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just a quick question...
if I change my recovery type, as an example if I change to clockwork using ROMmanager, will i still be able to use my previous nandroid back ups?
and while i know this might be somewhat subjective, recovery image preferences?
is there a "best" one? I am still using the one I originally used on initial rooting... RA-hero...
maybe...if not, its easy enough to flash the recovery back..
You can still use your old recovery images but you have to relocate them. Clockwork stores it's images in a different folder than RA did. However once you flash Clockwork you can just move your old ones to the folder that Clockwork uses and they will still function.
Just a mention, worked great once I moved my nandroids to the new folder. had to let it backup once to create the folder, but easy peasy.
and clockwork seems really nice Lots of features...
but one strange thing... when doing a datawipe for a fresh flash, it seemed to say it was wiping the ext part too? that was annoying, thank god I did a nandroid that included my ext part in the backup. :-\
the most annoying thing about that was when i flashed the Cyanogen rom, none of my apps on ext were there (obviously), so wondering, how the hell can i access the ext part for backing up apps before wiping?
Titanium backup is your friend. It'll back up your apps and their data. It might cause some issues if you are going to a different ROM when restoring the data though. You can try it at least. It's a fantastic little app.
that seems to be a fave 'round these parts, but i have heard of a few issues, like you mentioned...
usually I use Astro from app backup/restore. works, but kinda a PITA.
BUT! I just discovered something ****ing cool about clockwork...
since I did a nandroid that Included my ext part... when i went to install a new rom for SnG (****s n giggles), well the first time I had lost my ext part apps because clockwork wipes it, but then i poked around in the restore options, under advanced restore, it gives me the option of restoring a ext part from a previous nandroid, separately from the rest of that specific backup!
so, in short, what I am testing right now:
1) data wipe (inc ext part) with clockwork.
2) flash of Cyanogen RC1 (flashing a few fixes like VVM and kernel as well)
3) then "restoring" the ext part Only from a previous nandroid backup, hopefully restoring all of my apps...?
booting up right now, results in a few mins.
lol, just realized something obvious...
2.2 (cyanogen RC1) uses a Native a2sd method, not DTs method.... crap, lol.
so next thing is to flash that Darktremmor fix, then see if my apps show? or... anyone got an idea to transfer from ext part to the native method?
EDIT: well, that didnt work, stuck on bootscreen. fug.
OK, so I have decided I am Not a fan of Clockwork recovery... no, sir,.
Could someone point me to a "better" recovery? Like for DLing, perhaps a quick tut on flashing a new recovery image?
Please?
great "quick tut" on the Unlocker site, but I can't post links....
my fav. has been the "unofficial RA" Darch 1.7something, I renamed it "rad" for easy term. typing, so I can't remember the exact name, originally got it from link on Buufed thread.
currently using Darch's Godspeed, it's ok, agree about Clockwork, don't like it.
so what good is Rom Mngr if you don't use Clockwork? sure, it's a shortcut to recovery, but that's all, and I've got Quick Boot for that, any reason not to get rid of Rom Mngr?
i personally do not like clockwork at all.
I'm looking to upgrade my phone to a custom ROM, but I'm not sure which one is the best for my needs. This is what I am looking for:
Fyro Update
Increased Phone Speed
Increased Battery Support
Adblock for browser and apps
Also, how do I flash my ROM? I have the drivers to connect my phone to my computer, and that's about as far as I got. Secondly, will I lose my apps and their data? I already have my contacts and SMS backed up.
Thanks guys
jt
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That's actually the one I was looking at. Is there instructions on how to flash your ROM? Will I lose my apps and their data?
After rooting you'll need Clockwork Recovery mod(CWM). Look for a Dev who has created a root with a CWM install (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388).
1. Follow steps to root and install CWM.
2. Download a ROM and put it on your SDcard (Start with ones that have been around for a while and have been tested quite a bit. Avoid Froyo ones till you feel comfortable with CWM and Odin {if you ever use it}).
3. Reboot into CWM, BACKUP everything (this is key for your data to come back), wipe x3 (including cache)
4. Install ROM from SDcard(reboot, may take a few minutes to load for the first time)
5. Reboot into CWM, and advance restore (DATA only). reboot
6. Enjoy with all your data.
Hope this helps
Epic Experience + Phoenix is the best battery life I've had on any ROM.
Performance feels like stock, which is to say, this phone is really fast just as is and I don't think its screaming for better performance out of the box. Its not like it feels sluggish like the Evo does.
All these devs do great work! You can't go wrong with any of these roms. This belongs in the General Discussions section!
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Streamline8 said:
After rooting you'll need Clockwork Recovery mod(CWM). Look for a Dev who has created a root with a CWM install (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388).
1. Follow steps to root and install CWM.
2. Download a ROM and put it on your SDcard (Start with ones that have been around for a while and have been tested quite a bit. Avoid Froyo ones till you feel comfortable with CWM and Odin {if you ever use it}).
3. Reboot into CWM, BACKUP everything (this is key for your data to come back), wipe x3 (including cache)
4. Install ROM from SDcard(reboot, may take a few minutes to load for the first time)
5. Reboot into CWM, and advance restore (DATA only). reboot
6. Enjoy with all your data.
Hope this helps
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Hoping you can help me a little further;
1) Done successfully
2) Done
3) How do I boot into CWM? I installed Titanium back up, and ROM manager - not sure if that's needed or not
Thanks guys
PS, sorry for posting in the wrong section
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Hoping you can help me a little further;
1) Done successfully
2) Done
3) How do I boot into CWM? I installed Titanium back up, and ROM manager - not sure if that's needed or not
Thanks guys
PS, sorry for posting in the wrong section
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camera button, down volume and power on.
I suggest you try them all and figure out what you like or don't like. Also try out the ODIN program so when you accidentally bork your phone you will know how to fix it right away.
Got it. I assume this is backing up to my SD card. Do I not wipe my SD card?
Thanks, this should be the last question!
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Got it. I assume this is backing up to my SD card. Do I not wipe my SD card?
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The only way you will wipe your SD card is if you partition it for A2SD support. The factory reset wipes all your data and might be a good idea if you are going from one rom/kernel to another. CWM backs up to your SD card. I have about 6 backups and can restore several different roms if I want. If you try all the roms out and make backups of all them it will be easy to go back to what you want.
A program called ROM Manager will make it easy to rename your backups.
CWM doesnt seem to work for me. Why do more cooks just do DFT?
Because its easier, and works for 99% of people if you follow directions,and also wrong section for this post.
actually just to thorw my thoughts there. i perfer DTF. i find it kind of disappointing that theres alot of CWM but not of DFT going on.
DEV's please do DFT along with your CWM!!! thank you
And to add to the posts above mine, flashing via cwm is standard on Android phones....
Cwm is way better imo. You need to use selected partitions with each build type. I say make em all flashable through cwm.
I don't get why some have issues with CWM. It's SO much simpler to use in long term operations or if you're a flashoholic. If you say it doesn't work for you, obviously you've done something wrong. Most of the time, it's all a question of having the right partition sizes. If you want ALL ROMs to be compatible, simply flash the 400Mb CWM partition layout and use App2SD+ if you have a leo. If you're a Gingerbread type of guy, flash the 150mb partition size and you're set! Personally what I do is 30mb cache, 120mb system and the rest for data.
Also, some people have issues with CWM because they most likely have issues with their flash. Easiest way to recover is to flash a stock WinMo ROM, restore SPL, format SD card and start all over again.
These forums have TONS of information on how to use CWM and get it up and running, so I don't get it...
yh I like CWM better. Just much neater I think.
Just my opinion
Plus you don't even need a computer. Also if your applying a theme and it messes up, you can just flash your recovery. Dft if you mess up you have to start over.
maybe the reason why i have not tried the CWM is beacuse of the partions stuff. i really dont get it.... and i have gotten fast at setting up ym phone. all my usefull apps are backed up on a box.net account just download and install. no problem. so yeah.
DFT all the way, until sooner or later all of them will be CWM and ill have to change over to it eventually... btu int he mean time DFT!
CWM..........it is!!
CWM is definatly easier. I will admit I was reluctant at first to switch from DFT. Old habits die hard I suppose. But now I can download a new rom and flash it from anywhere. And the backup is awesome to have!! Besides the roms are usually easier to put together for the dev's too. However, the one drawback, IMHO, is different roms require different partition sizes. If CWM were flashable from magldr, or a one size fits all standard were created this would eliminate the need for a pc connection all together.
Clockworkmod benefits=
1. You can make a FULL backup
2. You can make a FULL restore
3. You can wipe each individual part (data, system, sd-ext etc.)
4. You can flash other mods very easily
5. You can do EVERYTHING from your phone including download & flashing the ROM
6. You can wipe dalvik cache and normal cache to save space
7. You can format or partition your SD-card
8. You can store as many ROM's on your SD card to flash at a later time as you want
9. Which is most important!! you can update to a newer version of your favorite ROM without losing ONE THING!!
10. You can fix permissions and wipe battery stats
These are just 10 things I just thought of on the top of my head lol. I think most people don't like it because they haven't gave it long enough of a chance. If your coming from another Android device like me that had Clockworkmod then you couldn't live without it!! I can't think of ONE reason that MAGLDR builds are better than "flashable zips". This is just my opinion
@moto +1 - my man!
About partitions..... only thing u need to know about it is....
Look at the rom u want to flash. You need to know the size of it after it is unzipped. Think of your phone as a box. And your rom as what u want to get in the box. Your not going to fit a sense rom in a 150 mb. partition "box" because its just to big 200+mb. So get a bigger box. Use the 400mb box. If you have a non tmobile hd2 u will need more space to pack your apps and userdata into. Your rom is the first thing in the box and its already almost full, so once your phone starts packing your apps and userdata into the box it gets full really fast. This is where apps2sd and sdcard partitions come into play, think of it as strapping a smaller box ontop of your 400mb box and shipping for the same price. Basically make sure your box (partition) is big enough to fit all your **** in. Easy cheesy!!!!
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motoman234 said:
Clockworkmod benefits=
1. You can make a FULL backup
2. You can make a FULL restore
3. You can wipe each individual part (data, system, sd-ext etc.)
4. You can flash other mods very easily
5. You can do EVERYTHING from your phone including download & flashing the ROM
6. You can wipe dalvik cache and normal cache to save space
7. You can format or partition your SD-card
8. You can store as many ROM's on your SD card to flash at a later time as you want
9. Which is most important!! you can update to a newer version of your favorite ROM without losing ONE THING!!
10. You can fix permissions and wipe battery stats
These are just 10 things I just thought of on the top of my head lol. I think most people don't like it because they haven't gave it long enough of a chance. If your coming from another Android device like me that had Clockworkmod then you couldn't live without it!! I can't think of ONE reason that MAGLDR builds are better than "flashable zips". This is just my opinion
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+1 Best explanation about CWM, DFT is good to start form scratch. Go with CWM and you never look back.
I just CAN'T believe it!!! People keep asking the same question everyday....
How disappointing...
Anyone left with working brain cells??
LOL
bigdookie said:
CWM doesnt seem to work for me. Why do more cooks just do DFT?
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It's all a conspiracy, the devs all got togehter and said if they only build CWM builds then bigdookie won't be able to flash any of the builds LOL
Seriously though, CWM is so easy to use (besides the benefits pointed out by motoman) - especially if you're on magldr 1.13 - just decide what partition size you need for your zip rom (usually specified in the rom thread) and flash it - you even get to use DAF to flash the partition, so you shouldn't have any problem
To access CWM, in magldr menu go to AD Recovery and you are in Recovery mode.
I just started using CWM and love it,my main question is this. if i try a rom i like, get it all set up and working, and then make a backup in cwm, do i need to keep the copy of the zipped rom on my card, or is the backup enough?
along those same lines, if i try a second rom, and then get it set up and do a backup, can i just restore from the previous roms cmw backup file, or do i have to reflash the previous rom and then do the restore?
just curious, cuz i like trying different roms, but i want to keep a "safety" restore point no matter what rom i switch to.
I hope this makes sense?
Thanks in advance.
dezaras6 said:
I just started using CWM and love it,my main question is this. if i try a rom i like, get it all set up and working, and then make a backup in cwm, do i need to keep the copy of the zipped rom on my card, or is the backup enough?
along those same lines, if i try a second rom, and then get it set up and do a backup, can i just restore from the previous roms cmw backup file, or do i have to reflash the previous rom and then do the restore?
just curious, cuz i like trying different roms, but i want to keep a "safety" restore point no matter what rom i switch to.
I hope this makes sense?
Thanks in advance.
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The backup will contain everything you need to do a full restore. You can trash the zip of the rom. If you need it again for some reason just download it again. You can have as many different backups as your sdcard can hold. They are saved in the clockwork folder by date and time. By the way your sdcard will fill up fast doing 4 or 5 backups so don't be alarmed when it is suddenly full, just go delete old ones. Or do like me and tape another 16gb sdcard under your battery cover(fits perfectly on top of the sim card with a lil hanging out over the battery). Flash away. Also...... we are all posting in a thread that is in the wrong section
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Okay, so you all CWM fans jsut might have agained a new member to the fan club. But i got a question. I have a US HD2. which partion should be best for me?
The title pretty much sums it up... im running MDJ's CM7 2.6 (DFT version) and Im happy with it the way it is but i kinda wanna try MIUI, but i wanna be able to restore it if i dont like the new rom
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The title pretty much sums it up... im running MDJ's CM7 2.6 (DFT version) and Im happy with it the way it is but i kinda wanna try MIUI, but i wanna be able to restore it if i dont like the new rom
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I may be mistaken, but I believe MagDLR has its own backup/restore function built-in.
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I may be mistaken, but I believe MagDLR has its own backup/restore function built-in.
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hmmmm... if this is the case can you (or anyone) explain how to use it?
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hmmmm... if this is the case can you (or anyone) explain how to use it?
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My HD2 is in the shop right now, so I can't explain without it here in front of me. From my memory alone, I believe there's an option in the Magdlr menu to backup/restore. It may be under Services. If it's not there, then I totally made up that backup function. The next best thing you can do is to use a backup software like Titanium/MyBackup.
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The title pretty much sums it up... im running MDJ's CM7 2.6 (DFT version) and Im happy with it the way it is but i kinda wanna try MIUI, but i wanna be able to restore it if i dont like the new rom
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No it can't be.
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Yes it can be. I used daf roms for a while, and in clockwork, choose backup / restore and it will take an image of the partitions, including the ext if memory serves,, which can then be later restored. But you gotta keep the partitions the same size or bigger else it wont fit when you restore.(or maybe it does re write the partitions,I never tested it)
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Yes it can be. I used daf roms for a while, and in clockwork, choose backup / restore and it will take an image of the partitions, including the ext if memory serves,, which can then be later restored. But you gotta keep the partitions the same size or bigger else it wont fit when you restore.(or maybe it does re write the partitions,I never tested it)
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Problem is that he is missing CWM and needs to install it prior to trying new ROMs, which will wipe any ROM he currently has before he has a chance to back it up.
ahhhh hadnt spotted that bit, my oversight. How about the cwm that boots from sd?, suppose that depends whether the nand rom he flashed has the recovery partition,,,
bummer. thanks for the input guys
You could do a full backup using titanium (or whatever its called), then just reflash your current daf rom, but including the recovery.img file from the clockwork files, and using the clockwork flash.cfg, making sure it is creating a system partition big enough for the system.img from the daf rom.
that way you sneakily apply cwm and keep your daf rom, which you restore the backup of, then enter cwm and voila, you can use backup restore.
There is also a converter app to convert daf roms to cwm, you could do it that way,,, backup, wipe, magldr,clockwork,convert daf rom to cwm, flash it, restore backup.
Might also wanna update to latest magldr whilst ya doing that..
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ahhhh hadnt spotted that bit, my oversight. How about the cwm that boots from sd?, suppose that depends whether the nand rom he flashed has the recovery partition,,,
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Yes, this will work, even if you don't have the recovery partition. You get an error message when CWM boots, but the backup/restore still works fine. Just setup the CWM files in the SD card and boot AD SD from MAGLDR.
I Tryed to put a different Android Rom on my phone but couldn't do it so I put my old Rom back on . But now most of my apps aren't working just keeps saying unexpected error.
Can anyone help me pls
Regards
Iain
your post is incredibly void of details. please start with some basics (like what rom, what apps, etc.) take the guess work out of trying to help you.
often, reflashing the rom can help just to begin....
iainbp said:
I Tryed to put a different Android Rom on my phone but couldn't do it so I put my old Rom back on . But now most of my apps aren't working just keeps saying unexpected error.
Can anyone help me pls
Regards
Iain
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Well considering you expect us to use our physic powers (which nobody has) Ill try and guess your problem.
It sounds like you didnt properly install your new rom. When you install a new rom you need to a clean install to a extent, Either a FULL clean install, meaning you task29 (wipe) your nand and start over or you wipe data/factory reset and clean caches like dalvik cache in the advanced menu or CWM.
You will also need to full format your SD card with Panasonic SDFomatter (FULL>Overwite and size adjustment).
You dont need to lose any data like apps/games as you can back them up with Titanium Backup.
You need to do this otherwise data gets carried over to next installation which can cause issues.
If you want a more precise answer you need to at least give us information we can work on like..
SD or NAND???
Specific roms/builds???
Apps that dont work???
Did you do clean installs???