom and the ability to really make the phone your own.the question you asked has been asked so many times and truthfully the real reward comes with actually rooting the phone yourself.
1. itll free up ram on the phone allowing you to do things faster(this depend on what rom you get too)
2. you can put apps on a part of your sd card which will keep your phone going fast just dont over do it
3. overclocking and underclocking to speed it up even more
4. the themes! me personally i dont care too much for themes people complain so much about them but its whatever.
5. the customization is really endless
the real reward comes with finally exhaling that breath after you first start rooting your phone lol.
thisishoot said:
the real reward comes with finally exhaling that breath after you first start rooting your phone lol.
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Well... now that I know I'll get for sure!!! As I know how rough it was when I broke it hahaha
As for the rest, you aren't able to change things like themes without rooting??
Pretty girly I know, but that's one of the main things I really want to do with it!
Being faster would be a help too as I have found over the past few days, that sometimes it can be quite slow..... Would Cyanogen speed it up a bit?
thecharmed01 said:
Well... now that I know I'll get for sure!!! As I know how rough it was when I broke it hahaha
As for the rest, you aren't able to change things like themes without rooting??
Pretty girly I know, but that's one of the main things I really want to do with it!
Being faster would be a help too as I have found over the past few days, that sometimes it can be quite slow..... Would Cyanogen speed it up a bit?
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Most stable ROM's will help with performance, CyanogenMod being one of them. The myTouch has a CPU rated for 576 MHz(if I recall correctly), but it comes from the factory underclocked at 384 MHz. Most ROM's have an OC kernel in them and will just require that you install SetCPU to control the CPU speed. As for your worries about bricking your phone, nowadays you don't even have to have a Goldcard. You can simply root with one of the many one-click root programs, use ROM Manager to flash a custom recovery (I prefer Amon Ra, but you can also use ClockworkMod) and create a backup of your untouched ROM, and then flash a new ROM from there. It's really all quite simple now IMHO, unlike when I originally rooted my phone using the Goldcard method.
hmm, is there a tut for that somewhere? As the only tutorial I have atm is the Cyanogen one which requires a Goldcard, dropping back to an older version, then rooting the phone?
I'd love to see another way of doing it?
Here's one and there's also the z4root app. You used to be able to use Universal Androot, but the exploit it used was patched in that 2.2.1 update you got.
Do you have any idea if the HTC Magic is compatible with that? As if it is, it is looking most intriguing!
thecharmed01 said:
Do you have any idea if the HTC Magic is compatible with that? As if it is, it is looking most intriguing!
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All three of the methods I mentioned will work for the Magic. The one I linked should work fine.

Permaroot and stuff, questions

OK first off:
Alrighty.... here we go. I am running Gingerbread 2.3.4.
The of the permaroot method says:
How to get S =off and superuser permissions
Make sure you are on 2.2.1 software and fastboot is turned off, usb debugging is turned on and phone not connected to computer via usb cable... before u attempt this.
Soooooo.... can I successfully permaroot and s-off running gingerbread using the permaroot threads information or do I need to do something else? Do I need to downgrade to froyo? If so how?
The reason I ask is I got my MyTouch 4g 2 months ago. Followed this thread to what I thought was exact. I ended up with fail pu and total brick. (Very very noob at that time, I am much more capable now.) HTC fixed the beast but I got it back with gingerbread. I really want to root this beast as I want to putz with the custom roms. I have an atrix so this phone is a spare (edge baby) but don't want to brick it again.
How (if at all possible) can I tell if I have the "bad chip" (which happened to me already with a bad eMMC)?
Primaraly I want to just get rid of the bloat and get a more streamlined phone. I really just want to dump all the bloat. So... should i get permaroot + s-off, is their a rom similar to an ASOP or just a vanilla gingerbread rom for this phone.
Any help is appreiated. Thanks to everyone out there.
Thanks.
grhand82 said:
OK first off:
Alrighty.... here we go. I am running Gingerbread 2.3.4.
The of the permaroot method says:
How to get S =off and superuser permissions
Make sure you are on 2.2.1 software and fastboot is turned off, usb debugging is turned on and phone not connected to computer via usb cable... before u attempt this.
Soooooo.... can I successfully permaroot and s-off running gingerbread using the permaroot threads information or do I need to do something else? Do I need to downgrade to froyo? If so how?
The reason I ask is I got my MyTouch 4g 2 months ago. Followed this thread to what I thought was exact. I ended up with fail pu and total brick. (Very very noob at that time, I am much more capable now.) HTC fixed the beast but I got it back with gingerbread. I really want to root this beast as I want to putz with the custom roms. I have an atrix so this phone is a spare (edge baby) but don't want to brick it again.
How (if at all possible) can I tell if I have the "bad chip" (which happened to me already with a bad eMMC)?
Primaraly I want to just get rid of the bloat and get a more streamlined phone. I really just want to dump all the bloat. So... should i get permaroot + s-off, is their a rom similar to an ASOP or just a vanilla gingerbread rom for this phone.
Any help is appreiated. Thanks to everyone out there.
Thanks.
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S-OFF IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR GINGERBREAD 2.3.4 ON MYTOUCH 4G. you must downgrade to 2.2.1 to obtain root access.
link here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912&page=9
i am not responsible for anything that happens to your device.
Dude, you serious kick a**. That has got to be the quickest reply I have ever gotten, and great info. Thanks +100.
Snap, done in a jiffy.
BTW, what is your take on Virtous Unity? Is it a great everyday?
I have s off so.is.it possible for.me ?
Ginger 2.3.4 S=Off No Root
grhand82 said:
Dude, you serious kick a**. That has got to be the quickest reply I have ever gotten, and great info. Thanks +100.
Snap, done in a jiffy.
BTW, what is your take on Virtous Unity? Is it a great everyday?
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VU is one of the most popular out there sense-wise. Really good battery life and smooth for a sense rom, afaik still on 3.0, but still very good, i ran it for a little while, if you want sense 3.5 tdj's runny remix is good, i got pretty decent battery and it's pretty smooth as well, and it comes with demonspeed kernel, always kickass
grhand82 said:
Dude, you serious kick a**. That has got to be the quickest reply I have ever gotten, and great info. Thanks +100.
Snap, done in a jiffy.
BTW, what is your take on Virtous Unity? Is it a great everyday?
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dude man VIRTUOUS UNITY IS DA BEAST!!
lol no problem buddy just hit the thanks button if i've helped~
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Tez MyTouch said:
I have s off so.is.it possible for.me ?
Ginger 2.3.4 S=Off No Root
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yes, it's possible, just need a way to root gingerbread 2.3.4 and get clockworkmod recovery on there.

[Q] Upgrading back to Stock 2.3.4 while keeping S-Off and Rooted

Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.
kearnsy said:
Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.
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just flash the rooted rom of the MT4G 2.3.4 update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
not sure how you missed it lol...
flash the rooted version in this thread.
flash via CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY.
hit the thanks button if i've helped
Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.
kearnsy said:
Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.
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lol it's ok, everyone makes mistakes

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