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Tonight at Golfland in Mesa AZ, my sons 10th birthday, set my phone down for a second to grab my 3 year old daughter. Less than a minute later I realized that my phone was gone, and immediately began scouring the area. There was a line of people waiting to ride the gocarts and because of the location I had my prime suspects. I asked everyone in line nicely once, looked around again, and then asked again not-so-nice. (I'm 6'8" and not skinny) No one fessed up, so I gave a report to the security guard and had a Golfland manager announce the lost phone across the PA. (yeah right, that was going to work...)
The manager found me 15 min later with my phone in her hand! It was found in the mens restroom (about 150 yards from where I knew I lost it). The cover was gone and it was stuck in the boot screen. I pulled the battery to reboot and noticed my sim and 16gb microSD were gone. I've got the a19 Desire rom. Is it normal that it won't boot without the the SD storage? I can still get into recovery, but without the storage I have nothing to recover. Also, I had an older ROM where I had registered with WaveSecure, but never logged in or activated with the current ROM. WaveSecure wouldn't have saved me this time would it?
I wonder if the thief realized that the phone could be tracked via GPS and that was the reason they dumped it. Kind of a crappy story with an alright ending, but I'm still out a SIM card and $50 for another microSD.
I don't think the desire rom has anything running on the sd card except appstosd which wouldn't effect how it boots up , try getting a 512 mb card or somthing and reflash the rom.
Thats kinda wierd too, usually people take the phone and leave the sim card not take the sim card and leave the phone. Call at&t or tmobile and tell them your sim was stolen and they can see if the guy makes any calls on it or inserts it into another phone.
Austin021296 said:
I don't think the desire rom has anything running on the sd card except appstosd which wouldn't effect how it boots up , try getting a 512 mb card or somthing and reflash the rom.
Thats kinda wierd too, usually people take the phone and leave the sim card not take the sim card and leave the phone.
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If he had been using App2SD it would boot loop if the SD card was removed.
OP:
Wavesecure probably wouldn't have done anything in that case since you hadn't signed back in. Wonder why they took your SIM and SD card, but left the phone? Maybe they saw the wavesecure app in the drawer, and got scared?
damn sorry to hear that if you install wave secure on it you could log on to the Wave secure site and disable your phone, and if you're like me you can leave them a message asking them to return it, this message would be displayed on the phone..
but only if you had wave secure installed...
Good luck man
If he stole that SIM you better cancel your sim or deactivate it.
The phone will not boot right now, but I'll get a new memory card in the morning and try reflashing. I'm not using app2sd so I was surprised the phone won't boot. I don't have t-mobile or ATT, but a local Carrier. I'll also report the SIM stolen in the morning.
The more I think about it, the more i'm convinced that I spoke with the guy who had my phone when it was missing. I think my angry demeanor and menacing size might have made him think twice (causing him to dump the SIM and the memory card) and then think thrice (just decided to dump the whole thing). Who knows...
aww man that would have been sooooo funny if you had wave secure. You're asking the guy if he has your phone, he says no, you activate the alarm and your phone starts screaming from his pockets, he pees his pants, you knock his lights out and get your phone back, justice is served
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aww man that would have been sooooo funny if you had wave secure. You're asking the guy if he has your phone, he says no, you activate the alarm and your phone starts screaming from his pockets, he pees his pants, you knock his lights out and get your phone back, justice is served
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Lmao I would pay money to see that.
Never leave a nice phone unattended! People suck. Put it in your pocket when you are done.
I unfortunately missed the deadline for free WaveSecure but I installed an alternative called Mobile Defense. It works well enough, I can log in and enable it to track with GPS and make it sound an alarm and or message. I even installed it as a system app so it has the authority to enable GPS if it is disabled.
I have never lost a phone before and I hope to keep it that way, but this gives some peace of mind.
Wouldn't be cool if Google added a tab to Gmail that allowed you to input your Android phones and track them via GPS etc?
Man, that would be awesome. Get on it Google!
about stolen nexous one
I know that WaveSecure does not let you have 3g our will not let you connect data without a password. Even if you don't sign up for it when someone else puts there sim in your phone it tells you on boot up that this phone is not your and its this persons number (our something like that lol lol )
I now because i bought my friends nexous one because he has att and could not get 3g and i had tmobile and wanted to sell my mytouch and buy his nexous
and he bought the new att nexous
Everything worked great when i bought the phone off him but i went from cyanogens rom to modaco r19 and it said that the sim card is not the owner of this phone. so i had to call him and he did not set up a code with wavesecure so we had to email them and do a reset and they email me back the code to reset it..
that is what saved your phone the punk put his sim in your phone and it would not work our told him its your phone.You should have kick someones A***
i hope you get it all fixed
sorry to hear about what happened... Golfland always has sketchy people floating around there at night so I cannot say I am surprised...
if u catch the thief wot would u do? kill him init lol?
let him eat your cooked rom lol
Bummer...to bad WaveSecure wasn't there to shut it down.
Hmm, Reasons why the phone wouldn't boot may be because he/she probably tried to flash any rom you had without wiping or tried wiping the phone and did something wrong. So its safe to say the person tried to do some type of wipe.
That means he/she must have had some previous knowledge on how to do so. Now go find the person you think has that knowledge....
Finally got home with a new microSD card and did a wipe and reflashed. It took a couple minutes but it finally came up. I'll be getting a new SIM tomorrow. I booted with no SIM, and there was a message waiting from WaveSecure: "This phone may be lost or stolen." in bold type. I'm guessing the thief booted the phone with no SIM and saw the same message and dumped it.
Yeah, I think who ever snagged it had half a clue what they had, otherwise they might have kept it.
For someone who loves gadgets, as corny as it sounds, I feel like I've got a second chance of sorts. I probably wouldn't have bought another Nexus, at least not for a few months. I guess I just appreciate it more now that I nearly lost it. I want to hack it some more to do more cool crap.
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Hmm, Reasons why the phone wouldn't boot may be because he/she probably tried to flash any rom you had without wiping or tried wiping the phone and did something wrong. So its safe to say the person tried to do some type of wipe.
That means he/she must have had some previous knowledge on how to do so. Now go find the person you think has that knowledge....
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There were litterally dozens of people I didn't know at a place 140 miles from home. The guy I suspected the most did look slightly computer dorky in a white trash sort of way. (probably how people would describe me as well, lol) Anyhow, I'll just taking the experience as a lesson learned...
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Also, I had an older ROM where I had registered with WaveSecure, but never logged in or activated with the current ROM. WaveSecure wouldn't have saved me this time would it?
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altarity said:
For someone who loves gadgets, as corny as it sounds, I feel like I've got a second chance of sorts. I probably wouldn't have bought another Nexus, at least not for a few months. I guess I just appreciate it more now that I nearly lost it. I want to hack it some more to do more cool crap.
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This is your sign (and everyone reading) to install and activate both WaveSecure AND Mobile Defense.
Both of them! Do it now! Yes, right now!
Do it!
yea... that's why I don't hang out in Mesa at night ;-)
Stick to Scottsdale ;-)
I am glad you got your phone back though. I am suprised someone in the line didn't finger the person for you.
Wanted to give EVO 4G owners/potential owners a heads up regarding a pretty serious issue with the included SD cards - have a look: Is HTC EVO 4G About To Be Launched With A Massive Defect In The Included 8GB MicroSD Card?
Oh great. I should've waited for things like this to develop before preordering. Hope it's nothing major.
To be fair, it wouldn't be a true HTC phone without some sort of major defect.
haven't had any problems
It could be a destructive application.
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Several people seem to have it on the Android forums for the Evo: http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g...disappearing-defect-included-8gb-microsd.html
Really hope this doesn't become a major problem.
I don't consider a SD card problem a "massive defect". If it was the slot or the phone then yes. I'm sure HTC will replace the cards no problem. I already have my own card so? Why you people seem to be freaking out of this its nothing. BIG DEAL.
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I don't consider a SD card problem a "massive defect". If it was the slot or the phone then yes. I'm sure HTC will replace the cards no problem. I already have my own card so? Why you people seem to be freaking out of this its nothing. BIG DEAL.
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Well it may not be the cards that is the problem. It could be a hardware issue where due to the awkward positioning of the card the phone doesn't read it sometimes, which would be a significant problem that would near impossible to fix.
I haven't experienced any problems.
I use my own 16GB card and dont have any problems. Maybe the shipped card is bad - but it is not a device deffect.
I had that exact same problem with a 4gb card from microcenter in my hero until one day, it completely died. After I replaced the card, the problem went away. It's probably just the card.
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Well it may not be the cards that is the problem. It could be a hardware issue where due to the awkward positioning of the card the phone doesn't read it sometimes, which would be a significant problem that would near impossible to fix.
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I remember the 5/19 engadget review mentioned:
"The microSD card lives underneath the battery, so we'd probably recommend just getting a nice big one (good luck finding a 32GB!) and leaving it put -- especially since HTC has chosen one of the most unusual slot designs we've ever seen on a phone. Basically, the card rests loosely in a trench and is secured using a plastic peg overhead; press it down to hold the card in place. A fingernail is enough to pop the peg up again, and the card just falls right out. It's such a bizarre design that we can only assume it was necessitated (versus, say, a conventional spring-loaded slot) by virtue of the EVO's tightly-packed circuitry. Nothing a good, old-fashioned teardown won't definitively answer, we're sure."
So is this a hardware or officially resolved software or combo issue or will we not really know until after the June 4th launch (asks an eager beaver)?
zone23 said:
I don't consider a SD card problem a "massive defect". If it was the slot or the phone then yes. I'm sure HTC will replace the cards no problem. I already have my own card so? Why you people seem to be freaking out of this its nothing. BIG DEAL.
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First of all, we still don't know what the issue is exactly - hardware, software, or a combination of the two.
And if the problem is widespread, new EVO users, who may not be tech savvy or have spare SD cards, will not be happy and this is the publicity HTC doesn't need.
And finally, if it is a bad batch, I'd like to know how HTC plans to address it and what we would need to do to get the fix.
I have seen this issue with my evo. I will test out 4gb card and see if the issue goes away.
No issues for me.
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Swapped that sucker out with a 16GB since the day i got it. No issues
I have an EVO from the I/0. I re-formatted the card before I put anything on it and haven't had any problems with it.
No issues with my nexus one 4 gb card. I will try formatting the 8 gb and try again.
Archon810 said:
Wanted to give EVO 4G owners/potential owners a heads up regarding a pretty serious issue with the included SD cards - have a look: Is HTC EVO 4G About To Be Launched With A Massive Defect In The Included 8GB MicroSD Card?
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Geez...It's a freaking storage card. You gotta love the hysteria that results when a story is headlined with the words "Massive Defect".
A massive defect would be "half the screen goes dead when used in temps of 70 F or higher" or "phone bricks when you install a memory manager".
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Geez...It's a freaking stroage card. You gotta love the hysteria that results when a story is headlined with the words "Massive Defect".
A massive defect would be "half the screen goes dead when used in temps of 70 F or higher" or "phone bricks when you install a memory manager".
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Again, if you bothered to read the article or prior posts before commenting, you'd know that nobody knows the root of the problem. It is not necessarily a faulty storage card. It could also be a problem with the hardware where the memory card does not stay connected to the phone, which would be a major issue, and replacing the memory card would not solve it. I know I'd be very upset if every time I wanted to take a picture the phone told me there was no available memory card to save it to. It also could be a software problem, which hopefully should not be too difficult to solve.
According to a poster on the Android forums,
"I contacted sprint about this problem tonight, they told me they knew about it already. Sprint said the only phones that have this problem are the ones that google gave to their employees and to the reviewers. It was a software issue,apparently the issue was only with the first 2,000 phones google gave out. With the phones being released on June 4th, the software issue is resolved. I am switching form the Crap pre to the HTC Evo 4G, and I am glad to now be a part of Android Forums. Thanks guys and have a good night."
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g...sappearing-defect-included-8gb-microsd-2.html
So let's hope that is the case, but who knows how reliable either the guy is or the person he talked to at Sprint. We'll have to wait and see if it happens to us.
Hi,
I'm really hoping someone might be able to give me some advice.
I've had my Desire HD for about eight months now, and counting the one I lost about 10 minutes ago, I've gone through a total of ten memory cards.
Each time I get a message saying it's been unexpectedly removed, or that it is blank or damaged. I've tried Sandisk and Samsung cards, all Class 2 / 8GB.
I hardly ever remove the memory card, but when I do I am always careful to unmount it. The same as when I connect it to my PC via USB.
After the 8th memory card died, the Gingerbread update had just been released, and I was hoping it was due to a software issue. However, as expected, my 9th memory card died shortly after. I contacted HTC who sent me ONE replacement SD card, to which I explained that I wanted my phone repaired. Courier picked it up, they said that it was being caused by a software issue and simply done a reset.
I knew it wouldn't work, and low and behold my 10th memory card has just died.
I am now contemplating going to Phones4U and asking for a replacement, as someone else has mentioned in the forum. However, there was one thing I wanted to check with people first.....
I connect my phone to my car stereo via Bluetooth, which I use as a handsfree and to listen to music that is stored on my phone. Now, normally I just turn my car stereo off. How likely is it that this could be causing the card failure? I don't see how, as the memory card isn't physically being removed, but I wanted to get people's thoughts on this before I start pushing Phones4U for a replacement!
I don't think your cards are physically damaged. They just need to be formatted.
ozaghloul said:
I don't think your cards are physically damaged. They just need to be formatted.
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I don't think it's my cards that are physically damaged, but it must be a hardware issue with the phone. Each of the memory cards either say it's been removed, or that it's blank or damaged. Some of them I can put into my PC and repair. Some of them worked again after I had formatted them, however 5 out of the 10 would not even be picked up by my PC.
I have now emailed Phones4U, so I shall see where I get (if anywhere) with them.
What HTC firmware are you using? There was an issue with 1.72 that caused symptoms such as yours. That is one of the issues that got the OTA pulled.
I have the phone number for Phones4U's written complaints team, the team that you always get told don't accept incoming calls. Should you need it, just let me know.
Sounds a very similar problem to mine mate........
s32bauer said:
I don't think it's my cards that are physically damaged, but it must be a hardware issue with the phone. Each of the memory cards either say it's been removed, or that it's blank or damaged. Some of them I can put into my PC and repair. Some of them worked again after I had formatted them, however 5 out of the 10 would not even be picked up by my PC.
I have now emailed Phones4U, so I shall see where I get (if anywhere) with them.
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Hi there s32bauer,
I think i may have seen the same problem, although i have only tried 2 /sdcards and they BOTH work on the PC or lappy afterwards.
See this thread for more on my issue,
Hope you have a little more luck than myself.
I have had some great help off some great people on here at XDA though......Thanks guys...
P.S. Have you been running any custom ROM's? If so, what were they?
i had the same problem when on 1.72, i went through 3 16sdhc cards. i fixed this by rooting and using leedroids gingerbread.
all three cards which were broke i managed to fix and they are now in good use in my wifes wildfire and our galaxy tabs, the 32gb card i now have in my phone has been in there for about 4 months now with no more unexpected removals.
The only other time i had this problem was with my motorola milestone, it also ate cards - but the phone was next to useless as it was sig locked and never updated (got a full refund as flash never arrived in the 9 months i owned the pos).
Gone through 10 memory cards that's absolutely insane!! Even more insane that a OTA can be released that causes it.
I think your owed some replacements if the cards are screwed.
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The same has happened to me... I broke around 5 SDcards like that. Problem solved by rooting the phone and Gingerbread !
andyharney said:
What HTC firmware are you using? There was an issue with 1.72 that caused symptoms such as yours. That is one of the issues that got the OTA pulled.
I have the phone number for Phones4U's written complaints team, the team that you always get told don't accept incoming calls. Should you need it, just let me know.
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I've been through quite a lot. The first two died on 1.32 I believe. Then I lost SIX on the 1.72 firmware. Another one once I'd upgraded to Android 2.3, and then the final one the other once I'd received it back from HTC.
The number for Phones4U would be brilliant, thanks!
LandUzu said:
Hi there s32bauer,
I think i may have seen the same problem, although i have only tried 2 /sdcards and they BOTH work on the PC or lappy afterwards.
See this thread for more on my issue,
Hope you have a little more luck than myself.
I have had some great help off some great people on here at XDA though......Thanks guys...
P.S. Have you been running any custom ROM's? If so, what were they?
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Hey, thanks for the link. I'll have a look through, although I'm going to continue to push for a brand new replacement I think.
Tried 1.32, then to 1.72, and then Android 2.3. One of them was a custom ROM, but had one die on that one too unfortunately, so I'm quite sure it's just my phone being a dud! lol
ToneyEricsson said:
Gone through 10 memory cards that's absolutely insane!! Even more insane that a OTA can be released that causes it.
I think your owed some replacements if the cards are screwed.
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Hmmm, HTC Support only feel that I'm entitled to ONE replacement card lol. Pathetic really. Still, hopefully Phones4U might be a bit more co-operative.
just to confirm...
s32bauer said:
Hmmm, HTC Support only feel that I'm entitled to ONE replacement card lol. Pathetic really. Still, hopefully Phones4U might be a bit more co-operative.
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i have bought another 4GB sd card and my DHD STILL wont recognise it......its a dud handset imo.
How old is yours out of interest? Ive had my DHD since January.
Good luck with Phones4U.
s32bauer said:
Hmmm, HTC Support only feel that I'm entitled to ONE replacement card lol. Pathetic really. Still, hopefully Phones4U might be a bit more co-operative.
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Just been looking at the SanDisk warranty on faulty non working micro SD cards - you should be able to get replacements as long as you have proof of purchase.
Maybe spread them out over a few weeks each if you have a few
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Ive gone through 2 (ebay) 32gb sd cards in 2 months, both didnt last a reboot, and were fubar afterwards, can anyone else who is running a 32gb card confirm it works ok? Or have I just been unlucky with 2 bunk suppliers?
Sounds more like you got crap cards off eBay, my 32gb card works great
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kujoswrath said:
Sounds more like you got crap cards off eBay, my 32gb card works great
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Any pointers on which type of card yours is? I think it needs to be a sdhc card but dont know what class number it should be. I seem to see that they have different classes.
Or which seller you purchased from??
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Loriski said:
Okay new here hope this is the right place.
I bought a N2a card on amazon and it works fine. Now I would like to get another nook color for my daughter but hate to spend more money on another ready made card for her's with CM7 on it. Maybe it's my SD card? ( Adata 8 gig not sure maybe doing it wrong.) If I could make a image of the one I bought Sandisk that would be great but I can't find out how to.
Thanks, Lori..
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Let me get this straight. You were too lazy to make your own card, you bought one already made and now you come to us to see if you can essentially rip off the people that make the N2A card so you don't have to spend any other of your tightfisted dollars? I hardly think so!
Maybe someone on here will forward this to the N2A people in case you were dumb enough to use a screen name that was close enough for them to identify their customer......
Loriski said:
Okay new here hope this is the right place.
I bought a N2a card on amazon and it works fine. Now I would like to get another nook color for my daughter but hate to spend more money on another ready made card for her's with CM7 on it. Maybe it's my SD card? ( Adata 8 gig not sure maybe doing it wrong.) If I could make a image of the one I bought Sandisk that would be great but I can't find out how to.
Thanks, Lori..
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You're not ripping anyone off. You purchased the N2A card. Now it's yours, you can do with it as you wish. You're not burning it to sell to someone else. Hey, maybe you want a backup of your card in case the one you have messes up.
You can either use WinImage to back up the whole card and burn the image onto the new one.
Or if you have a mac or linux box, you can use the "dd" command to do essentially the same thing.
-Racks
patruns said:
Let me get this straight. You were too lazy to make your own card, you bought one already made and now you come to us to see if you can essentially rip off the people that make the N2A card so you don't have to spend any other of your tightfisted dollars? I hardly think so!
Maybe someone on here will forward this to the N2A people in case you were dumb enough to use a screen name that was close enough for them to identify their customer......
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Who Pissed in your coffee this morning???
Loriski said:
If I could make a image of the one I bought Sandisk that would be great but I can't find out how to. /QUOTE]
Someone has said they "CLONE" the uSD.
I've never done it b4 so can't tell you for sure whether it works or not.
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You're not ripping anyone off. You purchased the N2A card. Now it's yours, you can do with it as you wish. You're not burning it to sell to someone else.
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You folks are not reading her post. She wants to clone it to use on another Nook Color. That is called piracy. In fact, it is prohibited here in the forums....
Mod time:
So, this post was brought to my attention, and is a very interesting one. At the surface, this act looks as if it is a warez post, but a little background makes me think otherwise (perhaps putting it in a grey area).
The n2a card, is actually little more than CM7 preinstalled on a new(?) SD card. Because CM7 is an open and free project, I do not feel that cloning a purchased card is actually stealing anything... indeed, the same result can be achieved with the user putting CM7 on the card the same way as n2a does it. Additionally, places advised that you really paying for the card, with the convince of having cm7 already on it.
For now, I am leaving this, but will note that tis is pending further review and discussion, and things may change...
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Mod time:
So, this post was brought to my attention, and is a very interesting one. At the surface, this act looks as if it is a warez post, but a little background makes me think otherwise (perhaps putting it in a grey area).
The n2a card, is actually little more than CM7 preinstalled on a new(?) SD card. Because CM7 is an open and free project, I do not feel that cloning a purchased card is actually stealing anything... indeed, the same result can be achieved with the user putting CM7 on the card the same way as n2a does it. Additionally, places advised that you really paying for the card, with the convince of having cm7 already on it.
For now, I am leaving this, but will note that tis is pending further review and discussion, and things may change...
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Well put Madcat! How the heck are ya, forum moderator now huh? Awesomeness. Hope all is well!
Hey hey! Yep, I am now a NC mod (among other forums)...
Anyway, as is it, I am leaving the thread as is. Leaving personal feelings aside, there is nothing wrong right now. Keep it clean guys, and all is good..
racks11479 said:
Well put Madcat! How the heck are ya, forum moderator now huh? Awesomeness. Hope all is well!
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I don't think that would be piracy any more than making your own card. N2A doesn't do anything special to their cards. You buy the service off putting Android on the card, that's it. N2A owns nothing on that card.
That being said, it still would probably be easier to follow the directions in this forum and make a new card.
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patruns said:
Let me get this straight. You were too lazy to make your own card, you bought one already made and now you come to us to see if you can essentially rip off the people that make the N2A card so you don't have to spend any other of your tightfisted dollars? I hardly think so!
Maybe someone on here will forward this to the N2A people in case you were dumb enough to use a screen name that was close enough for them to identify their customer......
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Okay let me set you straight I had a adata card and tried to make one and I failed maybe it was the card brand??????? So no I was not lazy.
Anyways I bought one that the guy said was paying for his time to put the free software on the card that was a sandisk brand. He said he does not own the software. So if this card does fail and or I want to use the free software on another nook I don't see a problem as I paid for the guys time already. Now if I'm wrong I'm sorry.
Thanks for your time,
Lori..
SCrid2000 said:
I don't think that would be piracy any more than making your own card. N2A doesn't do anything special to their cards. You buy the service off putting Android on the card, that's it. N2A owns nothing on that card.
That being said, it still would probably be easier to follow the directions in this forum and make a new card.
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Thanks for your post. I wish it was easy I failed so I bought one. Maybe the card brand bad? I think I will try a sandisk card and maybe I will get it figured out.
Thanks,
Lori..
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Ok, I admit I over-reacted in my original post. I've always felt the selling of the N2A card was a bit of a ripoff of all the hard work put into CM7 by the developers, especially since there was never mention of any proceeds going back to support the developers. $34.99 for an 8GB card, $49.99 for a 16GB card and $79.99 for a 32GB card ...... really? Then to see someone buy one card and then simply want to clone it to use in another NC (her daughter's if I recall correctly) just did not seem right. But, I defer to the moderators......
patruns said:
Ok, I admit I over-reacted in my original post. I've always felt the selling of the N2A card was a bit of a ripoff of all the hard work put into CM7 by the developers, especially since there was never mention of any proceeds going back to support the developers. $34.99 for an 8GB card, $49.99 for a 16GB card and $79.99 for a 32GB card ...... really? Then to see someone buy one card and then simply want to clone it to use in another NC (her daughter's if I recall correctly) just did not seem right. But, I defer to the moderators......
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Hi Again,
I agree with you totally on the money being sent to the people that developed the software. I don't have a issue with that part. ( I still don't know why they give it away for free?) If the CM7 people sold the card I would have bought from them. This is not my fault that the N2A ripped those people off. I just felt I didn't want to send N2a anymore money for something I already bought and if software is Free didn't think that was wrong. I was not going to do this to make money like them. I just need a backup for use in another one or maybe in case this one messes up somehow. I tried making my own at first but with blue dots and other items I got so confused what to do and didn't want to mess my new refurb CN up. Maybe after my chemo treatment effects subside I will feel better and can try again with a sandisk card this time. I would also like the moderators to just please delete all these posts.
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Lori
Loriski said:
Hi Again,
I agree with you totally on the money being sent to the people that developed the software. I don't have a issue with that part. ( I still don't know why they give it away for free?) If the CM7 people sold the card I would have bought from them. This is not my fault that the N2A ripped those people off. I just felt I didn't want to send N2a anymore money for something I already bought and if software is Free didn't think that was wrong. I was not going to do this to make money like them. I just need a backup for use in another one or maybe in case this one messes up somehow. I tried making my own at first but with blue dots and other items I got so confused what to do and didn't want to mess my new refurb CN up. Maybe after my chemo treatment effects subside I will feel better and can try again with a sandisk card this time. I would also like the moderators to just please delete all these posts.
Thanks
Lori
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I think any number of people have tried with the instructions here and failed to make a usable card. Why? I don't know. Maybe it's because of the plethora of conflicting instructions. Maybe it's the links to outdated software, or dead links. Maybe it's just the "simply do this, then this, then download this that may not work with your OS, so you might have to do this, then be sure to hold the buttons down just this length of time," and so on, but I tried twice and gave up.
So, I bought an N2A card, inserted it, and my NC booted up immediately and it all worked. That's certainly worth something. I now have the fairly nifty Android tablet running Jelly Bean that I had hoped to have almost a year ago, and despaired of every successfully setting up. I don't think the payment to N2A was out of line, considering the time I had spent trying to do the same thing.
I'm not sure I'd pay them for a second card, if the first one died and I had a backup.
To whomsoever it may concern. Yes that's what my state of mind is right now.
I will begin from the beginning then.
So heard on 4th October 2016 that google is launching it's Pixel phones. Couldn't have been more excited with the news as I am a big android fan boy. I had been using the Nexus 6p then, so the news of the Pixel phones was really pleasing to me.
I wait for the Pixels to get launched in India. 26th October 2016 is the date. I pre-order my Pixel XL very silver 128 GB before hand and receive the handset on 26th! Very happy!!
I haven't ever used a better phone than the Pixel XL. The smoothest android experience. Period.
So a month passes by. The phone does overheat from time to time but other than that it worked fine. My "rock solid" Pixel XL gets about 40 GB full. One fine day, while I was trying to open a PDF from my drive, the device freezes and reboots. Nothing to worry, sometime android does that, I think to myself. Same day, Gmail freezes and the phone reboots. Then the Camera freezes and it reboots. Now I started to see a pattern. Tried uninstalling apps one by one, to pin point the root cause. Found nothing. Tried Safe Mode. Still it would freeze and reboot. Finally, made my peace with a factory reset. The phone started behaving. I told myself that I must be some rogue app.
This cycle continues again when the phone reaches that 40 GB mark. It would freeze and reboot. Factory reset once again. It works fine.
So I start suspecting the phone internal memory. I fill up the around 80 GB with random videos and music. The restarts start happening like clockwork.
Come 6th December 2016, and I receive the 7.1.1 update. Everything goes smooth. The phone acts normal, for sometime at least. I call up Google Support on the 8th and the guy tells me to take my phone to the service center.
Moments after, I see my phone restarting. It boots up and it's sitting on my table. In about five minutes, while lying idle on the table, it reboots. And this time, it reboots to boot-loader. I try to start the phone with the power key and the volume keys by choosing the right option. It boots back to boot-loader. Doesn't load up android. So somehow my phone was soft bricked just sitting idle on the table.
I am not new to the fastboot mode and decide to flash the stock rom. However, there is this issue that i suddenly see. The fastboot screen on my phone says Baseband : N/A and my bootloader is locked! The only option I see to get android up and running is using stock recovery and sideloading the Stock ROM, which should have worked as Google Stock ROMS are signed and might have not need unlocked bootloader(I did my research). I select recovery, and surprise surprise! The phone says recovery can't be loaded, press any key to go back!!
So now my phone has no OS, no baseband, no recovery with a locked bootloader! And i don't know how it happened!
I take the phone to the service center today around 11 am. They can't make sense of what happened. They say they would keep the phone for sometime. I get a call from them around 4, which was like half an hour back. The guy tells me there is a power button issue and another hardware issue(which he doesn't specify) and tells me they will keep the phone for 2 days. And repair it!
WHAT!?! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU REPAIRING MY PHONE GOOGLE!?! It's a new phone, not even 2 months old! And it doesn't come cheap! For the price amount I would expect it to work flawlessly!! I ask the service guy for replacement unit, and he says it is more than 14 days old, and gives me all terms and conditions! The problems that I had with this phone couldn't have been foreseen!! Till the time the internal storage gets to about 30 percent full the restarting issue did not show itself.
I expect a replacement unit or a full refund. Because this is just not fair! Not really happy with you Google. Thanks!
P.S.: thanks for reading this.
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I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
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If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
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So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
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If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
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He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
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He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
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Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
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I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
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It is a hardware problem only, the phone worked fine till the 40 GB or so mark. And yeah, seem to feel unlucky about this now.
Also, I am not bashing HTC for this, they were pretty nice and they are doing their job. I understand that. Just not happy about the situation I am in that's all.
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Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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I wish i would have damaged the device just so that I would have something to blame this on.
And as for the car issue, you would want a new car, won't you? They will indeed repair it, however, a customer asking for a new car which works doesn't sound dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
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Thought as much. Thanks for reading the long post!!:good:
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Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
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The problem is when they eventually return the phone, it would be hard for me to understand if the problem persists until I get a PC in front of me and fill up the device. And the problem is pretty random too. Thanks for the reply though.
No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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Got a faulty Pixel XL, issue with the logic board(based on what i have read on this discussion so far), not really happy with HTC opening my new phone and repairing it. I paid for a new phone and I want a new phone which works! I know I am whining a bit.
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No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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You read my mind!! Totally agree!!:good:
At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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It surely is not a good policy to have. And with the pixel devices the resellers were a part of the launch process. It was not like we had to wait for a few days after it was available online. It was almost the same time. I hope i get my device as soon as possible in working condition, because as I mentioned earlier, I love the phone. Also I have been using a prehistoric Nokia 1100 which I found in some corner of my house as I don't have any other back up device currently.
I'm just impressed that Google had a service center in Bangalore.
Yeah sucks. Let us know how it goes.