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Im now torn on whether to keep it or send it back. I got a brown sim free one delivered on friday morning after.much delibration and hesitation.
The hardware is very nice and solidly built...at least mine was. No gaps or anything of the sort.
Android and sense are both great...love them and I love the market place, which in my opinion is superior to the app store since.most apps are free and policy is less...draconian
I want to keep the device I really do.but its just not polished.enough and i know once the novelty wears off and reality sets in i'll most likely be frustrated when using it daily
I've noticed several issues:
-The keyboard works well for the most part with little lag but the spacebar sensitivity/responsiveness could be better. I still make more errors than I do on my iPhone as it loves giving me a period instead of a space
-During calls there's this annoying hiss that gives me a headache.
-Also during calls, sound gets distorted.if you raise the.volume beyond a.certain point and it makesit impossible to hear the other party properly
-Lags/stutters although mine doesn't seem as bad as others have pointed out. Just 1-2sec lags/jerkiness. However it becomes slightly more apparent when browsing the web and viewing photo albums.
-Finally music playback (which is very important to me) kinda sucks. It stutters even when you're not doing anything at all and sound quality is inferiorto the iPhone, very 'closed', poor 'dynamics', relatively weak max volume and no EQ whichis a big setback as mytracks are all EQ encoded> Now i could get revert to an iPod but that defeats the purpose of.an all-in-one smartphone
Anyway like I said I really wantto.keepthe phone but I wantedto know how HTC handles their updates. Apple is very.much on the ball when it.comes to updates in my experience,they optimize, fix bugs and.add.features so you know you're well covered. Does HTC do.the.same.or doyou have to.suck it up and.live with what is shipped to you
If HTC do it like Apple then i'll keep the phone. Otherwise, it means my switch to Android will haveto wait a while yet
Ps the reason my post reads.funny is because.I'm.typing this from.the device and.going back to fix every error.is a.PITA
Regarding the keyboard, have you tried calibrating it? Press the settings button on the keyboard, -> Text Input -> Calibration tool.
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Regarding the keyboard, have you tried calibrating it? Press the settings button on the keyboard, -> Text Input -> Calibration tool.
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Yeah i have done the keyboard calibration which is why i'm surprised its still finicky. *Shrug*
-Finally music playback (which is very important to me) kinda sucks. It stutters even when you're not doing anything at all and sound quality is inferiorto the iPhone, very 'closed', poor 'dynamics', relatively weak max volume and no EQ whichis a big setback as mytracks are all EQ encoded> Now i could get revert to an iPod but that defeats the purpose of.an all-in-one smartphone
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That is a breaker for me. The purpose of my looking into android phone is to replace my iphone because I'm sick of the proprietary media expience ala itunes and the ipod player. I want to just plug my phone via usb into a puter (or copy to SDcard) and play the music or radio show directly from some file manager. Android does this well for, at least it did on the g1 I tested with no lag. An all in one device should be that...the iphone is that, if you can stand going thru the hoops to do what should be simple tasks.
The hero seems like a decent machine but there are one of two things (maybe both) that make it seem like an unfinished product: the interface shouldn't be laggy as it is and we shouldn't have to be fussing with standard widgets to get it to function smoothly as it should. I can see tweaking to make it run better than normal, but "normal" being laggy and "smooth" being tweaked isn't a good start. I don't know if this is the hardware limitation or a coding issue. HTC should have either done more testing on the software side or should have including better hardware specs than the magic since the hero is suppose to be an "upgrade" from the magic. I was about to get a hero, but there are too many mixed reviews to make it worth $600. I wanna ditch my iphone 2G for android and still have a 3.5mm jack at the top of the device...is that so hard to accomplish? Guess I'm holding out till later this year to see what else is placed on the table. I almost got a 288 magic but for that money, I might as well save for a better phone that has the 3.5mm jack.
If you are really that annoyed by it now and know yourself well enough to know that you'll be really pissed later after daily use, I would just sell it now on ebay or in the XDA market place while the selling is good. Sure, you could hold out to see what the software update is gonna do...but without more details on that update you're still risking afore mentioned buyers remorse.
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sound quality is inferiorto the iPhone, very 'closed', poor 'dynamics', relatively weak max volume
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Fair enough if you don't like the phone, get rid of it but if you want your music louder than Hero gives you you're gonna have to start thinking about a hearing aid in the future! At least based on my Hero, which is loud!
PS, I trust you'll change your user name to El Pod once you've gone back?
Have you tried typing in landscape mode with 2 thumbs I find it really quick. the portrait mode does suck a bit. also remember there are new updates coming.
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That is a breaker for me. The purpose of my looking into android phone is to replace my iphone because I'm sick of the proprietary media expience ala itunes and the ipod player. I want to just plug my phone via usb into a puter (or copy to SDcard) and play the music or radio show directly from some file manager. Android does this well for, at least it did on the g1 I tested with no lag. An all in one device should be that...the iphone is that, if you can stand going thru the hoops to do what should be simple tasks.
The hero seems like a decent machine but there are one of two things (maybe both) that make it seem like an unfinished product: the interface shouldn't be laggy as it is and we shouldn't have to be fussing with standard widgets to get it to function smoothly as it should. I can see tweaking to make it run better than normal, but "normal" being laggy and "smooth" being tweaked isn't a good start. I don't know if this is the hardware limitation or a coding issue. HTC should have either done more testing on the software side or should have including better hardware specs than the magic since the hero is suppose to be an "upgrade" from the magic. I was about to get a hero, but there are too many mixed reviews to make it worth $600. I wanna ditch my iphone 2G for android and still have a 3.5mm jack at the top of the device...is that so hard to accomplish? Guess I'm holding out till later this year to see what else is placed on the table. I almost got a 288 magic but for that money, I might as well save for a better phone that has the 3.5mm jack.
If you are really that annoyed by it now and know yourself well enough to know that you'll be really pissed later after daily use, I would just sell it now on ebay or in the XDA market place while the selling is good. Sure, you could hold out to see what the software update is gonna do...but without more details on that update you're still risking afore mentioned buyers remorse.
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Agreed and yeah...i'm starting to think this might be the way things end up unfortunately
tatwamasi said:
Fair enough if you don't like the phone, get rid of it but if you want your music louder than Hero gives you you're gonna have to start thinking about a hearing aid in the future! At least based on my Hero, which is loud!
PS, I trust you'll change your user name to El Pod once you've gone back?
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Its not my hearing i've never reached the max volume on my iPods/iPhones but frequently have to do so with the Hero. Maybe its specific to my unit.
robboy said:
Have you tried typing in landscape mode with 2 thumbs I find it really quick. the portrait mode does suck a bit. also remember there are new updates coming.
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I typed my post exclusively in landscape mode. I wouldn't even try portrait...unless for short text messages
I will admit that I'm quite confused regarding the lag issues. It does not seem to effect everyone and the ones it does effect consider a problem that if it were solved, the phone would be a fantastic upgrade from an iphone 3g or 2g. At times I hear it is just the live widgets, other times I hear it is just the software in general during media playback and browsing. I honestly don't know what to think and would love to have a means to test a hero as it is now. I'm not gonna upgrade to a 3gs...I'm still considering the hero but I'm going to wait for the software update and to see how things process for it on xda. I really see the potential in android and that is where I would like to stay if all works out..but I'm not so clear about the hero. Given my options and my needs, the the lag can be address with code optimization, then I think the hero is the best choice for me at this point. we'll see. if you're interested in selling it, let know price via PM. If you're any where near south central PA, perhaps I could give the thing a test run first if you don't mind.
I had the Hero, I could wait to get it. I was like a five year old waiting for santa! Anyway, bit dissapointed in it so reluctantly took it back and bought a PAYG iphone 3GS from O2.
Installed redSnow to jailbreak, then ultrasn0w to unlock and now i'm using it on Vodafone. Thank god for the iphone dev team.
The iphone just kicks the ass of the Hero all over the place. Music playback, Video Playback.. signal strength... battery....multitasking...everything. And if you think you might miss out on sense UI check this out:
http://justflikwalk.deviantart.com/art/iVillain-Beta-128791945
http://modmyi.com/forums/attachment...1247179088-beta-release-ivillain-img_0053.png
Jailbroken iphone with 3rd party apps is just unbeatable....game over. iphone wins again! Maybe Android next year?
I agree crappy music playback is terrible. speed is OK, quite laggy compared to an iphone 3G but bearable. Apparantly a rom update will arrive soon.
I'm thinking of returning to an iphone as well. No equalizer is like it's 1999.
mwatson said:
Jailbroken iphone with 3rd party apps is just unbeatable....game over. iphone wins again! Maybe Android next year?
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Maybe so but its also piracy
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Maybe so but its also piracy
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....and you have a problem with this?
The iphone just kicks the ass of the Hero all over the place. Music playback, Video Playback.. signal strength... battery....multitasking...everything. And if you think you might miss out on sense UI check this out:
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I'll concede that a JB and unlocked iphone is pretty nice as far as apps and ease of us is concerned but the one thing it needs that it won't ever have is the ability to directly transfer files to the phone and manipulate easily. IE, copy a plain MP3 to the phone and play it in itunes or some 3rd party player without having to sync to itunes. the iphone is meant to appeal to folks that just want it to work and the iphone dev team has designed their stuff to match that philosphy. Unfortunately, the linux on iphone project, which was the great hope of getting android on the device isn't going anywhere fast due to lack of drivers for the hardware and what not. The Hero COULD have been a match but it isn't because it isn't consistently a postitive experience. This is why I'm waiting and am a little disappointed that the hero is in the state it is.
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I'll concede that a JB and unlocked iphone is pretty nice as far as apps and ease of us is concerned but the one thing it needs that it won't ever have is the ability to directly transfer files to the phone and manipulate easily. IE, copy a plain MP3 to the phone and play it in itunes or some 3rd party player without having to sync to itunes. the iphone is meant to appeal to folks that just want it to work and the iphone dev team has designed their stuff to match that philosphy. Unfortunately, the linux on iphone project, which was the great hope of getting android on the device isn't going anywhere fast due to lack of drivers for the hardware and what not. The Hero COULD have been a match but it isn't because it isn't consistently a postitive experience. This is why I'm waiting and am a little disappointed that the hero is in the state it is.
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you can transfer all sorts of files uising wifi discover. It turns the iphone into a wireless usb stick. If you transfer an mp3 it'll play it on the phone. Thats what i do. There is al alternative to itunes on Cydia. Even if you couldn't do that, the sacrifice is a small price to pay when you concider the iphone 3GS is just so slick.
Why can't other manufactures achieve what Apple has done here? Did they back engineer the iphone from a UFO wreck in Navada? BTW i'm no iphone fanboy. I've had HTC devices from the first orange SPV in 2003 right up to The Hero. There is no getting away from it, Palm, Samsung, HTC whoever just can't get close to Apple right now.
Have you tried using some better quality headphones? The ones supplied are rubbish and the ipod head phones are well......appalling (sound leakage to annoy everyone aroundyou and poor bass reproduction)!. Get some phones with a high sensitivity and no sound leakage you'll be surprised The biggest thing is that you don't need to crank up the volume for them to sound great and your ears will thank you for it
Noise isolation headphones are recommended (Sennheiser, Shure, Ultimate Ears) for the hero and for all mp3 players.
I'm using a pair of Ultimate Ears Metro Fi 220s
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Have you tried using some better quality headphones? The ones supplied are rubbish and the ipod head phones are well......appalling (sound leakage to annoy everyone aroundyou and poor bass reproduction)!. Get some phones with a high sensitivity and no sound leakage you'll be surprised The biggest thing is that you don't need to crank up the volume for them to sound great and your ears will thank you for it
Noise isolation headphones are recommended (Sennheiser, Shure, Ultimate Ears) for the hero and for all mp3 players.
I'm using a pair of Ultimate Ears Metro Fi 220s
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I never even took the stock earbuds out of the box. Been alternating between V-Moda Vibe Duos and Bose Quiet Comforts
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The iphone just kicks the ass of the Hero all over the place.....multitasking...
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Multitasking? Are you kidding? That's the reason I never got an iPhone, it doesn't multitask at all.
Plus, music playback is crap on all handsets. I'll always have a stand-alone media player because I care how my music sounds so yes, music playback is crap on the Hero but it's crap on the iPod (and iPhone) too.
And sense UI on the iPhone? Not quite. A few icons copied from the Hero but they aint no widgets.
Each to their own I guess though. I used an iPhone and it just wasn't good enough, too simplified for me. I'm quite techy tho so I like the open source of Android and the customisation etc.
Switchbitch said:
Multitasking? Are you kidding? That's the reason I never got an iPhone, it doesn't multitask at all.
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If you don't count playing music whilst browsing the web or any other task, and background checking your email / calendar sync... but it sure sounds like multitasking to me
And all because you can't choose other apps to have open in the background dosn't mean it can't multitask 'at all'. And lord just look at the Hero (slowwww/laggggg) as a case point why multitasking might not always be the best way to go about a mobile phone operating system.
I don't know if talking about lag is a valid point as I, and many others have experienced no lag at all, even during intense useage.
Personally, I understand that many people are experiencing lag issues but I'm keen to see what happens with this update coming out soon.
And background processing/multitasking is absoultely vital for a smartphone OS.
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Multitasking? Are you kidding? That's the reason I never got an iPhone, it doesn't multitask at all.
Plus, music playback is crap on all handsets. I'll always have a stand-alone media player because I care how my music sounds so yes, music playback is crap on the Hero but it's crap on the iPod (and iPhone) too.
And sense UI on the iPhone? Not quite. A few icons copied from the Hero but they aint no widgets.
Each to their own I guess though. I used an iPhone and it just wasn't good enough, too simplified for me. I'm quite techy tho so I like the open source of Android and the customisation etc.
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Goto Cydia > download "Backgrounder" and multitask as much as you want!
I'm a techy too, but the Hero just doesn't impress. Jailbreak an iphone and become a geeky as you want. Widgets on lock screen and the springboard.
The iphone apps are like a 100 years ahead of android! one day android will be great. Just not today.
Do you guys think after the release of the evo, it will be groundbreaking for android development? Obviously I know anoter device is going to encourage mee people to lean towarda android. But do you think many developers will switch from apple or we will see alot more gaming and high quality apps. I know the app selection on android is growing. But I use an iPod touch around the house and the iPhone and iPod apps are just fuller and more smooth. Yes android has many cool apps and games but facebook for example is just so much weaker than on the iPhone.
I just wanted some speculation, because I like many others will be getting the evo and hope that their will be more apps than apple.
And those iPhone and iPod touch users are really stingy with app/game Ratings. Most apps on android work well and get a 4-5 if they work well. Most of the iPhone apps and games that work very well and smooth only get an average of 3 stars. No that big I just found that weird. If anyone who has an iPod touch check it out.
I don't think it has much to do with the evo, or one phone in particular.
Just the fact that android is growing, VERY fast.
Android has just surpassed iphone in number of users out there in the US.
This, as much as I hate to say it... has alot to do with Verizon, and the TREMENDOUS advertising they are doing with the "droid" line.
I'm sure the EVO will help, as there will be alot of these phones sold, but not one phone in particular.
In short... YES
You should see the quality of apps/games out there increase, just as it did for the iphone. Now that there are more users out there, it will encourage devs to create more apps, which means they get more money
Like the red neck said, Verizon has and will continue to sell way more android phones than Sprint. They are doing a superb job advertising the droid phones. As for the Evo, I think if it has an effect on gaming it will probably be a negative effect. Not enough hardware buttons and lacks a trackball/trackpad.
I wish it had a keyboard.
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Like the red neck said, Verizon has and will continue to sell way more android phones than Sprint. They are doing a superb job advertising the droid phones. As for the Evo, I think if it has an effect on gaming it will probably be a negative effect. Not enough hardware buttons and lacks a trackball/trackpad.
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no. this will revolutionize gaming on phones.
just as the kyocera slyder. which i know most people dont know, but alienware made a specific gamepad for this phone, and around here in ky where people had this phone, sales on that gamepad skyrocketed.
now, there are bt devices that work with android, like my bt keyboard works perfectly set as wii input device, minus special keys like |}}}{:"<>[email protected]#$%^&*() but normal ones work fine. soooo now its up to game devs, like gameloft who complains that android users dont support their games like iphone users do(prolly cause they are effing Blackberry ports) to create better games and add support for BT devices and hopefully get a gamepad out there.
the power in hardware is there. we can only hope and pray that froyo will bring along a much better opengl library for the sdk. in honesty i smell opengl 2.1 (OpenGL ES 2.1, while not yet publicly released, will add royalty-free texture compression scheme with 4 bits per pixel to offer enhanced quality compared to S3TC. This is an optional extension in 2.0 and will be made part of the core for OpenGL ES 2.) which as stated above has not been introduced publically. what a better chance than a revolutionary os release.
awh i dream about these things...goodnight
Storage space is a big problem. If android natively allowed apps to be stored on the sd card then that would help gaming on the android.
If you have a big storage space game then you need to be very cleaver in how you program it. You need to think things through, really plan, and practice proper Software Engineering techniques such as the Unified Process.
Most apps on the Android(and mobile devices in general) demand such a fast turn around that developers just hack them together. There is no time to thoughtfully think things through.
Hello,
With handsets like the Galaxy S series (i9000, Captivate, Vibrant, etc.) and others, it looks like we're at the point where we have the horsepower - processor, RAM, and graphics cards - needed for pro audio software to come out for Android. As it stands though, there is nothing that can match up to multitrack for iOS (a 16-track 44.1/16bit recorder) let alone fourtrack, which is only a four track audio sequencer and which I run on my iPhone 2G.
The market is there, and now the high-powered hardware is there, but the selection of audio apps is meagre at best. Does anyone know of any plans for pro audio software for Android? For that matter, video editing software like iOS 4's iMovie would be great, but we're not seeing that either.
I'm aware that there are programs that have packages of preset loops, as well as an audio multitrack and a video editor that rely on server-side rendering. I'm talking about a native solution for audio editing, sequencing, and/or tracking. I am not a programmer, and I know there are differences between X11 and Android's setup, but with programs like Ardour and Rosegarden for Linux, why can't someone adapt the relevant parts to Android? Even Audacity...
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I've been waiting on an app like this forever. I would definitely but an it if one ever comes out.
Just saw this the other day: http://nomadicwhales.com/wordpress/2010/11/fourtracks-pro-released/
The four track app is a step in the right direction but it's still kinda buggy on my phone when trying to record a second track, etc. I'm assuming that could also very well be due to the fact that i'm still using a 1st gen phone (Sprint Hero)
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Android has lot of latency issues and its really slow compared to iphone os. you can see in your own eyes the first generation iphone has 412mhz and has very little touchscreen, audio and sensor latencies compared to our 1ghz android superphone's huge latencies.
Here is a comparison:
take an iphone(even 1st gen) and a fastest android phone you know side by side
scroll your finger through the app menu or contacts.
the iphone will scroll exactly at your finger position with no latency.
the android phone will scroll with a slight lag.
You can never see a good music app in android because of high audio latency
see Android sdk Issues for more info.
The real problem is the android os which is not really optimized. Lets hope for Icecream Sandwich for good speed.
I am not a iphone fanboy.I really like the android's customizability due to lot of roms. I just want to tell you there are major problems in android.
Sorry for my bad english.
pika2chu said:
Android has lot of latency issues and its really slow compared to iphone os. you can see in your own eyes the first generation iphone has 412mhz and has very little touchscreen, audio and sensor latencies compared to our 1ghz android superphone's huge latencies.
Here is a comparison:
take an iphone(even 1st gen) and a fastest android phone you know side by side
scroll your finger through the app menu or contacts.
the iphone will scroll exactly at your finger position with no latency.
the android phone will scroll with a slight lag.
You can never see a good music app in android because of high audio latency
see Android sdk Issues for more info.
The real problem is the android os which is not really optimized. Lets hope for Icecream Sandwich for good speed.
I am not a iphone fanboy.I really like the android's customizability due to lot of roms. I just want to tell you there are major problems in android.
Sorry for my bad english.
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thanks for your wonderful yet not useful information/opinion !
pika2chu said:
Android has lot of latency issues and its really slow compared to iphone os. you can see in your own eyes the first generation iphone has 412mhz and has very little touchscreen, audio and sensor latencies compared to our 1ghz android superphone's huge latencies.
Here is a comparison:
take an iphone(even 1st gen) and a fastest android phone you know side by side
scroll your finger through the app menu or contacts.
the iphone will scroll exactly at your finger position with no latency.
the android phone will scroll with a slight lag.
You can never see a good music app in android because of high audio latency
see Android sdk Issues for more info.
The real problem is the android os which is not really optimized. Lets hope for Icecream Sandwich for good speed.
I am not a iphone fanboy.I really like the android's customizability due to lot of roms. I just want to tell you there are major problems in android.
Sorry for my bad english.
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Well if really sucks then move one and dont use it.
my opinion is that it works great - considering that hd2 is a winM ... but of course thanks to great developers we have .
pika2chu said:
Android has lot of latency issues and its really slow compared to iphone os...
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I was near to throw my phone away, experimenting with Android on the HD2. Until i found [11 JUN][SD/MAGDLR] MccMBoxmaX GS V6.0 [Desire S] Gingerbread 2.3.3 [Sense 2.1+3.0] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694. With this build, there are no lags, no stuttering and the whole HD2 is running smooth and very quick. Try it an you will have much fun with your HD2. BTW, i am running it from SD-Card.
Why come onto this forum to bash Android? Then you compare it to the iPhone? Comedic.
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Another Apple fanboy troll dear me
Anyone who REALLY knows about smartphones will tell you in no uncertain terms that Android is far superior to the iPhone.
pika2chu said:
Android has lot of latency issues and its really slow compared to iphone os. you can see in your own eyes the first generation iphone has 412mhz and has very little touchscreen, audio and sensor latencies compared to our 1ghz android superphone's huge latencies.
Here is a comparison:
take an iphone(even 1st gen) and a fastest android phone you know side by side
scroll your finger through the app menu or contacts.
the iphone will scroll exactly at your finger position with no latency.
the android phone will scroll with a slight lag.
You can never see a good music app in android because of high audio latency
see Android sdk Issues for more info.
The real problem is the android os which is not really optimized. Lets hope for Icecream Sandwich for good speed.
I am not a iphone fanboy.I really like the android's customizability due to lot of roms. I just want to tell you there are major problems in android.
Sorry for my bad english.
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so you are comparing a hacked os for the hd2 to a fully optomised apple ios build specifically for that device, yeah good one, its nearly as bad as the user koolxxx comparing a stock rom of windows with a custom rom of android and expecting the results to be the same or better in android
I am using a Miui rom and my HD2 is faster and has more possibilities then my colleques at my work. My job: Telecom Expert at a dutch Telecom Company called TRTC Vriezenveen. I can do things a normal Iphone 4 can't do. In my home, the only things i can't do with it are : controlling my washingmachine (no bluetooth in it) and vacuum cleaning (also no bluetooth or wifi in my vacuum cleaner) i have a self made
Vortexbox for .Flac music and i use Twonky Media server and player for movies on my plasma tv. I can control the Vortexbox completely with my HD2. Also XBMC and Twonky i can control completely. in my car i play music from my hd2 via ad2p. .flac quality
@ OP
I'm sorry to say that you are either mistaken, misinformed, using bad roms or smoking some serious crack if you think that Android has bad latency issues.
I agree some roms like DHD ones before you let them settle lag a bit but I haven't experienced any sort of latency at least nothing that stands out anyway.
ok you like the iphone well done sheep,
now on to my point
WHY have you come to the HD2 section which is a Windows Mobile to bash an operating system that was hacked and made to run on a phone that runs a completely different OS????
you my friend FAIL
sframbo said:
I was near to throw my phone away, experimenting with Android on the HD2. Until i found [11 JUN][SD/MAGDLR] MccMBoxmaX GS V6.0 [Desire S] Gingerbread 2.3.3 [Sense 2.1+3.0] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694. With this build, there are no lags, no stuttering and the whole HD2 is running smooth and very quick. Try it an you will have much fun with your HD2. BTW, i am running it from SD-Card.
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how is the battery life dude ? via SD ??
Might be some lag between the two however I have never really used an iphone for long before so I wouldn't know. However it is unfair for you to say that the lag is so bad or much worse in comparison to the iphone. Why? Because android is already so smooth, minus sense. Plus, can a iphone play a 720p Youtube video?
$1 gets you a reply
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Another Apple fanboy troll dear me
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Rolleyes x 2
Well my pc runs Windows 98 quicker than it runs Windows 7.
Doesn't mean that I want to use windows 98 just because it's faster... it's outdated and has a c**p UI.... Just like the iPhone!
Speed isn't everything and I know there are HD2 Android roms out there which are faultless... must be down to an iPhone user not knowing how to install a ROM!
History of an iPhone user:
Day 1: Oh, Shiny toy...
Day 2: Shiny toy play music...
Day 3: Awww, me gotta pay for stuff...
Day 4: Me jailbroke it, me a God...
Day 5: Ummm what now?!?!?!
Day 6: Let's bash other phones since I have just wasted my money on this plastic piece of turd!
Day 7: Take iPhone back on the pretence that it has a fault and get a decent phone!
See, it's easy to bash other phones but as was previosly mentioned, Android WAS NEVER designed to run on the HD2 and it's still a WIP.
I find the OP incredibly anally retentive for ignoring the hard work which has gone into development for this device. I have no latency issues which causes me to log onto a forum and open a new thread just to complain about it - get a life!
My advice to the OP: Stick to a couple of tin cans with string and be happy with what you have!
RANT OVER!
You need to sync the iphone with itunes to play movies or music, that is piece of s#*t phone right off the bat.
I dont own an iphone now and I am not a apple fanboy. I am not talking specifically about hd2. Its really a nice phone.. and I dont blame anyone for this. I am using the latest typhoon cyanogenmod 7 which is too great, I think hd2 is the smoothest android phone i have ever seen due to our chefs...
Basically I was developing an android app similar to smule's ocarina app in iphone. but couldnt make realtime recording and playback of sounds.. It lags about 250ms.. Even i tested in samsung galaxy s. Every android phone lags and has high latency.I defnitely know its not the phone's fault. Its a known issue in android software development..
I didnt yet develop for wp7. i think it wont lag as it is very smooth compared to android.
Even compare it with wp7 and any good nand rom you know.scroll through the screen.. the same phone(hd2) performs more smoothly in wp7.
Now dont say me "I am a wp7 fanboy".
Really sorry for my bad english grammar!
jeroentje25012 said:
I am using a Miui rom and my HD2 is faster and has more possibilities then my colleques at my work. My job: Telecom Expert at a dutch Telecom Company called TRTC Vriezenveen. I can do things a normal Iphone 4 can't do. In my home, the only things i can't do with it are : controlling my washingmachine (no bluetooth in it) and vacuum cleaning (also no bluetooth or wifi in my vacuum cleaner) i have a self made
Vortexbox for .Flac music and i use Twonky Media server and player for movies on my plasma tv. I can control the Vortexbox completely with my HD2. Also XBMC and Twonky i can control completely. in my car i play music from my hd2 via ad2p. .flac quality
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As amazing as it sounds to have the option to control your washing machine from your phone uh what's the point lol or your vacuum cleaner at that matter?
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hahah, i've built a remote controlled robot that can be maneuvered from the phone itself via VNC and by using various internal cameras, sensors and lasers can be deployed to navigate itself to the kitchen and ask whomever is there for a beer + deliver it back to me in the living room. Operating this thing requires 2 hd2's (one for navigation commands, the other for viewing camera and sensors info) and it's kind of playing an intensive pc game with lots of control keys.
Man... that's useless! controlling the washing machine via bluetooth can be useful.
deano309 said:
Well my pc runs Windows 98 quicker than it runs Windows 7.
Doesn't mean that I want to use windows 98 just because it's faster... it's outdated and has a c**p UI.... Just like the iPhone!
Speed isn't everything and I know there are HD2 Android roms out there which are faultless... must be down to an iPhone user not knowing how to install a ROM!
History of an iPhone user:
Day 1: Oh, Shiny toy...
Day 2: Shiny toy play music...
Day 3: Awww, me gotta pay for stuff...
Day 4: Me jailbroke it, me a God...
Day 5: Ummm what now?!?!?!
Day 6: Let's bash other phones since I have just wasted my money on this plastic piece of turd!
Day 7: Take iPhone back on the pretence that it has a fault and get a decent phone!
See, it's easy to bash other phones but as was previosly mentioned, Android WAS NEVER designed to run on the HD2 and it's still a WIP.
I find the OP incredibly anally retentive for ignoring the hard work which has gone into development for this device. I have no latency issues which causes me to log onto a forum and open a new thread just to complain about it - get a life!
My advice to the OP: Stick to a couple of tin cans with string and be happy with what you have!
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pmsl!
Dude, That is so getting added to my signature, At least for while anyway!
[edit] damn sig character limit
I see his point but I do not think he formulated it correctly.
When you use Apple iPad or iPhone transitional effects are "silky smooth" BUT that does not mean Android sucks!!! I really prefer smoothness over capability but in my case with HD2 and MDJs NAND Ginger ROM I did not have to give up either or! It works smooth enough for my taste and capability to run it on WinMo native device is even more AWESOME!!!
I do not think there will ever be perfect phone that has everything we want for continuous year in the future but that's life. Find me a car that's perfect in every aspect... Maybe Apple should make them too to run "smooth" ...
Regardless, point is if you really cannot leave with Android, why don't you try Apple products (iPad and iPhone)? See it for yourself and decide. My decision as 75% of the world is that Android owns apple in every way possible - and it will for long years ahead
So long Appleish Smoothish fans
I consider myself a heavy user of all iDevices (iPod, iPhone, iPad, Macs, Apple TV), Blackberry phones and I could not resist myself the moment I saw the Galaxy Note. I ended up owning one and I really fell in love with that device the moment I held it my hands.
My experience with Note is just 1 week old and I wonder if there are any features that I am already / will be missing from iPhone/iPad world going forward. This is not a review and it is just my observation, opinion of what I feel
Here you go!
Hardware:
The galaxy note IMO is far more superior in the hardware specification than the iPhone 4s right the processor speed, performance, resolution, screen technology, feel.
OS:
Is it better than iOS? Well, can't say! iOS always had a clean interface. No cribs on Android either. Highly customizable, looks great and ICS looks promising (can't wait for it though)
Too many options are good
Battery
Note's battery lasts for nearly 16 hrs on moderate use and is definitely better than iPhone.
Display
One word! Gorgeous! Black is truly black and I believer that there are just too many posts complaining about patchy surface beneath the screen. I guess that is by design and I am not worried. The performance is flawless! Show stealer and all my friends who saw the demo could not close their mouth ;-)
Gestures:
I am not missing anything here! Supports all the gestures!
Apps:
I almost find all the apps in the Android market place that I used to use daily on my iPhone / iPad except a few (Love ArtRage on my iPad). I am sure the developers must be working on it. Only crib is that I need to buy them again. I wish there is a platform independent licensing mechanism.
iCloud
Yes, I am missing the iCloud backup / Restore across all my devices. But, at the end of the day I own only 1 Android phone and I believe the backup is happening here on either Google/Samsung. Experts?
Airplay
Yes, I miss it and I am not quite happy with AllShare (DLNA) as the videos don't play. This only plays Audio, Photos on DLNA certified systems and not what I watch on youtube etc.
In Apple world, the AirPlay is just awesome and helped us watch things directly on the TV using Apple TV.
PC Indepent
Truly it is. Till date iOS always depended on a machine and this dependency is removed only with iOS5. In the past one week, I have not connect my Note to any of my machines even once and fully operational within minutes of the purchase!
Audio / Call quality
Not missing anything here. Had too many confusions after reading user reviews and finally i wanted to give it a try and compromise even if the SQ is not that great. I am glad that I did it.
To my ears, the sound is equally good between iPhone and Note. But I found that the music quality is much better with the stock player than using 3rd party EQ/Amps. Somehow, the PowerAmp kills the quality. Not using it any more.
Missing iTunes? I don't think so. I copy my songs the microSD and job is done. Genius playlists? Never use them. No cribs!
iTunes Music Match? Wont work in my country!!
Oh, Did I say the FM quality is good?
Similarly no complaints on call quality either. crystal clear and I am using all default settings while placing the call. I am not disabling noise canceling as some users do.
Car friendliness:
Well, not too much happy as holding it on one hand is an issue while driving. Connects seamlessly with my Parrot BT hooked up to my Alpine and hence no major issues!
However, iPhone is equally bad and not superior. '
I guess it is more to do with lock screens and touch screens as I am more used to using my Blackberry Bold for business purposes to engage in conference calls (Dial a bridge and key in a 6-10 digit PIN code). Just imagine typing the PIN using one hand in Note. Really a struggle and it is too dangerous! On BB, I can feel the keys and type, while I watch the road.
Voice Recognition
Frankly I am not a big fan of this and hence not considering Siri too here. I don't think we can mimic US accent, how much ever we try and hence giving up on that!
Tamil eBooks
My tamil collection worked nicely on iBooks and on Note, I had to struggle a bit for Android. Finally I ended up Moon Reader and Cool Reader for tamil language support. I like Moon+Reader better than the Aldiko!
Timer control to make the phone sleep is missing in Note.
Mails / Messages
Both seamlessly connect to Exchange 2010 and IMO, Android uses advanced features (integrating the SMS) with Exchange better than iOS.
iPod Docking
In my car I am used to connecting my iPhone using the provided dock and connect to Parrot BT using bluetooth.
I know my Alpine suppers hard disks, USB disks etc. Need to buy the accessory to mount my phone so that I can play the songs! Will update once i get it!
Some of the above are just OS related and really not device related though!!
My 2 cents!
onlt thing i miss from iphone is android market is not selling items to my country so making tricks to get paid apps is not a good thing. iphone doesnt have this kşnd of issues.
I came from a IP3,3gs&4.
I miss bubble notifications, i know u can get them on launchers/themes but they don't cover a lot of apps like whatapp, work email etc.
Also on a jail broken ip4 the lock screen app vis on cydia is great. All my emails,SMS,whatapp / notifcations at the lockscreen. Didn't have to unlock to read first few lines of a notification.
So its just software hopefully ill get what i need when someone devs it
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I will never sell my iphone
iphone apps>>>>>>>>>>>android
So the sole reason you're keeping your iDevices is apps? I know the i ones tend to be more polished UI wise but that will come in time on Android, and seriously, how many apps exist on the i ecosystem that you can't substitute with an Android app, or come close?
Just wondering...
Games apps etc are all better on iphone more fluid and look better
Tamil eBooks
My tamil collection worked nicely on iBooks and on Note, I had to struggle a bit for Android. Finally I ended up Moon Reader and Cool Reader for tamil language support. I like Moon+Reader better than the Aldiko!
If your files are epub try Go Books it looks nice I used to use Moon+reader but switched up
oh.... let's see.... I missed the fact that my thumb can reach edge to edge of the screen on any of the iPhones. I also missed the slow evolution of the iDevices but they made sure we didn't feel cheap about it by selling them at a higher price than similar devices.
Gosh... there are so many paid apps that are so polished that the Androids will never catch up to.....
iFanbois, please get a life.
darkmax1974 said:
oh.... let's see.... I missed the fact that my thumb can reach edge to edge of the screen on any of the iPhones. I also missed the slow evolution of the iDevices but they made sure we didn't feel cheap about it by selling them at a higher price than similar devices.
Gosh... there are so many paid apps that are so polished that the Androids will never catch up to.....
iFanbois, please get a life.
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The irony
In 2 weeks I miss the app store, the ease of use, the polished ios5 and most importantly the sync. Android sync is absolute garbage!
The rest of the stuff the note wins hands down, I'll bear with it till the iphone 5 comes out and see what that looks like, may even go back to windows if I dont ever manage to sync this thing properly
From 3GS to 4 to Note..
I miss activator from Cydia to features from status bar.
No yet enuf reading, is it activator or something similiar exist?
Like to activate/click on status bar from running app to return to home screen without clickinf on the physical button.(To minimize using of the button that frequently faulty.on my iphone)
TapaTalking on Note
vprabu said:
I consider myself a heavy user ,,,,,
iCloud
Yes, I am missing the iCloud backup / Restore across all my devices. But, at the end of the day I own only 1 Android phone and I believe the backup is happening here on either Google/Samsung. Experts?
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Why don't you try Dropbox? 2GB Free. By the way, if you use this link: http://db.tt/bO7rycn we both will win + 250 Free MB
I would say the apps are better on iOS. More of them, and better quality.
I had that great periodic table app, not on Android. Also there many more star map apps on iOS. Google Sky sux.
Android is very popular, maybe not as much as Apple devices but for how popular Android is I am surprised that more of the polished apps haven't been ported.
The thing I DON'T miss is iTunes. God i hate that app and the fact that you MUST use it to do anything on iOS.
I miss how easy it was to copy and paste, going back to a letter in word for correcting mistakes, and tiny wings
I don't miss the small screen, no flash, and no custom ROMS
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darkmax1974 said:
iFanbois, please get a life.
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We don't need those post's here. If you don't agree with him, discuss the topic, stay away from fanboy talk. The best way to let it die is to deny it exist's, lets keep it real.
I'm planning on buying a Note and keeping my iPhone 4(jailbroken) at first at least. I want to see where my needs are met or lost first. I'd like to be able to have the Note replace both my iPhone 4 and my HTC Flyer, but as it stands both devices are very nice singularly. I love my iPhone, and I love my Flyer. Both Android and iOS bring a lot to the table, Thanks for your incite on this thread!
From my personal experience
Hardware - android ++++++
Software - ios ++++++
I'm an android user but have been playing with several friends' iphones. I was always impressed with how polished the iOS in terms of smoothness and design. The sheer number of apps and how good some of them were also made me jealous. But in the end I can't imagine living a day-to-day life with a device so limited by one man's vision. These things are to be used the way somebody wants me to use them (including the way I grip the phone ;P). I'm aware that it really depends on personal preference but I'm a power user and being told how to use my device is simply an insult to me (and a painful limitation of course). On android I feel free.
Pere said:
Why don't you try Dropbox? 2GB Free. By the way, if you use this link: http://db.tt/bO7rycn we both will win + 250 Free MB
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I do use Dropbox. But what I meant is that the devices synching our data (including apps) effortlessly.
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drgopoos said:
From my personal experience
Hardware - android ++++++
Software - ios ++++++
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Well, I partly agree. To me softwares / apps are still 3rd party stuff and they still do a good job when they support both the platforms. However the developers who are not familiar with UI/UX and when they create apps only on android, the UI is a bit lousy.
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I miss the way Music Player in iOS creating playlist. I find it more convenient as I always like to create playlists each day going out.
And honestly, the way iOS manage apps is better, I dont have to worry if I leave anything running in the background that killing the phone battery.
Anyway, I'm in love with my Note now