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My simple comparisons between Atrix and iPhone
I came from the following devices before Atrix 4G:
iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, Samsung Captivate, Samsung Focus, and now the ATRIX 4G. I still have my Captivate, Focus, and 3GS with me. iPhone 4's Bluetooth was giving me absymal call quality that I couldn't keep the stupid iPhone 4. It does have the front facing camera, and very very good picture quality at the back. The IPS screen is no Super AMOLED, but IPS colors are very accurate. The Super AMOLED has burn-in issue after several months of usage especially if you are in a Skype or phone conversation, the screen NEVER turns off when using speaker phone or bluetooth headset...... I have to click the sleep button on my captivate.... sucka SUPERAMOLED best color but worse life-span than LCDs PERIOD! I personally do not like to simply read the reviews and forums and decide what not to buy, because my first hand experience is the most important.
1. GPS: Atrix and iPhone 4 are excellent and they lock extremely fast and instant regardless of Wifi, 3G cell tower triangulation, or none! Woo hoo. I have Navigon on iPhone so I love it way more than Android's Google Nav or Navigon there coz they are buggy and the vocie synthesizer is like a sound of Stephan Hawkins without emotion. Navigon's soothing woman voice provides the best GPS Navi experience so far. Unfortunately, I can't say the same with the Navigon for Android. It's too buggy and lacking some good features from the iOS. I do like Android's 3D map and voice search and most importantly it's FREE. BUT constantly streaming maps over the cell tower is not reliable. What happen when you go to area without cell coverage? Also what happen if the data plan has only 200MB/month?
2. Internet Browsing speed/ease:
I like Safari coz of double tapping to zoom, the pintch and zoom performance and the beauty of copy and paste has been doing very well and more responsive than the Atrix. On the Atrix browser, i CANNOT edit this forum while typing this response. It sometimes not allowing me to select and scroll through the text even Atrix is imitating Apple with the magnifying glass. Sometimes the magnifying glass never shows up!!! While flash is fun on my Atrix bit it slows down a lot just to display ads. Fortunately I can disable Flash if I want to.
Flash to me while is pretty much full web browsing experience, but it does slow down the entire web page performance. It's good to have the flash option in Android no doubt. iOS however, has forced Adobe to take mobile platform more seriously and look into mobile hardware acceleration to create smooth browsing experience.
3. Stability/Speed: Pretty stable so far and pretty snappy over all. Install Launcher Pro or Go Launch Ex and also use Titanium Backup to Freeze MotoBlur if you are thinking Blur is slowing the system down....But I personally like Blur's widget just not the app drawer. Go Launcher EX has the similar UI as the iOS in the app drawer which is a plus when you want to manage your apps such as hold to wiggle the apps and delete them by touching the Minus sign like iOS.
4. Call Quality/Least dropped calls
iPhone 4 call quality is not as good except ear piece. Bluetooth and Speaker phones are.... bad..... the noise cancellation technology on iPhone 4 is not really good... People had hard time hear my voice even I have tried Jawbone Icon, Plantronics, BlueAnt all these highest end bluetooth headsets! Only the earpiece and stupid corded headphone works okay on the iPhone 4
Atrix is also suffering from similar problem especially if there is wind blowing to the top of the microphone.... the wind noise cancellation of the Atrix is not great which Motorola is trying to improve. Fortunately, BLUETOOTH headset call quality is EXCELLENT and that's what I use the most and perfect!!! Speakerphone is pretty good most of the time.
5. Speaker Quality/Volume
iPhone 4 and Atrix both housing the very loud speakers. I love iPhone 4 and Atrix
6. IPS LCD vs Pentile LCD
iPhone 4's LCD color is way more accurate compare to the Pentile LCD used in Atrix. The Color in Atrix such as yellow is greenish lime...... check the demo unit to compare. Use color calibration tables to compare. iPhone 4 is very very very good.
7. OS: ease of use vs high customizable.
I've discovered that Android is like beta product to me. People are trying hard to customize the UI just to have fun and increase productivity. iOS right now so far has provided the best experience. While Android is a little inferior due to simple Copy and Paste, delete app without accessing Application manager, update all apps at ease (Android requires manually permit each app to update automatically. Update ALL does not work when you have a modified app such as Skype for 3G call in US which cannot be updated due to relocking WiFi only call function), webpage rendering performance such as pinch to zoom in iOS is still better than Atrix running Android for sure. Android is also missing a lot of popular Games from the iOS. Hopefully Sony can do some impact....
8. Multitouch
iPhone 4: 5 points
Atrix 4G: 2 fingers but hardware could support 5 but should we buy for the potention?
Apps that support more than 2 fingers are:
iOS: Cut the Rope, Garage Band, Star Wars Force Unleashed, Street Fighter, GTA, and more
Android: does not have enough because the hardware are inconsistent. Sony Ericsson Xperia X8 can't even do multi-touch! Xperia X10 has problem when crossing X-Y axis with two fingers.
9: HDMI output
iPhone 4 or 5 can do 720P: SMOOOOOOOTH like butter but no specialized 720p interface, just mirroring your iPad2 or iPhone 4's screen to the HDTV. Good for games!!!
Atrix 720P Webtop OS is choppy It runs 720P video at lower than 15 fps....It can't truely mirror the image from the phone to the HDTV for games because for some reason the screen is forced to be a touch pad instead of a multitouch gesture or game pad control such as Samurai II.... you can only move the cursor to control the direction or the attack button but not both... VERY DISSAPOINTING!! Motorola's innovation is just old wine inside a new bottle. Webtop is more like a gimmick than a truly reliable feature.
10. VOIP: Skype, Tango, Qik, Fring, etc
iPhone 4: works all the way with Skype support video call on iOS!!!!! perfect!
Atrix 4G: Only Tango, Qik work so far recently. Skype is totally NOT working, people can't hear my voice from the mic due to high amplitude and frequencies noise. Something wrong with the codecs and non standard API that Motorola has used which is another Google's Fragmentation problem. How do you expect developers to change their source code just to suit a single device like Atrix? There is still no video call in Skype for Android!
11. Multilingual Support:
iPhone: Absolutely almost perfect. The iOS ,regardless of anywhere in the world, has the multilingual keyboard, voice recognition system, writing recognition system, system menu. It's a perfect multilingual OS that until today, there is no one in the computer industry is able to match Apple! Windows 7 still can't do that natively unless you purchase the Ultimate edition and still requires to install the language packs separately through the updates!
Atrix: Running Moto Blur is the cause for none North American languages being removed from the stock Android OS due to the limited storage space for system in the phone. Asian Language is not supported right out of the box. What's come worse is you can't even view or edit Asian language such as Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc in the Webtop environment! What a bummer to me! Motorola Rep told me they are interested about the application of it and willing to enable that feature. That doesn't mean they will enable the feature for North American market. It's a freaking world phone where people need to travel to conduct their business! What happen if people need to type Email in Chinese in the Webtop? It's NOT going to happen as of now and probably not unless you purchase an Asian version in the future.
12. Easy to Hack:
iPhone Jailbreaking requires careful maintanence even it's just a single-swipe or click to Jailbreak. The jailbroken device is highly unstable and usually requires a system restore which takes hours to sync back all the data if your device is fully loaded.
Atrix is easy to root (still definitely not for non tech savvy), convert your phone to webtop without buying the dock, and easy to enable Mobile Hotspot Tethering without paying. BUUUUT ENCRYPTED BOOTLOADER.... which Motorla is still deciding how to response to the developers... fortunately, there is the RSD5.0 that can flash Atrix to stock ROM now
13. BACKUP & RESTORE:
I demand not a simple cloud service backup for the contacts, email, sms, maps, search history but also for the apps and multimedia data! Motorola does provide the software to do it, but it's SLOW. The file manager transfer speed is as slow as 150 KB/sec via USB! I'm forced to use the Massive Storage Media to drag and drop contents. It's convenient in a way but it's definitely not the most efficient method. Syning data prevents wasting time to overwrite data that are up-to-date. Hopefully these can be resolved by the upcoming Gingerbread.
iOS: iTunes simple apps and data backup! It does have it's short coming such as cannot backup data of the deleted apps from the device. I repeat, data backup means not just contact, sms, over the cloud or computer but the data and settings that are stored in the apps and OS.
Atrix: Before the Gingerbread is baked for the Atrix, you must NEED to ROOT to use Titanium Backup and Rom manager (Which doesn't work coz of the locked down bootloader) and it doesn't sync to your computer or your cloud data storage centers. Why do we still use SD cards when there is Dropbox type of system? SD card backup is the not a modern solution. Morever, Titanium Backup is dangerous if you accidentally restore the incompatible data to the system file which may crash the device. The UI of Titanium is not intuitive and it's very complicated for first time users. Titanium Backup is again for geeks not your parents and definitely not your grandma! Android has completely failed in this category! Therefore it can't be a serious work phone without the right backup/restore feature. Finally Motorola's Portal is just slow.... 150KB/sec of USB transfer, it's forcing me to use as Massive Storage Device and that's 40x faster!
I do appreciate the Google cloud service to store all the search history, maps, contacts, email, etc. However, what about Apps data? I'm having a hard time to simply backup my apps data while they aren't stored somewhere in the globe.
14: Multimedia
Both iPhone and Atrix can sync with iTunes library since Apple has dominated the music market. Youtube experience is definitely a lot better in Android than iOS. Because you can rotate your Atrix in landscape mode to have full screen, while potrate mode to access related video and read/write comments while the video is playing! I would say iPhone and Atrix should be quite on par in multimedia.
Codecs that are supported by Atrix are still confusing. Some people say 720P mp4 aren't running correctly.
15. Notification System
iPhone: intrusive! Yup I don't like the bubble in the middle of the screen while I was watching movie, playing games, browsing website, VNC, and most importantly, video conferencing!
Android: non-intrusive notification system where the notifications are up on top to be slided down to review the history like a log. Perfect!
16. How data is being stored
iPhone iOS: single partition easy managemant. You don't need to keep track of where the apps are stored and whether if they can be installed to a larger sd card. This technique has been acknowledged by Microsoft's WP7 though Samsung Focus is an exception which still create confusion on which type of SD card has to be used safely. Atrix stores the data either in the internal memory or sd card which falls to the same issues as Windows Mobile installation --> confusion.
17: Email (3/14/2011)
iPhone iOS 4 now supports threaded emails which sorts out conversations with the latest at the very top even inside the conversation. So far I like it and very productive and convenient.
Atrix: The build in Email App from Motoblur does not do threaded emails. The Gmail app is even more pathetic! While the conversation feature is convenient, putting the oldest thread at the very top inside a conversation forces me to scroll all the way to the bottom just to read the latest email is just ridiculous! There is also bug for conversation list where it doesn't move to the next conversation even I've selected update automatically. The Gmail App is BROKEN in Android and people are complaining about that.
Atrix: Android's support of SD card is good but also bad when you have to keep track of where the applications are installed to and whether if they can be running efficiently when stored to the SD card. SD card does provide expandability but in reality, you are still limited by the maximum size that the device can handle which is 10GB internal usable storage + 32GB and you can't do a single partition to combine the internal storage with the SD card.
If you want a device to ease your life and improve work efficiency, get iOS. Android is more for geeks or developers. Get Atrix if you like to modify the device. The webtop is more like a gimmick rather than productivity unless you really use the Citrix Remote Desktop Control. It's an interesting idea, but in terms of daily basis, Android is still slightly behind iOS in terms of design. Market share does not reflect the re fineness of the product.
*Caution* if you have more important things to worry about rather than modifying system files, customizing the cosmetics of the UI, or simply just trying to eliminate the lags, avoid the Atrix.
Finally, I am still debating if I should keep the Atrix or wait for the iPhone 5, Galaxy S II or the Optimus 2x.
I think there are tons of people on this forum that would disagree with you. I for one was an iphone user for 4 years and I will not go back. Why would you come to this forum of all places to recommend the IOS? Most people who are on this forum have already made up their minds about what phone to get. I found the biggest thing about switching from an iphone to android is that it's like wiping your butt with the opposite hand. If you have been doing it one way for so long you are highly resistant to move to a different tech or adjust to the way that tech works. IOS is plain, boring, and locked down. It's not much different than it was 4 years ago and apple spoon feeds options to users that should be standard from the beginning.
"...update all apps at ease (Android requires manually select each app to update automatically)"
Try going into the market, then pressing the menu key and then My Apps. You should see a link to Update All at the top if more than one app needs updating.
catfarm said:
"...update all apps at ease (Android requires manually select each app to update automatically)"
Try going into the market, then pressing the menu key and then My Apps. You should see a link to Update All at the top if more than one app needs updating.
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You have to turn on that otherwise some of the apps have to be updated manually. Did that before.....
I'm not sure what you are talking about, but I myself am coming from an iphone 3gs, this is my first android, and as far as I can tell the two update their apps in almost an identical manner in terms of number of clicks to update all the apps that need updates. I haven't changed anything from default and have not had to manually change anything in each app to make it part of the update all functionality.
squassss said:
I think there are tons of people on this forum that would disagree with you. I for one was an iphone user for 4 years and I will not go back. Why would you come to this forum of all places to recommend the IOS? Most people who are on this forum have already made up their minds about what phone to get. I found the biggest thing about switching from an iphone to android is that it's like wiping your butt with the opposite hand. If you have been doing it one way for so long you are highly resistant to move to a different tech or adjust to the way that tech works. IOS is plain, boring, and locked down. It's not much different than it was 4 years ago and apple spoon feeds options to users that should be standard from the beginning.
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I'm just comparing and responding to another user who is deciding between iPhone 4 and Atrix. That's the comment I provide.
Android is nice as the op stated however it's still not as refined as Apple's iOS is and apple is quickly improving their os and it's easily available when released thru iTunes or visiting a local apple store if you don't have a desktop or laptop and high speed Internet. I think google may need to start making huge changes if they want to have people be happy with android. Starting with requiring manufacturers to make updates available to each device as the updates are released.
galaxyjeff said:
I think google may need to start making huge changes if they want to have people be happy with android.
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We'll go ahead and forget for the moment that for all of the ways which make iOS just so much better, it is still being outsold by Android, with the gap growing every day.
tomit12 said:
We'll go ahead and forget for the moment that for all of the ways which make iOS just so much better, it is still being outsold by Android, with the gap growing every day.
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That's not the best comparison. Apple has 4 models sold so far.android had like 4 a week.
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galaxyjeff said:
Android is nice as the op stated however it's still not as refined as Apple's iOS is and apple is quickly improving their os and it's easily available when released thru iTunes or visiting a local apple store if you don't have a desktop or laptop and high speed Internet. I think google may need to start making huge changes if they want to have people be happy with android. Starting with requiring manufacturers to make updates available to each device as the updates are released.
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Agree, Android's update cycle is so exciting and fast, it just takes manufacturers too long to roll out those updates. The Atrix was announced after gingerbread was released, but it came with Froyo.
But in all honesty Android is far better at content creation and not just content consumption. Apple users are such well trained monkeys that they will pay $1 for a flashlight app when a Dev with some decent skills and passion for the platform will release it for free.
My wife is nowhere near as tech savvy as I am, but she lives her Desire Z and finds it easier to use than her iPhone 3gs, but this could also be due to HTC Sense.
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galaxyjeff said:
Android is nice as the op stated however it's still not as refined as Apple's iOS is and apple is quickly improving their os and it's easily available when released thru iTunes or visiting a local apple store if you don't have a desktop or laptop and high speed Internet. I think google may need to start making huge changes if they want to have people be happy with android. Starting with requiring manufacturers to make updates available to each device as the updates are released.
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Quickly? It's been 4 years and iOS has barely changed.
squarejp said:
You have to turn on that otherwise some of the apps have to be updated manually. Did that before.....
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To clarify, you can change each individual app to update automatically which means you will never have to do anything OR you can go into the Market and just select "Update All" at the top. I had an iphone and you either had to update on itunes and then sync your phone or you had to go to the app store in your phone and select "Update all" but with Android, if you take the 2 or 3 minutes to select the automatic feature, you won't have to do anything, so I think Android WINS that round, sheesh. Plus, that's just splitting hairs.
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Agree, Android's update cycle is so exciting and fast, it just takes manufacturers too long to roll out those updates. The Atrix was announced after gingerbread was released, but it came with Froyo.
But in all honesty Android is far better at content creation and not just content consumption. Apple users are such well trained monkeys that they will pay $1 for a flashlight app when a Dev with some decent skills and passion for the platform will release it for free.
My wife is nowhere near as tech savvy as I am, but she lives her Desire Z and finds it easier to use than her iPhone 3gs, but this could also be due to HTC Sense.
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The part about the $1 flashlight app you say is total bologna. The best flashlight app in the app store is totally free and gets regular updates. Also android is a toy with a cute little green robot.
Go bite an Apple, OP. It's obvious you have no clue what you're even saying. If you did, you'd realize that you're sooooo wrong about nearly everything.
Also, I don't know if you're from a different country, but if you're going to make an Android bashing post, please do so without using google translate.
First point: You love Navigon on the iPhone, but you don't like Google Maps or Navigon on Android... alroghty then...
Second: I don't know why you feel like that. I'm using Dolphin browser, P&Z work fine, as well as copying and pasting. It kinda takes a little bit of getting used to to make the magnifying glass pop up.
Three, four, and five I can basically skip since you give Android some room to breathe.
Six: The green feels fine to me. I've used an iP4, and while the Retina Display is nice, I haven't seen any notable differences, and the color green seems fine to me.
Seven: Oh. My. God. Learn what a Beta is. Your definition of beta seems to be: "Too hard for me to use." It seems like my 10 year old sister knows how to use Android better than you. It's so simple to use copy and paste, but it seems you just can't figure out, and you condemn a whole OS because you can't seem to understand it. You also said that there's a launcher to hold and delete apps, so why even bring it up again?
Now for the updating... Are you mental? Is it really that hard to go into the Market, click settings, and then update all? As for the games, just wait. Android hasn't been mainstream as long as iOS.
Eight: So, you're going to use all 5 fingers all the time? I've never seen people use more than 3, and rarely use 3 at all.
Nine: You have to buy an extra accesory to use HDMI output on the iPhone... And that is webtop, not mirroring you're doing. Learn the difference.
Ten: Apps need to be updated. Device less than a month old. Blahdy blah.
Eleven: You skipped 11.
Twelve: High maintenance in time such as tethering? lolwut? Makes no sense at all. Rooting is so simple. All automated for you.
Thirteen: Almost everything is backed up for you! Contacts are auto-backed up to Google from the start. MotoBlur also helps with that. Download an app to backup SMS convo's to your SD card, and then just plug your phone in and transfer your pics. Then there's good, old Titanium.
You're comparing Apples to Robots, and it's just not working. Your basic understanding of the English language is horrible, and shouldn't be used to bash Android.
iOS is def more refined, and user freindly. and i had over all less little glitches with my iphone than ive had with my atrix.
but im still staying with anything android. android phones are more customizable even without root/rom than a jailbroken iphone is. (just talking about visual customization)
I don't understand why almost all "Atrix vs. iphone/android vs. iOS" speak only or mainly of points that are already handed to Apple. I'm sure that other Atrix users here like me, Bought the Atrix knowing in advanced it's does not win over iphones in all categories.
I'm thank the OP for his review but an example of I'm saying about those reviews is like the highlight on "updating all apps at once". I wonder how could this feature be more important compared how each OS handles installing the apps!!
I'm new to Android and it was a little blast I had when I found out how you install apps! click this, install that, back, click this, install, check download progress in notification bar, go back for more apps, they download and install while your still surfing the friggin' market!!
In iOS if you chose to install an app it exits itself to the home screen and you need to go find where you re-launch the store app!!
Now how can that not be spoken of when "updating all apps at once" is suddenly an edge over the other OS?
I have to admit English is not my first language and I was pretty frustrated about my Atrix!
I know some people may not agree with me but here is my refined response.
First point: You love Navigon on the iPhone, but you don't like Google Maps or Navigon on Android... alright then...
Second: I don't know why you feel like that. I'm using Dolphin browser, P&Z work fine, as well as copying and pasting. It kinda takes a little bit of getting used to to make the magnifying glass pop up.
Thanks for the tips on alternative browsers. Copy and Pasting is worse than iOS from my Atrix experience. Sometimes there is no magnifying glass when editing the text. It pops out a selection menu that covers up my whole screen asking me to SELECT TEXT, SELECT ALL, COPY, etc. Inside the browser, I MUST need to click the Menu button, select More, Select text and I've no way to accurately select the correct beginning and the end of the portion that I would like to copy.
Three, four, and five I can basically skip since you give Android some room to breathe.
Six: The green feels fine to me. I've used an iP4, and while the Retina Display is nice, I haven't seen any notable differences, and the color green seems fine to me.
Check with Color Calibration sheets to test LCD monitors then you will know how wrong the colors are especially yellow becomes yellowish green and lime and green contains yellow
Seven: Oh. My. God. Learn what a Beta is. Your definition of beta seems to be: "Too hard for me to use." It seems like my 10 year old sister knows how to use Android better than you. It's so simple to use copy and paste, but it seems you just can't figure out, and you condemn a whole OS because you can't seem to understand it. You also said that there's a launcher to hold and delete apps, so why even bring it up again?
I'm a tech geek who have used WP7, iOS, Symbian, Windows Mobile, Palm, and more in long period of time and I have the right to criticize Android base on my experience. The UI in Android is not refined and feels like Windows Mobile menus embedded within menus just bigger buttons and open source for developers but not really for consumers because the manufactures impose their lock-downs to the bootloaders.
Now for the updating... Are you mental? Is it really that hard to go into the Market, click settings, and then update all? As for the games, just wait. Android hasn't been mainstream as long as iOS.
Updates sucks because you can solely use the phone itself to update. I've a modified version of Skype which can't be updated using the UPDATE ALL menu. If I did that, my Skype can't be used in 3G network for calling. Moreover, Skype DOES NOT SUPPORT VIDEO CALL for Android yet while iOS are supported
Eight: So, you're going to use all 5 fingers all the time? I've never seen people use more than 3, and rarely use 3 at all.
Just because you never seen 3 fingers usage does not mean there is no such demand on the creativity. Take Cut the Rope, Star Wars Force Unleashed, Virtual DJ, Piano, and other creativity apps, they all use more than 3 fingers just to let you know.
Nine: You have to buy an extra accesory to use HDMI output on the iPhone... And that is webtop, not mirroring you're doing. Learn the difference.
Extra accessories also applies to the Atrix Officially. Webtop is running in Ubuntu which is Choppy and DOES NOT have an option to mirror the Android environment completely. When I want to play Samurai II on the HDTV, I CANNOT do that at all because the screen becomes a touch pad instead of normal multi-touch operation in the Android environment. I can't play Need for Speed on the HDTV because I can't touch the screen to play the game at all. iPhone, iPad, Optimus 2X and upcoming Xperia Arc are able to do that.
Ten: Apps need to be updated. Device less than a month old. Blahdy blah.
Truth to be told, Motorola is not using standard APIs. VOIP developers are having troubles to develop the right codecs to work in the Atrix. Do your own research
Eleven: You skipped 11.
Atrix has Limited Multilingual Support. The Webtop Cannot display Asian Characters nor allow users to input them either. Android does not come with decent Asian Characters inputs. Apple iOS is absolutely amazing in that area regardless where the iPhone is being released anywhere in the world, the language packs are the same. The only good side of Android's multilingual is customizable keyboard.. but so far none of the android keyboards have satisfied me due to choppiness, sluggish design, button too narrow, inaccurate writing recognition, and more.
Twelve: High maintenance in time such as tethering? lolwut? Makes no sense at all. Rooting is so simple. All automated for you.
I'm talking about keeping up the Jailbreaking trend against Apple's lockdown on the iPhone, not Android, read carefully! People who need to unlock their phones cannot update their iPhones easily. Feel free to jailbreak but you will suffer from system instability which usually requires full system restore. Re-syncing all apps usually take hours if your device is fully loaded.
Thirteen: Almost everything is backed up for you! Contacts are auto-backed up to Google from the start. MotoBlur also helps with that. Download an app to backup SMS convo's to your SD card, and then just plug your phone in and transfer your pics. Then there's good, old Titanium.
Did you read carefully what I was saying? I demand more than simple Contact, SMS, Email Cloud backup service. Titanium is dangerous to use for non technical people. They will overwrite or delete critical system data that would crash the device. Titanium also requires Root access in order to restore everything. I know how to use Titanium backup ever since I got my Captivate and got frustrated about lacking Google official data backup system. I repeat I'm very technical but Android is definitely not good for non technical people such as your grandma!
You're comparing Apples to Robots, and it's just not working. But I'm comparing different mobile OSs which is the same category
Your basic understanding of the English language is horrible, and shouldn't be used to bash Android.
Yet, Android is being used world wide and therefore should also be multilingual. You, who is an Android user, should able to tolerate people who are not English as their 1st language.
You're obviously not very tech-ish at all. You cannot say an OS is in beta because it lacks features you think should be in it. Your points are moot. So did you consider iOS 2, 3, and 4 to be betas as well?
And to your response to number 11, what?
I can tolerate people just fine. It's when you start rambling in broken English that I can't stand. It just starts looking like some sort of spam e-mail, and hard to read.
I agree with most of what you said squarejp.
Sad to see most people here will down the iP4 just because it is apple.
If they would actually get to use the phone for more than a day, im sure more would see what you mean.
P.S. I have both and iphone and a incredible running 2.2.
Dont kid yourself guys, IOS is much more refined than android.
Papi4baby said:
I agree with most of what you said squarejp.
Sad to see most people here will down the iP4 just because it is apple.
If they would actually get to use the phone for more than a day, im sure more would see what you mean.
P.S. I have both and iphone and a incredible running 2.2.
Dont kid yourself guys, IOS is much more refined than android.
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I'm knocking the Apple phone because I used 3 different versions of the iPhone. As well as own the ipad. Your opinions on what's refined or not =\= everyone elses
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Hey guys,
I bought my GNote in Feb 2012 but I would have gotten a iPhone 4s if I didn't already own an iPod but I was really upset over the OS (not the phone or specs) missing so much iOS features which I'm used to on my iPod. I switched to PA and though that rom is so much more better than GB, it still lacks some stuff. I still depend heavily on my iPod a lot. Recently my iPod after alot of abuse is giving way and the bottom part of the screen doesn't respond to touch, though useable I can't use it much and its now become a YouTube and music player only.
I will be getting the next Gen iPhone when its out (hopefully sooner than later). I'm not complaining at all or hating android, its unique but it isn't meant for me (and I'm far to dependent on iOS). I don't want to get another iPod because I'm sick of the switching between devices and my iPod can't do much without wifi (affecting my iMessage usage a lot) and I just want to keep all my major usage to one device and keep it simple.
I created this thread to ask what you guys do with your own Notes other than the obvious calling and texting and web browsing etc. I bought the Note on a 2 year contract and I don't want it collecting dust after getting the new iPhone. I still want use the device for the minor stuff or when my iPhone is charging or when I can't use it. I intend to use my note for when I'm home since my sim on my note will go to the new phone and it isn't much without connection to the net. So far I intent to use my note for reading books when I'm home/before bed, use for videos and note taking (obviously) and use Google music. What else do you guys do on your notes?
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How can you go smaller once you´ve had the Note?.. Why do you want iPhone so bad? What kinda features are missing on the Note?.. What you can do on the iPhone, you can do on the Note BUT what you can do on the Note, you can not do it on the iPhone!..
What does the iPhone offer that the Galaxy Note doesn't, or do you merely want to be a sheep and follow the Apple fad? If you give us what you find the iPhone offers over the Note, chances are someone here will find a way of doing that just as good - if not better- on the Note.
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How can you go smaller once you´ve had the Note?.. Why do you want iPhone so bad? What kinda features are missing on the Note?.. What you can do on the iPhone, you can do on the Note BUT what you can do on the Note, you can not do it on the iPhone!..
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Well said... when my friends look at my note and say "Your phone is too big..." I usually reply with "I think your phone is too small", I open the browsers of both phones, open a website like f1-live or nba.com place them side by side and smirk. (And this is not directed at the iPhone in particular, half of them are on other Samsung models and HTCs.
We also work a lot with PDF apps to highlight and make notes on pdfs... guess who doesn't have to bring an extra stylus in his pocket or an ipad or another tablet.
Honestly, the GNote killed other phone models for me...
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How can you go smaller once you´ve had the Note?.. Why do you want iPhone so bad? What kinda features are missing on the Note?.. What you can do on the iPhone, you can do on the Note BUT what you can do on the Note, you can not do it on the iPhone!..
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What does the iPhone offer that the Galaxy Note doesn't, or do you merely want to be a sheep and follow the Apple fad? If you give us what you find the iPhone offers over the Note, chances are someone here will find a way of doing that just as good - if not better- on the Note.
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well I know that but I sorta don't have an issue with it as I said I do use an iPod and note together so I sorta got used to going big then small but anyways the iPhone is rumoured to have a big screen at least 4 so hopefully its true. And fortunately no I'm not a sheep following apple, I have used both kinds of devices extensively and I'm not surprised you guys questioning about apple OS, sorta expected and the same thing will happen on apple forums with them questioning android but to be more specific about what I get from iOS that android doesn't offer:
iCloud integration (contacts calendars being in sync) which I value so much
Photo stream
iCloud backup so no need to plug to PC to backup
iTunes and app store that is available where I live unlike play store where I can't buy anything but games apps and not all of the are available to my phone specific.
Pages app that keeps sync with my iPad using iCloud so I can switch between devices when doing work
And the cool new thing with just having to pull down the notification centre to update Fb status
All around dictionary built on so I just have to high light a word and tap define for meaning and not copy then paste on google
And reader feature on safari which is AMAZING
Good ol' iMessage
I can go on the the list just gets longer and before you guys quote me and start saying, this apps replaces this feature and adding this method in replaces that thing or that's stupid and useless and not needed, I am used to the iOS system and the convenience of it. I know android also has its perks and due to the open source there is several rooms that you can pick from giving you different experiences with your phone.
Let's not argue on apple sucks and android rules or what not and get back to topic. I for one will be playing certain games OK my note instead because of the big screen like gta and Batman. So what other uses are there for the note?
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Sounds to me like you are very comfortable with IOS and I don't see a problem with that. You've been open minded about trying Android and it doesn't work for you. Such is life.
Rather than try to find uses for your GNote, why not sell it. (Preferably before the release of the GNote II).
Wotsup is right.
Good on you for trying out Android.
Sometimes i think to myself, how can anyone use iOS? It has less functionality, and there are so many restrictions. Everything looks the same, the home screen is so ugly.
Although I'm not a huge fan of Apple, they excel in user friendliness. Everything is like spoonfed. Some people like to customise their device and root it and do whatever the hell they want with it.
Others would rather get their device straight out of the box and just have everything work. Apple does a brilliant job in getting all their iDevices to just work. Seamlessly.
That's why even on the bus I see old people (like really old people) all with iPads and iPhones. But I really can't imagine the same people running custom Android roms or what not. XD
Anyways, the different devices will appeal to different people.
Good on you for giving Android a shot.
The All Around Dictionary would be great. Yes as you mentioned there are alternatives of all that you mentioned but not pre-configured if that is how iOS is deployed.
I agree with last 2 posters. I own a mac and love it. Ive owned tablets from both camps and the ipad wins hoands down.
But when it comes to phones im android all the way. Thats because i brougt into tue ecosystem supporting it.
Just like the op has and fair play you gave it ago. Im the first at work to bash apple users with compare the note test putting them to shame. But while we bash they have the upperhand their apps and tgat must be hard to break from.
One colleague just layered a multitrack song using midi in mics and a small bit of software all run on the iphone 4s. To say i couldnt win that one would be an understatement lol
So if you prefer ios then as mentioned sell your note now while its worth more.
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well I know that but I sorta don't have an issue with it as I said I do use an iPod and note together so I sorta got used to going big then small but anyways the iPhone is rumoured to have a big screen at least 4 so hopefully its true. And fortunately no I'm not a sheep following apple, I have used both kinds of devices extensively and I'm not surprised you guys questioning about apple OS, sorta expected and the same thing will happen on apple forums with them questioning android but to be more specific about what I get from iOS that android doesn't offer:
iCloud integration (contacts calendars being in sync) which I value so much
Photo stream
iCloud backup so no need to plug to PC to backup
iTunes and app store that is available where I live unlike play store where I can't buy anything but games apps and not all of the are available to my phone specific.
Pages app that keeps sync with my iPad using iCloud so I can switch between devices when doing work
And the cool new thing with just having to pull down the notification centre to update Fb status
All around dictionary built on so I just have to high light a word and tap define for meaning and not copy then paste on google
And reader feature on safari which is AMAZING
Good ol' iMessage
I can go on the the list just gets longer and before you guys quote me and start saying, this apps replaces this feature and adding this method in replaces that thing or that's stupid and useless and not needed, I am used to the iOS system and the convenience of it. I know android also has its perks and due to the open source there is several rooms that you can pick from giving you different experiences with your phone.
Let's not argue on apple sucks and android rules or what not and get back to topic. I for one will be playing certain games OK my note instead because of the big screen like gta and Batman. So what other uses are there for the note?
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either you are a troll or you don't have a damn idea of what android is... In fact I doubt you have a note... you can do everything you are saying here and more with any android device...
4 inch screen on new iphone? not enough my note is 5.3 and waiting for the 5.5 on note 2, itrash its just plain boring and limitated os(for limitated no used to technology like my grandma) people... I own a galaxy Nexus 4.67 inches and I can't watch its screen.. nor hold it in my hand.. to damn small so this thing about switching between iPod and note its bs.. By listing all these features not only shows that you don't own an android but that you are just an isheep trolling here
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Actually I remember reading that the iPhone 5 would have 3.999" screen..So its not "at least 4" big".. Something to do with the aspect ratio..
i prefer Android os :laugh:
4" how gay
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Haha how did I know it would deteriorate into name calling? Oh right. Android loons can't take criticism. And definitely can't stomach any sort of fruit. You know jelly beans and ice cream sandwiches are nice treats, but not entirely healthy if eaten beyond moderation. Not good for scurvy either.
@OP. Sell the Note. It can fetch a decent price. Go buy an iPad2. You can get a refurb one straight from apple for only $319. I have a refurb one. Or if you really want the higher resolution "new" iPad, you can use the money plus a bit more to get it. The resolution gain wasn't worth it for me. They are identical otherwise. You are treating your note like a tablet anyway, leaving it at home and using it around the house, so might as well buy a real one. Don't get an Android tablet. If you already own a tablet, send your note to me.
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either you are a troll or you don't have a damn idea of what android is... In fact I doubt you have a note... you can do everything you are saying here and more with any android device...
4 inch screen on new iphone? not enough my note is 5.3 and waiting for the 5.5 on note 2, itrash its just plain boring and limitated os(for limitated no used to technology like my grandma) people... I own a galaxy Nexus 4.67 inches and I can't watch its screen.. nor hold it in my hand.. to damn small so this thing about switching between iPod and note its bs.. By listing all these features not only shows that you don't own an android but that you are just an isheep trolling here
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4" how gay
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Thank you guys for the reply especially msedek for that extremely pointless and useless comment that was so unconstructive. Pretty sure you are the troll here, unlike you I do own both an iPod and GNote and since like you said in your words 'you can do everything you are saying here and more with any android device...' how about you list the ways I can get what ever I like on iOS onto android. Pretty sure your not gonna reply so I'll just say it.... T R O L L . . .
Also thanks to THUDUK for the gay remark, you have fulfilled you part in the XDA forums, go celebrate!
As for the rest of guys, thanks for the replies (I really mean it and not sacarstic unlike to the other 2 morons I quoted). The think is I don't wanna sell my note because I still want to part own an Android but just use it as my main device. I also am still making payments for it, I bought it on a 2 year contract so don't wanna sell it while still paying for a device I can't use if I sold. I don't intend to use it as a tablet as I do own a iPad already, but since I got no intentions at all to sell my note I want to make use of it even after the phone switch.
At this point I don't know what size screen the next iPhone has but what ever size it is I will still be getting one because my iPod is close to fried, yesterday lock button stop working. So I literally need an iOS device (cas its my drug) and instead of just spending money on next gen iPod which becomes almost useless without wifi I want to get the iPhone just to keep it all in one. I actually was thinking and the note is pretty slim actually so I do intend to put a few TV shows and movies and take it with me for long journeys or trips and its big screen and 8 megapixels can come in great use to take pictures unless the next Gen iPhone has a 12 megapix then proabaly use that to take pics but anyways the device is pretty slim and not that much heavy for me to use it as a video player on the go. So I save battery on my phone watching videos on the note and I can do texts and calls without having to pause the video etc.
I still want to use my note as much as I can even after I get the iPhone. Also I really respect the most of you here who replied for actually understanding the point of this thread and not be like 'some other people and make plain stupid and meaningless remarks'... and gay comments also. So I'm final thing is very unlikely to sell my note as I'm still making payments for it and also I can use it as a backup if I lose my iPhone or send it for fixing or simply run out of battery. Once again I thank you guys for the replies and keep them coming, I have tried extensively both iOS and ics and prefer iOS more but doesn't mean android isn't good, it just isn't for me.
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Actually I remember reading that the iPhone 5 would have 3.999" screen..So its not "at least 4" big".. Something to do with the aspect ratio..
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Really difficult to say what size as there are also rumors that apple is testing the new device in a shell very similar to iPhone 4 design as they are aware there will be leaks and people online are saying the new iPhone will have a completely new design and not the slightly longer iPhone 4 shells we see in leaks. But once again those are just rumors, we got to wait and see. Though I feel like the iPad mini might happen to compete with android 7 inch tablets but the iPad mini are targeted for a different audience I think, we just got to wait and see.
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Sounds to me like you are very comfortable with IOS and I don't see a problem with that. You've been open minded about trying Android and it doesn't work for you. Such is life.
Rather than try to find uses for your GNote, why not sell it. (Preferably before the release of the GNote II).
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+1 to all this
It isnt a crime to like iOS, it is a crime to use iOS just because everyone else is using it
fabu09 said:
Thank you guys for the reply especially msedek for that extremely pointless and useless comment that was so unconstructive. Pretty sure you are the troll here, unlike you I do own both an iPod and GNote and since like you said in your words 'you can do everything you are saying here and more with any android device...' how about you list the ways I can get what ever I like on iOS onto android. Pretty sure your not gonna reply so I'll just say it.... T R O L L . . .
Also thanks to THUDUK for the gay remark, you have fulfilled you part in the XDA forums, go celebrate!
As for the rest of guys, thanks for the replies (I really mean it and not sacarstic unlike to the other 2 morons I quoted). The think is I don't wanna sell my note because I still want to part own an Android but just use it as my main device. I also am still making payments for it, I bought it on a 2 year contract so don't wanna sell it while still paying for a device I can't use if I sold. I don't intend to use it as a tablet as I do own a iPad already, but since I got no intentions at all to sell my note I want to make use of it even after the phone switch.
At this point I don't know what size screen the next iPhone has but what ever size it is I will still be getting one because my iPod is close to fried, yesterday lock button stop working. So I literally need an iOS device (cas its my drug) and instead of just spending money on next gen iPod which becomes almost useless without wifi I want to get the iPhone just to keep it all in one. I actually was thinking and the note is pretty slim actually so I do intend to put a few TV shows and movies and take it with me for long journeys or trips and its big screen and 8 megapixels can come in great use to take pictures unless the next Gen iPhone has a 12 megapix then proabaly use that to take pics but anyways the device is pretty slim and not that much heavy for me to use it as a video player on the go. So I save battery on my phone watching videos on the note and I can do texts and calls without having to pause the video etc.
I still want to use my note as much as I can even after I get the iPhone. Also I really respect the most of you here who replied for actually understanding the point of this thread and not be like 'some other people and make plain stupid and meaningless remarks'... and gay comments also. So I'm final thing is very unlikely to sell my note as I'm still making payments for it and also I can use it as a backup if I lose my iPhone or send it for fixing or simply run out of battery. Once again I thank you guys for the replies and keep them coming, I have tried extensively both iOS and ics and prefer iOS more but doesn't mean android isn't good, it just isn't for me.
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Well Said.
I hate apple, but i have to agree that for some people it fit's better.
I can hate apple, but first i must respect others and their opinions. Get your new iphone,and be happy with both. As others said, Gnote still has a good selling value, that will drop once the Gnote2 comes out. But if you don't want to sell it, as a backup phone and media player is a good options. Iphone can be too small, but in the other hand ipad could be too big, so in that case, you will have your Gnote.
Also, with the codec's support on the note, and the size of the screen, it could be a nice media player, if phone network is not in use.
iCloud integration (contacts calendars being in sync) which I value so much-mac>address bok>preference>accounts>synchronize with google.....same for calendar
Photo streamdropbox autoupload camera photos option
iCloud backup so no need to plug to PC to backuptitanium backup>schedule backups>data backed up to sd cad or even sent to dropbox........so when u change roms.....u hav what u need
iTunes and app store that is available where I live unlike play store where I can't buy anything but games apps and not all of the are available to my phone specific. market enabler.....??? nd th books n songs donloaded frm itunes can b transferred to ur note
Pages app that keeps sync with my iPad using iCloud so I can switch between devices when doing workgoogle drive? dropbox? synced documents.......
And the cool new thing with just having to pull down the notification centre to update Fb statusreallly???? u wanna throw ur fone for this?? *A MOMENT OF SILENCE
All around dictionary built on so I just have to high light a word and tap define for meaning and not copy then paste on google REALLLY???? THR R SO MANY DICTIONARIES.....OUT THR
And reader feature on safari which is AMAZINGny browser can bookmark stuff for u my fav is XSCOPE it even had ad blocking
Good ol' iMessage :good::good::victory::laugh::silly:.......whats appp????? it is multi platform
I can go on the the list just gets longer and before you guys quote me and start saying, this apps replaces this feature and adding this method in replaces that thing or that's stupid and useless and not needed, I am used to the iOS system and the convenience of it. I know android also has its perks and due to the open source there is several rooms that you can pick from giving you different experiences with your phone.-yes i agree........3.5 inch screen is er...deal breaker:good::highfive:
Let's not argue on apple sucks and android rules or what not and get back to topic. I for one will be playing certain games OK my note instead because of the big screen like gta and Batman. So what other uses are there for the note?-here are other uses
1) longer battery
2) desktop eske browser experience
3) more than 4 words fit on th screen
4) wide screen gaming
5) black magic
6) teleportation
7) nuclear war
8) run faster than speed of light
9) revolve around th sun
10) okay i shall consider making another post for this ) :highfive:
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i dont mean to offfend u but u know galaxy note is my baby nd i love my baby :fingers-crossed::highfive:
chillteddy said:
iCloud integration (contacts calendars being in sync) which I value so much-mac>address bok>preference>accounts>synchronize with google.....same for calendar
Photo streamdropbox autoupload camera photos option
iCloud backup so no need to plug to PC to backuptitanium backup>schedule backups>data backed up to sd cad or even sent to dropbox........so when u change roms.....u hav what u need
iTunes and app store that is available where I live unlike play store where I can't buy anything but games apps and not all of the are available to my phone specific. market enabler.....??? nd th books n songs donloaded frm itunes can b transferred to ur note
Pages app that keeps sync with my iPad using iCloud so I can switch between devices when doing workgoogle drive? dropbox? synced documents.......
And the cool new thing with just having to pull down the notification centre to update Fb statusreallly???? u wanna throw ur fone for this?? *A MOMENT OF SILENCE
All around dictionary built on so I just have to high light a word and tap define for meaning and not copy then paste on google REALLLY???? THR R SO MANY DICTIONARIES.....OUT THR
And reader feature on safari which is AMAZINGny browser can bookmark stuff for u my fav is XSCOPE it even had ad blocking
Good ol' iMessage :good::good::victory::laugh::silly:.......whats appp????? it is multi platform
I can go on the the list just gets longer and before you guys quote me and start saying, this apps replaces this feature and adding this method in replaces that thing or that's stupid and useless and not needed, I am used to the iOS system and the convenience of it. I know android also has its perks and due to the open source there is several rooms that you can pick from giving you different experiences with your phone.-yes i agree........3.5 inch screen is er...deal breaker:good::highfive:
Let's not argue on apple sucks and android rules or what not and get back to topic. I for one will be playing certain games OK my note instead because of the big screen like gta and Batman. So what other uses are there for the note?-here are other uses
1) longer battery
2) desktop eske browser experience
3) more than 4 words fit on th screen
4) wide screen gaming
5) black magic
6) teleportation
7) nuclear war
8) run faster than speed of light
9) revolve around th sun
10) okay i shall consider making another post for this ) :highfive:
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i dont mean to offfend u but u know galaxy note is my baby nd i love my baby :fingers-crossed::highfive:
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Wow I really really appreciate you suggesting different alternates to iOS features on Android but they are all additional steps that may not be practical. First for the contacts and calendar syncing with Google on Mac, pretty sure you need to have your Mac switched on but either ways I don't have one (yet). As for the photo stream it isn't in the default photo app, you need to go to drop box to retrieve the pictures and once again you need the add on of drop box.
Titanium back up features don't work on trail version (I think) and again an add on app. Also I have tried market enabler, it does change the country for the play store, and only the playstore. Still don't get the TV shows and movies and books options. Also one thing o hate about android (no offense), don't know if its the OS or the apps but its probably the apps but anyways in music when there are 2 albums with the same names even though they are by different artist they share the same cover art and when I click on one of the similar titled album the tracks from the other similar titled albums are together. I have tries all the popular music apps so far and finally settled with Google music despite this issue because of the streaming service (which is really a game changer with androids). So to be less confusing I have 2 albums titled unbroken, one by Demi Lovato and another by Kathrine Mcphee and when I click on Demi's album both songs from Kathrine and Demi's album appear together and same goes when I click on Kat's unbroken album I see demi's track on the list too. Another example is Liberty X's and Kylie Minogue's X album. Oh also books form iTunes store don't work on android as they are Drm protected.
Google Drive isn't the same as Pages, the basic function are similar but they are not the same. Also Drive doesnt do PP and Excel. Same thing about them being in sync, add on app or it doesn't work. What's app isn't the same as iMessage as it doesn't allow sending HD videos and it doesn't work on multiple devices. For iMessage if I set it up on both my iPod and iPad when I get a message both devices get it and I can setup multiple emails as IDs for people to send texts and finally what's app doesn't work on Macs.
1 iPhones do have long battery lives depending on usage
2 Safari does have desktop browser experience and also Android doest have flash support anymore similar to iPhones.
3 more than 4 words do fit on the screen and a lot more depending on size and length of words and screen orientation.
4 willing to trade in wide screen gaming for a phone that gets the games way faster than android (couple months faster) and a phone that doesn't heat up so fast and make it super uncomfortable to continue playing and app store with wider variety of games.
5 don't practice it
6 love my car too much to teleport
7 not involved in it
8 hate running
9 earth does that for me
10 take your time!
Finally, dont worry I'm not offended but once again thank you for the post to suggest alternatives but its just mostly add on apps that don't work the same unlike iOS which just works!
The all around dictionary part, maybe you didn't get it but with iOS you just select a word and select define and it has the meaning so you don't need to leave the app and go to another dictionary app and tap paste than wait for the translation depending on your network speed. Thanks so far for the suggestion people keep them coming!
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Note 2 Research - I come in Peace
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Hey guys I'm doing research about the Galaxy Note 2 and iPhone 5 and have compiled a list of each devices advantages. Please I don't want no fan-boyish or trolling comments. Just want to do some peaceful research for a project im doing about the pros of both devices. If I have made some errors or forgotten something plz let me know. There must be something I have left out for the Iphone 5 ? Thanks
Galaxy Note 2
OS
Real multitasking ( (IOS tends to hang up apps in the background while android keeps them running,http://www.extremetech.com/computing...ndroid-and-iosAlso the actual multitasking menu is much more intuitive, with thumbnails ect)
advanced notification system (can expand messages, emails, reply, call back, acces screen brightness, wi fi, GPS, Bluetooth, Vibrate,screen rotation, short cuts, screen shots)
Open system-More freedom
More free apps
More sharing options
Better google integration (YouTube, Maps,Gmail)
Samsung intergration (TV, Printers)
Launchers
Lock screens
Live wallpapers
Keyboard apps
More Control Over the hardware ( GPS, Wi Fi, blutooth, toggles)
Easier adding Multimedia (no syncing required)
More built in Camera features
Built in Battery life analysis
Offline Dictation
Smart Alert (vibrates when being pick-up if you have missed call/msg)
Smart rotation (reads the orientation of your face, screen will always line up properly with the way you are holding the device.
Smart Dial (searches names and numbers simultaneously in the dialler with also a pic of the contact)
Direct Call (calls by placing hte phone near your head)
Pop up play
Buddy photo share (phone regonzies your freinds on photos for easer acces to them)
Multi burst
Advanced text prediction
Multi Window
Advanced built in photo gallery (GSMarena)
Most advanced built in video player ever (GSMarena)
More Intuitive Search bar ( Search bar widget, google predicition built in)
50 GB drop box
built-in reject list
Swipe to screen capture
Faster voice assistant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmixtB9dZM
Widgets
Torch
Email
Msg
facebook/ wtitter
Hardware toggles
Weather
News widgets
Music widgets
clock widgets
calender
notepad widget
Shortucts
Specs
Better audio quality (GSMarena)
Barometer sensor
LED indicator
RGB sensor
True blacks
Offline maps support
1.9 megapixel front camera
NFC
Dedicated digital back and multitasking buttons
microUSB 2.0 support
Vivid colors
FM radio
Removable battery
Faster upload
DLNA
Wi fi direct
Bluetooth Enhanced data rate/ low energy
USB storage
720 HD screen
Battery life
louder loudspeaker (GSMarena)
Wacom digitizer 1024 different levels of pressure sensitivity
More Durable
Bigger screen
Gaming
Reading ebooks
Reading Documents
Less scrolling
GPS Viewing
Photo Viewing
Web Browsing
Reading email
Video
Large apps ( flip board ect)
S Pen
Launch apps with gestures
Editing photos
Note taking
Creating sketches
Air View - preview , emails and text, preview videos
Easy Clip - crop and share
Enhanced calendar editing
Handwriting in messages
Built into the web browser like a mouse
More functionality with some apps (fruit ninja ect)
Create and share notes while talking on the phone
iPhone 5
Much easier one handed use
Much lighter
Higher PPi
Natural Whites
Better Contrast ratio (GSMarena)
Brighter (GSMarena)
Faster download
Better Low light camera
Premium feel (aluminium, Glass)
louder speakers (GSMarena)
Thinner
Headphone volume control
More accessories
OS
Voice assistant has more personality ( Jokes ect)
Better Apple integration (apple tv, Macs, Itunes ect)
less ad-ware on AppStore
Better exclusive apps
Cloud Backup
Better landscape typing
Direct Updates
Native Auto mobile Integration
Apps launch slightly faster
Don't expect this thread to stay civilized for long. (sadly).
My random comments:
Regarding the Samsung side:
Neither OS is a true multitasking OS by desktop standards.
what is 'samsung integration'? being able to connect directly to samsung printers/tvs?
You should be more specific about 'more control over (apps/hardware) if you're doing a paper.
why is it a better search bar?
include: better integrated map system
I don't believe the audio is better than the iphone.
'offline maps support' should not be in specs.
Both phones are 16:9.
what's a multitasking button? the home key?
'faster upload'? Is that true?
I don't know about 'more durable' than the iphone 5.
S-pen doesn't give fruit ninja any more functionality. It's just an alternate input device.
It is nice that it doesn't block your view as much though.
Regarding the iphone 5 side:
faster download? What does that mean?
Do apps really launch faster than on the Note 2?
Why does the iphone have better landscape typing?
You never see appstore comparisons android vs iOS anymore. They both have hundreds of thousands of apps, good and bad.
I'm not a fanboy, I enjoy all technology and I think Apple make some wonderful devices. I don't own either phone but here's my own way of looking at them...
Size: the main way these two phones differ is size. Do you use your phone more as a phone (texting/calling) or computer tasks like browsing the internet, emailing or playing games? I would say the iPhone is superior as a phone simply because its smaller, better for one handed usage. The Note 2 is better due to the multi-tasking, larger screen and expandable storage as a computation device.
OS: I consider iOs as well polished, but a bit out of date. It doesn't offer widget support and you can't even install different launchers. Android has the customisation.
Hey thanks for the reply
Neither OS is a true multitasking OS by desktop standards.
True compared to desktop but android does handle multitasking better as IOS tends to hang up apps in the background while android keeps them running
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112013-how-multitasking-works-on-android-and-ios
Also the actuall multitasking menu is much better
what is 'samsung integration'? being able to connect directly to samsung printers/tvs?
Yes
why is it a better search bar?
Well its allot more flexible as its a widget you can place it anyway for easier access and I believe it has Google predictive text built in
include: better integrated map system
hmm maybe better Google integration already covers that? (Google maps)
I don't believe the audio is better than the iphone.
"Note II produced one of the cleanest outputs we have seen from a mobile device and that includes the recently tested Apple iPhone 5" (GSMarena)
what's a multitasking button? the home key?
ah I think I meant the menu button
'faster upload'? Is that true?
Yea well all the speed tests have the Iphone winning in Downloads and the Note winning in Uploads
I don't know about 'more durable' than the iphone 5.
All the drop tests have the Note 2 winning
Why does the iphone have better landscape typing?
The note 2 becomes too wide when holding it in landscape
hmm so you dont think Having less low quality apps is a positive because there too many apps anyway?
Hey guys I also posted this on the Iphone forums as well and he says that 50% of the positives for the Note 2 are wrong but he wont clarify what?
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Hey guys I'm doing research about the Galaxy Note 2 and iPhone 5 and have compiled a list of each devices advantages.
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include: better integrated map system
hmm maybe better Google integration already covers that? (Google maps)
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Google Navigation is not just maps.
It is way better than Tomtom and Copilot and is completey free and updated frequently(almost daily).
It includes satelite view maps and many other highly advanced features.
Galaxy Note 2
Specs
HDMI full HD video out.
USB storage OTG
SD card(and hot swappable)
Removable battery
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louder loudspeaker (GSMarena)
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Also a higher SN ratio, though not as high as others.
Bigger screen
Blacker blacks and lower battery usage due to amoLED's.
S Pen
It is way faster to input with the s-pen and swype compared to tapping a keyboard with fingers.
Asian language speakers can use character recognition.
There is a function to tap and drag which makes selecting ranges easier within the calendar.
This may have been removed from Note 2.
The s-pen is a very accurate input device unlike a finger.
iPhone 5
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Much easier one handed use
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The Note and Note 2 have a setting where keyboards can be downsized and moved left or right.
This makes one handed use the same as on any small screened phone.
This voids the claim that iphone is somehow more sensible for having such as small screen.
Really, apple have no shame and will stoop to anything i their ads.
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Higher PPi
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The retina sceen is a hoax.
Viewing distance is critical with resolution, e.g. ppi on apple's larger "retina" screens drops to 260ppi as they are made for viewing further away.
The eye cannot distinguish resolution above 300ppi anyway and having a small screen means you would have to hold it very close to notice even slight differences to an amoled screen.
In the real world, people don't do this with their phone, so what is the point of Retina?
It is just an apple marketing wank.
Buyer beware.
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Better Contrast ratio (GSMarena)
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But milkier blacks
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Premium feel (aluminium, Glass)
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Once you put a phone in a case, it has the feel of the case.
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louder speakers (GSMarena)
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and noisier.
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Better Apple integration (apple tv, Macs, Itunes ect)
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This is only a plus if you are living behind the walled garden.
Once you break free, you will find out how the rest of the world lives, with cooperation and compatibility between technologies. I have experienced both(macuser 15 years ago) and will always choose freedom over patronising appletalk.
Be frank, many people I know complain bitterly about itunes.
The imcompatibilty with other technologies is offensive to others like myself and a burden to apple users.
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Not for me. I have big fingers and hands.
And when using swype, the larger keyboard is better.
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Direct Updates
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And the difference is?
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Native Auto mobile Integration
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Not with Hondas.
My Note integrates brilliantly with my Honda's blutooth for calls and music.
Do you know how much it irks me as an adroid user to see ads for iphone integration in cars and bank apps etc?
Especially now that Android users actually outnumber ios.
About the fanboy thing.
Apple's got it coming.
Their arrogance and dishonesty are being met by quiet but resolute competition from Android and others.
I'm just not a fan of apple.
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The Note and Note 2 have a setting where keyboards can be downsized and moved left or right.
This makes one handed use the same as on any small screened phone.
In the real world, people don't do this with their phone, so what is the point of Retina?
It is just an apple marketing wank
Once you put a phone in a case, it has the feel of the case.
And when using swype, the larger keyboard is better.
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The one handed keyboard setting is only of use if you use the stock keyboard/dialer/etc. I don't. Smaler screens win for one handed use. Period.
Higher Ppi is an apple advantage if you are being honest. How significant that advantage is is up to debate. As you said it depends on how close you hold your phone and how good your eyes are.
We are comparing phones not cases. Apple wins that one hands down.
Aaron from phone dog commented that his swype slowed down because there is more ground to cover. There are pros and cons.
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Yeah, it's kind of irrelevant. If you have so many apps that it is impossible to look at them all, then the only thing that is relevant is whether you can find apps that do what you want.
I think ios still retains the advantage in terms of getting newest programs first since there are less compatibility issues.
And in response to your other post - if they won't be specific about what the don't consider an advantage then they might just be trolling.
Keep in mind that certain features could be both advantages and disadvantages depending on the what you want to do.
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That's because they are not desktops. But the note 2 offers great multitasking on a mobile device, people are never really happy but I love the multi window feature, in my opinion that is awesome multitasking.
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Why does the iphone have better landscape typing?
The note 2 becomes too wide when holding it in landscape
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This is subjective.
For me and likely many others, the larger screen provides a more comfortable landscape typing experience because the hands are less cramped together.
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Why does the iphone have better landscape typing?
The note 2 becomes too wide when holding it in landscape
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Given that Android allows you to have multiple installed keyboards which you can easily switch between, I cannot see how the iPhone can win here.
That being said, I have average side hands and have no problems with the stock keyboard in landscape anyway, but I do use a split keyboard on my Nexus 7.
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I am also confused between two.Note 2 has notification led too.I love them.But note 2 is too big for me .(why its bigger than note,which fell off and broke ,so I bought iphone4s 7 months back.
So can anyone think of any benefits to the iphone 5 ????
Obviously the iphone 5 makes you look really cool .
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So can anyone think of any benefits to the iphone 5 ????
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Sure. The iphone is smaller, more portable, and a simpler device. If my parents wanted a smartphone, God forbid, I would probably get them an iphone.
There is no denying that what the iphone does, it does very very well. (till they screwed up maps). Comparing the note 2 took the iphone is a little weird. The iphone is like a cute BMW 2 seat convertible. The note 2 is more like an lexus SUV. They're just different markets.
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If you listen to music the IPhone has a lot of benefits, especially in the ease with which you can construct and sync play lists and generally manage music files.
One huge problem with the Note and indeed all Android 4.1.1 phones is that there is no way to adjust the volume via headphone controls any more, as Google has reserved the long button press for Google voice search. You actually have to take the phone out of your pocket to adjust volume.
I actually went up and played with an IPhone 5 yesterday as these issues with my Note 2 are a PITA, but I found that the sound quality was roughly the same or perhaps even better on the Note 2. I've ordered some simcard adapters and when they arrive I may try to live with both phones until the bugs in the Note 2 are ironed out.
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Sure. The iphone is smaller, more portable, and a simpler device. If my parents wanted a smartphone, God forbid, I would probably get them an iphone.
There is no denying that what the iphone does, it does very very well. (till they screwed up maps). Comparing the note 2 took the iphone is a little weird. The iphone is like a cute BMW 2 seat convertible. The note 2 is more like an lexus SUV. They're just different markets.
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exactamondo!
does anyone hear have much experience with IOS6, its just my final list has sooo much more Note 2 advantages, there has to be something on Ios6 that's better or exclusive, anything big or small????
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does anyone hear have much experience with IOS6, its just my final list has sooo much more Note 2 advantages, there has to be something on Ios6 that's better or exclusive, anything big or small????
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You're best off asking this in an iphone forum.
First of I want to clarify, I own both an iOS( New iPad ) and Android ( Galaxy R and getting the Note 2 soon ) device. So I am giving you a fair and unbiased review.
To tell you honestly your iPhone experience will vary according to the country you live in. So the OP has to specify where he lives.
Now I live in India, there is no iTunes Online Store available here except for the App Store. So we don't really have a way have a way in which we can download Music, Movies, TV Shows on the phone. We have to go through iTunes each time to get simple stuff as Music on the phone. Which is annoying. Now if we had the iTunes Store things would have been a bit different. Plus there is no Bluetooth file transfer on the iPhone which is a bummer because it has no file system support. Their cloud back up solution ( iCloud ) is great for App data, for me otherwise its quite useless for people in India. If you live in the few countries where iTunes Store is available you have an excellent way of enjoying your phone with never having to plug into iTunes thanks to iCloud.
Next iOS 6 Maps app is useless in India. It has absolutely no functionality here. If you are living in one those countries where the Maps is enabled well, its a different issue. You might love it or hate it. There was a recent leak where a developer got his hands on an alpha build of Google Maps for iPhone. Now if Apple approves it, this issue will be reduntant in a few months. If you can wait and hope Apple approves it, then be my guest. I really hope they do. Besides I really think Google Maps is way way better with Street View and Voice Navigation, the latter of which has been enabled in India. It will take Apple atleast a few years before they catch up to the functionality of Google Maps.
Next is app quality, there is no denying iOS is hands down the winner here. There developer support is incredible. Lots of exclusive apps, games etc. Even the native Facebook app has come on iOS first. People might get pissed at me for saying this but a lot of apps on Play Store are crap, baring a few exceptional ones. For example Safari. One annoying thing I find on Android is that no website gives HTML 5 video out of the box. They assume you have flash, which is stupid. Even Chrome can't handle it well. For me Safari trumps in functionality but in terms of features Chrome wins. I hope Google has fixed this in Jelly Bean, because Flash is no longer supported.
Next Customization, there is absolutely nothing you can do on iOS besides changing the wallpaper and making folders, unless of course you Jailbreak then you can tweak a bit more, but that to is very limited. I use NCSettings to get a simple thing as toggles for Wi-Fi and other stuff in Notification Centre on iOS. Android wins here fair and square. Most of the stuff for which you would jailbreak your iPhone for will come out of the box in any Android Phone. Don't get me started on the ton of stuff you can do once you Root your Android phone. Widgets, New Launchers etc are another plus.
Now I haven't tried Jelly Bean yet, but I find iOS the most smooth, well polished and stable operating system out there. The iPhone is dual core not quad core ( this is very subjective it actually depends on the architecture of the processor but still ) the speed at which it launches apps and switches between them is butter smooth. It has always been since its first iteration in 2007. With Jelly Bean I have heard its pretty much the same now, Android has finally caught up and I believe exceeded iOS in terms of functionality and getting stuff done.
No expandable storage on iPhone might be a bummer to most. Galaxy Note 2 has expandable storage.
My conclusion is, if you are fine living in Apple's wall garden, you will have an Amazing experience with the iPhone. Like Steve Jobs said, "It just works". Otherwise you will pretty much hate it. Besides iOS really going stale, its getting out dated. If you go from iPhone 4 to iPhone 5, the software hasn't changed much. It looks the same. If you love tweaking, customizing and do what you want with your phone go Android. And for where I live here in India, iPhone pretty much is really cumbersome, to having through iTunes each time makes me cringe, no Maps support is another bummer. I love the way in which Android allows me to do what I want,sure I really miss the app quality of iOS, I have my iPad to take care of that, but I would pick functionality and sacrifice a little bit of quality any day.
I hope this helped you make a decision.
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This might be a plus for iPhone.
You know what to expect. When you grab your friend or family members phone to make a call on or whatever it looks like most other iPhones you have picked up. If you like this type of thing then the predictability is good.
The apple eco system is not all bad. Younger brother has all apple products and they work great together. Just stay in their eco system and it's mostly all good if you like cookie cutter devices.
I personally think the iPhone 5 feels very nice in my hand.
This might not be the best wording but iOS is almost idiot proof. Nothing I have ever done to my phone (ip4) left it completely unusable. First time really playing with droid I was not so lucky.
My contract is over soon, and it is a great time to get a new phone because I have so many choices being a Verizon owner. When I saw the HTC 8X i fell in love with the design. It apparently fits great in the hand, feels thin, and is silky smooth in terms of hardware.
However, I knew i needed more options, so, being a current Android user and loving its software, I started to anticipate the HTC DROID DNA, a 5' 1080p beast of a phone supposedly coming out around the same time as the 8X (end of November). I continued to do research on both and found out that I like the WP8 Start Screen a lot more than I like Android's homescreens.
But I am afraid of the software of WP8. It's great and all, but I may miss the PhotoSphere, live widgets, quick settings, apps (!!), and outstanding developer support that Android offered. I'm afraid I will need those features down the line and not be able to use them with my WP8 device. I have a Surface and a Zune and want integration. However, Android has SkyDrive and Xbox Music available in Google Play.
So I'm kind of in a pickle right now. I want integration and functionality, but Android has everything and then some. Help guys! What do you suggest I do? Stay on Android or switch to WP8? Personal experiences would be helpful; however, blanket statements/generalizations will not be tolerated because I hate them very much. Also because there are always two sides to those statements, and I want this to be a friendly thread, not one that I am going to regret posting. Thanks in advance for your help, guys!
I suggest you start using paragraphs.
You have a lot of apps in the windows phone marketplace. Probably not with the same name, but if you need something, you usually find that something.
IMO, Windows Phone is vastly superior to android in many, many ways. They give you a lot more control over your devices (apps can't do things behind your back without your approval unlike on android), the system is a lot more stable, the battery life is usually better due to hardware optimizations, and much more smooth. I suggest you pick a nokia instead though, they have great apps in there, including free music downloads through nokia music.
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I suggest you start using paragraphs.
You have a lot of apps in the windows phone marketplace. Probably not with the same name, but if you need something, you usually find that something.
IMO, Windows Phone is vastly superior to android in many, many ways. They give you a lot more control over your devices (apps can't do things behind your back without your approval unlike on android), the system is a lot more stable, the battery life is usually better due to hardware optimizations, and much more smooth. I suggest you pick a nokia instead though, they have great apps in there, including free music downloads through nokia music.
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I would've wanted the L920, but I'm not waiting 6 months for it to come to Verizon. Nokia apps aren't necessary for me; I don't drive and don't really use Maps too often.
Drive and maps aren't the only things nokia has. In fact, these two are available to all windows phones 8.
I don't need them, tbh. However, I'd be happy to take them if a high-end Nokia phone came out on Verizon. Anyway, off-topic. What about Xbox Music and SkyDrive? They are on both Android and WP8.
i really like the new devices. im sure once microsoft sees how they sell apps and such will be growing. im on the same boat although im not ready for an upgrade for another year and a half these new phones will be plenty caught up with development and should be pretty similar to all these new phones coming out within the next few months.
I'm due for an upgrade with Verizon in December. I was looking at Nokia 920. Too bad it's not Available Until 6 months.
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So you guys are saying that i won't miss out on all the features of Android?
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You physically cannot tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a small screen that is found on a phone (think like 26 to 32 inches is where you can start seeing it)
Just so the screen resolution isn't what sways your final choice.
However I find myself missing my WP a lot ever since it broke and I got stuck with the GS3. For me WP is just better. Specifically the keyboard is way better in WP.
As for applications WP has all the ones I use anyways. Fun fact I find I use my android less than I used my WP. I think its because for me it seems to take longer to get to the application I want to use and it feels that android has less smooth scrolling than WP. Of course I'm on stock which is probably why its slow, but my WP was stock too.
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I don't need them, tbh. However, I'd be happy to take them if a high-end Nokia phone came out on Verizon. Anyway, off-topic. What about Xbox Music and SkyDrive? They are on both Android and WP8.
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Both of them will obviously be on WP, since they are microsoft's creation. You will also like Nokia Music -> free unlimited music.
PhotoSphere seems to me to be very similar to Microsoft's Photosynth which has been available for iOS and Windows Phone for a long time.
Concerning Apps I would suggest you ask around the forums for particular Apps that you need, so people can tell you wether they exist or if there is a viable Alternative. XBox Music will be coming to additional platforms but as far as I know it currently isn't available and following Microsoft's track record with those things you will have it available on iOS months before it arrives on Android.
SkyDrive is available as an App on Android. The difference in usage is in the integration. SkyDrive Images show up in the Pictures Hub pretty much the same as if they were on the device itself. I just drop an Image into the according folder on my PC and it shows up where all my pictures show up. It's the same with office documents (if you use those).
So while the functionality itself is there on Android the experience of using it is superior on Windows Phone. But this works the other way round as well. While GMail works reasonably well on WP it simply works better with the GMail App on Android.
Wow. I'm getting really excited for my 8X now. Thanks guys!
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I'm kinda in the same boat as OP. Currently enjoying my Galaxy Nexus but I'm mad that it's got VZW's taint all over it. Does Microsoft handle the updates for WP8 and doesn't take BS carriers when it comes to pushing them out? I like constant security updates, and Android just can't seem to handle that.
I want a Nokia because I've heard they're great but the 822's display won't cut it with it's resolution for me if it's anything like PenTile. I'm thinking about ditching VZW when my contract is up if it doesn't get the Nexus 4 (doubtful it will) so I don't know if I'd use my upgrade on any of VZW's WP8 lineup. The Nexus 4 still has these beat when it comes to unsubsidized pricing.
The only other thing keeping me from WP8 is that I heard there was a lack of a good turn-by-turn app and no notification center. Both of these are kind of turn-offs. But the UX, fluidity, Start, and Microsoft-handled updates are quite enticing.
Same dilemmas for me guys. I'm working at Nokia and have tested both new Lumia devices and they really are awesome. While I like the design of the 820 and how it feels in the hand, the display of the 920 is far superior. The 820 has just an average display imo, it is bright but not very sharp, given the low res and poor pixel density (217 lol..). Other than that it is quite the smooth operator and really a pleasure to handle. The thing about it's big brother is that it is kind of uncomfortable to hold and I don't like the rather sharp edges.
I am now debating with myself if I should go for a WP8 device since the OS is just awesome or get one of these http://android-sale.com/xiaomi-phone-2.html as soon as it becomes available. You cannot deny the bang for your buck with these, though I am a bit afraid when it comes to warranty and customer support + you cannot really play with the device beforehand. I was waiting for the new Nexus but I think it is disappointing and especially fragile with that glass backcover. I was even considering an iphone because of the smoothness since I've really grown to hate the android lag which is present even on latest quad cores....But after using a 4S for a whole evening I cannot imagine myself doing this daily, it is just too limiting and I fail to see how people say it is so 'easy' and it 'just works' - well it just works with more steps than android or wp...But that is another topic of course.
As for the apps, I am currently using around 40-50 apps on my droid and all of them (EXCEPT DROPBOX, mind you..) are available on WP. The development frameworks for WP8 and the support for DirectX, and also the shared core with windows 8 will surely attract alot of devs and app number will grow in the coming year. I have to say that the windows phone store might not have so many offerings, but the design, fluidity and and general look is just stunning. So is the whole WP8 ui. For example, I think the so much praised iOS app store looks terrible and is a pain to navigate throug. Play Store on the other hand is very functional and easy to use but looks plain and boring.
Well well, this is my pov, I think I will be getting a WP after all but let's see. Maybe I will buy the xiaomi device if it is possible, simply because of the price/spec ratio + I love MIUI, since it is as if you are not using android.
You don't need dropbox, you have skydrive.
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You don't need dropbox, you have skydrive.
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I have to disagree with you, dropbox is very light and useful, also a lot of users have quite some storage space on dropbox and would like to have it available. Not to mention that I know a friend of mine has a small company where they run 100Gb+ shared dropbox folders full of working data. They sure cannot force all employees to go windows phone because of skydrive or the other way around. So yeah, lack of dropbox IS a big minus.
You still have dropbox on WP. just checked xD
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You still have dropbox on WP. just checked xD
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Isn't it some 3rd party app? Btw I think I'm fully converted now, just played around with the city lens app and tried some offline maps. **** is ca$h
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Wow. I'm getting really excited for my 8X now. Thanks guys!
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Hi Dadstar, I recently switched from a Lumina 710 (Windows 7.8) to a Samsung Galaxy Note II (Android-Jelly Bean) and I will give you some of my perceptions.
1. Note II is a remarkable phone, unbelievable screen, and some really cool apps.
2. Lumina 710 was a solid phone, but after the screen size of the Note II, I could never go back and settle for a small screen.
That being said, the Lumina 710 is way ahead of the Note II in voice dialing over bluetooth. I would never have to get my Lumina out of my pocket to make a call (I have about 1200 contacts in Outlook with multiple listings for each), but with the Note II, it is a constant battle of it being slow to decide who it thinks I want to call and then gives me multiple choices on the screen. So it really defeats the role of voice dialing over bluetooth and that is a deal breaker for me and I am sending the Note II back within the 14 day trial period. Hopefully, Tmobile will come out with a new Windows 8 phone soon. Ken B.
Google announced Nexus 4 for 350$! Thats a steal..but as the dust settled, and the picture became clearer, it is for anything but that price..So, I am with the OP on this one too...
8X or N4??
On one side, you have a large display, quad core processor et all...and on the other you have a dual core, with the same sized screen as I have now. Also, with Android, there are tons of apps and games I can get (sometimes for free).
SO, Will i sacrifice a smoother OS for an OS that may not be that smooth but has tons of other features...?
I feel like this is going to belong. Apologies. (feel free to skip to......)
When I turned 18 in '07, I purchased my first smartphone which happened to be the first generation iPhone on launch day. Since then, I've continued on this strange road with Apple products. That iPhone opened my eyes. It was my everything. Since then, I've had every iPhone (including my purchased & returned iPhone 5.) I am currently using a 4s and am unhappy with it. Well, not unhappy. I don't know the word. I'm just satisfied with it. Not happy, not enthusiastic about it. It's just... there.
My tenure with the iPhone hasn't always been grand. In 2009, my iPhone 3Gs took the biggest crap on me. I ended up replacing it 3 times. When it messed up for a 4th time, I decided that I'd switch to Blackberry. What was Android anyway? it was such a knockoff to my superior iPhone. I stayed with Blackberry for 10 months before going back to an iPhone. This time it was the iPhone 4. I loved it, until I didn't.
In 2011, I finally dumped my iPhone (for what appeared to be the last time) for my first Android phone, the Motorola Atrix. I did everything to hate that phone for the next three months... That was until I loved Android (with the help of this website and forum). Earlier that year, I started working a job at a cell phone retailer and began to learn Android in and out. I got to play with the coolest phones. We don't sell any Apple products, by the way, so it was all Android.
I thought I was done with Apple, that is until the 4s. I ditched my Atrix and newly acquired Droid X2 for the iPhone 4s. I felt bad as if I were regressing to a horrible drug after being sober for so long. Now a year has passed and I see that I've completely effed up.
(....here) I am currently in the market for a new phone. I've purchased the Nexus 4 and I'm waiting for the 5-to-6 weeks to pass until I get it. The thing is, that I'm so used to my iPhone that I'm afraid it will be a frustrating adjustment for me and this device will end up being a $400 (more like $383.93) paperweight. I've watched every unboxing and comparison video that I could find on YouTube and have read as many threads that my eyes could take on XDA.
I can spew out specs for days. Hell, I'm a salesman. I know the flagship phones in and out because I am setting them up all day and fixing issues for customers. It's always fun when they ask me what phone I'm using... Oops?
Are there any Nexus 4 users that switched from an iPhone? What features do you miss? Does the Nexus 4 adequately make the transition seamless?
I'm just looking for a bit of real life users and not a bunch of reviewers on YouTube and LG Reps at my job sounding extra robotic about the phone.
Thanks!
(Kudos if you read this whole thing. Seriously. K-U-D-O-S.)
Nexus is the closest thing to iphone you will ever find in the android world. Fast updates, excellent HW/SW integration, etc.
This year I've had a lot of phones, iphone 4 > sensation > GS2 > atrix > GS2 > GNex > GS3 > nokia e5 > Nexus 4, and a lot of iphones 4S, and no one gets close to a nexus.
Trust me, you could never go wrong with a Nexus
I don't fit in the criterion for responders, but hopefully you can appreciate my contribution.
It's very rare that you'll find an iOS feature that isn't implemented on Android. It's usually the other way around.
Anand Shimpi describes the two operating systems better than I can: iOS is an appliance and Android is an OS. With iOS, you have to work with what you're given and the phone is a tool, in the same way a toaster oven is really convenient for a lot of purposes. However, Android is the whole damn kitchen. It's a real OS and gives you the opportunities to do precisely what you want done.
On iOS, jailbreaking is a bit daunting due to the loss of Appstore access and security features. I've also heard that stability is notably worse. However, rooting on Android is a very common and standard process. It's akin to providing yourself an administrative account on Windows, as opposed to a kid's account with limited access and abilities.
In all likelihood, there's not a thing you'll miss about iOS that isn't identically fulfilled by system and third party apps. Except in the case of a few select games and apps (Hype Machine is one that comes to mind) Android equivalents are just that: the same app, but for a different platform.
Now for my bias: I think of iPhones as glorified dumb phones. Widgets are essential for me, and the modularity of the system allows you to actually use an OS fit to your liking. In don't see a functional difference between iPhones today and the Sony Ericsson phone I had on 2003. Both just run apps and give extremely limited access to the file system. I want a real file explorer, and apps that can utilize libs/APIs that significantly improve performance (the reason why iOS browsers not based on Safari suck). I want to install apps that replicate system functions, and do so in better ways. Sometimes, in illegal ways (WiFi sniffing and unpaid tethering), but it's my choice whether or not to do them.
I don't think you'll miss anything about the iPhone. At first, you may think Android is a little clunky, nonstandard, or even un-navigable. But just give it time and you'll come to appreciate the difference between the two OSes. One provides a great out-of-the-box experience that can't be tinkered with, but everything will be generally familiar. The other provides nearly complete freedom to change how you use the phone, at the cost of a dictatorial structure. I prefer the latter, as no phone OS is even close to what I want. Android let's me add, remove, and modify itself to let me get a little closer to having a desktop in my pocket.
raul90 said:
Nexus is the closest thing to iphone you will ever find in the android world. Fast updates, excellent HW/SW integration, etc.
This year I've had a lot of phones, iphone 4 > sensation > GS2 > atrix > GS2 > GNex > GS3 > nokia e5 > Nexus 4, and a lot of iphones 4S, and no one gets close to a nexus.
Trust me, you could never go wrong with a Nexus
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From my job, I have an extensive in-store experience with all of those, except for the E5. There is a HUGE difference from setting someone's phone up, showing them a bit of cool features, and then having them sign a contract, as opposed to actually owning it and going home with the device to make it your own.
I love the ability to make drag and drop folders that ICS added. I'm hoping to get the same clean experience that I've gotten used to, but I just want more. iOS isn't cutting it anymore.
I will miss the keyboard, though.
Hung0702 said:
I don't fit in the criterion for responders, but hopefully you can appreciate my contribution.
It's very rare that you'll find an iOS feature that isn't implemented on Android. It's usually the other way around.
Anand Shimpi describes the two operating systems better than I can: iOS is an appliance and Android is an OS. With iOS, you have to work with what you're given and the phone is a tool, in the same way a toaster oven is really convenient for a lot of purposes. However, Android is the whole damn kitchen. It's a real OS and gives you the opportunities to do precisely what you want done.
On iOS, jailbreaking is a bit daunting due to the loss of Appstore access and security features. I've also heard that stability is notably worse. However, rooting on Android is a very common and standard process. It's akin to providing yourself an administrative account on Windows, as opposed to a kid's account with limited access and abilities.
In all likelihood, there's not a thing you'll miss about iOS that isn't identically fulfilled by system and third party apps. Except in the case of a few select games and apps (Hype Machine is one that comes to mind) Android equivalents are just that: the same app, but for a different platform.
Now for my bias: I think of iPhones as glorified dumb phones. Widgets are essential for me, and the modularity of the system allows you to actually use an OS fit to your liking. In don't see a functional difference between iPhones today and the Sony Ericsson phone I had on 2003. Both just run apps and give extremely limited access to the file system. I want a real file explorer, and apps that can utilize libs/APIs that significantly improve performance (the reason why iOS browsers not based on Safari suck). I want to install apps that replicate system functions, and do so in better ways. Sometimes, in illegal ways (WiFi sniffing and unpaid tethering), but it's my choice whether or not to do them.
I don't think you'll miss anything about the iPhone. At first, you may think Android is a little clunky, nonstandard, or even un-navigable. But just give it time and you'll come to appreciate the difference between the two OSes. One provides a great out-of-the-box experience that can't be tinkered with, but everything will be generally familiar. The other provides nearly complete freedom to change how you use the phone, at the cost of a dictatorial structure. I prefer the latter, as no phone OS is even close to what I want. Android let's me add, remove, and modify itself to let me get a little closer to having a desktop in my pocket.
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"Glorified dumb phone" -- Couldn't have put it better.
Right now, I'm at the point where customizations are so limited with my iPhone. I want widgets and I want to be able to move my icons where I want them and not be locked to this stupid grid. I've also ALWAYS complained about downloading apps and being kicked out of the app store to my desktop to watch the damned thing download and install. Now that they've added the ability to stay in the app store, it seems like "too little, too late."
I haven't even bothered with jailbreaking my 4s, because I know it still won't do the things that I've seen Android OS phones do.
I feel like I've reached my peak with my iPhone experience and I'd prefer so much more. I just don't want it to feel like some huge trade off because of the little idiosyncratic things that iOS has done for me. It's been very intuitive. I only used Android 2.3 for 5 months before going back to an iPhone. I didn't do much with it other than complain for 2 and a half months! LOL!
From what I hear, 4.2 on the Nexus is the best Android experience yet. That's what made me purchase it without even having a handson experience with it yet.
I came over from iOS, after being with the operating system since my first smart phone, the iPhone 3GS. (I had the 4S just before).
I'm very enthralled by my tech gadgets, and the iPhone is no exception. I jailbroke it, tweaked it to my liking, and have been content with its functionality. However, when I saw the price of this phone--also it's factory unlocked--I thought this would be a perfect opportunity to try out Android. I was a bit apprehensive at first to switch over to something completely new, but for me, the transition has been seamless.
I actually avoid much of the cloud-based systems from Apple because I have been with Google to begin with, so the integration of contacts, email, and music were such a relief, and extremely useful. The widgets in Android are analogous to Dashboard X, if you are familiar, but so much better because of their native integration.
I received my Nexus 4 the week of release, and I haven't run into any problems since then. The customization is just as awesome--if you're into that--and it's actually much better on Android because of the limitations set by iOS.
Hopefully this is useful! I'll be happy to provide any more insight if you need.
Zaimojin said:
I came over from iOS, after being with the operating system since my first smart phone, the iPhone 3GS. (I had the 4S just before).
I'm very enthralled by my tech gadgets, and the iPhone is no exception. I jailbroke it, tweaked it to my liking, and have been content with its functionality. However, when I saw the price of this phone--also it's factory unlocked--I thought this would be a perfect opportunity to try out Android. I was a bit apprehensive at first to switch over to something completely new, but for me, the transition has been seamless.
I actually avoid much of the cloud-based systems from Apple because I have been with Google to begin with, so the integration of contacts, email, and music were such a relief, and extremely useful. The widgets in Android are analogous to Dashboard X, if you are familiar, but so much better because of their native integration.
I received my Nexus 4 the week of release, and I haven't run into any problems since then. The customization is just as awesome--if you're into that--and it's actually much better on Android because of the limitations set by iOS.
Hopefully this is useful! I'll be happy to provide any more insight if you need.
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Your train of thought seemed to be the same as mine. I saw the price-point and that it was unlocked and figured "what the heck?" This could be my only opportunity to try something new for such an awesome price. I spend that kind of money on my newest iPhone models plus a case to be locked into AT&T (snow Sprint... whew! Don't get me STARTED) to have the same features that I've already had.
The price point is enough trade off for me to buy out of my contract with Sprint and utilize one of the dealer-lines that I get for working where I do. They all require me to provide my own phone, so this is the perfect chance to do so.
As far as customizations, I haven't done anything since my 3Gs because I haven't jailbroken my 4 or 4s. I would LOVE to do more. It's just so hard to get anything done when your have the stock icons and a stock grid. Hell, my Mars Blackmon "theme" is all kinds of ruined (see the attachment). I'm anxious to get into a few more things.
Also, I, like you, have been using google since the days of the invite. So, I'm pretty sure that will be EASY AS EVER to get all of my contacts and stuff over. I'm excited about that. The thing is, I'm so deep into the Apple ecosystem. For example, my iPhone notes automatically update on my MacBook. The same goes for reminders and notifications. I like that. I feel like I'm going to miss that a lot.
Oh, and how's the music player? I'm really OCD when it comes to the organization of the music on my phone.
I don't mind not having expandable memory or LTE. Hell, I haven't had it for this long. LOL! HSPA+ will be a huge improvement over my 0.23mbps averaging Speed Tests on Sprint's network.
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Your train of thought seemed to be the same as mine. I saw the price-point and that it was unlocked and figured "what the heck?" This could be my only opportunity to try something new for such an awesome price. I spend that kind of money on my newest iPhone models plus a case to be locked into AT&T (snow Sprint... whew! Don't get me STARTED) to have the same features that I've already had.
The price point is enough trade off for me to buy out of my contract with Sprint and utilize one of the dealer-lines that I get for working where I do. They all require me to provide my own phone, so this is the perfect chance to do so.
As far as customizations, I haven't done anything since my 3Gs because I haven't jailbroken my 4 or 4s. I would LOVE to do more. It's just so hard to get anything done when your have the stock icons and a stock grid. Hell, my Mars Blackmon "theme" is all kinds of ruined (see the attachment). I'm anxious to get into a few more things.
Also, I, like you, have been using google since the days of the invite. So, I'm pretty sure that will be EASY AS EVER to get all of my contacts and stuff over. I'm excited about that. The thing is, I'm so deep into the Apple ecosystem. For example, my iPhone notes automatically update on my MacBook. The same goes for reminders and notifications. I like that. I feel like I'm going to miss that a lot.
Oh, and how's the music player? I'm really OCD when it comes to the organization of the music on my phone.
I don't mind not having expandable memory or LTE. Hell, I haven't had it for this long. LOL! HSPA+ will be a huge improvement over my 0.23mbps averaging Speed Tests on Sprint's network.
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I can empathize with you with syncing of notes/reminders/things Google doesn't handle because I have an iPad as well. It wasn't too huge of a loss for me because I use a Windows laptop, and my school email is integrated with gmail so the tasks work well. It definitely is something to consider though since you have a MacBook.
If I were in your shoes, it would be difficult to lose all those features because of convenient it makes everything. I'm guessing real world testing will be the only way for you to decide if you can be without it or not.
As far as the music player, I'm particularly OCD about the organization as well. It's not bad, nor is it exceptional; it does what it needs to. Since getting the Nexus, I've uploaded my music into Google Music and have been streaming it all since then--I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan from the 3GS--and it hasn't given me much issues.
The only thing I can say for certain that I sorely miss is music controls via the hardware volume buttons. I used them all the time to avoid taking my phone out of my pocket, or looking at my phone while driving. Fortunately, the feature should be brought back with ROMs in the near future, so there's not really much encouraging me to go back to my 4S.
I actually bought the 16 gb Nexus 4 because the 8 gb wasn't enough space, and I've sold the 8gb while waiting for the 16 gb to come in. I'm using my 4S again tentatively until the 16 gb comes in, and I can't believe how important screen real estate is. I really don't appreciate the 3.5 inch screen on the iPhone, nor the elongated 4 inch screen on the 5; the Nexus 4 really nice. The bigger screen size is much more useful for watching videos, and all around usage since you can see more.
morejaylesswar said:
"Glorified dumb phone" -- Couldn't have put it better.
Right now, I'm at the point where customizations are so limited with my iPhone. I want widgets and I want to be able to move my icons where I want them and not be locked to this stupid grid. I've also ALWAYS complained about downloading apps and being kicked out of the app store to my desktop to watch the damned thing download and install. Now that they've added the ability to stay in the app store, it seems like "too little, too late."
I haven't even bothered with jailbreaking my 4s, because I know it still won't do the things that I've seen Android OS phones do.
I feel like I've reached my peak with my iPhone experience and I'd prefer so much more. I just don't want it to feel like some huge trade off because of the little idiosyncratic things that iOS has done for me. It's been very intuitive. I only used Android 2.3 for 5 months before going back to an iPhone. I didn't do much with it other than complain for 2 and a half months! LOL!
From what I hear, 4.2 on the Nexus is the best Android experience yet. That's what made me purchase it without even having a handson experience with it yet.
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You've got to ask yourself a few questions. Do I need any advanced functionality? Is it extremely beneficial to be able to glance at my phone and get a lot of information at once? Are there any platform-specific apps that I use?
My father is an older gentleman and only uses his phone to call, text, check email, and check his bank accounts. He occasionally takes pictures, but he's a photographer so he prefers to use his DSLR. I certainly recommend that users like this can use an iPhone and be more content than they would with Android. The iPhone dictates your usage, which can be useful if you don't really know what you have to do. The problem with Android is that the experience from one app to another can be very different. Further, you have so much freedom, it can be difficult to know what to do.
Also, here's a little album that has some of the customizations I made to my phone. Note the navigation bar colors, the widgets, the different dpi (text size) among different apps. I can really do what I want with the phone, however limited phone OSes may be at the moment.
I will put it simply. If you are considering a switch because iPhone feels too locked down, its because it is and you have been spoiled by Android. Android does all iOS does and much more and to a higher level of complexity. I was a former iPhone user and I love that now I am able to use MY phone however I want, not how Apple intended. I can use my phone as hotspot, create an FTP, share any file via NFC or Bluetooth, use whatever ringtone, download whatever typr file I want and being able to open it, sideload apks, pretty much anything I imagine. And no iTunes, either. Good old drag and drop, usable as a pen drive for that matter.
If you are not somebody who is satisfied by simplicity, but rather seeks customizability and expandability, then it's a no brainer. Especially at that price point.
I have come from a similar position as you morejaylesswar. (iPhone 3 -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S) I'll give you my quick and dirty opinions after having my Nexus 4 for nearly 3 weeks now. Good and bad.
GOOD:
I love the freedom of android compared to IOS, you can just do so much more. Even more than a jailbroken iphone.
The screen size is great, at first i thought it was maybe a bit big for me but it didn't take long to get used to it, going back to my 4S which i still have seems way to small now in comparison.
Widget, widget, widgets!! i will say no more than that
NFC, i love using NFC tags for switching profiles e.t.c like switching bluetooth on, wifi off and launching the music player for when i get in my car.
EQ for the music player, this was one of my BIG issues with IOS. Why they never added just a simple 3 or 5 band EQ to the iphone i will never know.
BAD:
The camera on the nexus is poor compared to the 4S, outdoor shots in good light are ok but anything else is frustratingly bad, slow shutter speed, noisy images and a flash thats WAY too bright.
Music apps, this is obviously a personal one but if you like using music production apps (Korg e.t.c) you will be disappointed by the lack of apps on the play store, something to do with the lag thats inherent in the android os.
Battery life, my standby time is good but actually using the phone eats the battery like hell, of course this is to be expected with such a large screen but it is just a bit of a shock when first coming over from the 4S.
All in all the goods outweigh the bads for me by a long way, and i can only see me loving android (and my Nexus) more and more as i learn more about android and what i can do with it. I was bored with IOS, i didn't think it had evolved enough in the last few years and had become a bit stale.
morejaylesswar said:
Are there any Nexus 4 users that switched from an iPhone? What features do you miss? Does the Nexus 4 adequately make the transition seamless?
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Things I miss about my iPhone 4/5.
iMessages (medium issue)
In areas where I have wifi and no cell signal (ie: work), it was convenient for me to communicate with people who had iOS
Size (minor issue)
Some people will argue this, but my i5 was perfect for jogging, I could hold it in my hand, switch tunes, even text one handed.. a little trickier on the N4 but not impossible.
LTE (minor issue)
Yes I do miss it, it's not as big of an issue but I did love the fast speeds that were available in my city.
Screen (very minor issue)
Side by side the i5's screen (to me) is a tad bit better than the N4.
All in all though, I am very satisfied with the N4. I thought I'd be reaching for my iPhone 5 again (I have a nano converter so I can easily switch it back out) but I find myself just using the N4 exclusively now. As people have said the customization will keep you busy for a while, and just the sheer amount of things you can do vs iOS is just night and day.
Argenist said:
Things I miss about my iPhone 4/5.
iMessages (medium issue)
In areas where I have wifi and no cell signal (ie: work), it was convenient for me to communicate with people who had iOS
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Just use Google Talk, it's an open platform that's not just locked to Apple users, you can type, voice call, or video call anyone. Be it Android, Apple, PC or whatever...
The reason I would never touch any Apple product is it's proprietary nature that use to lock users in (hardware connectors, quicktime format, iCloud/iMessage etc)
germanj said:
I will put it simply. If you are considering a switch because iPhone feels too locked down, its because it is and you have been spoiled by Android. Android does all iOS does and much more and to a higher level of complexity. I was a former iPhone user and I love that now I am able to use MY phone however I want, not how Apple intended. I can use my phone as hotspot, create an FTP, share any file via NFC or Bluetooth, use whatever ringtone, download whatever typr file I want and being able to open it, sideload apks, pretty much anything I imagine. And no iTunes, either. Good old drag and drop, usable as a pen drive for that matter.
If you are not somebody who is satisfied by simplicity, but rather seeks customizability and expandability, then it's a no brainer. Especially at that price point.
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Being that I am a Mac user, iTunes (unfortunately) is a huge part of my life. I hate the time it takes to sync my iPhone. I mean, seriously, there is years worth of stuff in my iTunes. I'm a music hoarder. '
You're right, dealing with Android everyday, I'm a bit spoiled. In my down times at work, I'd rather browse on the Galaxy S III at my job than my own phone. I haven't gotten into messing around with it for more than what I do on my iPhone and that's just browsing, updating my social networks, and watching videos. It's just because I don't know WHAT to do. I know I can do more, but man, that's all I can do on my iPhone. LOL. I haven't downloaded an app in forever while I'm out because Sprint's network is PAINFULLY SLOW. I wish I would've stuck with AT&T.
Google boasts having over 700,000 apps. I'm looking forward to getting into that. I also haven't owned an Android device since it went to the "Play Store." The 'Market' was one of my big complaints when I used Android. It just wasn't my well known 'App Store.' Google Play has come a HECK OF A LONG WAY. Man, I'm impressed at how clean it looks and how user friendly it is.
Oh yes i forgot one more thing...
The search facility on the Nexus is nowhere near as good as the Spotlight search on IOS. You cannot for example type a name in and have it show all emails, texts, notes, calendar things related to that search. Also there is no option to search within any exchange email accounts you have setup.
To say that google is the king of search engines this is a little disappointing
keepittidy said:
I have come from a similar position as you morejaylesswar. (iPhone 3 -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S) I'll give you my quick and dirty opinions after having my Nexus 4 for nearly 3 weeks now. Good and bad.
GOOD:
I love the freedom of android compared to IOS, you can just do so much more. Even more than a jailbroken iphone.
The screen size is great, at first i thought it was maybe a bit big for me but it didn't take long to get used to it, going back to my 4S which i still have seems way to small now in comparison.
Widget, widget, widgets!! i will say no more than that
NFC, i love using NFC tags for switching profiles e.t.c like switching bluetooth on, wifi off and launching the music player for when i get in my car.
EQ for the music player, this was one of my BIG issues with IOS. Why they never added just a simple 3 or 5 band EQ to the iphone i will never know.
BAD:
The camera on the nexus is poor compared to the 4S, outdoor shots in good light are ok but anything else is frustratingly bad, slow shutter speed, noisy images and a flash thats WAY too bright.
Music apps, this is obviously a personal one but if you like using music production apps (Korg e.t.c) you will be disappointed by the lack of apps on the play store, something to do with the lag thats inherent in the android os.
Battery life, my standby time is good but actually using the phone eats the battery like hell, of course this is to be expected with such a large screen but it is just a bit of a shock when first coming over from the 4S.
All in all the goods outweigh the bads for me by a long way, and i can only see me loving android (and my Nexus) more and more as i learn more about android and what i can do with it. I was bored with IOS, i didn't think it had evolved enough in the last few years and had become a bit stale.
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The music apps is why I have to keep a mobile Apple product. I've already figured that it would be my iPad, since I use that the least. I'm a musician, songwriter, and recording and mix engineer. There are so many apps that make my life easy when it comes to that stuff. I have apps that control my recording consoles, actual mobile DAWs that allow me to sketch ideas out and export them into their full counterparts on my Mac.
I know that I will be having some tradeoff with the Nexus S speaker vs the iPhone speaker. When I'm at home, but not in my studio, I use my iPhone speaker to play the music that I am writing to at the time. I don't use headphones to write, because I need to hear myself as I go over the material.
Damn, another thing I will miss is the ability to control my iTunes if I have something playing there, but am pacing around my workspace while I'm writing. Unless there is an app that allows me to control those kinds of things wirelessly on Android. That'd be pretty dope.
I'm interested to see how the battery performs. Despite EVERYONE saying the 4s had horrible battery life... I've gotten 1.5 to 2 days out of it sometimes. But that's because I don't run many apps because of my network and all I do is read sports news on it right now. I feel so caged, lol.
keepittidy said:
Oh yes i forgot one more thing...
The search facility on the Nexus is nowhere near as good as the Spotlight search on IOS. You cannot for example type a name in and have it show all emails, texts, notes, calendar things related to that search. Also there is no option to search within any exchange email accounts you have setup.
To say that google is the king of search engines this is a little disappointing
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Google had that on the Galaxy Nexus until Apple sued them over it and made them change the search because "they had that idea patented." (BREAKING: They also have breathing through the nose, walking upright, and the opposable thumb patented, too.) The less informed customers that shop at my location were nervous that Apple would make them forfeit their device over those lawsuits. LOL. It was so strange.
Argenist said:
Things I miss about my iPhone 4/5.
iMessages (medium issue)
In areas where I have wifi and no cell signal (ie: work), it was convenient for me to communicate with people who had iOS
Size (minor issue)
Some people will argue this, but my i5 was perfect for jogging, I could hold it in my hand, switch tunes, even text one handed.. a little trickier on the N4 but not impossible.
LTE (minor issue)
Yes I do miss it, it's not as big of an issue but I did love the fast speeds that were available in my city.
Screen (very minor issue)
Side by side the i5's screen (to me) is a tad bit better than the N4.
All in all though, I am very satisfied with the N4. I thought I'd be reaching for my iPhone 5 again (I have a nano converter so I can easily switch it back out) but I find myself just using the N4 exclusively now. As people have said the customization will keep you busy for a while, and just the sheer amount of things you can do vs iOS is just night and day.
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iMessage has saved my life on more than one occasion. Most recently, my brother hadn't paid his half of the phone bill and our phone service was cut off. I had no idea until I was running late for work because of traffic and had to call into my job to let someone know. Long story short, I was able to turn on my hotspot (provided by my job) and iMessage someone to let them know of the situation.
As far as the screen size, most people laugh at me because of how small the iPhone looks in my hands. I'm 6'8" and can palm a basketball with ease. So, holding the Nexus 4 will probably be more natural to my hand than the iPhone is. I'm just used to it.
Zaimojin said:
I can empathize with you with syncing of notes/reminders/things Google doesn't handle because I have an iPad as well. It wasn't too huge of a loss for me because I use a Windows laptop, and my school email is integrated with gmail so the tasks work well. It definitely is something to consider though since you have a MacBook.
If I were in your shoes, it would be difficult to lose all those features because of convenient it makes everything. I'm guessing real world testing will be the only way for you to decide if you can be without it or not.
As far as the music player, I'm particularly OCD about the organization as well. It's not bad, nor is it exceptional; it does what it needs to. Since getting the Nexus, I've uploaded my music into Google Music and have been streaming it all since then--I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan from the 3GS--and it hasn't given me much issues.
The only thing I can say for certain that I sorely miss is music controls via the hardware volume buttons. I used them all the time to avoid taking my phone out of my pocket, or looking at my phone while driving. Fortunately, the feature should be brought back with ROMs in the near future, so there's not really much encouraging me to go back to my 4S.
I actually bought the 16 gb Nexus 4 because the 8 gb wasn't enough space, and I've sold the 8gb while waiting for the 16 gb to come in. I'm using my 4S again tentatively until the 16 gb comes in, and I can't believe how important screen real estate is. I really don't appreciate the 3.5 inch screen on the iPhone, nor the elongated 4 inch screen on the 5; the Nexus 4 really nice. The bigger screen size is much more useful for watching videos, and all around usage since you can see more.
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Yea, I definitely had to do the 16GB, because of how much music I have. I'm certain that my music will overtake this phone... So much so that I'm thinking about just getting an iPod for my car.
Unlimited data is precisely why I chose T-Mobile over AT&T. When I left AT&T last year, I obviously forfeited my unlimited. I don't use much data now (again, blame Sprint) but if I have to do a lot of cloud based things, I'd much rather be on T-Mobile. As well, in my area, when I speed test the T-Mobile phones at my store, I get about 15-20mbps on TMO HSPA+ 42 over AT&T's 3-5mbps on HSPA+ 14.1.
morejaylesswar said:
Being that I am a Mac user, iTunes (unfortunately) is a huge part of my life. I hate the time it takes to sync my iPhone. I mean, seriously, there is years worth of stuff in my iTunes. I'm a music hoarder. '
You're right, dealing with Android everyday, I'm a bit spoiled. In my down times at work, I'd rather browse on the Galaxy S III at my job than my own phone. I haven't gotten into messing around with it for more than what I do on my iPhone and that's just browsing, updating my social networks, and watching videos. It's just because I don't know WHAT to do. I know I can do more, but man, that's all I can do on my iPhone. LOL. I haven't downloaded an app in forever while I'm out because Sprint's network is PAINFULLY SLOW. I wish I would've stuck with AT&T.
Google boasts having over 700,000 apps. I'm looking forward to getting into that. I also haven't owned an Android device since it went to the "Play Store." The 'Market' was one of my big complaints when I used Android. It just wasn't my well known 'App Store.' Google Play has come a HECK OF A LONG WAY. Man, I'm impressed at how clean it looks and how user friendly it is.
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There are hundreds of apps that make your transition from iTunes a breeze. But for perspective, also note there are no apps of this nature in iOS. For example, Kies software from Samsung. A lot of free apps from the market, such as DoubleTwist, easysync, etc. But you don't even need an app for ios->android, once more thanks to the openness (?) of the OS. On iTunes preferences there is a box that let's it organize everything in their own folders (iTunes media folder, Michael Jackson, bad, for example). Its all organized, you would just need to drag and drop into the phone music folder and Google Music takes care of the rest. Not to mention the plethora of music apps.