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Hi,
So, according to the Pocket Now site (http://www.pocketnow.com/) and i quote;
As we start to see glimpses of the upcoming Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, new details are emerging about its capabilities in comparison to other WinMo devices. Here are three things about the device that you probably didn't know:
1. It has four LED indicators (two on each side) on the perimeter of the device to indicate system status, as seen below from the left side. The lights can blink in different colors like red, blue, and green.
2. It includes Handango's InHand software, which may bring an iPhone app-store like experience to the device.
3. It can take 640x480 VGA video - most devices max out at 352x288.
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I knew about the LED indicators as i had seen them in action in a video (and they are kinda cool considering how lame they sound at first), and neither was i interested about Handango's InHand software being on the device... But the main point is the video. 640 x 480 is pretty darn awesome!
Oh well... i don't know if this is true, but i just read somewhere: "X1a has the MSM7201a which restricts the higher quality video. The X1i uses the MSM7200 which doesn't have the restrictions. "
So, if the 640x480 resolution recording is true, it'll be on the X1i...
Some stuff from the whitepaper
There will be a US and European version of the phone. The US version has 850MHz UMTS while the Euro has the 900MHz band instead. The US version is also crippled in some features (mainly relating to video recording/playback - only records QVGA video at 24fps when Euro does it VGA at 30fps. Also doesn't decode H264) due to some issues with patents in the US.
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A really good video review. Slow in switching from portrait to landscape... but overall really great. (was added on the 15th, so highly unlikely that it has the increased RAM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ZL2-QEFoM
Plus it also mentions that the video recording is VGA
Insaneboy said:
Some stuff from the whitepaper
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Thank you for that... now i have to make sure to get the Euro version... not the US one...
msalmank said:
Thank you for that... now i have to make sure to get the Euro version... not the US one...
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Well, thanks to caeci11ius. I got it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406997
Keep in mind though that that might have changed since its quite old
Insaneboy said:
Well, thanks to caeci11ius. I got it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406997
Keep in mind though that that might have changed since its quite old
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Even still... thanks.
It is a bit old - especially since we now know that Opera is included in Xperia, wheras that whitepaper says it is not...
msalmank said:
A really good video review. Slow in switching from portrait to landscape... but overall really great. (was added on the 15th, so highly unlikely that it has the increased RAM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ZL2-QEFoM
Plus it also mentions that the video recording is VGA
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Here is another review where the panels switch way faster, they say it's a beta-version very similar to the retail one. Have they increased the RAM to make it faster? There are rumours that the RAM will be more than 256 MB.
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-hands-on-with-sony-ericsson-s-latest-xperia-x1-built
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Here is another review where the panels switch way faster, they say it's a beta-version very similar to the retail one. Have they incresed the RAM to make it faster? There are rumours that the RAM will be more than 256 MB.
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-hands-on-with-sony-ericsson-s-latest-xperia-x1-built
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Yes, they've increased it, it's now 340 or 384 mb.
Don't know which version is in the review, though, but the switching is very very fast.
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2. It includes Handango's InHand software, which may bring an iPhone app-store like experience to the device.
3. It can take 640x480 VGA video - most devices max out at 352x288.
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2. This will be the first to go if I cook my rom. I don't need stupid service like this in my rom.
3. w/ the current spec, it may take VGA video, but I really doubt about how many fps it can record.
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3. It can take 640x480 VGA video - most devices max out at 352x288.
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Most (or at least quite a few, especially with good cameras) non win-mo devices have more than 16 bit colour too!
How to confirm X1i
I am in the USa and don't want that crappy limitation of video recording and the lack of x264 support. How can I confirm a X1i vs. X1a if I order from one of the well known sites listed on this forum?
wtf no H264 decoding? does that mean it can still be accomplished by using third party apps?
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wtf no H264 decoding? does that mean it can still be accomplished by using third party apps?
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No its a hardware limitation. The qualcomm chipset that supports VGA H264 recording infringes on broadcomm patents. Therefore the US version of the chipset has this feature removed.
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Most (or at least quite a few, especially with good cameras) non win-mo devices have more than 16 bit colour too!
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Because above 16bit is kinda pointless and only really looks good on the spec sheet. It comes with a performance penalty that is not worth it. I'd rather a snappier device.
Read this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/09/07/462187.aspx
Video capture is supposed to be 640x480 30fps.
It is only the display colours that are limited. Play back on tv/pc should be fine.
I'm not sure why people think WM devices SHOULD have performance issues with this. Note the N95 has 24bit display and records great video at 30fps 640x480.
24bit colour makes a huge difference with some websites. WM 16bit devices for example look awful with the my-symbian banner. On the N95 it is like it should be. Pictures and video are also obviously much more natural. It is daft WM stick to 16bit displays with tiny physical cameras that can't take quality pictures regardless of the pixel count .. the qvga video of all WM devices except the X1 is also a joke .. I can't believe the pro and HD are still qvga.
There is no excuse for the X1 not to perform well with this. I'll be really upset if it doesn't.
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Video capture is supposed to be 640x480 30fps.
It is only the display colours that are limited. Play back on tv/pc should be fine.
I'm not sure why people think WM devices SHOULD have performance issues with this. Note the N95 has 24bit display and records great video at 30fps 640x480.
24bit colour makes a huge difference with some websites. WM 16bit devices for example look awful with the my-symbian banner. On the N95 it is like it should be. Pictures and video are also obviously much more natural. It is daft WM stick to 16bit displays with tiny physical cameras that can't take quality pictures regardless of the pixel count .. the qvga video of all WM devices except the X1 is also a joke .. I can't believe the pro and HD are still qvga.
There is no excuse for the X1 not to perform well with this. I'll be really upset if it doesn't.
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The camera does take 16 bit photos. The display only shows 16 bit. The US version however cannot record in VGA for the reason I mentioned above.
And its not WM that decides to put bad cameras on phones. Blame our device manufacturers for that.
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No its a hardware limitation. The qualcomm chipset that supports VGA H264 recording infringes on broadcomm patents. Therefore the US version of the chipset has this feature removed.
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So you're saying that using skyfire browser, one would NOT be able to decode youtube videos?
384 MB RAM confirmed
SE has confirmed that the retail version of X1 will have 384 MB of RAM.
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=fol...ows-and-explains-the-xperia-x1-to-journalists
Unfortunately it will NOT have an accelerometer though.
Support for Flash Lite 3.0 will not be included initially, but since it will have Opera Mobile 9.5 that will be no problem, since Opera 9.5 includes the Flash 3.0 player - http://www.interpreting-tech.com/bemobile/?p=107
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Support for Flash Lite 3.0 will not be included initially, but since it will have Opera Mobile 9.5 that will be no problem, since Opera 9.5 includes the Flash 3.0 player - http://www.interpreting-tech.com/bemobile/?p=107
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Be not so sure about that. Currently it's not sure if the Opera version for the Xperia X1 will include flash support though it's possible of course.
hi,
is there a way to improve the quality of video recordings (vga) of my x1? Ive got also an nokia 5800 and the recordings of these phone are much better (they have less fragments and barley no buckings)...
The nokia has just 369MHz and 128 Ram, the X1 528 and 256 Ram there must be a way to get better video recording on the x1!!!
im with you!
If only we can up the bit rate a bit (It's not mpeg 4 so you need higher bitrate for that resolution video.....)
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but then do You believe that xperia is powerful enough for higher bitrates?
Maybe old Ateksoft CoolCamera works on Xperia? It records with MJPEG (Less CPU power needed).
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but then do You believe that xperia is powerful enough for higher bitrates?
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I'm sure it can! If all other phones with slower procesors can do it, why not xperia?
QUOTE: The nokia has just 369MHz and 128 Ram, the X1 528 and 256 Ram there must be a way to get better video recording on the x1!!!
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Maybe old Ateksoft CoolCamera works on Xperia? It records with MJPEG (Less CPU power needed).
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Ive tried 1.15 wont work...
Perhaps SE has improved the camera hardware...? I have a X1i 08W51 and 09W03 and the difference in picture and video rec. is immediately clear! Both have now the R3AA and the new(!) R3AA camera w/autoflash and GPS!
How do I check when my X1 was made?
Yesterday night I tried to recorde with the flash light, Im so disappointed about that Sony calls this a flash, you cant take a picture with this thing at night, its nothing really nothing. I compered it with my nokia 5800, tha flash light of it is 3-4 brighter...
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Perhaps SE has improved the camera hardware...? I have a X1i 08W51 and 09W03 and the difference in picture and video rec. is immediately clear
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Very interesting.. maybe you can upload some files to let us see and compare the quality?
I have here a 08W47 tomorrow Ill recieve a 09W04 and 09W16 then Ill recorde a video for comparison...
Greets
Just to start a discussion.
everyone knows N1 is capable of doing video recording on 720p.
I am just wondering, why google does not officially release such capability? Or do you think they just want user to root it and do whatever they want? Desire has it anyway.
I am so looking forward to an official 720p, if it ever happens.
Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.
evilkorn said:
Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.
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Because of the lens?
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Because of the lens?
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ok, that too. ;-)
it does a really nice job @ 800xwhatever, but 720p is just too much. it starts having artifacts if there is any motion at all, and any panning/tilting turns the picture terrible. just what i've experienced.
using the latest CM6 nightly i have yet to come across any issues with it, i actually like it, but yea compare it to a real HD camera (not the Evo) but a handheld camera the 720p is crap
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using the latest CM6 nightly i have yet to come across any issues with it, i actually like it, but yea compare it to a real HD camera (not the Evo) but a handheld camera the 720p is crap
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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Because of the bit rate and frame rate. It's not good enough to do it over 24 FPS consistently.
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Well rooted N1s and desires are able to do it. Better than what HTC gave in the official froyo update too.
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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I don't think it's the sensor. I think it has to do with how fast the phone can take data from that sensor and do something with it. It can't keep up with the camera flooding it with data at 24 FPS at 720p.
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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megapixel sensor size doesn't equate to the quality of a camera.
The hardware in the iphone4 is better than that of the nexus one.
JCopernicus said:
megapixel sensor size doesn't equate to the quality of a camera.
The hardware in the iphone4 is better than that of the nexus one.
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Yeah I knew that. I didn't know if the iPhone's hardware was better. I didn't think it was.
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It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you
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It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you
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Aka, see Google Nexus One.
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Stea1thmode said:
It's all about politics, they don't want to sell you a phone that can do everything, they want you to spend more money on the next best thing. That's the consumer market for you
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A bit better (and closer to the truth) explanation would be:
Google have X engineering "horsepower" that can only do Y stuff in a given amount of time. They can:
1) Spend more time upgrading their DEVELOPER phone capabilities (which was never intended to be anything but developer phone) for the sake of the VERY FEW customers that bought this phone while it was in commercial stage (Nexus owners are a tiny percentage of Android device owners),
2) Spend more time enhancing Android system for ALL the current and future customers of ALL phone manufacturers.
Guess which one they would prefer? Not a hard guess, right?
Yes, unfortunately, it's not the one you would prefer.
The same goes for "why not improved graphics driver", "why not improved N support", etc.
I 2nd that.I think that Google engineers are more into improving android os as a whole.
OP,didn't you notice how many updates and radios the desire has compared to ours?
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The iphone4 does 720p and movement really, really well, i was shocked, and admittedly a little jealous. When it is said that the Iphone4's "hardware" is better, is it that the I4's hardware has better quality, or does it just have better specs? In other words, the I4 doesnt have a full ghz processor right? But is it just much better quality? I dont really know what im talking about im just very interested in 720/HD recording on smartphones, definitely a prerequisite going forward...thanks
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The iphone4 does 720p and movement really, really well, i was shocked, and admittedly a little jealous. When it is said that the Iphone4's "hardware" is better, is it that the I4's hardware has better quality, or does it just have better specs? In other words, the I4 doesnt have a full ghz processor right? But is it just much better quality? I dont really know what im talking about im just very interested in 720/HD recording on smartphones, definitely a prerequisite going forward...thanks
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yeah, even when I tested the iPhone 2G camera that has 2MP sensor, it's photo quality was alot better than my Nexus. just the resolution is bigger in Nexus. and iPhone 4 has a Apple A4 1 GHZ processor, that equals almost the same CPU on Nexus but with different GPU on iPhone (PowerVR SGX). it just does it really really well.
The CPU and its main frequency has exactly nothing to do w/ video encoding, most probably. Encoding/decoding in small-scale devices is usually implemented by separate subsystems (packaged with the CPU - that's why they call it SoC).
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The CPU and its main frequency has exactly nothing to do w/ video encoding, most probably. Encoding/decoding in small-scale devices is usually implemented by separate subsystems (packaged with the CPU - that's why they call it SoC).
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i see, so Apple spent a good deal of efforts to specifically make the camera so good...It wasnt just that they made the phone well, and in turn that solid hardware allowed for good camera quality.
I dont even use the N1 video recorder very often but for some reason I really want better capabilities, maybe if I did have much higher fps and resolution I would use it a lot. Currently the fps are really poor, any movement is a blur regardless of the amount of light. And of course 480 is quite dated. But the phone is otherwise top notch, and the 5mp camera is really solid and i use it a lot, under varied conditions.
I imagine the internal memory vs. whatever SD card a normal consumer would get might also play a part. The Android devices that do have 720p officially all have internal memory ( >1GB ), right? So the manufacturers can control the quality of memory used. I would think that Google/HTC would get lots more complaints from the general population who got bargain basement cards from the back of a truck and expected everything to perform flawlessly. I also agree with above points about the hardware and subsystems. So many variables. But that's also why I like the Android platform. You have a choice (and not just 16GB vs. 32GB locked to one carrier with a contract).
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Yeah. But that's obvious. You spend probably around 300 for a good 720p camera ya know?
I hate to bring it up, but why can the iPhone 4 handle HD video so well? It has a 5MP sensor just like the N1. Any ideas? Because I know this sensor could handle it if the iPhone's could. Am I wrong?
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IF I remember correctly, Charansingh said the Iphone achieved 720p by duplicating the image thereby increasing fps to achieve 720p...or something like that. The amount of available light controls the phones ability to reach higher fps. I've gotten 26fps outdoors in bright light. The N1 is set to a max of 30fps, but will only do 1/2 of that indoors. fwiw
We all know that certain hardware nothing but gimmicks.
Htc did well with megapixel race in my point of wiev more megapixel need bigger sensor please let me know if ım wrong.
but htc went with another gimmick 1080p come on what is the difference with 720p hich is 312 ppi more than our eyes can notice it.
HTC ONE X had best display 2012 why didnt HTC just make that screen even better instead they went more resolution i just got to chance to compare both screens about half an hour ago htc one x brighter contrast and wieving angles same so now we have dimmer screen uses more energy plus more work on GPU. its like degrading.
But this one goes up to 11. That's one more.
compact_bijou said:
But this one goes up to 11. That's one more.
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what do you mean?
cihanleanne said:
what do you mean?
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Well, no matter how high any other one can go, this one has always got one more.
This one goes to 11
cihanleanne said:
what do you mean?
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Greatful Dead
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Beats.
That is all.
cihanleanne said:
We all know that certain hardware nothing but gimmicks.
Htc did well with megapixel race in my point of wiev more megapixel need bigger sensor please let me know if ım wrong.
but htc went with another gimmick 1080p come on what is the difference with 720p hich is 312 ppi more than our eyes can notice it.
HTC ONE X had best display 2012 why didnt HTC just make that screen even better instead they went more resolution i just got to chance to compare both screens about half an hour ago htc one x brighter contrast and wieving angles same so now we have dimmer screen uses more energy plus more work on GPU. its like degrading.
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To the naked eye there is no difference between 720 and 1080
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this level of english, comprehend i cannot
ShapesBlue said:
To the naked eye there is no difference between 720 and 1080
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thats my point plus uses more juice it would been better if they even made htc one x screen better
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To the naked eye there is no difference between 720 and 1080
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i can defo see that the screen on the one is much sharper than on the one x or one x plus.
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thats my point plus uses more juice it would been better if they even made htc one x screen better
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that makes more sense.
ok, look around. droid dna 1080p , lg optimus g pro 1080p, s4 1080p, new motorola x's 1080p,
so if htc one = 720p, who would buy it? explain.
(100marks)
conantroutman said:
Beats.
That is all.
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^this.. biggest gimmick ever .. and they put that logo in the back to fool people.. touche
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Chillz88 said:
^this.. biggest gimmick ever .. and they put that logo in the back to fool people.. touche
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But on many reviews, Beats Audio was marked as an advantage of HTC One X Or One X sound is superior than S3 because of Beats Audio
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But this one goes up to 11. That's one more.
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Why don't you just make ten the loudest?
This one goes to eleven.
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r89HTC said:
i can defo see that the screen on the one is much sharper than on the one x or one x plus.
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And it might have taken the fabrication facilities 'til now to make 1080p displays with an
acceptable level of manufacturing yield like with the problems of large AMOLED screens.
Calling innovation a gimmick is retarded.
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And it might have taken the fabrication facilities 'til now to make 1080p displays with an
acceptable level of manufacturing yield like with the problems of large AMOLED screens.
Calling innovation a gimmick is retarded.
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innivation? am i being retardat? hey what benefit do you get out of it do you see any difference between 720p to 1080p its a gimmick going 720p wasnt cos you can tell different but 720p to 1080p on 4.7 inch screen no unless you are usuing magnefind glass
In theory you shouldn't really see a different at 720p with 300ppi+ to 1080p screens. But there really is a different, you'll see when you put the HTC One X and HTC One next to each other, the HTC One is just sharper, especially in movies and pictures and overall the whole system. Even review sites have suggested it's a lot better and they thought '1080p' screen was useless and a waste of battery until 1080p screen started coming out.
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that makes more sense.
ok, look around. droid dna 1080p , lg optimus g pro 1080p, s4 1080p, new motorola x's 1080p,
so if htc one = 720p, who would buy it? explain.
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Hi of course i would Samsung galaxy s4 has 13 magapixel Htc one has 4 and i like the idea i dont care about exesive numbers which the case 1080p cos i have seen htc one x look brighter look superior actually if they even improved that screen would be much better.
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In theory you shouldn't really see a different at 720p with 300ppi+ to 1080p screens. But there really is a different, you'll see when you put the HTC One X and HTC One next to each other, the HTC One is just sharper, especially in movies and pictures and overall the whole system. Even review sites have suggested it's a lot better and they thought '1080p' screen was useless and a waste of battery until 1080p screen started coming out.
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i have compared both devices and i couldnt tell any difference. actually one x looked brighter
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i have compared both devices and i couldnt tell any difference. actually one x looked brighter
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Seems like you're here to call new stuff a gimmick, to argue for lack of innovation, poorer screens and to complain that HTC don't make phones to suit only you.
That is retarded.
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LOL, no Spinal Tap.
Is it only me who thinks that all the videos online show the Z5 premium 4K screen at 1080p resolution ? For such a high pixel density the icons and menu should be much smaller and app list in the menu should be more than 4x5 .
I found a video showing the Z5 Premium running at a different resolution but much slower. I must admit I don't understand spanish but anyone can watch the end where things get really laggy ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYn76ywh4tg
Old software running at 300 dpi. Will not be present in the finalized product
Have to admit that when I hear 4K I expect the resolution to be similar to the one in the video. It makes a huge difference and looks much better.
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Old software running at 300 dpi. Will not be present in the finalized product
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You look like expert of Sony and you have many xperia mobiles . I had one in the past, the Ultra T2 and although I liked everything about it that time, but sold it after 1 week becuse the low call voice in the loud speakers, althoigh the music was fine . I found out on the net, that may eb all Sony experia has this issue, may be thier standard.
Can you tell me if all the xperia you used has the same low call voice. I am thinking of buying C4 or may be the z5 , but I am afraid to have the same issue.
Thanks
Premium will not use 4k all the time, only when needed.
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You look like expert of Sony and you have many xperia mobiles . I had one in the past, the Ultra T2 and although I liked everything about it that time, but sold it after 1 week becuse the low call voice in the loud speakers, althoigh the music was fine . I found out on the net, that may eb all Sony experia has this issue, may be thier standard.
Can you tell me if all the xperia you used has the same low call voice. I am thinking of buying C4 or may be the z5 , but I am afraid to have the same issue.
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Hi, I only have used flagship devices from Sony and all have excellent call voice quality. If you have the cash fro the Z5 definitely go for the Z5.
mele80 said:
Premium will not use 4k all the time, only when needed.
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That means it will use 4K 1% of the time... Seriously I hope this is some kind of joke from Sony... When I hear 4K I expect browsing and reading at 4K.
Also more room for more icons on the home screen.... IMO it makes a lot more sense to downscale games etc.. to HD and keep the resolution at 4K
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/of-course-the-z5-premium-doesnt-run-in-4k-all-the-time-r1515/
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http://www.modaco.com/news/android/of-course-the-z5-premium-doesnt-run-in-4k-all-the-time-r1515/
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I'll wait for the official release. If that's really the case I'll go for a Z5. There is no point in paying $200 more for something I won't be using.
Xeon said:
I'll wait for the official release. If that's really the case I'll go for a Z5. There is no point in paying $200 more for something I won't be using.
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You get a larger battery and screen though
It's exactly like macbook pro retinas... you still have the desktop space of the standard resolution, yet much crispier
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-explains-xperia-z5-premium-4k-642067/
“Xperia Z5 Premium features a 4K display with a resolution of 3840×2160 pixels based on SID Standard and enables all video and image content to be enjoyed in 4K resolution. All other content is displayed at 1080P or lower resolution in order to optimise the performance and battery stamina for this device, ensuring you can enjoy the 4K resolution when you need it most.“
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Almost no point of the Z5 Premium in that case, as my old laptop certainly isn't going to render it, nor is my 2010 spec plasma
Once you root it and have xposed installed I'm sure you can set a per app DPI. I can't use a phone if it doesn't have root (won't connect to headunit) and exposed makes everything so much better.
Xeon said:
That means it will use 4K 1% of the time... Seriously I hope this is some kind of joke from Sony... When I hear 4K I expect browsing and reading at 4K.
Also more room for more icons on the home screen.... IMO it makes a lot more sense to downscale games etc.. to HD and keep the resolution at 4K
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Even if that's the case, you are never going to browse and read at more than 480p. I've seen almost none apps for "simple" things going higher than 480p... Neither Chrome for browsing, nor Play Books for reading...for example!
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I Like it
it s smart management for speed & power
I don need 4K rendering when watching HD clips So It s better that phone switch to FHD/HD rendering
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Xeon said:
That means it will use 4K 1% of the time... Seriously I hope this is some kind of joke from Sony... When I hear 4K I expect browsing and reading at 4K.
Also more room for more icons on the home screen.... IMO it makes a lot more sense to downscale games etc.. to HD and keep the resolution at 4K
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Lol u want to browse and read in 4K, but anything above 1080p is nearly undetectable for humans eye
4K will become standardised very soon, as VR goggles are getting more and more popular.
Now, on 1080p, when using VR goggles, the screen does get separated into two images. Thus screen resolution you see thru the glasses be like 400x800 or so..
Imagine, when using 4K... VR goggles will still display 2K.. Which is more pixels than our 1080p res.
Take a magnifier and look at a 1080p screen, count the pixels and multiply that by 2. That's the resolution you'll see thru VR goggles when using a 4k display, and that's exactly what it's designed and meant for.
Sooner or later, Sony will come up with their very own VR goggles like Samsung with VR gear.
langeveld024 said:
Lol u want to browse and read in 4K, but anything above 1080p is nearly undetectable for humans eye
4K will become standardised very soon, as VR goggles are getting more and more popular.
Now, on 1080p, when using VR goggles, the screen does get separated into two images. Thus screen resolution you see thru the glasses be like 400x800 or so..
Imagine, when using 4K... VR goggles will still display 2K.. Which is more pixels than our 1080p res.
Take a magnifier and look at a 1080p screen, count the pixels and multiply that by 2. That's the resolution you'll see thru VR goggles when using a 4k display, and that's exactly what it's designed and meant for.
Sooner or later, Sony will come up with their very own VR goggles like Samsung with VR gear.
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I dont really understand what's with the "undetectable thing " people keep repeating.
If you browse at 4K, text is much smaller and the content displayed is much more than 1080p . I don't have to scroll 2 pages to see everything where I can see it in only one @4K.
When you buy bigger PC screen you get more space on your desktop ( icons / files etc.. ) because resolution gets higher not because the screen gets bigger.
Whether I can see the pixel or not is my least concern.
Xeon said:
I dont really understand what's with the "undetectable thing " people keep repeating.
If you browse at 4K, text is much smaller and the content displayed is much more than 1080p . I don't have to scroll 2 pages to see everything where I can see it in only one @4K.
When you buy bigger PC screen you get more space on your desktop ( icons / files etc.. ) because resolution gets higher not because the screen gets bigger.
Whether I can see the pixel or not is my least concern.
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That's not about resolution.
Resolution is about pixels.
How things appear on the screen is about layout / DPI.
U can easily spoof ur DPI in build.prop or with an xposed module, even per-app.
Just Google a bit and you'll find out
langeveld024 said:
That's not about resolution.
Resolution is about pixels.
How things appear on the screen is about layout / DPI.
U can easily spoof ur DPI in build.prop or with an xposed module, even per-app.
Just Google a bit and you'll find out
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Higher DPI means higher resolution....
In the first video I posted the dpi was increased as u can see in the end of the video the device becomes very laggy during transition.
bottom line, xperia can't handle 4K resolution.
Xeon said:
Higher DPI means higher resolution....
In the first video I posted the dpi was increased as u can see in the end of the video the device becomes very laggy during transition.
bottom line, xperia can't handle 4K resolution.
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Cool! So if I just put higher DPI, and everything looks smaller on my Z, that means I suddenly have 4K lol
Believe what u want to believe Bro :thumbup: