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sometimes when i soft reset my mogul it goes into a sort of reboot loop, it will reset before loading the today screen
i have an app that lets me boot into a "safe mode" with all today plugins, autorun items and nonessential services disabled, however this too reboots (it resets before even loading the today screen, it resets at the wm6 splash screen)
any ideas? i suspect its some app i have installed, just seems weird that it would happen before anything else loads
When this happens, simply remove the SD card and the loop will stop.
Also, it seems that this has stopped if you have the most current ROM.
heh, i never even thought about pulling the SD card *kicks self*
ive been hesitent to get the latest rom because i dont want to reinstall all my apps and tweaks again, especially when i know ill have to do it for rev.A anyway, lol
thanks for the help, nice to see another chicagoan here (im in the south subs)
Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
Those programs aren't really the cause...there have been reports of users who don't have them installed that had the reboot loop anyways. I have actually had the reboot loop after a hard reset with no installed programs and reg tweaks...
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Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
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no and no
havent had the problem again yet, so i havent been able to try the SD thing, but it makes sense since its happenening before autorun apps and services load
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Those programs aren't really the cause...
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I didn't say they were the cause, I was just trying to run past some programs that are known to cause these symptoms.
To flatout say that they are not the cause is just wrong. There is a combination of HTC home and the Audio manager that'll force the unit into a reboot loop you can't get out of.
So no one has found a cause for this? How would this even be feasible if you have startup programs installed on the SD card? I also wanted to put all mail downloads and attachments on the SD, but if I have to pull it out, WM6 creates a Storage Card folder and my actual SD becomes Storage Card 2. It's a pain to have to delete and rename and such especially considering how often the device has to be reset...
Althought the cause is not exactly known, it has been speculated to be a ROM issue. Since flashing to the latest ROM, I have not one reboot loop, and this has been for a few months now.
Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?
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This was present in the 2.08 ROM and was fixed with the 2.09 ROM.
I installed the latest DCD rom no programs installed and it just keeps on looping sometimes it stops for a hr or two and than starts looping again
I tried re-installing the original sprint rom but the same thing keeps on hapening
Are you running Spb Pocket Plus? There are known issues by the developers regarding memory, battery, power meters in the Pocket Plus Today Plugin. For more info, go to Spb Club:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/index.php
I tried everything, I put back the original Sprint rom didn't help. I went back to sprint they tried, coudlln't fix it, I got a new Phone out of the box.
They still have radio 1.32 and Rom 2.09 the blutooth works excellent on this.
I've had to return 2 phones in the last 2 months. My first phone would just freeze up for no reason. I could use the phone for a couple of hours then it freezed. Well the couple of hours soon became a few minutes than only for about a minute. If I took the battery out for awhile then I could turn it on again for a few minutes. It was as if the battery or cpu was getting hot and then freezing up.
The next phone worked good for 2 days and then all of a sudden it just died at the sprint logo. It boots up and shows the rom version with the sprint logo than the rom text disappears and its stuck at the sprint logo. It won't boot any further. It will stay on the sprint logo and the backlight will even go off after a few minutes. Strange... I am about to take this phone back tomorrow.
So far I've had nothing but bad experience with the durability of these phones. Once I get it set up properly it dies... :-(
i got a mogul aswell, nvr happened to me sorry can't help..
I just installed DCD2.3.2-Telus (several times) along with Titan_Radio_3.27.0. At first it worked wonderfully. The second I install anything to do with the GPS though, the system goes into a reboot loop. Actually it even started doing it last night without installing any navigation software.
- Google Maps
- TomTom 6
- Live Search
^^ Those are the 3 I've tried so far and all three have lead into reboot loops. I just flash the ROM again and everything is okay (for a while).
I've also tried running dcd_titan_2.1.0_telus and got the same problem once I installed one of the above Apps.
Does WM6 create dump files like in Windows so I can figure out what the hell is causing this? I want my GPS to work!!!!
After the reboot loops start, I tried removing the SD card as mentionned but it did nothing. Keep in mind I installed the programs to my internal memory.
Update: After flashing the ROM again to 2.3.2, the second I insert my SD card that also triggers the reboot loop.
Update #2: With the stock Rom, it seems to be working fine again. I think it's a problem with the GPS chip itself?
After spending the last few days trying to figure this out, I said the heck with it and contacted HTC to see what they have to say. Will post their reply once I get it. Hopefully there is a fix, because I hate this!! Now, I can't set my Spb Backup to run on auto, otherwise I wake up to the splash screen again....and again.....and again! I get so angry as I wait anxiuosly to see the result, today screen or verizon, and then *buzz*, I'm going crazy!
I had the same problem as you with my XV-6800 using the stock ROM and it always would go into reboot mode unless I ejected the sd card first. I could only put the card back in after it booted up. I also removed two programs from the device's main memory (Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and a task switcher).
I'm currently running SPB mobile shell and SPB Pocket Plus (for the task manager) and it's working fine now.
The only thing I can suggest is to remove one program at a time and reboot to see if maybe there is software conflict
WARNING This is a long post describing various events of my G1 and things I was going through, so Im basically doing a dump of my thoughts and possible reasonings to put everything I can report, case it is a ROM, Hardware, or Software flaw somewhere or just user error. But since this forum is about feedback for devs or rom providers =)
Ok I dont know where to begin with this post. Last night my G1 needed a wipe. Why? Cause all it did was reboot over and over not getting past 1st home screen, then finally android screen. What happened before this? All I have of the things going on during that time frame was this:
(Now before the below stuff, earlier that day, Quest Live glitched on me, and when I was at the home screen, I tried to scroll left and right and it got stuck half way, which WORRIED me since I thought the touch screen was messed up. To my luck after a reboot and iso alcohol rub down on screen, it was fixed. Tho only after I unplugged it from the car charger (Which seems to really make the G1 % battery jump in record speed.. glicth?) Or Power Manager issues? Tho this wasnt the updated one, so the new one may have fixed the issues the dev said power manager was causing.
I plugged in the usb to a ubuntu running PC. To charge it, thus triggering Power Manager. Same time, I was trying to install SnapPhoto, which it downloaded, but didnt install, I was also noticing abit of lag, So I ran task manager to turn off some apps running in background, Camera, Gallery, Gaming Buzz Widget, Weather app Widget, Calender. (Then as I rem.. I tried to update AdFree when the new version came out.. it didnt install but same time when I tried to load it, it just came up black.. sign of a bigger issue maybe?)
After that of course couple of them came back. Then I tried to change the volume using the side button, It didnt respond, The on screen worked fine tho. So I decided ok, time to reboot fresh on the phone. Rebooted, Then it loaded to home screen before radio signal, then rebooted. After getting tired of not booting, (I had unplugged it from the USB btw which at 1st kept the charging light on before I rebooted it. ) I pulled the battery out. Which MAYBE I pulled it out at the wrong time during the android screen. Cause after that and I put it back in, all it did was goto the G1, then Android cycling screen, but no longer went to the home screen to try to load. Then was too late for this trick, but the Safe mode attempt. Which MAY have worked when it made it to the home screen, but once it was on Android only, safe mode didnt load at all. Just endless stuck on Android. So I had to wipe 1st then I reapplied the JF 1.51 update.zip to fix it and get the G1 to turn on again and boot.
Advice tip: If you can still boot to the home screen "somewhat" next time it cycles, try holding "Menu" in to have the G1 bypass any apps and load into safe mode, which may allow you to uninstall or fix whatever the issue is.
To my surprise. The Apps when the G1 started installing again went to the SD card. (I do not use apps2sd, Only Lucids orig) Now thats when I noticed more hell.. I went to the market to look at "My Downloads" and WHAM, the 10 apps it auto downloaded (Which I guess was a sync) are the only ones in the My Download section.. nothing from my past downloads.. Which is 110 more apps.
Advice tip: Use Atrackdog to "Export" your database to a text file and keep that on your PC. This way if ANYTHING happens, you least know which apps to look for.
Advice Tip: Upon reflection I probably should have made a nandroid backup after 1.51 was smooth. So if you havent, Id suggest looking at it) I know I will once Im set back up.
So now I am left with a interesting ponder. I msged Lucid to see if his scripts would allow me to use my 2GB which had my 1.51 data on it and somehow relink it to the G1 and have everything restored, then recopy to the 4GB which is my current one. But chances are I need to 1 by 1 install again. (Anyone know how you get apps back that arent on the market anymore? Extract from the SD card maybe?)
Anyways now I am wondering, If you install too much to the G1, will it in the end cause a problem? Im not a dev so I dont know how that all works with the ROM builds. But that wouldnt be good news if you have 129 apps, things could start messing up. (Tho not sure if that was a cause for any of the above)
Another thing I learned, if you have a GOOD screen protector on the G1 (Not the one it came with) and it smears up, or gets smudgy it seems it may interfere with the response of the touch screen. Ive notice if the screen thinks its being pressed in, a app could hang, lock up or choke the G1 to where it fixes itself by doing a reboot. Now that sounds odd that the G1 is sensitive to smudges or oil from your hands (If you had a humid hot day). Anyways fixed that with iso rubbing alcohol and a soft wipe cloth. Then rebooted.
Now my next task is to 1: Find out if my Cache since the wipe is running on the SD still, or if its on Internal. The app "Move Cache" I hear could do that, but I heard it messes up market, maps etc.. so not what I wanna do atm. Then I just gotta see if I can restore apps from SD using a app or terminal, which I am studying now, but just wanna end this post for now.
Will post more as I get around to it. Maybe I can restore the market cache manually.
do you still experiencing the touch screen error problem after all the steps you have taken? because i have the same problem. sometimes when i use touch screen to switch screens, the screen get stuck in the middle and shaking. i also cannot select anything correctly by touching. and i've read from various forums that this has something to do with the charger / charging process. i think that my problem occured because i charged using usb cable to my computer. because i never done that before (i usually charge my phone using a wall charger) and when i did, the problem happened.
How I fixed it? I turned off the G1, used rubbing alcohol with a tissue to gently wipe the screen off and clean it. Then turned back on and it was fine.
Hi
I'm having so many issues with my new HD2 i think i must have the unit they were using for footie practise in the stock room.
Anyway i got my unit from Handtec last week. It has been completely unstable but here's a list of what's happen just this morning...
The Sense music player, previously working fine stops working after i placed some additional mp3s on the sd card - pressing the music icon on HTC Sense results in HTC Sense restarting - every time. Only resolved by a hard reset.
Multiple occurrences of "A problem has occurred with device.exe" , i think generally when i try to turn on the phone connection but i'm not sure of this is always the cause or not.
The phone radio connection goes off and wont turn back on despite going into comm manager and pressing the on/off soft button multiple times.
I press the power button button to bring the phone out of stand-by and it goes back to stand-by a second later, over and over again. I haven't even got time to slide the unlock icon across the screen. Then finally after a number of attempts it will either stay on, or put itself through a soft reset without me having initiated it.
How long does it take for HTC Sense to load on others phones? It can take mine minutes to move from the Loading HTC Sense screen to showing the actual Sense interface.
After a hard reset and allowing the device to fully boot up, i promptly got "A problem has occurred with device.exe" as soon as i tried to turn the phone radio on. this is before doing ANYTHING else after a hard reset.
I then got "A problem has occurred with filesys.exe" when trying to get weather for the first time. then the device shut down. Then it went back to the behaviour of going to stand by 1 second after turning iton. This is all within the first 2 minutes of a hard reset.
I really haven't one anything to this phone. It still has the same ROM that it has when i received it - 1.43.70124 from memory. I would tell you exactly except at the moment its refusing to open the 'Software Information' screen in Settings-About Phone. It just freezes up instead (that's a new bug in the last 5 minutes, woot!)
Does anyone have any ideas? i'm hesitant to put the 1.48 rom on in case i need to return the unit and they refuse due to me changing the rom.
Thanks.
My advise is to flash it with the same ROM version. Maybe the ROM is corrupted. If that still doesn't work, get a replacement.
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Hi
I'm having so many issues with my new HD2 i think i must have the unit they were using for footie practise in the stock room.
Anyway i got my unit from Handtec last week. It has been completely unstable but here's a list of what's happen just this morning...
The Sense music player, previously working fine stops working after i placed some additional mp3s on the sd card - pressing the music icon on HTC Sense results in HTC Sense restarting - every time. Only resolved by a hard reset.
Multiple occurrences of "A problem has occurred with device.exe" , i think generally when i try to turn on the phone connection but i'm not sure of this is always the cause or not.
The phone radio connection goes off and wont turn back on despite going into comm manager and pressing the on/off soft button multiple times.
I press the power button button to bring the phone out of stand-by and it goes back to stand-by a second later, over and over again. I haven't even got time to slide the unlock icon across the screen. Then finally after a number of attempts it will either stay on, or put itself through a soft reset without me having initiated it.
How long does it take for HTC Sense to load on others phones? It can take mine minutes to move from the Loading HTC Sense screen to showing the actual Sense interface.
After a hard reset and allowing the device to fully boot up, i promptly got "A problem has occurred with device.exe" as soon as i tried to turn the phone radio on. this is before doing ANYTHING else after a hard reset.
I then got "A problem has occurred with filesys.exe" when trying to get weather for the first time. then the device shut down. Then it went back to the behaviour of going to stand by 1 second after turning iton. This is all within the first 2 minutes of a hard reset.
I really haven't one anything to this phone. It still has the same ROM that it has when i received it - 1.43.70124 from memory. I would tell you exactly except at the moment its refusing to open the 'Software Information' screen in Settings-About Phone. It just freezes up instead (that's a new bug in the last 5 minutes, woot!)
Does anyone have any ideas? i'm hesitant to put the 1.48 rom on in case i need to return the unit and they refuse due to me changing the rom.
Thanks.
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The Sense Music Player on my HD2 crashes everytime it's tab is selected when there are music files on my memory card. Since I need music on my phone, I disabled the Music Tab and got Conduits Pocket Player instead. Works great, and is fast and smooth.
Never had a problem/error message on my HD2.
I'm also using the 1.43 ROM, got mine from eXpansys.
Try doing another hard reset and see how it goes... It shouldn't be spitting out fault messages after a hard reset...
The sense music player seems to have a problem if you load too much music into a memory card at any one time.When I first got my 16 gig microsd card, I decided to fill it up with music, and when the sense music player tried to scan what was on it, the whole sense interface just froze and I had to soft reset ny phone.
I found a temporary solution to the problem by having the computer connected via ActiveSync and just transferring the files over whilst the sense music tab was open. This way, the program can sorta scan each song as it is being added rather than bomnbarding it with a whole heap of songs at once and causing it to crash.
By doing it this way, I've managed to put around 7 gigs worth of music on my phone. I hope htc fix this soon as well as it is obviously another bug with the phone.
Hey, don't be disheartened; my first set was like that as well. device.exe error on the first boot up, and pretty much your experience. Slow Sense UI loading, unstable device, etc. Get a new set if you can.
You only have one option- send it back
It's patently a hardware or initial ROM fault. Don't bother with trying to flash a new ROM, just get in touch with Handtec for an RMA
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My advise is to flash it with the same ROM version. Maybe the ROM is corrupted. If that still doesn't work, get a replacement.
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Thanks for everyones advice, its appreciated.
Attempting to flash the same ROM onto the device is a good idea, too obvious to occur to me! Out of interest, if I was to flash the 1.48 WWE ROM and it didnt fix anything, would it allow me to downgrade to the 1.43 WWE ROM again? or would the installer scream at attemptoing a downgrade?
It may well be a hardware error though, there's so many things going wrong. But then you would think a hardware error would stop it working at all. Maybe its some dodgy memory... well im going to try flashing 1.43 for now and will wait for advise on the upgrade followed by possible downgrade idea (in case i need to return it - trying to avoid that as im in Oz and trying for a replacement to the other side of the World at Xmas just sounds like a bad idea).
Thanks
stick on 1.43 and just wait until an official update has been released,
Why would you want to put yourself into such situation. Don't mess with the device. If you flash it with 1.48 and fail to downgrade whatever the reason is, you will void the warranty. Flashing 1.43 should tell you if it's a software or hardware error. If it's not a hardware and 1.43 solved the issues, you're free to do whatever you want with 1.48
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The sense music player seems to have a problem if you load too much music into a memory card at any one time.When I first got my 16 gig microsd card, I decided to fill it up with music, and when the sense music player tried to scan what was on it, the whole sense interface just froze and I had to soft reset ny phone.
I found a temporary solution to the problem by having the computer connected via ActiveSync and just transferring the files over whilst the sense music tab was open. This way, the program can sorta scan each song as it is being added rather than bomnbarding it with a whole heap of songs at once and causing it to crash.
By doing it this way, I've managed to put around 7 gigs worth of music on my phone. I hope htc fix this soon as well as it is obviously another bug with the phone.
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I also had this problem, found it was nothing to do with the above, there was just one song that it didnt like the file name off. It had % and a few other sybols in it, changed the name it was fine.
Just wanted to update my own thread.
I tried reinstalling the 1.43 ROM completly as suggested and it seemd to solve most of my issues for a few hours then they all started showing up again along with more new ones... but...
I then went and bought a replacement SIM card from my carrier as my old sim was 6 years old. Put it in the phone and hey presto, my HD2 has magically come good! About 48 hours now, and considering i couldn't go more than a few hours previously without having to pull the battery, soft or even hard reset, im calling it fixed!.
Now i have no idea why an old sim would affect parts off the system that are not to do with making phone calls but all i can say is a new sim has solved all off the freezes, glitches, basically evrything. The device is just stable now. So my advise to anyone who thinks they have a bad 'un, at least try replacing your sim before returning it.
Oh and the old camera patch seems to be good as well.
I do love a happy ending.
LOL, windows mobile is never stable, I buy it just for fun.
you might want to edit the title of the thread now that your problem's solved so everyone can learn from your XP
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I also had this problem, found it was nothing to do with the above, there was just one song that it didnt like the file name off. It had % and a few other sybols in it, changed the name it was fine.
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Yep, if there is a foreign letter or some odd character in the title/artist/album of a song, it can cause manila to crash
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Just wanted to update my own thread.
I tried reinstalling the 1.43 ROM completly as suggested and it seemd to solve most of my issues for a few hours then they all started showing up again along with more new ones... but...
I then went and bought a replacement SIM card from my carrier as my old sim was 6 years old. Put it in the phone and hey presto, my HD2 has magically come good! About 48 hours now, and considering i couldn't go more than a few hours previously without having to pull the battery, soft or even hard reset, im calling it fixed!.
Now i have no idea why an old sim would affect parts off the system that are not to do with making phone calls but all i can say is a new sim has solved all off the freezes, glitches, basically evrything. The device is just stable now. So my advise to anyone who thinks they have a bad 'un, at least try replacing your sim before returning it.
Oh and the old camera patch seems to be good as well.
I do love a happy ending.
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Thanks for the update. Good to hear you're happy with HD2 now .
I posted this in the Atrix Development forum under Gingerblur since that's what's currently on it, but it may just be a general Android issue so I'm reposting it here as well just in case:
OK I had something weird happen to my gf's phone yesterday. I don't know if this is Gingerblur related, but that's what's on it so I'm putting it here.
AT&T Atrix w/ Gingerblur 4.0 (Just haven't got around to going to 4.5)
So I put Gingerblur on it 2-3 months ago and it's been working great for her. So yesterday I was with her and we were going to install this market app (I can't remember what it was), but she hit Install on the market app, it changed to the OK button, but when she clicked OK, the button just flashed and just sat there and did nothing. i found that odd. So I had her see if she could sideload an app (not the same one) -so I downloaded it to the phone and clicked it to install it. I accepted it and it just said "Installing...." forever. So I told her OK the phone got out of whack or something let's just reboot it.
So we reboot it, and she complains that a lot of her apps show the default android icon for them (instead of their respective icon pics) and she can't run them. From what we noticed, these were all the apps that were moved with app2sd. Also, nothing will install from the market - you can get there, but you get the same symptoms as above. You can click "Install" on the app but when you click "OK" it doesn't do anything.
Under Settings/Manage Applications it shows all her apps installed so the phone still thinks all the apps are there. So I tell her to pick an app that she doesn't really care about and Uninstall it. She said that works, but trying to install it through the Market fails.
So she's freaking out. I tell her to let me at least back up what I can off the phone. So I try plugging the phone into my computer with the USB. I can't get the phone to be seen at all by the computer. I put the USB into Mass Storage mode/Nothing/etc, and even turn off/on USB Debugging - I just can't get this thing to be seen. So now I'm starting to worry.
We have an external SD card in the phone so I was able to start copying what I could under Setting/Files over to the SDcard.
Now all I'm thinking about is getting this phone working again so I'm starting to read how to recover the phone back to stock using this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
So I'm able to get it into the recovery state. So as I'm downloading the SBF, I notice it says to remove the SIM card too. So I shut it down, and remove the SIM. I boot up the phone regularly and I notice everything is working now as it should (minus the phone since the SIM is out), but all apps are there and working correctly and the market works as it should.
So immediately I nab Titanium Backup from the market and start backing things up. I tell her to go through the list and start backing up what she thought was important. So I'm thinking this thing fixed itself, but when I put the SIM card back in, we're back to the broken state again.
So.. does anyone know what's going on here? It seems like the phone doesn't like her SIM card anymore, but she can still make calls with it aside from the rest of the phone issues with it in.
If we need to take this back to stock, I will - especially now that I was able to back things up with TB.
Hello, I have a few problems im wandering if people know how to fix.
1. Before i put WP7 on, i had the ENERGY rom, and when ever i start up my phone, i always get the energy logo show for a few seconds before MAGLDR screen shows. Any way to change this to the standard I heart windows phone HTC screen?
2. My next problem is i believe with my SD card. I have a 16GB sandisk card which seems to work, and ive had very good random IOPS speeds, however after installing an application, i get a huge slow down, anything on the menu is slow to load, including settings, zune etc.
Allot of the time, when i go to start a downloaded application, it closes and goes back to the menu screen, i try again, and again, and then eventually it works... Sometimes i give up and it never works.
Now, what i want to know is if anyone else is having anything similar to this? Because i havent heard much about this issue on XDA.
I know im not going to be able to get a fix to this problem besides the usual 'incompatible SD card', but i believe my card is as compatible as im ever going to get (ive tried 3 others all of which havent worked). so i just wanted to be assured that this is a current issue and not just my card.
3. When using the Automatic speach recognition, it doesnt recognise 'find' or 'search' commands, it only recognises open or call commands.
I am using 7.07392 Yuki's one.
4.Sometimes will say its searching Wifi forever, and never find any networks, even though im standing right next to one! Usually requires a restart, which brings me onto number 5.
5. When switching off the phone, depeending on how slow its been prior, will take any where between 30 seconds, and 2 minuites! After a while i endd up just taking the battery out!
6. After switching off the device or taking the battery out, the automatic clock changes to a completely random time! And there is no way to my knowledge to force it to search for a time over the phone network
I am aware there are a fair few questions, and i would be very greatfull if someone could answer them!
Thank You!
Next time try searching first most likely the SD card but you can try a different build and see if you get the same issues