[Q] How to Overclock Virtous Fusion v1.01. Slowww - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone know how to Overclock Virtous Fusion 3.0? Ive seen a thread to Overclock it but the down side is that the Camera and Camcorder does not function anymore. Help Please Thank you

sergdagreat said:
Does anyone know how to Overclock Virtous Fusion 3.0? Ive seen a thread to Overclock it but the down side is that the Camera and Camcorder does not function anymore. Help Please Thank you
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Did you wipe the handset prior to flashing. I'm coming from Cyanogen(mod) CM7 nightly and eViL's Sense 3.0 is as about as smooth as you can get...
What is slow for you?

Well, everything is smooth. But i can tell its a little bit more slower than MIUI with 1.2 ghz overclocked.

Like it takes forever or longer than usual to load my Gallery. Or open up an Application..i can tell a difference...but maybe thats just mine :?

sergdagreat said:
Like it takes forever or longer than usual to load my Gallery. Or open up an Application..i can tell a difference...but maybe thats just mine :?
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MiUi is AOSP based. It's a super lightweight UI. And you're overclocked. so it's going to be blazing fast.
I've said it before and i'm sure i'll say it again. Sense is a Sumo Wrestler in a room full of Super Models. It's a bloated OS, and that will slow things down naturally. Plus the fact that we are only running at 1.0Ghz will slow it down some more. If you've flashed everything and you have a decent amount of memory left. You are about as fast as one can get. I'm using the 3.0 Sense 1.0 and i'm pleased with it. It's not Cyanogen when it comes to speed but the smoothness has won me over. It's kinda like going from Porsche to Lincoln. the performance is lower but it make the ride alot more enjoyable.

neidlinger said:
MiUi is AOSP based. It's a super lightweight UI. And you're overclocked. so it's going to be blazing fast.
I've said it before and i'm sure i'll say it again. Sense is a Sumo Wrestler in a room full of Super Models. It's a bloated OS, and that will slow things down naturally. Plus the fact that we are only running at 1.0Ghz will slow it down some more. If you've flashed everything and you have a decent amount of memory left. You are about as fast as one can get. I'm using the 3.0 Sense 1.0 and i'm pleased with it. It's not Cyanogen when it comes to speed but the smoothness has won me over. It's kinda like going from Porsche to Lincoln. the performance is lower but it make the ride alot more enjoyable.
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LOL Seeing you stand up for a non-AOSP ROM is little weird. I feel like it's April Fool's or something. Anyway, to the OP, eventually a stable OC kernel will be made, but you'll lose some battery life. To me, the extra couple milliseconds to open apps is worth it. Let's face it, this is basically an Alpha port, and my goodness it's sweet already. Damn fine job they did. Other than the weird choppy application launcher, I couldn't be more pleased.

Okay I understand, thanks for your time! I appreciate it

sergdagreat said:
Okay I understand, thanks for your time! I appreciate it
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Dont forget 3.0 is meant for the 1GHz or 1.2GHz "Dual-core" phones, so it probably would be kinda slow on the MT4G, the 2nd gen dragon isn't very old though like the hummingbird.

TJBunch1228 said:
LOL Seeing you stand up for a non-AOSP ROM is little weird. I feel like it's April Fool's or something. Anyway, to the OP, eventually a stable OC kernel will be made, but you'll lose some battery life. To me, the extra couple milliseconds to open apps is worth it. Let's face it, this is basically an Alpha port, and my goodness it's sweet already. Damn fine job they did. Other than the weird choppy application launcher, I couldn't be more pleased.
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Oh in sure I'll be back to an AOSP ROM shortly. If they make an overclocking kernel for this ROM it'll be a strong contender.
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neidlinger said:
Oh in sure I'll be back to an AOSP ROM shortly. If they make an overclocking kernel for this ROM it'll be a strong contender.
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It's already pretty dang fast as it is, but yeah I can only imagine it with a faux-enhanced kernel. What can we do to get him back developing for the MT4G again?

Thats what I wanna be looking forward to...Faux needs to come out with one..soon

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Best current 2.1 ROM for G1?

Is there a working 2.1 ROM for the G1 which has Live Wallpapers with minimal battery drain and also something close to running at a fast speed with GPS/camera/maps/streetview etc all working?
At the moment I'm using SuperEclair V8.2 by XxKOLOHExX and it's fine and all, but the system slows down to the point of becoming near unusable when Live Wallpapers are on - not to mention the huge battery drain. Are there any ROMs which have such issues corrected?
Thanks in advance~
I'm using superD 1.6. I would change to 2.1 if there was something as fast as 1.6. I have yet to see an eclair rom to match the speed of donut.
It's been a while since I've used a 2.1 rom, but when I did, I didnt notice any battery loss from the live wallpapers. From what I know, live wallpapers doesn't even run when your phone is off/sleeping. LWP's turn back on when your phone comes back on, so it's not constantly running.
edit: That didnt really answer your question =)
Macmee said:
I'm using superD 1.6. I would change to 2.1 if there was something as fast as 1.6. I have yet to see an eclair rom to match the speed of donut.
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Hmm yeah that's true - I don't mind if it's not as fast as donut, just as long as it's not really really slow. The 2.1 ROM I was using had great features but it was just too laggy for me.
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edit: That didnt really answer your question =)
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Nah but now I know a little more. Thanks!
Any other 2.1 ROM suggestions?
hmmm... i used open eclair for a bit, had NO problems whatsoever... but i didnt use live wallpapers
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open eclair
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open eclair
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+1 for Open Eclair. I used it for my everyday rom for months with no problems. Recently switched back to SuperD out of boredom though.
Ohhh, cool. Looks like Open Eclair is the best way to go. Thanks!
latest open eclair or kingklick's ASOP 2.1 v1.9
Cannon 1.2 with 3d patch 2.0 is fully of fc.
SuperEclair v2.4 or v3.0 I suggest v2.4 with Extended Pack.
Kolehe beta 3.0 Rom. I bet theres no Eclair rom faster. flash and see for yourself. But no LWP's though. And you shouldnt be asking for a fast eclair that has minimal battery drain and complain about something slowing down and your using LWP's.
OpenEclair 1.3.0.1 is very feature-complete, stable and the "no 3D" version is fast enough for daily use. The 3D version though is slow. I've missed several phone calls because it takes that long for the phone to wake up and show caller ID.
The OpenEclair devs are promising improvements on that front in the upcoming 2.0 version, so I'd try that out when it becomes available.
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OpenEclair 1.3.0.1 is very feature-complete, stable and the "no 3D" version is fast enough for daily use. The 3D version though is slow. I've missed several phone calls because it takes that long for the phone to wake up and show caller ID.
The OpenEclair devs are promising improvements on that front in the upcoming 2.0 version, so I'd try that out when it becomes available.
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is there anything that does not work yet in OpenEclair, such as video capture, camera, SMS, etc?
I have an original MT3G (using Cyanogen right now) if that makes any difference.
Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it
rafaelrfq said:
Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it
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HI!
Awesome!!! I'm thinking about change phone because it's too laggy but this ROM makes all the diference! Thanks for the suggestion.
Now i only have two questions because i had Cyanogenmod and it has Power Control in the status bar like the samsung galaxy i think and i can also change the number of lines and collumns my desktop has, and chage the weight of the widgets.
Anyone knows what can i do to make that things work in this version?
THANKS!!!
rafaelrfq said:
Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it
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I can't wait for someone to reply to this thread in six months time and be all 'Dude, you gotta check out this honeycomb ROM, it runs amazing on the G1!!' and everyone else will be all 'lulwut?'.
Have had Super-E, but changed to BiffMod.
BiffMod is faster on my G1.
Greetings
Braaaaiiiiiings.... mmmmm... BRAIIIINS!!!
The one I have now is blazing fast, I use from cm4 to cm6 and this thing maybe best so far I have use, no fc and bs since I got it, fancy looks but still maintain good speed. But not sure about juice, my battery is extended one like 3.7 VDC 3000m monster battery so it still last me good 10hr+ even everything is on......
Waiting for good sense mod. ;-)
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Whats the fastest ROM currently available?

I'm running fresh 2.0d right now, but it seems to be a bit laggy..which ROM will give me the best performance/stability?
Thanks guys, love these forums
Um....hmm, can't really answer that one. I've tried like all of the roms out there, though I've never really had the same experience twice. I would just nandroid backup and spend time with all of them until you find the one that works best...
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Um....hmm, can't really answer that one. I've tried like all of the roms out there, though I've never really had the same experience twice. I would just nandroid backup and spend time with all of them until you find the one that works best...
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+1
reading responses here will only give you a watered down version of the actuals rom thread.
True, but I'm just looking for ROMs that people recommend/use daily that work well. I'm gonna try DamageR right now, I've already tried DamageControl and Flipz, so I'm gonna try some other ones and see how it goes.
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reading responses here will only give you a watered down version of the actuals rom thread.
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SEARCH AND READ...that's seems to be the answer to every single post being made today. It's all here in black and white. One search I recommend in all honesty is search the word:
"BENCHMARK" and read the thread started by flipzmode. It's a really good read.
I heard that CakeButt.ClownPenis 1.3 was really fast!!!! Check it out.
kbizzle said:
I heard that CakeButt.ClownPenis 1.3 was really fast!!!! Check it out.
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>.< why.....why??? Brain...toast..fizzle
kbizzle said:
I heard that CakeButt.ClownPenis 1.3 was really fast!!!! Check it out.
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I just spit coke all over the computer at school...thanks Kbizz.
RegawMOD is pretty good and the new FreshToast is also fast once it's setup right... I've tried just about every 2.1 rom available on this site and those are the ones I like the most.
I know it benchmarked the worst but as far as regular use RegawMOD 2.1 is the best and fastest running rom in my experience, that is also on the .29 kernel...
If you search for flipzmode benchmark you will see that all 2.1 rom all run about the same speed.
Other then flip/toast OC rom should run the fastest and its the only rom that will actually show a big difference in benchmarks.
Water it down like all the other "fast" roms and youll have one that is actually fast do to overclocked processor.
Its not made for everyone, and the camera isnt working yet (i have a feeling its not far away).
DanWalker said:
I just spit coke all over the computer at school...thanks Kbizz.
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Hey no problem!! Bout choked myself when I first read it.. My favorite rom name to date!! Wish I could cook.....
This is hardly a scientific analysis, but I have been running DC, flipz, and Regaw's roms interchangably for the past few weeks, and today switched from Sense to the Helix launcher.
The biggest difference in UI performance came from ditching Sense...it was actually a noticeable difference in responsiveness
That being said, I don't think you'll notice a whole lot of difference between the individual ROMs with Sense, so base your choice on what programs/features each ROM has versus which is fastest...in everyday use, you won't be able to tell a difference, IMHO.
So I got DarchVanilla, and I really like it, but the market doesn't have all my apps.. Is there a fix for this yet?? I really like this one, it's very responsive and close to lag free.
nebenezer said:
I know it benchmarked the worst but as far as regular use RegawMOD 2.1 is the best and fastest running rom in my experience, that is also on the .29 kernel...
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+1 The reason I chose RegawMOD is because it was basically a stripped down rom. It allowed me the room to load the programs that I wanted without having to strip useless (for me) programs from the rom. Very nice, stable.
I've found that using Ic3Rom with some apps removed from it, the old OpenGL restored on it, and Launcher2 installed, it's incredibly fast. It looks like AOSP, but has the current stability and function of a HTC ROM. Give it a shot if you haven't
I've used almost all of the roms available out there I thing fresh works better, if u don't want lag you would hve to use aosp
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+1 for RegawMOD being the best of the ones currently available that gives me what I want. I really like fresh 2.0d except that is was really laggy IMO too. I can't handle laggy, and RegawMOD doesn't appear to have any of that lag, and so far everything I need and want works just fine on it, including googlevoice, but I only use googlevoice for my voicemail, no idea about sending and receiving calls with it.
nlinux said:
+1 for RegawMOD being the best of the ones currently available that gives me what I want. I really like fresh 2.0d except that is was really laggy IMO too. I can't handle laggy, and RegawMOD doesn't appear to have any of that lag, and so far everything I need and want works just fine on it, including googlevoice, but I only use googlevoice for my voicemail, no idea about sending and receiving calls with it.
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+1
if i had to cast a vote, it would be a spin off regawmod(its the rom i built my current rom off) who is obviously the most direct desendant of damage control. that being said, i would personally love nothing more than to rock dcv1 all day(by FAR the most stable) ifffff-the trackball led wasnt a complete deal breaker for me.
buuut im giving up all the trackball dreams with the evo. goodbye, trackball...my dearest. trackball...
mountaindont said:
+1
if i had to cast a vote, it would be a spin off regawmod(its the rom i built my current rom off) who is obviously the most direct desendant of damage control. that being said, i would personally love nothing more than to rock dcv1 all day(by FAR the most stable) ifffff-the trackball led wasnt a complete deal breaker for me.
buuut im giving up all the trackball dreams with the evo. goodbye, trackball...my dearest. trackball...
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LOL i just dont see how you deem a rom unusable because of the track ball....are you a coal miner? are you always in the dark?

Fastest ROM?

In your own opinion, what is the fastest ROM you have used. And I'm not talking about MFLOPS, I mean no lag wise.
I have tested all ROMs and always go back to Aloysius v11 MAPS. Smooth, no fc's, great speed and it has sense.
By the way, this has nothing to do with dev, should be moved to general.
kaosfroyo is the fastest, but this thread belongs in general not development.
vantagejuan said:
kaosfroyo is the fastest, but this thread belongs in general not development.
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other, cause which ever rom I currently have loaded up is the fastest one i used lol.
Evil Eris Handddssss DOOOWWWNNNN
vantagejuan said:
kaosfroyo is the fastest, but this thread belongs in general not development.
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Can you give more on why its the fastest for you? I am not trying to call you out or anything but when I tested v23, yes, it was fast, but wasnt smooth. Are you just going my mflop scores you got? Screen movement, opening of apps and scrolling were not as smooth as Aloysius for me.
IMO, it is prob a more fair comparison to break up a survey like this into Which is fastest for: sense and sense-less type Rom's. Otherwise, its not drawing a fair comparison from the get-go, obviously the sense-less Rom's have a speed advantage right off.
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IMO, it is prob a more fair comparison to break up a survey like this into Which is fastest for: sense and sense-less type Rom's. Otherwise, its not drawing a fair comparison from the get-go, obviously the sense-less Rom's have a speed advantage right off.
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IMO, sense-based roms are smoother. They may not be faster in MFLOPS test, but over all smoothness...if that makes any sense. Like flow of scrolling through apps in app drawer...things like that.
But I do agree with you. Or just have people give full break down on why they like their current setup better than others.
droidkevlar said:
Can you give more on why its the fastest for you? I am not trying to call you out or anything but when I tested v23, yes, it was fast, but wasnt smooth. Are you just going my mflop scores you got? Screen movement, opening of apps and scrolling were not as smooth as Aloysius for me.
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not going based on any benchmarking, just from speed of use. i use my phone a lot in the car with pandora/navigation in combo and most other ROMs are a pain with navigation and anything else loaded. ADW launher that comes pre-loaded on it is pretty laggy with the stock settings, but i turn off all animations and set the scrolling speed to "0" (fastest) and it runs like fire. I haven't tried any ROM without any lag at all and KaosFroyo with ADW does lag a little, but the multi-tasking power is what sealed it for me.
Just posted this over on kaos thread yesterday but thought it might be good for comparison sake here.
This is my daily ROM now and is great. I am on v20 right now and am skeptical of updating for fear I might break this great setup. I used the mms fix here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=3015 and my mms is working flawlessly. I also uninstalled adw, and autokiller. I never set setcpu to anything after flashing the ROM so I don't think I am oc'd. I am getting consistent 5.0xx's on linpak and 422 on quadrant (which is better than stock droid and just under xperia). I have been unplugged with moderate usage today and I still have over 50% battery left after 12hrs, and only 2% cell standby. I would love to have my camera preview working but the camera does work and mms works so I will live. THANK YOU SO MUCH KAOS for your dedication and work in getting this going. Oh yeah and FYI, I use aNetShare to flawlessly tether via wifi my wife's netbook and or my Ipad. It works perfectly for those apps on iTunes that wont d/l under the 3g connection due to their 20mb limit per file. They ask you to d/l later via wifi. Stupid huh?
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And FYI I never plugged in until 12noon the next day, so that's 29hrs and I had 15% left when I plugged in. Never plugged in at night also.
Using Launcher Pro
16gb class6 card, no partition (Froyo builds don't need it)
stock battery
vantagejuan said:
not going based on any benchmarking, just from speed of use. i use my phone a lot in the car with pandora/navigation in combo and most other ROMs are a pain with navigation and anything else loaded. ADW launher that comes pre-loaded on it is pretty laggy with the stock settings, but i turn off all animations and set the scrolling speed to "0" (fastest) and it runs like fire. I haven't tried any ROM without any lag at all and KaosFroyo with ADW does lag a little, but the multi-tasking power is what sealed it for me.
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OK. I will have to try out these settings when I reflash it again tonight if I get bored. Thanks.
Other: CM6 port for the eris.
768mhz: 443 on quadrant...
I also notice no slow downs despite having things like surface dithering and all of the "aesthetics" turned up. Smooth scrolling is turned on with launcherpro (slows the phone down for prettier scrolling) and I can't even tell the difference speed-wise.
I am fairly confident that it's as fast as can be for now.
choke on D
Kaos FroYo is the fastest smoothest best on battery rom ever. so suk it.
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choke on D
Kaos FroYo is the fastest smoothest best on battery rom ever. so suk it.
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AW SNAP SON NO YOU DID NOT
>_> lol
CM6 FO LYFE =p
kaosfroyo is the fastest but erislightningbolt is a close second imo.
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kaosfroyo is the fastest but erislightningbolt is a close second imo.
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I agree. Not to mention the stock camera app works on CELB 2.8. The linpack and quadrant scores are very similar. I get way less FC's on celb. So imo, celb is faster. Linpack scores don't mean anything to me. Its the actual use that counts.
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Post your Quandrant Scores Here~!

Show em if you got em! Post your Nexus S Quadrant Scores!
wrenchmonkey26 said:
Show em if you got em! Post your Nexus S Quadrant Scores!
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I'm running Bionix NS1 with Trinity 1.3 (1.3ghz overclock)
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I'm running Bionix NS1 with Trinity 1.3 (1.3ghz overclock)
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Same here...
How are you guys liking bionix? whether it be trinity or not?
I really wanna install a custom ROM but im usually faithful to CM, have always been since my G1 so change is hard?
anything i should know before i make the jump?
sorry for OT
slowz3r said:
How are you guys liking bionix? whether it be trinity or not?
I really wanna install a custom ROM but im usually faithful to CM, have always been since my G1 so change is hard?
anything i should know before i make the jump?
sorry for OT
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Love it. I come from a Vibrant so got really used to their work. This rom looks just like stock but runs like a banshee. The only thing you really need to know is coming from stock or any other rom make sure you clear everything to insure you don't introduce any bugs. The Trinity kernel seems rock solid, but if you need to use bluetooth don't install until it gets repaired.
I'm really liking the bionix rom. very smooth and fast. however, I'm one of those guys that thinks quadrant scores don't mean ****.
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Love it. I come from a Vibrant so got really used to their work. This rom looks just like stock but runs like a banshee. The only thing you really need to know is coming from stock or any other rom make sure you clear everything to insure you don't introduce any bugs. The Trinity kernel seems rock solid, but if you need to use bluetooth don't install until it gets repaired.
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Hmmm, I'll wait and see, Cyanogen said CM7 nightlies will be coming soon so i may wait. Have yet to even touch the bootloader cuz ill be sad to lose some app data.
kyacrash said:
I'm really liking the bionix rom. very smooth and fast. however, I'm one of those guys that thinks quadrant scores don't mean ****.
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I am too.....kinda..
but it is true a phone can only feel so fast
slowz3r said:
How are you guys liking bionix? whether it be trinity or not?
I really wanna install a custom ROM but im usually faithful to CM, have always been since my G1 so change is hard?
anything i should know before i make the jump?
sorry for OT
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I love the Bionix NS1 ROM for the Nexus S. It's fast, very responsive and there is NO lag to report of. Paired with the Trinity Kernel, it's smokin fast. I haven't really seen much of a battery hit either, which is surprising. It's worth a shot. Go for it.
kyacrash said:
I'm really liking the bionix rom. very smooth and fast. however, I'm one of those guys that thinks quadrant scores don't mean ****.
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Some do, some don't. I've always used benchmarking on ym phones and gaming laptops. To each his own, I guess.
unofficial CM7 with the trinity13v2 kernel
simms22 said:
unofficial CM7 with the trinity13v2 kernel
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So CM7 runs pretty well with it?
anything broken besides bluetooth?
slowz3r said:
So CM7 runs pretty well with it?
anything broken besides bluetooth?
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runs great with cm7. bluetooth works, no problems with it on my phone.
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runs great with cm7. bluetooth works, no problems with it on my phone.
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I guess ill be rolling CM7, with Trinity when CM hits the nightly stage
loving bionix... 3500 baby...and 4G
How about battery life? Any significant drop?
Battery seems the same as it did at stock. I really haven't seen a huge drop as one might expect. As for quadrant scores I too believe feel is far more important than numbers and with my current setup (Bionix w/Trinity14bv3) this no longer "feels" like a phone. It feels more like a rocket covered in melted butter shooting across teflon.
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N1 running CM7 nightly #7. Keep in mind the kernel that comes with the N1 version of CM7 is more optimized than the NS version and is over clocked to 1113mHz. N1 also has no SIM card so non-wifi services.
NS running CM7 nightly #5.
Each phone benchmarked several times. Highest scores below.
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Productivity Index: 1238
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one more. this one is also my highest score yet, getting close to the 4000 mark

Sense 3.5/3.0 compared to 2.1

I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.
My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1
Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.
^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.
loonatik78 said:
Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?
I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.
I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!
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[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->
I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
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