Now we have root on ARC, its high time we overclock it...
SetCpu doesn't work...
Can someone provide a comprehensive tutorial on overclocking and benchmarking ARC...???
First you need a custom kernel
and search..there's already a thread for this.
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And also setcpu does work
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festa20 is right setcpu is working on ARC.
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festa20 is right setcpu is working on ARC.
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Will try once again.. By the way whats the frequency you set your cpu on ???
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Will try once again.. By the way whats the frequency you set your cpu on ???
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With "setCPU works" they just mean it works. you can't go above 1Ghz that's how it is for now.
Please, edit the tittle.
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With "setCPU works" they just mean it works. you can't go above 1Ghz that's how it is for now.
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Exactly thats what I observed... That simply means it isn't workig as it should...!!!
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That's because you don't know how setCPU works apparently
It works perfectly, setCPU allow you to modify the frequency of the processor within the range allowed by the kernel.
So once again, we need a custom kernel that modifies the voltage and frequencies allowed for setCPU to go higher than 1Ghz.
Just curious why do you wan't to overclock the phone, is it to slow?
What will happen if you overclock:
- higher battery drain
- Phone gets really hot
- it makes the cpu unstable
I never overclocked my phones and even the hero still runs fast.
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That's because you don't know how setCPU works apparently
It works perfectly, setCPU allow you to modify the frequency of the processor within the range allowed by the kernel.
So once again, we need a custom kernel that modifies the voltage and frequencies allowed for setCPU to go higher than 1Ghz.
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The title says, "OverClocking"... I don't want to my cpu to work at lower freqs... I need overclocking...
Besides we r not here to discuss setCpu...
Waiting for custom Kernel...!!!
yup guys setcpu is working in our Arc in terms of 'battery saving' for now
overclocking is for later (or sooner i hope)
The MSM8255 can be overclocked to 1.8GHz on the Desire HD. I'll try to make an overclock kernel this week, but it's definately more work than I thought.
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If u know how to make a kernal go ahead so I can use more cpu but it works anyway the development isnt all too good at the minute but will be hopefully then we will have roms and hopefully kernals but u cant ***** about things if you cant try things your self just my opinion
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The MSM8255 can be overclocked to 1.8GHz on the Desire HD. I'll try to make an overclock kernel this week, but it's definately more work than I thought.
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And the dhd can run at 1998 ghz lol just correcting lol obviously its not the best of things to run at this but people do
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With "setCPU works" they just mean it works. you can't go above 1Ghz that's how it is for now.
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Yes you are right the maximum is 1024 cant go any further i didn't know that he meant to go above 1024
before open such threads you should know about overclocking, of course setcpu wont enable overclock with stock kernel, why should it???
Speed is something which we always want more .. If we get Dual Core with 1.2Ghz still we need to over to push the limit. That's human nature ....
I have got overclocked Xperia Neo and when it was on 1.8 ghz it was 1. stable 2. cold 3. and really fast! but when you start to play somethink yes then it is really hot and it drain a battery too much I think oc is good.
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So I just opened up is monitor and happened to go to the processor tab and discovered that the second core was underclocked to 456MHz with the governor set to conservative. Now my xoom is flying. Its great.
Step by step:
Open os monitor (im on tiamat 2.2.2)
Go to misc tab
Tap on more next to CPU
Change it to the settings you want
???
Profit
Let me know if you have any success with this.
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Just ran Antutu to do some benches and noticed on my cpu usage bar that only one core was used in the benchmarking process, except for reading/writing to the sdcard which did use both cores.
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Good lookin. Ill have to check mine out now
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Over night my core got underclocked again. So im thinking its the OS doing this to save battery when it doesn't absolutely need that core.
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Worked like a Charm
d3athsd00r said:
So I just opened up is monitor and happened to go to the processor tab and discovered that the second core was underclocked to 456MHz with the governor set to conservative. Now my xoom is flying. Its great.
Step by step:
Open os monitor (im on tiamat 2.2.2)
Go to misc tab
Tap on more next to CPU
Change it to the settings you want
???
Profit
Let me know if you have any success with this.
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Thanks on this one, I had no issues and checked quadrant and got a personal high of 3796 I really don't understand why the Xoom gets such a bad rep, I love mine and to this day still able to find new things to learn about it.
-NooRotic
Both cores running at full clock on stock.
mcnob said:
Both cores running at full clock on stock.
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I was running Rogue's 1.4.1 kernel and it was underclocking the second core. Now I'm back on Tiamat kernel and it isn't underclocked.
Seems to be kernel specific.
d3athsd00r said:
I was running Rogue's 1.4.1 kernel and it was underclocking the second core. Now I'm back on Tiamat kernel and it isn't underclocked.
Seems to be kernel specific.
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ooh i wouldn't say so... i'm using rogue 1.4.1 and both cores are the same freq.
Lizzo said:
ooh i wouldn't say so... i'm using rogue 1.4.1 and both cores are the same freq.
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Bah. Idk then. I saw some people complaining about it elsewhere but didn't take the time to find anything out.
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I started this thread because i want to be able to use Sparksco kernel v14 but it freezes when its set to 1.0GHZ I been running v10 as my daily kernel and its bottomline on my top list of kernels. Any help will be much appreciated, im on the latest nightly CM255, i had to revert back to v10 because i need speed to check emails and surf the internet...If theres another update for the V14 in the future i hope that can be a fix or its probably my setup that prevents me from reaching any higher speeds, overall Sparksco you the man!!! By the way ICS devs yall get mad props peace...
I use sparks v14 kernel on cm nightly 255 clocked right under 1ghz using smartass governer no problem. I did a full wipe of everything, and formatted system before install of everything of course. Edit: I clocked it to 2ghz and no freezes here. Did you do a full wipe before the install of the ROM/kernel?
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Hey sparksco, luv your kernels, can we get smartass2 included?
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Wrong forum buddy. This is a development section.
This belongs in Q&A
Just for future reference.
notsointeresting said:
Wrong forum buddy. This is a development section.
This belongs in Q&A
Just for future reference.
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I'm notsointeresting in hearing what u got to say but I get the point XDA supervisor...
peanjr said:
I use sparks v14 kernel on cm nightly 255 clocked right under 1ghz using smartass governer no problem. I did a full wipe of everything, and formatted system before install of everything of course. Edit: I clocked it to 2ghz and no freezes here. Did you do a full wipe before the install of the ROM/kernel?
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I'm going to have to give that a shot homie...
Kernel v14 is more geared for battery saving. I haven't updated the voltages yet because I'm not compiling gingerbread anymore, rather been working on getting a stable ICS rom build before I do more work on it. As soon as we get ICS gingerbread will be a thing of the past. Kernel v14 works good for some and v10 for others. I like v14 because of the battery I've been able to get on 122mhz min and 998mhz max. But if you up the min to the next highest setting (230mhz) you shouldn't get any lockups. Or even try 307mhz.
Edit: looks like 307mhz min is the only clock speed that allows me to overclock to 2ghz and not have any lockups. I'm also on cm nightly 255 pzguzman, and I always keep it on smartass governor.
P.S. The mods should be able to move this thread no problem without removing the comments or thread.
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Yeah, forgot to mention as sparks said, at 2ghz the min is at 307mhz.
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sparksco said:
Kernel v14 is more geared for battery saving. I haven't updated the voltages yet because I'm not compiling gingerbread anymore, rather been working on getting a stable ICS rom build before I do more work on it. As soon as we get ICS gingerbread will be a thing of the past. Kernel v14 works good for some and v10 for others. I like v14 because of the battery I've been able to get on 122mhz min and 998mhz max. But if you up the min to the next highest setting (230mhz) you shouldn't get any lockups. Or even try 307mhz.
Edit: looks like 307mhz min is the only clock speed that allows me to overclock to 2ghz and not have any lockups. I'm also on cm nightly 255 pzguzman, and I always keep it on smartass governor.
P.S. The mods should be able to move this thread no problem without removing the comments or thread.
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Oh okay i see Sparksco thanks for clarifying the setup, i dont mean to steer anybody in the wrong direction especially from working on a ICS BUILD which is the most highly anticipated OS for android. But im going to flash v14 and try out the setting and will get back and let you know thanx homie...
No luck but its amazing how you guys achieve the speeds... Tried the settings but my phone cant handle the pressure lol...Im gonna stick with this kernel tho... My bad for posting this thread in the wrong section its a rookie mistake...
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Yeah, forgot to mention as sparks said, at 2ghz the min is at 307mhz.
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It worked i only needed to do a full wipe, thanx homie...
By the way Sparksco i got your setup on my rom, fully functional overclocked at the max with no feezes, thanx homie...
YOU'RE USING THE WRONG GOVERNOR MIN/MAX SETTINGS
For example:
IF I want to get 2ghz out of my phone I use the performance governor and use min/max of 2ghz.
OR:
I would use:
Gov: Smartass
Min CPU: 300mhz
Max CPU: 1.5ghz
You would freeze too if you were a CPU constantly going from 100mhz to 2000mhz all the time!
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By the way Sparksco i got your setup on my my rom, fully functional overclocked at the max with no feezes, thanx homie...
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Glad you got it working.
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jefftet said:
Hey sparksco, luv your kernels, can we get smartass2 included?
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Smartass2 was made for the HTC Sensation which is a dual core gsm phone much like the Evo 3D (but cdma instead). I could never get it to clock passed 1.4ghz so I don't think it likes our phones much. It's a great concept but the normal old smartass still works much better for the shift.
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FWIW I am hitting 2.0Ghz with no lockups or anything. I previously had been using ScaryStable for a while and anything past 1.6Ghz would lock right up nearly immediately.
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FWIW I am hitting 2.0Ghz with no lockups or anything. I previously had been using ScaryStable for a while and anything past 1.6Ghz would lock right up nearly immediately.
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Again, it depends on the governor and the min cpu. I ran scary stable at 1.9ghz for 24 hours+ straight, no lockups.
for the heck of it I ran it @ the min of like 1something hz for the low and 2.0 max just to see how it ran, and it was solid.
danibri82 said:
for the heck of it I ran it @ the min of like 1something hz for the low and 2.0 max just to see how it ran, and it was solid.
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I understand but say you ran scary at min 100mhz and max 1.9ghz with a gov of ondemand, that would freeze for sure on any phone.
VICODAN said:
I understand but say you ran scary at min 100mhz and max 1.9ghz with a gov of ondemand, that would freeze for sure on any phone.
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I think what he's saying is that he ran this kernel (pershoot v14) with a low min and a high max and it ran fine.
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Hello,
Is it possible to overclock and underclock the galaxy note without custom kernel?
I have root but standart kernel.
Thanks for the help
regards
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gofwar said:
Hello,
Is it possible to overclock the galaxy note without custom kernel?
I have root but standart kernel.
Thanks for the help
Best regard
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Yes you can use Tegrak Overclock (Ultimate) from the market, works on stock kernels
But be very carefull with your voltages, you are warned!
Do you maybe have good settings for the program?
is it possible to underclock to?
Can i leave the voltage standart and only set the cpu to 1.5 or 1.6
Thank you
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gofwar said:
Do you maybe have good settings for the program?
is it possible to underclock to?
Thank you
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You might want to look in the kernel threads (FM kernel, Abyss, etc) in development, there is enough info concerning your question, and yes you can underclock with tegrak.
With tegrak you can use any cpu speed you want, is not fixed to a few settings.
I don't recommend overclocking
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I don't recommend overclocking
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I think i wait with overclocking, its fast enough but sometimes its fun to tweak, but its to mutch risk i think, so after i downloaded the app and set it to 1.5, i did set it to default via the app and removed it
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One useful thing to do is underclock and undervolt. This phone works perfectl in 1.0ghz with -50 voltage on all clocks and a maximum of 500mnz with screen off, and itll save u a lot of battery.
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gee2012 said:
Yes you can use Tegrak Overclock (Ultimate) from the market, works on stock kernels
But be very carefull with your voltages, you are warned!
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I didn't know you could overclock on stock kernal, thanks for that.
I have installed Tegrak and am run at 1.5Ghz from now on. If I notice any issues at all I will report back.
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I don't recommend overclocking
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Why not?
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AdzUK said:
I didn't know you could overclock on stock kernal, thanks for that.
I have installed Tegrak and am run at 1.5Ghz from now on. If I notice any issues at all I will report back.
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What voltage are you using?
i want to overclock but when i read the message be carefull with the voltage it scared me a bit, dont want to destroy it so fast haha.
is it faster on 1.5 or almost not?
@viamonte: do you mean underclocking the slowest cpu speed when it is in deep sleep?
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gofwar said:
What voltage are you using?
i want to overclock but when i read the message be carefull with the voltage it scared me a bit, dont want to destroy it so fast haha.
is it faster on 1.5 or almost not?
@viamonte: do you mean underclocking the slowest cpu speed when it is in deep sleep?
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I've not touched the voltage. If my s2 could handle 1.5ghz I'm sure the Note will be just fine.
Why would you want to overclock the fastest phone ever available?
Yuretsz said:
Why would you want to overclock the fastest phone ever available?
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Why not? Its never fast enough haha.
I have mine now on standart 1.4, when i think its to slow then i wil overclock it to 1.6 or flash a custom rom and overclock it to 1.7.
Does somebody now what the speed is from the gpu?
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i've set my cpu to 1.6 and didn't touch the voltages, i left it at 1250mv and 1100mv for core and internal voltages respectively. been on this setting for 2 days now and i haven't had any problems so far. but i was wondering with that cpu frequency is it possible to undervolt?
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Why would you want to overclock the fastest phone ever available?
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Because you can?
Why wouldn't you?
My PC is a 2.66Ghz which has been running at 4.0Ghz since day 1. Like I said, if more power is available at no risk, and absolutely no extra cost, then the question isn't why, the question is WHY NOT?
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Because you can?
Why wouldn't you?
My PC is a 2.66Ghz which has been running at 4.0Ghz since day 1. Like I said, if more power is available at no risk, and absolutely no extra cost, then the question isn't why, the question is WHY NOT?
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True! My PC is a Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz which has has been overclocked to 4.7GHz.
Why? Because you can as you said! It's simply to make an insanely fast product run even faster!!
Is there such thing as a safe overclock speed? Will my phone blow up for running it at 1.2 on a daily basis? (I searched for this topic but couldn't find anything specific to the glacier)
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The cpu in this phone overclocks well. 1.2 definitely won't hurt it. I've known people who ran everyday at 1.5.
I have an excellent cable internet service, with wireless. As such, I don't notice a real difference when I'm on WiFi. I wouldn't want to overclock anymore than 1.2 to 1.4
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jjbadd385 said:
I have an excellent cable internet service, with wireless. As such, I don't notice a real difference when I'm on WiFi. I wouldn't want to overclock anymore than 1.2 to 1.4
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Hmmm, what does web service gotta do with overclocking the devices cpu?
coupetastic-droid said:
Hmmm, what does web service gotta do with overclocking the devices cpu?
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I was wondering the same thing
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I'm just referring to the overall speed and performance of the handset. I haven't noticed any better performance with my phone being overclocked...isn't that the purpose of overclocking, to increase speed & performance? If not I am misunderstanding the purpose of overclocking?
I was just saying that with browsing and overall usage on my WiFi connection its hard to notice any changes whether I'm running at 1 GHz or 1.5 GHz ....
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Overclocking doesn't speed up internet service though. It just speeds up scrolling through pages, windows, opening applications and overall performance within the applications and device.
I would get SetCPU, then you probably are fine up to 1.4 ghz. I really can't recommend pushing it higher because there isn't a noticable performance increase. I use SetCPU and i am clocked at around 122Mhz-1.3Ghz with a screen off profile of 122-768Mhz and a temperature profile of 32C> 122Mhz-1.0Ghz.
I know, a lot to take in but i get really good battery life with that stuff. If you get SetCPU, experiment.
Also, here are the take away messages.
1. USE SETCPU, ITS AWESOME
2.DON'T PUSH IT TO 2GHZ. YOU WILL FRY YOUR MOTHERBOARD
---If i have help, well you know the button to push---
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I would get SetCPU, then you probably are fine up to 1.4 ghz. I really can't recommend pushing it higher because there isn't a noticable performance increase. I use SetCPU and i am clocked at around 122Mhz-1.3Ghz with a screen off profile of 122-768Mhz and a temperature profile of 32C> 122Mhz-1.0Ghz.
I know, a lot to take in but i get really good battery life with that stuff. If you get SetCPU, experiment.
Also, here are the take away messages.
1. USE SETCPU, ITS AWESOME
2.DON'T PUSH IT TO 2GHZ. YOU WILL FRY YOUR MOTHERBOARD
---If i have help, well you know the button to push---
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Lol I looked for the free download from xda for setcpu and found the thread but not the download. Will look harder now though!
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Lol, its a paid app, i can't encourage pirating,,,Its only 2 or so dollars though so buy it and support the devs
It's free or was on xda. The developer puts the free version on here. No pirating.
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Lol, its a paid app, i can't encourage pirating,,,Its only 2 or so dollars though so buy it and support the devs
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Dude its free to xda members from what I hear but is a paid/donate version on market. If only I had a credit card...
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I prefer nofrills cpu control. It's also free.
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I have been running at 1.2 for a year now and no problems whatsoever. Actually, what I have found has helped performance was to set the minimum CPU a little higher. It allows for a little less lag while your CPU is "spinning up." (I mean at 230, not at 500 or something)
1.2 is a very stable Overclock. You shouldn't run into any problems with that setting. Anything above 1.5 I wouldn't mess with, and you probably wouldn't see much of a real world speed increase from it anyway.
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1.2 is a very stable Overclock. You shouldn't run into any problems with that setting. Anything above 1.5 I wouldn't mess with, and you probably wouldn't see much of a real world speed increase from it anyway.
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+1
Not to mention battery life goes in the toilet at high clockspeeds
Hellou.. i have a question..
I am searching for daily use rom..that has everything worling perfectly.. so with no bugs.
Which one you recomend?
Thanks a lot!!
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I am also searching for some guide how to instal cuatom rom.. because i havent found one.
Phone is not rooted and still with android 2.1 eclair..
I have never done anything on samsung's phones.. so i need some help.
And thaaanks a lot!!
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papaver said:
I am also searching for some guide how to instal cuatom rom.. because i havent found one.
Phone is not rooted and still with android 2.1 eclair..
I have never done anything on samsung's phones.. so i need some help.
And thaaanks a lot!!
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Galaxy 3 has officially froyo upgrade but we have cm7/Gb and now cm10 developed by marcell;but it has some bug like camera and video recording but these are stable and daily usable rom.
Flashing guide:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873645
Samsung Galaxy 3 (I5801/I5800) Flashing Guide
Rom and kernel list for galaxy 3:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234591
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Hello.. thank you very much!
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I am using kyrillos v9.6 overclocked to 1ghz. It is fast and stable and everything works
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schnelle said:
I am using kyrillos v9.6 overclocked to 1ghz. It is fast and stable and everything works
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Thanks..
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I'm also on Kyrillos v9.6 JPU OC for daily use. I can totally recommend it, everything works fine, no crashes or strange behaviour whatsoever.
sfand said:
I'm also on Kyrillos v9.6 JPU OC for daily use. I can totally recommend it, everything works fine, no crashes or strange behaviour whatsoever.
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Thank you..
So i think this will be the one )))
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papaver said:
Thank you..
So i think this will be the one )))
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Don't forget to install setcpu after flashing the rom. My recommendations:
Min 200mhz max 600 for great battery life but slow phone
Min 200 or 300mhz max 800 for average performance
Min 300mhz max 1ghz for good performance and so-so battery life
My phone works stable even on 1.1 and 1.2 ghz but then I get big battery drain.
Another tip: default phone dialer is very slow/laggy. I use exDialer from playstore instead
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schnelle said:
Don't forget to install setcpu after flashing the rom. My recommendations:
Min 200mhz max 600 for great battery life but slow phone
Min 200 or 300mhz max 800 for average performance
Min 300mhz max 1ghz for good performance and so-so battery life
My phone works stable even on 1.1 and 1.2 ghz but then I get big battery drain.
Another tip: default phone dialer is very slow/laggy. I use exDialer from playstore instead
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Thanks for advice.
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about overclock
iv tried overclock my phone to 1ghz but im kind coward to do it, whats the worst that could happend if you do it?
lfpaulinp said:
iv tried overclock my phone to 1ghz but im kind coward to do it, whats the worst that could happend if you do it?
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Battery will drain faster, phone will be warmer. Some CPU's can't handle 1GHz so your phone may lag and you will have to change to a non-oc kernel.
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For me purumod3.0 is too good
It is non overclocked... simply fast ..no lags... battery charging lasts for >36 hrs depends on ur usage.... impresses with his work(jason)
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