Do not flash ota!!!!!!11 it's got a bootloader in there
I'll have something flashable shortly!!
you've been warned.
Are you saying that they are trying to lock us down now?
Do we have any info on the bootloader changes?
with fastboot ala oem unlock how can they lock us down?
Thanks for the heads up
Is this a headsup for what will happen, or did you actually get your hands on the 3.1? Got me excited!
Awesome! You are the best! Long live XDA!!!
Hopefully you'll have something flashable for us wifi users???
kewl, can't wait to see the changes on the WIFI-only one.
guessing this'll be a rooted update.zip we flash via CWM BRD you rock!
Pretty sure he's saying it'll overwrite any bootloader you've already installed, IE Clockwork Recovery.
Could you upload the update for those of us that don't care about the bootloader?
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Elysian893 said:
Pretty sure he's saying it'll overwrite any bootloader you've already installed, IE Clockwork Recovery.
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Clockwork recovery is not the bootloader, it's a recovery. I would expect Moto to push out new stock recoveries (hopefully that support the sdcard).
But really I don't expect this to screw up anyone's root or bootloader. Proof or GTFO.
Im upping it now. I have not flashed yet. Working on modified safe version. Honestly, I don't know what that bootloader binary does. And I personally don't wanna find out. I've been in this game to long to mess with all that. However, if anybody want's to play guinea pig, go for it.
dimitri407 said:
Are you saying that they are trying to lock us down now?
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No, he is making huge assumptions without anything to back it up. I HIGHLY doubt this will lock down your device.
bigrushdog said:
Im upping it now. I have not flashed yet. Working on modified safe version. Honestly, I don't know what that bootloader binary does. And I personally don't wanna find out. I've been in this game to long to mess with all that. However, if anybody want's to play guinea pig, go for it.
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I'll load it tonight, really REALLY REALLY highly doubt this has any adverse affects and is probably just a bug fix anyway.
Seriously you guys are sometimes way to paranoid.
Got a link to the OTA?
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Clockwork recovery is not the bootloader, it's a recovery. I would expect Moto to push out new stock recoveries (hopefully that support the sdcard).
But really I don't expect this to screw up anyone's root or bootloader. Proof or GTFO.
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Just open up zip and look at that bootloader.bin staring at you. I'm not being alarmist. Well, actually, yes I am. So I'll have the link in a quick second here. Please flash and get back to me.
UPDATE DOWNLOAD VERIZON 3G ONLY!!!!!!!!!1
http://www.multiupload.com/MAW2MD8GJQ
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Just open up zip and look at that bootloader.bin staring at you. I'm not being alarmist. Well, actually, yes I am. So I'll have the link in a quick second here. Please flash and get back to me.
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http://www.multiupload.com/MAW2MD8GJQ
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Any chance this will work with the WiFi Xoom?
nemith said:
I'll load it tonight, really REALLY REALLY highly doubt this has any adverse affects and is probably just a bug fix anyway.
Seriously you guys are sometimes way to paranoid.
Got a link to the OTA?
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I hope I'm wrong and everything is just fine. However, as a developer, I have an ethical obligation to protect users. Period. If I see something that don't look right, you're damn right I'm gonna be paranoid. What would you guys be saying if it does lock down the system? "Oh, how did BRD miss that!?" You don't know if Motorola changed their mind about OEM unlock. But please flash and let us know.
How would we go about flashing this. I'm backing up my xoom now and am willing to try if I knew how to install it.
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I hope I'm wrong and everything is just fine. However, as a developer, I have an ethical obligation to protect users. Period. If I see something that don't look right, you're damn right I'm gonna be paranoid. What would you guys be saying if it does lock down the system? "Oh, how did BRD miss that!?" You don't know if Motorola changed their mind about OEM unlock. But please flash and let us know.
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I understand trying to educate and warn users, but this is neither. This is just FUD spreading.
A more appropriate post would be "Warning: there is an updated bootloader binary in the motorola update. It is probably nothing, but you may want to hold of on updating until we find out more"
As a developer you shouldn't be participating in just FUD spreading (and generation) and get to the bottom of it. Claiming otherwise just makes that large "Donate link" at the bottom of your posts even more ironic and annoying.
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I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
aviwdoowks said:
I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
DubleJayJ said:
So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
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You will most certainly be able to unlock the phone with the latest update using either cellzealots method or mine, but the bootloader will remain locked disabling the ability to use custom roms. If you get one on the 98.17.66 (?) Software your good to use Matt's Droid RAZR M Utility to unlock the bootloader yet so dont take the update, unlock the bl and do what youd like
DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Root works fine still using the RAZR M Utility
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
DubleJayJ said:
So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Too bad you aren't closer to Reading, I could really use the business at my shop lol
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DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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I have both to play with and I have to say I like the feel and size of the RAZR M moreso over the bulk of the HD. won over my Galaxy Nexus which hates me now lol
jco23 said:
stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
braveally said:
Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
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Its a great little thing, I have people playing with them in my office all the time even my boss and hes an iFart lover
Okay we have a Bounty thread... Leave that for just plain Bounty pledges..
In here feel free to talk about BootLoader discusions, Root discussions..
Nice thread. Would be nice to discuss about Moto Maxx root as well. Since it has unlockable bootloader, I believe root is pretty doable, but I have no idea how to, since there's no custom recovery yet.
Nice thread.... looking forward
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some one knows how can we help to find a exploit or something that will make our Turbo able to get root??
When lollipop gets released for the Turbo, I'm going to have a tough decision. I really want that sweet new lollipop, but I also know that the chances of rooting it will go down significantly. So, the question is, should we stay on KitKat in hopes of getting root? It's going to be really hard to resist 5.0. And since the 2014 Moto X just got it, I think we're not far behind.
There's a vulnerability in KitKat, we just have to figure out how to exploit it. CVE-2014-7911. More info can be found at http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Nov/51.
Your chances of getting root with LP and a locked bootloader depend on an exploit which has yet to be found and that may be some time and on some phones has never happened on previous operating systems. You would be much better off if the phone was released for unrestricted world wide sales but being CDMA and a Verizon exclusive is guaranteed to prevent the large scale adoption that would have made it more attractive to developers. Realistically no one here knows better than you whether root is more important than getting LP are for you. For my purposes I consider root a must have while having no issues with kk which I like just fine which would make it an easy choice.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
madeiracam said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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Maybe. With Qualcomm chips, it's possible to make reverting to an older version result in a hard brick. With Big Red's knowledge of what they can do, unfortunately, they might implement this "feature". Plus, a vulnerability has already been found. We just need to figure out how to exploit it.
madeiracam said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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At least with my Motorola RAZR M, every time they had a big version upgrade they also upgraded the security partition (which would be incompatible with prior firmwares), making it impossible to downgrade without an unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
r3pwn said:
I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
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I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
josebama said:
I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
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Yeah, sure. I'll send I sent you a PM.
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
greekstile said:
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
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Yes, but not if you're about to send it back. I'll get another one. I wouldn't be able to test if the unlock worked.
When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
greekstile said:
When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
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With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the qfuse gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
EDIT: qfuse, stupid autocorrect
I'm willing to give it a shot. Just let me know.
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With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the cause gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
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i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
danger2u said:
i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
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How does one have a Turbo that is eligible for unlocked bootloader? This sounds like candy covered in gold to me.
Looks like there's a new vulnerability that is able to achieve root through a couple security holes.
Ran the Quadroot scanner app on my galaxy s7 edge PD8 and it does show its vulnerable to this.
From what I've read, this malware can achieve root just by installing it like any other Apk app.
Would it be possible for Devs to purposely download the malicious malware and make a working towelroot like root method for our devices?
Link:
http://wccftech.com/quadrooter-vulnerability-affects-900-million-android-devices-check-infected/
I just ran the app on the latest PG1 firmware and the app said this:
KillerClaw321 said:
I just ran the app on the latest PG1 firmware and the app said this:
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My rooted SGS 7 flat on pd8 ( the previous update) says not affected by it.
Well, I used a different app for the scan. Using the same app as you, I got the same results as you. S**t
Someone should contact @geohot and beg him to work on this :3
That or @jcase. Both would be great at this methinks.
Xshooter726 said:
Looks like there's a new vulnerability that is able to achieve root through a couple security holes.
Ran the Quadroot scanner app on my galaxy s7 edge PD8 and it does show its vulnerable to this.
From what I've read, this malware can achieve root just by installing it like any other Apk app.
Would it be possible for Devs to purposely download the malicious malware and make a working towelroot like root method for our devices?
Link:
http://wccftech.com/quadrooter-vulnerability-affects-900-million-android-devices-check-infected/
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These are no more dangerous than any other kernel exec vulns, and alone wont offer you anything. These will not unlock the bootloader, allow you to flash supersu, or let you change system.
jcase said:
These are no more dangerous than any other kernel exec vulns, and alone wont offer you anything. These will not unlock the bootloader, allow you to flash supersu, or let you change system.
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So if you can't change the system, then why should anyone be worried about this? Sounds like if we can't use these to access the system, neither can malicious attackers unless I'm missing something.
sirslipzalot said:
So if you can't change the system, then why should anyone be worried about this? Sounds like if we can't use these to access the system, neither can malicious attackers unless I'm missing something.
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Well they can exec code as the kernel, anf you could stack it with some DM verity or bootloader exploit, but alone the best you MIGHT get is a temp root
jcase said:
Well they can exec code as the kernel, anf you could stack it with some DM verity or bootloader exploit, but alone the best you MIGHT get is a temp root
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I have been talking to an agent from T-Mobile and he confirmed that they are doing nothing regaurding a bootloader unlock like some have been hoping for. So now I'm kinda pissed at them and mostly Samsung. It seems devs need to find another way to unlock the bootloader. :/
KillerClaw321 said:
I have been talking to an agent from T-Mobile and he confirmed that they are doing nothing regaurding a bootloader unlock like some have been hoping for. So now I'm kinda pissed at them and mostly Samsung. It seems devs need to find another way to unlock the bootloader. :/
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If you really thought that they were going to unlock the bootloader for us then I'm the prince of Nigeria and I would like your e-mail address.
Binary100100 said:
If you really thought that they were going to unlock the bootloader for us then I'm the prince of Nigeria and I would like your e-mail address.
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xD
Binary100100 said:
If you really thought that they were going to unlock the bootloader for us then I'm the prince of Nigeria and I would like your e-mail address.
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Best comment I've heard all year....
Magnifik81 said:
Someone should contact @geohot and beg him to work on this :3
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I already did and it's being worked on.
I'm a p1neapple dev team member in the iPhone world
0DegreeCod3r said:
I already did and it's being worked on.
I'm a p1neapple dev team member in the iPhone world
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Nice to hear that! I'm geting excited, yezz.
i hope they unlock the bootloader of my sony z3 with status no xD
Magnifik81 said:
Nice to hear that! I'm geting excited, yezz.
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but... we need to remember we still got accompany of dm verity
0DegreeCod3r said:
I already did and it's being worked on.
I'm a p1neapple dev team member in the iPhone world
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Isn't he working full time on his self driving car?
billydroid said:
Isn't he working full time on his self driving car?
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He is well aware we request his hand in this one buddy and he will get to us soon.
He will announce and release via Twitter so just look out for it.
Binary100100 said:
If you really thought that they were going to unlock the bootloader for us then I'm the prince of Nigeria and I would like your e-mail address.
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On an unrelated note, I damn near lost my **** at what you said...I originally came here from the Verizon S7E forums to see if you guys made any discoveries.
All I can say is that I may not have found anything useful in terms of progress for our devices. But I still leave satisfied. Thank you sir, thank you very much.
0DegreeCod3r said:
He is well aware we request his hand in this one buddy and he will get to us soon.
He will announce and release via Twitter so just look out for it.
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very encouraging! please inform us if you any good news!:fingers-crossed:
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What benefits does flashing this provide?
ktimque said:
What benefits does flashing this provide?
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None yet, it's the base for getting root, once we find a way to get it to stay rooted. It's mainly for those who upgraded to the 2nd iteration of the bootloader and can't downgrade to a rootable firmware (It's been confirmed by a few to work with the new Cyborg rom, albeit without root).
As of right now, unless you know why you need it, it's best to leave it alone.
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IF ANYONE GETS ROOT COULD YOU BE SO KIND AND POST IT HERE THANK YOU.
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ktimque said:
What benefits does flashing this provide?
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Well, I may have spoke too soon, you guys might want to take a look here in the Cyborg rom thread, seems they have a modified U2 bootloader they're flashing and retaining root. One member has volunteered to do a factory reset to see if it survives, but if so, v2 bootloader may now be rootable, or at least on the right track for public use.
IJoxer said:
None yet, it's the base for getting root, once we find a way to get it to stay rooted. It's mainly for those who upgraded to the 2nd iteration of the bootloader and can't downgrade to a rootable firmware (It's been confirmed by a few to work with the new Cyborg rom, albeit without root).
As of right now, unless you know why you need it, it's best to leave it alone.
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Thanks for answering that man. Haha. That's awesome that the guys got stuff moving that quickly. I knew that they had the files also,but, held off as long as they could until I came along.
But another useful feature I've noticed in this combo firmware is that there is an open unlock option now and mine sticks after reboot. I tried build roms, kernels,etc.. in the past that ended in ultimate failure. I'd like to start again. At the moment I just cruise the foreign forums grabbing whatever software I can find. I kinda have building only the tree down, not so much, as it's been years. I used to build Linux OS's a long time ago but forgot. I'll do my own research here if it, anybody wants to teach, I'm all ears, all eyes. Aloha
I've done some searching and I couldn't find any straight forward info about how to relock the bootloader and reencrypt my OP5.
I'll sell it but the buyer asked for it.
Can anyone shed some light and/or direct me to a thread I can rely on in order to do so?
RMarques said:
I've done some searching and I couldn't find any straight forward info about how to relock the bootloader and reencrypt my OP5.
I'll sell it but the buyer asked for it.
Can anyone shed some light and/or direct me to a thread I can rely on in order to do so?
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You should tell what is your current Rom and twrp and maybe what the customer wants
strongst said:
You should tell what is your current Rom and twrp and maybe what the customer wants
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Latest Oxygen OS OB, Latest BlueSpark TWRP. The customer wants it stock
RMarques said:
Latest Oxygen OS OB, Latest BlueSpark TWRP. The customer wants it stock
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if the customer wants it all stock, u can use that unbrick tool. it'll get ur device all stock again (I guess). do some research bout it before, as I'm still a newbie nd this may just seem a bad idea.
Good luck!✌?
zinou111 said:
if the customer wants it all stock, u can use that unbrick tool. it'll get ur device all stock again (I guess). do some research bout it before, as I'm still a newbie nd this may just seem a bad idea.
Good luck!✌?
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Perhaps it's worth a try... Thanks for chiming in man.
zinou111 said:
if the customer wants it all stock, u can use that unbrick tool. it'll get ur device all stock again (I guess). do some research bout it before, as I'm still a newbie nd this may just seem a bad idea.
Good luck!✌?
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RMarques said:
Perhaps it's worth a try... Thanks for chiming in man.
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You can have it even simpler(https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...bootloader-flash-twrp-t3704592/post79512430), but it's also a way.