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Marshmallow and Always-On 4K

Since Marshmallow supports 4K display at all times on the home screen, etc., it seems that this phone could do 4K all the time.
I've read that some believe they won't even turn it on for Marshmallow because if the CPU/battery drain.
Two questions:
1. Does anyone agree or disagree with this? Maybe it will at least be a setting (in developer options)?
2. If they don't turn this on for Marshmallow and it runs like Lollipop on "Full HD", could a custom ROM enable permanent 4K? Or rooting? Would this even be possible?
Thanks!

Bet that you will return to FHD mode when you look at the battery anyway. Plus most icon resources inside apk will almost certainly stick to xxhdpi (around 480dpi) which won't bring any advantage on 4k screen.

I don't care about battery life. Anyway, does anyone have any answers/guesses to my questions?
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Well to answer your questions :
1. I disagree as per my answer, it is just not viable for the battery life and plus iirc when i read marshmallow changelog, it only states that it supports 4k but doesn't say anything about native resolution and apk resource resolution addition, the changelog only specifies that it is natively supported but in an upscaled way.
2. If anything, nothing is impossible. But not everything is viable.

Doing QHD at all times and 4K during media is fine by me.
Do it Sony.

I hope via root is possible.
About battery life, I have nice battery packs that maintain the charge for the whole day .....and I suggest any intense user of smartphones having one o more too

Marshmellow comes with native 4k support which will allow developers to turn on 4k on demand.
I don't see a reason to have the the 4k display always on unless its for gaming/movies/viewing high res pics.

MajorAly said:
Doing QHD at all times and 4K during media is fine by me.
Do it Sony.
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I agree the screen should be 2k and 4k when needed.
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Try it
try this if it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/changing-resolution-default-to-2k-root-t3282319

What if Sony can let the user decide which resolution their phones wanna run.
Like windows in a separate setting under display user get the ability to select the resolution.
People who don't care 4K they can use FHD and if they like 2K they can have 2K , if not 4K all the time.
But by default gallery and movie apps upscale the content to 4K. I think if they can pull that off it'd be so cool.

Yeah, should be offer 2 modes in display setting, quality and battery life.

4k is already possible! thanks to the guide from the previous post lol, I was able to take a screenshot of my phone running in 4k using a different screenshot app
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lag?
now gpu is pushing four K resolution, did u noticed any lag?
also did anyone try xperia z five in trinus VR.its and app which allows you to stream PC games to mobile for VR

1dave said:
4k is already possible! thanks to the guide from the previous post lol, I was able to take a screenshot of my phone running in 4k using a different screenshot app
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But the important one is the dpi though. The 3840x2160 means it's physical pixel count isn't it? But when you look at the density it's obvious that it's still 1920x1080. Cmiiw though.

Are there third party apps that run in 4k mode?
Netflix? Ultraflix? Riptide gp all run in 4k on my shield tv

As hansip87 said.
Also running 4k all the time will increase the phone warmth in hand - try it yourself while watching a 4k movie for an 1h30min
I think it's great that it's possible to run at 2k and 4k all the time but for me it's Battery life others is screen quality /viewing pleasure

After performing the wm size and wm density as shown in the thread fesar posted earlier in this thread, I stumbled upon a few problems that persisted even after restoring to default.
You can read more about my rather bad experiences in the mentioned thread.

hansip87 said:
But the important one is the dpi though. The 3840x2160 means it's physical pixel count isn't it? But when you look at the density it's obvious that it's still 1920x1080. Cmiiw though.
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Hey which app did you use to take the screenshot with when at higher dpi? Thanks

I changed the resolution to 2K ,and changed it back after half a day ,cannot bear the battery drain

Get FULL HD Resolution 1080x1920 on Sony Xperia XA1

Hello everyone!
You can enjoy FullHD resolution in Xperia XA1/XA easily by follow the video. It is so amazing and you can view Youtube video with Full HD resolution n your XA1 phone after do it. If you have any questions please comment . I will respond as soon as possible.
You can revert back any time by change to the original resolution in command. :highfive: I just compare Antutu benchmark after set the resolution to 1080p :victory:: https://youtu.be/HslDJ8NB6Jg
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3. Command : adb shell wm size 1080x1920
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Does the screen look noticibly sharper after this?
Just wondering if worth the effort/trade off in battery life

I must say that I'm a bit skeptical about this. The screen has a specific number of pixels, in the XA1 case 720 x 1280, and it is not possible to increase with setting a value in Android. Lowering the value is possible since then the software can count several pixels as one (but usually it does not look that good).
In the GSMarena review they use a microscope to look at the pixels and sure they don't count them but I think after looking at so many screens they would have notice if the pixels was so small that the screen was a 1080 x 1920 screen instead.

If you saw my old phone, you too would be happy with the current resolution.
Why pump it up. Uses your battery quicker

Very Eager to tryit out but worried about battery life. Is it worth??

Strong post
thanks for your help , I have been bothered by the xa1 's low ppi for a long time:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Does this only change the dpi? As stated above you can't add pixels to a screen that's 720p
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hpsauce37 said:
Does the screen look noticibly sharper after this?
Just wondering if worth the effort/trade off in battery life
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Depend on your eyes bro ^^. battery life is not affect too much. but you can view youtube in FullHD

harlz said:
Does this only change the dpi? As stated above you can't add pixels to a screen that's 720p
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We do it for more space on screen and you can view Youtube on Full HD. why you do not try and can revert back anytime

kirkx10 said:
I must say that I'm a bit skeptical about this. The screen has a specific number of pixels, in the XA1 case 720 x 1280, and it is not possible to increase with setting a value in Android. Lowering the value is possible since then the software can count several pixels as one (but usually it does not look that good).
In the GSMarena review they use a microscope to look at the pixels and sure they don't count them but I think after looking at so many screens they would have notice if the pixels was so small that the screen was a 1080 x 1920 screen instead.
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Yes you r right. but the point is you can view youtube with FullHD setting. and you will get more space, also UI like tablet for some app if you want

I use these settings :
adb shell wm size 480x850
adb shell wm density 240
in settings, display, use the smallest size of font.
you can use too but it's blur :
adb shell wm size 360x640
adb shell wm density 180

I tried this out and my batterylive isnt affected. But I'm not able to take a screenshot anymore

1. Probably not the best idea to publish a video with your pirated movies and MILF porn clearly visible
2. How could this be possibly be... possible? Unless Sony has built in a 1080 display and lowered the resolution via software (why would they?!), I call complete bull****.
What you're changing is what the phone tells YT it is capable of. So you're using more data and also more battery for no visual improvement whatsoever. It just doesn't have more pixels.

dancress said:
1. Probably not the best idea to publish a video with your pirated movies and MILF porn clearly visible
2. How could this be possibly be... possible? Unless Sony has built in a 1080 display and lowered the resolution via software (why would they?!), I call complete bull****.
What you're changing is what the phone tells YT it is capable of. So you're using more data and also more battery for no visual improvement whatsoever. It just doesn't have more pixels.
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And you are not able to take Screenshots anymore

In case of Youtube it helps, because videos are encoded with very low quality to save space and bandwidth.
It always help to use higher resolution of video than screen has resolution anyway. I do this on ma PC for couple of years now.
On phone screen is so small it makes little but still noticeable difference, but i don't care about it, i want battery life especially when I watch YT while travelling.
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I've checked the screen with good old cardboard.
It is 720p and android probably is downsampling 1080p to it if You change the resolution.
So in conclusion other than 1080p in Youtube You only waste Your battery life.
If You want 1080p in Youtube, get modded app.
Anyway it is interesting gimmick, but with no real purpose.

4K screen - Who really has noticed a difference?

I came from a Samsung s6 Edge+ and it had a pretty good screen with 518ppi
Sony made a big deal about the 4k screen. But do you really notice it?
When i first got it a few days ago. I was not sure what to expect. Would i notice it or not, because it's not always in 4k.
Theres a lot of people out there saying it's a gimmick and you wont notice it because your eyes cannot see the pixels to notice it.
Well it was the first thing i noticed. The fact i couldn't see any sharp edges on the text. Everything was so smooth and fluid. Even though the pixels on my edge+ are small, and i put it side to side and although its minimal, but i could notice the difference.
I had a friend show me a video on youtube today, it was a good quality video ect. Then i showed him a video about our topic, not talking about the phone. As soon as he watched the video, he right away commented on the screen how it looked so realistic and smooth.
So In my opinion, Yes i can see the difference with a 4k screen. It's not a gimmick. What are your thoughts?

Sure I can see it, problem is that when you've seen the 4k content you can actually notice going back to full hd...

It's the text on the screen most especially ?, it was soooo clean I had to double check on my ex (the OP3T). The difference can clearly been seen. It's a very good display
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The display is amazing

I used ADB to set the display to be 4K all the time. Yes there is a difference, but unless you use really small display scaling/text, it won't be very evident. Still, this is probably one of the sharpest displays available to consumers in the world. You will never see a jagged edge.

pauly92 said:
I came from a Samsung s6 Edge+ and it had a pretty good screen with 518ppi
Sony made a big deal about the 4k screen. But do you really notice it?
When i first got it a few days ago. I was not sure what to expect. Would i notice it or not, because it's not always in 4k.
Theres a lot of people out there saying it's a gimmick and you wont notice it because your eyes cannot see the pixels to notice it.
So In my opinion, Yes i can see the difference with a 4k screen. It's not a gimmick. What are your thoughts?
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You need to smoke something and you'll see the difference haha. It's more or a gimmick and I wished there was more 4k content. But the experience is new and strange. I feel the urge to stick my eyes on the screen to see more details, or use a magnifying glass. But for recreational purposes, it's a cool thing. A neat trick.

Yeah there's a difference. My way of explaining it, the experience is surreal. You don't really notice it, but your brain kinda do. I don't know how to really explain this. When I enabled the 4K using adb, I can see that the display is so great, like a printed paper as per said by Erica Griffin - she's very nitpicky when it comes to display. So when this display got an approval from her, it's a big thing.
Watch this video on YouTube if you haven't: Peru 8K.
What I can tell is my head hurts after watching it lol. Now I really hope I can easily move to Peru! Your brain got confused, it knows that what you see on the screen is not real, but the display image reproduction is so damn real that it's like looking through a window rather than a display. When your little friendly brain got confused, you'll get headache. Need some time to getbused to it. So for me, yes it is noticable.
I actually prefer this over Samsung's OLED display. This display kinda produce more colour, it's vibrant but still kind on the eyes. My eyes hurt and get tired after watching something on the S8. With a display this good, I don't even notice this phone's large bezels!

I don't know guys, I'm still on the fence and can't really tell. Maybe it's my eyes lol, or my super high expectations.

I tried watching Peru 8k in YouTube but it kept buffering. Bummer. It looked amazing but experience limited by size of screen.
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Sleepisme said:
Yeah there's a difference. My way of explaining it, the experience is surreal. You don't really notice it, but your brain kinda do. I don't know how to really explain this. When I enabled the 4K using adb, I can see that the display is so great, like a printed paper as per said by Erica Griffin - she's very nitpicky when it comes to display. So when this display got an approval from her, it's a big thing.
Watch this video on YouTube if you haven't: Peru 8K.
What I can tell is my head hurts after watching it lol. Now I really hope I can easily move to Peru! Your brain got confused, it knows that what you see on the screen is not real, but the display image reproduction is so damn real that it's like looking through a window rather than a display. When your little friendly brain got confused, you'll get headache. Need some time to getbused to it. So for me, yes it is noticable.
I actually prefer this over Samsung's OLED display. This display kinda produce more colour, it's vibrant but still kind on the eyes. My eyes hurt and get tired after watching something on the S8. With a display this good, I don't even notice this phone's large bezels!
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Lol I saw this video some time ago and was wowed[emoji23]....
Amazon prime video finally showed a video in 4k HDR and I was left in Wonderland. I could tell the difference in quality right away because some parts other video were in full HD before snapping into 4k mode.
After the adb switch to 4k, the most noticeable difference is how everything's SUPER CLEAR. It's the exact same thing that happened to me when I switched my pc monitor from FHD TO 4K. The text and other elements on the screen are soo defined.
I left it in 4k because it had very little to no effect on my battery and performance. I rather enjoy the full 4k display [emoji16]
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martinezma99 said:
I tried watching Peru 8k in YouTube but it kept buffering. Bummer. It looked amazing but experience limited by size of screen
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Lol I'm having the same issue my house has a slow connection so what I did is I installed TubeMate from its G+ page (to avoid malware etc.) and downloaded the video in native 4K. Took some while but now I have my own collection of 4K videos to show off to friends and family.

Sleepisme said:
Lol I'm having the same issue my house has a slow connection so what I did is I installed TubeMate from its G+ page (to avoid malware etc.) and downloaded the video in native 4K. Took some while but now I have my own collection of 4K videos to show off to friends and family.
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I'm not able to install some apk files, tubemate included. Some apk's work fine though. Did you face this issue.

arjun.arora said:
I'm not able to install some apk files, tubemate included. Some apk's work fine though. Did you face this issue.
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Actually only one time when I tried to install Alan Walker Theme.apk. I ended up installing using a pc then transfered the .apk into my phone which worked.

Sleepisme said:
Actually only one time when I tried to install Alan Walker Theme.apk. I ended up installing using a pc then transfered the .apk into my phone which worked.
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How did you installed it using the pc, please help.

arjun.arora said:
How did you installed it using the pc, please help.
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I might misunderstood you but here's how to do it.
You just install the .apk on your pc, then transfer the .apk file into your phone's storage once you connect these two devices using usb cable and allow file transfer. Be cautious since some people tinker with the app and change it into malware so install TubeMate .apk only from it's Google+ page. Next, find the file in your phone and execute it within your phone. Make sure beforehand you go to Settings>Lock Screen & Security to toggle on Unknown Sources.

Sleepisme said:
Yeah there's a difference. My way of explaining it, the experience is surreal. You don't really notice it, but your brain kinda do. I don't know how to really explain this. When I enabled the 4K using adb, I can see that the display is so great, like a printed paper as per said by Erica Griffin - she's very nitpicky when it comes to display. So when this display got an approval from her, it's a big thing.
Watch this video on YouTube if you haven't: Peru 8K.
What I can tell is my head hurts after watching it lol. Now I really hope I can easily move to Peru! Your brain got confused, it knows that what you see on the screen is not real, but the display image reproduction is so damn real that it's like looking through a window rather than a display. When your little friendly brain got confused, you'll get headache. Need some time to getbused to it. So for me, yes it is noticable.
I actually prefer this over Samsung's OLED display. This display kinda produce more colour, it's vibrant but still kind on the eyes. My eyes hurt and get tired after watching something on the S8. With a display this good, I don't even notice this phone's large bezels!
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Did you watch in 8K or 4K? cause I think HDR kicks in 8K am I right? I downloaded both 8K and 4K and I can see the HDR difference in monitor! I am gonna transfer both files and see.
Need more 4K HDR stuff

chesterr said:
Did you watch in 8K or 4K? cause I think HDR kicks in 8K am I right? I downloaded both 8K and 4K and I can see the HDR difference in monitor! I am gonna transfer both files and see.
Need more 4K HDR stuff
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Honestly I'm not sure how exactly HDR in this phone works ie whether it is turned on all the time or only kicks in if the content supported it. I'm keen towards the second one.
I use professional mode (sRGB) and the colour reproduction is just realistic and outstanding I'm in love with everything I see now ? and HDR is the best under-appreciated thing ever.
I can only watch in 4K since I'm using the phone to both download and watch. Prior to downloading, the max resolution I am allowed to choose is only 4K. I think if you transfer the 8K video into your phone it will be played in only 4K, but the quality is still top-notch.
What I think is worth mentioning here is I realised after enabling 4K all the time, 480p video on YouTube looks sharper and clearer compared to when 4K is disabled.

Sleepisme said:
I might misunderstood you but here's how to do it.
You just install the .apk on your pc, then transfer the .apk file into your phone's storage once you connect these two devices using usb cable and allow file transfer. Be cautious since some people tinker with the app and change it into malware so install TubeMate .apk only from it's Google+ page. Next, find the file in your phone and execute it within your phone. Make sure beforehand you go to Settings>Lock Screen & Security to toggle on Unknown Sources.
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Great, I'll try it out.. Thanks..

Is this one good ? http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/devian...outube-downloader-2-4-3-android-apk-download/

Netflix HDR

In case you haven't read it today, Netflix is now supporting HDR for our XZP's - see Android Police and or Android Authority's articles.

Does anyone know if 4k is also now activated on netflix for the XZP or is it just hdr?

Shnig said:
Does anyone know if 4k is also now activated on netflix for the XZP or is it just hdr?
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4K has been available on the Netflix app for a long time. HDR was the only thing that was missing (which has now been added)

leijonasisu said:
4K has been available on the Netflix app for a long time. HDR was the only thing that was missing (which has now been added)
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I do not believe this is correct. Do you have a source?

Shnig said:
I do not believe this is correct. Do you have a source?
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What do you think is incorrect? I just finished watching an episode of Daredevil on Netflix in HDR. I didn't see anything in 4K though, but it might be that my preferred series do no come in 4K.

Shnig said:
I do not believe this is correct. Do you have a source?
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Geezus... do a google search :good::good:
https://9to5google.com/2017/08/04/sony-xperia-xz-premium-supports-hdr-streaming-on-netflix/

ishemes said:
What do you think is incorrect? I just finished watching an episode of Daredevil on Netflix in HDR. I didn't see anything in 4K though, but it might be that my preferred series do no come in 4K.
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I was trying to be polite by saying I did not believe that's correct. Netflix's android app does not currently support 4k Playback on any phone. This is a demonstrable fact, it's nothing to do with your preferred series unfortunately.
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ishemes said:
What do you think is incorrect? I just finished watching an episode of Daredevil on Netflix in HDR. I didn't see anything in 4K though, but it might be that my preferred series do no come in 4K.
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Geezus... do a google search :good::good:
https://9to5google.com/2017/08/04/sony-xperia-xz-premium-supports-hdr-streaming-on-netflix/
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My ability to use Google is just fine thank you, as is my ability to read/comprehend: The article you linked only mentions HDR support not 4k support for Netflix because unfortunately Netflix does not support 4k Playback for android phones.

Shnig said:
I was trying to be polite by saying I did not believe that's correct. Netflix's android app does not currently support 4k Playback on any phone. This is a demonstrable fact, it's nothing to do with your preferred series unfortunately.
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No 4K is a shame. I was afraid that this is what you meant. I was hoping though that you meant that there was no HDR content. In any case, there is hope. Especially since the stopped allowing their android app to be installed on a rooted phone. So they might get ready to bring some really high quality content to the phones.

It really doesn't matter anyway. Unless you put the phone within 3 inches of your eyeballs you won't see the improvement in detail over 1080p.
Physically impossible,
HDR on the other hand and high bit rate low compression will and does deliver significant improvments

dazza9075 said:
It really doesn't matter anyway. Unless you put the phone within 3 inches of your eyeballs you won't see the improvement in detail over 1080p.
Physically impossible,
HDR on the other hand and high bit rate low compression will and does deliver significant improvments
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It actually is possible.
I downloaded the Peru 8k video in both 1080p and 2160p. While both of them look really nice, I can see more detail in the 2160p one.
It's not like I can see individual pixels, but more like having a brand new prescription compared to my old one. Both let me see pretty clearly, but one is perceptibly clearer.

Xifar said:
It actually is possible.
I downloaded the Peru 8k video in both 1080p and 2160p. While both of them look really nice, I can see more detail in the 2160p one.
It's not like I can see individual pixels, but more like having a brand new prescription compared to my old one. Both let me see pretty clearly, but one is perceptibly clearer.
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My reply didn't last for some reason an I can't be bothered to type it all out again just now but to summarise.
Physics doesn't lie, with normal eye sight on a screen 5.5 in with, 2160 resolution, the range in which you can detect those details, is 3in, beyond that, a typical person can't see those details on such a high PPI screen.
Monitors have a significantly lower PPI so will have a wider range.
To see 4k Improvements on a large TV you need to be within 3 foot. Far beyond what most people have in their living room. But is exactly the maximum distance you will find in any TV shop
What does make a difference is bitrate, HDR, compression artifacts, Contrast ratio, saturation and brightness.
And typically its that that will improve a pictures appearance.
4k alone, physically can't be detected.
It's the new 3D, Designed to fill a marketing departments wet dreams.

dazza9075 said:
My reply didn't last for some reason an I can't be bothered to type it all out again just now but to summarise.
Physics doesn't lie, with normal eye sight on a screen 5.5 in with, 2160 resolution, the range in which you can detect those details, is 3in, beyond that, a typical person can't see those details on such a high PPI screen.
Monitors have a significantly lower PPI so will have a wider range.
To see 4k Improvements on a large TV you need to be within 3 foot. Far beyond what most people have in their living room. But is exactly the maximum distance you will find in any TV shop
What does make a difference is bitrate, HDR, compression artifacts, Contrast ratio, saturation and brightness.
And typically its that that will improve a pictures appearance.
4k alone, physically can't be detected.
It's the new 3D, Designed to fill a marketing departments wet dreams.
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First mistake is using the term "normal", it should be average. The difference is normal implies what everybody sees, where as average indicates that there is a sliding scale and some see better than others. And just that, not all visual acuity is the same, some are slightly better, some are dramatically better. This applies to a wide variety of factors as well, not just detail.
Second mistake is in assuming the ability to pick out "detail" is the end all be all. The ability to pick out specific details in a static image (say the corner of a building) may in fact be driven by physics (again, using "average" eyesight) however that does not directly correlate into video with moving edges, edge sharpening and pixel bleeding. Just as the ability to pick out detail can be averaged, indicating higher and lower levels of eyesight, sensitivity to motion detection and color balance are also can be judged on a scale. What this says is that the edge of a bright colored building as it moves against the background may have much more than just "detail" to those with heightened visual acuity.

firstly Normal is the perfect description for eye sight that is considered to be optimum, any deviation from that is sub optimal so when one talks about Normal, IE, what is considered perfect, eye sight, that may or may not be the average, but I couldn't give a monkeys about average eyesight, we are talking about the physical limitations of the human eye in a perfect environment.
Secondly, a moving image is even less likely to have higher visible detail. If you are sitting 6 inches away from our tiny 4k screens, the physical limitation of you eye prohibits you from being able to see the individual pixels, you cant see it, in the same way you can see the flag on the moon, even with the most powerful telescopes on earth or even in space, Hubble for instance cant see anything much smaller than a football pitch and yet it can see whole galaxies in what appears to be highly detailed images. your eye can also only see detail in a relatively small portion of your field of view anyway, our eyes are comparatively crap compared to other animals but they are very good multi functional eyes, more of a jack of all trades, master of none.
anyhow, thirdly, you will notice that I did say that the higher bitrate associated with 4K HDR videos along with much better compression algorithms do make a noticeable difference in image quality, which is what you are talking about when talking about colours, contrasts and motion. Its not the 4K that's doing that, its all the goodness that comes with it.
I have this phone, I have several 4K screens of multiple sizes and I can tell you that 4K isn't the be all and end all especially if you sit beyond the optimal distance, if it wasn't for HDR being packaged with 4K it wouldn't be anywhere near as successful as it is. HDR on a OLED is breath taking, hell, even on a decent LCD/LED screen it blows FHD screens out of the water. of course you need a decent HDR TV for that, one that can pump out 1000+ nits.

Sony lied about their screen :)

here are 2 pictures
1 for running the commands on my Z5 compact (broken screen thats why I bought the xz premium)
the other to see if youtube supports the screen.
now the screen only supprted QHD at 640 PPI after trying to run it at 4k
evidently youtube supported 2k resolution on a 720p screen.
so Sony could be yanking us about their "4k" screen when you can clearly see 1080p phones beating it! heck even this z5c on 720p beats it and on 2k its far destructive over the XZ premium!!
talk about 4gb of ram? the z5c has 2!!! try to reset both phones and see the difference in scroll speed in home screen and in app drawer!! z5c is flawless! fully bright as hell supports 2k and it looks alot better.
so maybe thats why we see pixel grids on the xz premium and thats why its not as sharp as other devices (NOTICEABLY LESS SHARP!!! even on "4k" mod pfft as if it has the right to be called a 4k device)
so disappointing... i paid for 4k screen got a virtual 4k... 806 ppi? guess again! its native ppi is 408 even after 4k mod it says DPI 806 but clearly shows PPI (X) 400+ (forgot the exact number) and PPI (Y) 400+.
I know even on 1080p the xz premium supports 4k videos but what proves us that sony actually added lines to the app to support NATIVE 4K and not VIRTUAL?
screen is supposedly supportive of 120hz? lol even on 60hz its not even showing real 60hz the Z5C is far smoother with worse processor and lower ram performs better, worse screen looks a lot sharper, worse camera (in most cases it is but it is sharper though).
So in conclusion, this is not a 4k screen (i could be wrong or missing something) even if it is 4k, to me, i dont even see it comparable to 1080p... Im sorry but lets not let the lies blind fold us..
To add to that sony phones are rootless, they are but whats the point of rooting if youre gonna lose your camera functionality? I say if you root a phone and it becomes worse, to me its automatically rootless
So to finish my post:
SCEW YOU SONY!! THIS MY LAST DEVICE FROM YOU, YOU CHEAP LYING ADVERTISERS MONEY HUNGRY THIEVES!!
Have a good one people

It really is in 4k using the right apps.
Good riddance. Some dude posted a while back that the XZP community is a bit off compared to the other threads. I guess he was right.

Funny how he goes on about ''It's not a 4K screen, it's not, I swear on my life it's not, [email protected]&* you Sony'', then says, "I could be wrong or missing something". Make up your damn mind, either Sony lied to you for sh*ts and giggles because they had nothing better to do or you are just so damn fixated on proving a point that you simply do not even know how to go about proving that point, contradicting yourself about the resolution on top of that.
Grow up!

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Funny how he goes on about ''It's not a 4K screen, it's not, I swear on my life it's not, [email protected]&* you Sony'', then says, "I could be wrong or missing something". Make up your damn mind, either Sony lied to you for sh*ts and giggles because they had nothing better to do or you are just so damn fixated on proving a point that you simply do not even know how to go about proving that point, contradicting yourself about the resolution on top of that.
Grow up!
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I am grown dude i said my opinion i didnt even swear its not i just said concidering the fact that the emulator can make a 720p screen run at 2k how can we make sure that this 4k is really 4k? Native and not virtual... You say using the right apps its really 4k how can u be so sure? I ran youtube vid on 2k on a 720p screen emulated to 2k so how does that prove anything?
Btw im not mad at the developers in here the other poat stated the sick comunity of unthankful people who are accusing them of not doing a good job, im not mad at them im mad at sony. If i was right with you people would you look me in a straight face telling me you really think this 4k screen looks sharper than the z3? (1080p) dont answer before you check, cuz i did, on 4k enabled, compare it to the z3 and it looks less sharp, and the z3 has whiter whites so i paid for this device cuz of how sony advertised its screen being the best since its 4k but it actually isnt as good so maybe youre mad at me for hating but i paid loads for this concidering what in can deliver according to the advertisements of sony but in actuality it doesnt show it...
I said maybe i could be wrong about the screen not being a native 4k, but even if im wrong this doesnt look 4k to me, look me in a straight face and tell me this actually looks 4times sharper than any other 1080p screen. If you cant tell me that dont judge me for being mad cuz i paid for 4 times 1080 screen and all i got is worse sharpness with pixelated grids

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It really is in 4k using the right apps.
Good riddance. Some dude posted a while back that the XZP community is a bit off compared to the other threads. I guess he was right.
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No im not a bit off over the devs they are doing a great job im not hating on any dev nor their work cuz this device is a pain in the behind to root it and use it properly.
Im mad straight at sony.
How can u really prove its really 4k? Even if u do, does this screen look sharper than 1080p screens? For god sake i can see pixel grids i get cuz of the pattern of the pixels but i paid for a. 4k screen and i dont understand how you can actually say its sharper than other 1080 or 2k phones.. It isnt i can show you pics of it going against the z3 and the samsung and the htc and this is supposed to have the best screen of all? Im sorry if im coming out as a pain dissing the device but im saying the truth in my eyes and this doesnt look anything like I expected from a 4k screen to deliver... The worst i expected is for it to not be worse than 1080p phones.. But its even worse so im really disappointed.

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No im not a bit off over the devs they are doing a great job im not hating on any dev nor their work cuz this device is a pain in the behind to root it and use it properly.
Im mad straight at sony.
How can u really prove its really 4k? Even if u do, does this screen look sharper than 1080p screens? For god sake i can see pixel grids i get cuz of the pattern of the pixels but i paid for a. 4k screen and i dont understand how you can actually say its sharper than other 1080 or 2k phones.. It isnt i can show you pics of it going against the z3 and the samsung and the htc and this is supposed to have the best screen of all? Im sorry if im coming out as a pain dissing the device but im saying the truth in my eyes
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So your judgement is derived from 'limited' tests using an emulator and your visual perception, just because the difference is not discernible to your eyes you believe it is a lie, fair enough, that is your opinion after all. But to come to that conclusion again by limited means of testing, that does not stand true against what other people have tested and examined and again, peoples perception differs, whether it is a figment of someone imagination or a actual fact, but people can see the crispness, clarity, sharpness or whatever you words you want to use.
I myself do not game, watch videos, skype or so on with my phone, I use it purely as a phone, a means of communication and the few times I have displayed 4K content, I have been clearly able to see the difference in what I am looking at, but that by using 4K .MKV files from my NAS and 4K images, maybe, just maybe that is because I do not spend more than a few minutes at a time looking at the screen of my phone, and spend less than an hour a day actually using my phone. Who knows.

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So your judgement is derived from 'limited' tests using an emulator and your visual perception, just because the difference is not discernible to your eyes you believe it is a lie, fair enough, that is your opinion after all. But to come to that conclusion again by limited means of testing, that does not stand true against what other people have tested and examined and again, peoples perception differs, whether it is a figment of someone imagination or a actual fact, but people can see the crispness, clarity, sharpness or whatever you words you want to use.
I myself do not game, watch videos, skype or so on with my phone, I use it purely as a phone, a means of communication and the few times I have displayed 4K content, I have been clearly able to see the difference in what I am looking at, but that by using 4K .MKV files from my NAS and 4K images, maybe, just maybe that is because I do not spend more than a few minutes at a time looking at the screen of my phone, and spend less than an hour a day actually using my phone. Who knows.
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well im not just using "an" emulator im using the only way to show the device in 4k all the time. have you seen youtube videos on "how to enable 4k at all times" which means not just apps that support 4k but all the phone. so my point is using this emulator, the device is not naively 4k, proven! I provided pics of z5c running at 2k when its a 720p, im just saying this is not a native 4k method.
my second point is, yes after running this particular method the device does look sharper than it was, but not sharper than other devices. sharpness is not a matter of opinion nor imagination, if it was a color problem i could be color blind yes, but sharpness is not a personal opinion, its a fact. maybe a few tests arent enough but having an old phone as old as the z3 showing crisper images on instagram and almost any other app or picture, with better white balance against this so called premium phone with supposedly 4k screen just doesnt sit tight in my expectations in fact its worse than the worst you can expect...
not just the z3, but the s8, z5 premium, these are devices i have hold of to compare but if these devices have crisper image than this 4k then you tell me sony didnt lie to us...
and I also have a samsung s5 phone and i went to youtube, got into "4k wild animals" video put on my xz premium 4k settings, and 1080 on the s5 and the s5 looks just as sharp and on some edges even sharper.
does this make sense to you? maybe youre not believing me because there are no display comparisons for this device against others, except the s8, which evidently the s8 has a sharper display (the XZ premium is stated as more realistic but less sharper) so people cant really tell a difference and id be happy to post pictures of comparison.
PS: just a thing to think about for you, do you really think I would go through this much trouble and time trying to prove the device is actually 4k, if the device was as pleasing as I expected? why would I bother? a 4k screen would make you go "GOD DAMN THIS SCREEN IS AWESOMEEEE!" and not "HMM seems fishy I think I should check that out". just saying you should think about that.

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well im not just using "an" emulator im using the only way to show the device in 4k all the time. have you seen youtube videos on "how to enable 4k at all times" which means not just apps that support 4k but all the phone. so my point is using this emulator, the device is not naively 4k, proven! I provided pics of z5c running at 2k when its a 720p, im just saying this is not a native 4k method.
my second point is, yes after running this particular method the device does look sharper than it was, but not sharper than other devices. sharpness is not a matter of opinion nor imagination, if it was a color problem i could be color blind yes, but sharpness is not a personal opinion, its a fact. maybe a few tests arent enough but having an old phone as old as the z3 showing crisper images on instagram and almost any other app or picture, with better white balance against this so called premium phone with supposedly 4k screen just doesnt sit tight in my expectations in fact its worse than the worst you can expect...
not just the z3, but the s8, z5 premium, these are devices i have hold of to compare but if these devices have crisper image than this 4k then you tell me sony didnt lie to us...
and I also have a samsung s5 phone and i went to youtube, got into "4k wild animals" video put on my xz premium 4k settings, and 1080 on the s5 and the s5 looks just as sharp and on some edges even sharper.
does this make sense to you? maybe youre not believing me because there are no display comparisons for this device against others, except the s8, which evidently the s8 has a sharper display (the XZ premium is stated as more realistic but less sharper) so people cant really tell a difference and id be happy to post pictures of comparison.
PS: just a thing to think about for you, do you really think I would go through this much trouble and time trying to prove the device is actually 4k, if the device was as pleasing as I expected? why would I bother? a 4k screen would make you go "GOD DAMN THIS SCREEN IS AWESOMEEEE!" and not "HMM seems fishy I think I should check that out". just saying you should think about that.
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I think you may have missed something, the phone is not running 4K full time and if you looked into it before purchase as most 'enthusiasts' do, you would research a device before taking the plunge and splashing out large amounts of money. I purchased my XZP a month or so after launch, after having read many reviews and visited this section of XDA as I had the Z5P before this and I was aware, even from the Z5P that 4K was an 'on-demand' feature only utilised by certain applications. So there is that, but also on your point of clarity, I cannot say whether you are right or wrong in comparison to other devices as I solely use the one phone and only have the need for one phone so there would be no need for me to 'check' against other phones as it does not matter to me how other devices perform, I own a XZP.
I do understand what you are getting at though, the problem is, you have placed far too much emphasis on how other devices perform and to be frank, there are not a large number of people who are in the same boat as you, you may find some feel the same way but look at the majority of users on XDA of the XZP, they have no complaints and even the Devs who I assume are far more knowledgeable than both of us are fine with the XZP.

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I think you may have missed something, the phone is not running 4K full time and if you looked into it before purchase as most 'enthusiasts' do, you would research a device before taking the plunge and splashing out large amounts of money. I purchased my XZP a month or so after launch, after having read many reviews and visited this section of XDA as I had the Z5P before this and I was aware, even from the Z5P that 4K was an 'on-demand' feature only utilised by certain applications. So there is that, but also on your point of clarity, I cannot say whether you are right or wrong in comparison to other devices as I solely use the one phone and only have the need for one phone so there would be no need for me to 'check' against other phones as it does not matter to me how other devices perform, I own a XZP.
I do understand what you are getting at though, the problem is, you have placed far too much emphasis on how other devices perform and to be frank, there are not a large number of people who are in the same boat as you, you may find some feel the same way but look at the majority of users on XDA of the XZP, they have no complaints and even the Devs who I assume are far more knowledgeable than both of us are fine with the XZP.
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well that is true although i did spend quite a lot of time researching the phone not one reviewer said that it doesnt run 4k all the time. i didnt own a z5 so i didnt know, after a while some reviewers stated the fact that it doesnt run at all times, even so mate im not hating nor mad at any one except sony you know why? cuz a lot of customers went on to sony support center asking for enabling 4k at all time, you know what sony suggested? using that emulator I talked about earlier, it was ok at first but i have a sharp eye to notice things, and I did notice that the screen is still not as sharp, so then I tried running the emulator on my 720p screen z5c and it ran at 2k... then I was surprised and disappointed that sony them selves would answer the question of "how to enable 4k at all times" with a virtual emulator rather than to allow enjoy *native* 4k.
thats one point made, second point is maybe im too into my device than any one else, to the point where I go digging on it and comparing it its because its a newer generation.
Im paying for a new phone, if im getting just as good as previews owns then why buy? cuz technology is developing, sony said its 4k, but they tell us to virtually emulate it to use it all the time at 4k, lying to our faces? it worked on the z5c so how is that native? how does that make our device special? I could have sticked to my old phone had my screen fixed for a lil money if im getting 2k at a 4.7" screen is even better than 4k on 5.5" so why sony advertisers are so hype "oh look 4k, WOW damn sony is good JEEZ 4k screen on a smartphone thats some thing else right there thats new thats TECHNOLOGY right there" when its just a software emulating pixels, again, even if the screen is proven 4K, the method sony has provided us to run it at 4k at all times isnt really 4k and they say it is, who knows what else they are lying about keep digging and ill find more trust me.
"only look at your plate, stay out of others plates" that is true, but in this case, the plate company has gave me a reason to buy their plate so I would enjoy what the plate has to offer, once I got the plate, it isnt what I wanted, so I ordered a 4k phone, it didnt look like one, sure to some people it is a great display i think so too, it is VERY good, crisp and is very realistic and natural, but some people and not only me, you can see in a lot of threads that there are a lot of pissed off mislead people because the hype of this phone is 4K HDR.
sadly if its better than other 1080p phones, it looks the same some times worse, in some cases better but not in terms of sharpness. the more pixels you have the more detailed the display, ive seen more details on other screens.
im stuck with the device i aint selling its pretty good overall im not complaining about the device, but I am mad at sony for pissing me off it is a great device, but my expectations were a lot higher, very disappointing by sony...
thats just the screen, it pisses me off even more knowing that most phone companies use SONY cameras and sony cant even compete with them in terms of photo quality, just shows how low lives money hungry they are... very manipulative and dont care about their customers. telling me to virtually run 4k is actually NATIVE when it clearly can run a 720p phone in 2k!

There are other ways to enable 4K or even 2K on the phone via ADB I believe, take a look around the forum and you might find a better way to run it rather than the emulator.
I have never looked into it myself because I am satisfied with the phone and do not want 4K to be always on and drain my battery. Also, that is another consideration Sony factored in, as on the Z5P and the XZP, 4K and battery life need to coexist, and though the screen is of course a major feature as advertised, they have to find a balance as not all consumers are like us XDA users, most people do not root their phones and mess with them like we do. You have to remember that also, we would love certain features but we need a balance, the XZP could have been even bigger and heavier if they had constant 4K and a larger capacity battery to support it and provide enough juice to last 2 days, you have to remember that battery charge times, in-call and standby times are also major factors, people do buy because of battery life expectations, having to charge less, having greater freedom of usage and not having to worry about charging every hour.

Yah i guess youre right.
The adb is the emulator im talking about.
Yah the phone i awesome after all, even on youtube on 4k i thought it would be more crisp, it is pretty crisp and sharp but i expected more on 4k display thats what dissapointed me cuz my s5 in youtube on 1080p is sharper than ny xz premiun on 4k in the same video so it kind of bugs me..
Overall the quality of the display and colors produce a more natural display but when it comes to sharpness i expected better.

madshark2009 said:
Yah i guess youre right.
The adb is the emulator im talking about.
Yah the phone i awesome after all, even on youtube on 4k i thought it would be more crisp, it is pretty crisp and sharp but i expected more on 4k display thats what dissapointed me cuz my s5 in youtube on 1080p is sharper than ny xz premiun on 4k in the same video so it kind of bugs me..
Overall the quality of the display and colors produce a more natural display but when it comes to sharpness i expected better.
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I completely understand where you are coming from, you built up your expectations from the way Sony advertised the device, the main selling features but it fell short of your expectations, unfortunately, that can happen a lot and there is little we can do about it, I believe the majority of users feel that way about at least one thing on the XZP and that seems to revolve around the Camera itself and how the quality of images is inferior to other manufacturers using the same Sony camera.
Maybe you can go to a store and compare other Sony devices against your expectations for your next purchase, maybe you can save yourself some money and find a 'cheaper' device that meets your expectations because we know how expensive the XZP was and who knows if the next 'Premium' device will be any better.

Mobfigurz said:
I completely understand where you are coming from, you built up your expectations from the way Sony advertised the device, the main selling features but it fell short of your expectations, unfortunately, that can happen a lot and there is little we can do about it, I believe the majority of users feel that way about at least one thing on the XZP and that seems to revolve around the Camera itself and how the quality of images is inferior to other manufacturers using the same Sony camera.
Maybe you can go to a store and compare other Sony devices against your expectations for your next purchase, maybe you can save yourself some money and find a 'cheaper' device that meets your expectations because we know how expensive the XZP was and who knows if the next 'Premium' device will be any better.
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yah Im from Israel, we almost dont have any store that shows you the device before purchasing, you just go to the store and ask for what you want to buy and you cant open any thing before purchase...
so I cant really compare and sony isnt famous in israel when it comes to phones so its hard to find some one who has sony to compare with so I rely on the internet.
I actually checked some youtube videos on speed test against some flagship devices from other manufacturers and I noticed that the xzp does have a crisp screen (could be the camera not catching the best angle for the displays) so in my conclusion all the manufactures are using QHD and UHD displays but their previous devices that has 1080p have crisper displays,either that or before they used over-saturated amoled displays that made the screen look sharper but now are using more natural image producing displays less saturated which caused our eye to believe its less sharp, I dont really understand, still I expected better.
yes camera is inferior due to lack of OIS but in videos in the morning it does perform better than all in my opinion, still hold the device in a tripod it will perform just as good even at night...
Yet Sony is the main camera provider for most of the other manufactures and yet sony devices have lower quality than all, just doesnt make any sense, here I ask my self this question:
Is sony doing this because they get more money from other manufactures buying their camera than costumers buying their phones? maybe they have a contract on which sony is not allowed to produce better images than its competitors otherwise they would stop buying cameras from them? - I actually read that some where...

@madshark2009 Just download AIDA64 from play store.. it reads the hardware spec of the display panel. it clear says the screen resolution is 2160*3840. i guess this answer your question. FYI - this is shown as this while you are running the phone even at stock 1080p mode. so calm down mate XD

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@madshark2009 Just download AIDA64 from play store.. it reads the hardware spec of the display panel. it clear says the screen resolution is 2160*3840. i guess this answer your question. FYI - this is shown as this while you are running the phone even at stock 1080p mode. so calm down mate XD
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Yah bro im calm i do believe its a 4k display.
But:
Its only used in a couple of apps.
And no, adb commands dont turn it to NATIVE 4K.
So yayyyy native 4k is only enabled in 3 apps.
Thats ok to you? They didnt even include an option for us!
Sony stricted using 4k at all times! Heck the display is even a 120hz display and its not even enabled! Aosp reads the screen as 120hz but no one knows how to activate it!
So yah we have 4k display but only used in 2-3 apps and not even in the UI! So yah to me they lied cuz i paid for 4k, not for "sometimes 4k" so really samsung has 2k but at least you can use google chrome in native 2k or instagram or the UI or any thing! Now thats some real 2k! And they add an option to lower!
So why sony stricting us? To me i concider their work not the best in these terms.
And btw read the comments before posting

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Yah bro im calm i do believe its a 4k display.
But:
Its only used in a couple of apps.
And no, adb commands dont turn it to NATIVE 4K.
So yayyyy native 4k is only enabled in 3 apps.
Thats ok to you? They didnt even include an option for us!
Sony stricted using 4k at all times! Heck the display is even a 120hz display and its not even enabled! Aosp reads the screen as 120hz but no one knows how to activate it!
So yah we have 4k display but only used in 2-3 apps and not even in the UI! So yah to me they lied cuz i paid for 4k, not for "sometimes 4k" so really samsung has 2k but at least you can use google chrome in native 2k or instagram or the UI or any thing! Now thats some real 2k! And they add an option to lower!
So why sony stricting us? To me i concider their work not the best in these terms.
And btw read the comments before posting
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now that i do agree with you my man.. but then again we have to think of it in multiple ways.. im pretty sure sony was scared of general performance issues and people will nag about it. all and all one pro member here pointed me out that there is a oreo asop rom which utilizes the panel and render the entire ui and apps in 4k ( its a dynamic resolution changer embedded with the kernal) . you should try that
i got my phone like a week ago... will run stock for a week or two more and will start taking the virginity away to try this.

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now that i do agree with you my man.. but then again we have to think of it in multiple ways.. im pretty sure sony was scared of general performance issues and people will nag about it. all and all one pro member here pointed me out that there is a oreo asop rom which utilizes the panel and render the entire ui and apps in 4k ( its a dynamic resolution changer embedded with the kernal) . you should try that
i got my phone like a week ago... will run stock for a week or two more and will start taking the virginity away to try this.
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yah but its still not functional as i read it needs more modification.
and true, it could make performance drop dramatically, but they should add that in options like a switch, and when you enable 4k, a message should appear and say "you may notice stutters and a drop in performance, please do not use for high graphics games to enjoy overall performance" or some thing like that, that way the customer can choose whether to give up on performance for graphics or give up on graphics for performance, I mean its really not that laggy when just surfing the device, and then you can just switch to 1080 when you game, I dont know why they wouldnt do that...
Im waiting for @Miustone he has a good project coming up and ill see the feedback on battery, camera, display and if its worth it then ima give up my warranty.

madshark2009 said:
Yah bro im calm i do believe its a 4k display.
But:
Its only used in a couple of apps.
And no, adb commands dont turn it to NATIVE 4K.
So yayyyy native 4k is only enabled in 3 apps.
Thats ok to you? They didnt even include an option for us!
Sony stricted using 4k at all times! Heck the display is even a 120hz display and its not even enabled! Aosp reads the screen as 120hz but no one knows how to activate it!
So yah we have 4k display but only used in 2-3 apps and not even in the UI! So yah to me they lied cuz i paid for 4k, not for "sometimes 4k" so really samsung has 2k but at least you can use google chrome in native 2k or instagram or the UI or any thing! Now thats some real 2k! And they add an option to lower!
So why sony stricting us? To me i concider their work not the best in these terms.
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Thats great.. please do notify me when the project is done .. i want to be one of the first to test it as well.. cheers mate
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yah but its still not functional as i read it needs more modification.
and true, it could make performance drop dramatically, but they should add that in options like a switch, and when you enable 4k, a message should appear and say "you may notice stutters and a drop in performance, please do not use for high graphics games to enjoy overall performance" or some thing like that, that way the customer can choose whether to give up on performance for graphics or give up on graphics for performance, I mean its really not that laggy when just surfing the device, and then you can just switch to 1080 when you game, I dont know why they wouldnt do that...
Im waiting for @Miustone he has a good project coming up and ill see the feedback on battery, camera, display and if its worth it then ima give up my warranty.
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Pretty much all reviewers that are even somewhat relevant on Youtube outlined that the UI and most of the apps aren't really rendered in 4K.
I was aware of this information when the phone wasn't even released yet, some reviewers got their review samples early, and they noticed that right away, they probably got that info in the reviewer's guide Sony gives them as well, so I cannot imagine how you managed to avoid this very important piece of spec, if you've done the research before purchase, as you said. I haven't seen an XZP review that didn't mention that. If there is one, it's a bad one.
I don't know about you guys, but I don't even consider buying the latest model in the first four to six months of the release, until the dust settles and user reviews come out. I'm not paying that kind of money to be an early adopter. Also, in six months, the prices go down a lot, specially with Sony.
So, my somewhat-informed opinion is that no, Sony did not lie about the screen. Sure, it wasn't specified in the spec-sheet, but still, it was a well documented "feature" upon the release.
And the fact that it's a 120Hz panel, means nothing and doesn't necessarily mean you can run it at actual 120Hz. You might, but it's not a guarantee. Its' just the panel.
I bet you plenty of premium phones out there have panels that are capable of 120Hz, or even more, but to actually enable that and make it work as it's supposed to is not that simple and I'm sure if Sony could pull that off, they would. Because bigger numbers in spec sheets sell phones, bigger numbers are better. Always. Specially in spec sheets.
I know for a fact that my desktop monitor's panel is capable of 100HZ at least, 'cause I have the same panel in my other monitor that runs at 120Hz. But everything else apart from the panel is very very different in those two monitors. Panel alone doesn't make a screen/monitor.

Atrax2010 said:
Pretty much all reviewers that are even somewhat relevant on Youtube outlined that the UI and most of the apps aren't really rendered in 4K.
I was aware of this information when the phone wasn't even released yet, some reviewers got their review samples early, and they noticed that right away, they probably got that info in the reviewer's guide Sony gives them as well, so I cannot imagine how you managed to avoid this very important piece of spec, if you've done the research before purchase, as you said. I haven't seen an XZP review that didn't mention that. If there is one, it's a bad one.
I don't know about you guys, but I don't even consider buying the latest model in the first four to six months of the release, until the dust settles and user reviews come out. I'm not paying that kind of money to be an early adopter. Also, in six months, the prices go down a lot, specially with Sony.
So, my somewhat-informed opinion is that no, Sony did not lie about the screen. Sure, it wasn't specified in the spec-sheet, but still, it was a well documented "feature" upon the release.
And the fact that it's a 120Hz panel, means nothing and doesn't necessarily mean you can run it at actual 120Hz. You might, but it's not a guarantee. Its' just the panel.
I bet you plenty of premium phones out there have panels that are capable of 120Hz, or even more, but to actually enable that and make it work as it's supposed to is not that simple and I'm sure if Sony could pull that off, they would. Because bigger numbers in spec sheets sell phones, bigger numbers are better. Always. Specially in spec sheets.
I know for a fact that my desktop monitor's panel is capable of 100HZ at least, 'cause I have the same panel in my other monitor that runs at 120Hz. But everything else apart from the panel is very very different in those two monitors. Panel alone doesn't make a screen/monitor.
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yes i have done my research, but only after a long period was it discovered that the ADB commands only run it in 4k VIRTUALLY which I didnt think it would be that way (and a lot of others still dont even know what virtual is)
i thought it was native, some thing that makes our device more special than others.
ive seen lots of reviews where they claim this mod is actually 4k because SONY said so, but its not native, so its a lie.
ask in sony forums how to enable 4k at all times, they give you this method and its not even native and they are telling customers its real 4k. you tell me thats not a lie?
I dont care how virtual 4k looks like, I could have bought the samsung having native 2k. I could have bought the HTC or the iphone, I could have even stayed on my previous phone and used the commands and run it at 2k/4k, whats the point of paying extra if you only get native support of 4k for a couple of apps? I actually thought only the XZ premium is 4k so when I had my z5 compact with a broken screen I was like "hey why spend much money on fixing? looks like the new phones are all coming 2k/4k why stick to 720p??" so i bought the xz premium cuz I felt like im oldschool I wanted an upgrade, but if i knew this method works on my z5c I wouldnt have thought of buying a new phone I could have just paid 50$ and got it fixed.