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Benchmarks - Droid X vs Evo 4G vs Nexus One (Froyo)

Awesome Droid X results!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilx_cpGZczM

Pretty awesome considering it isn't running froyo...

Gota love that GPU.

It is nuts how bad the EVO tested. It would be interesting if they included the Incredible.

So.. I was pretty sure about wanting this... but some are saying to wait a month or two...... what is your guy's consensus on the subject?

cbaty08 said:
So.. I was pretty sure about wanting this... but some are saying to wait a month or two...... what is your guy's consensus on the subject?
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Always wait a couple months and they'll be something better.

true... I just suppose if it something like front facing camera or some other feature I would never use is worth the wait for some.. I might as well just bite the bullet I think...

Ok, so as far as processors and GPUs go, do I have this right?
Samsung Galaxy S/iPhone4 > Droid X/2 > Evo/Incredible/HD2

Droid X is at least on par with iPhone 4 from what I've seen. Hard to compare the two since they run on a different OS.

AdamLJ said:
Droid X is at least on par with iPhone 4 from what I've seen. Hard to compare the two since they run on a different OS.
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I think we need to look at features that are actaul PHONE features.. not just which has more apps or a higher resolution.... which is actually better faster at making phone calls and has more capabilities that involve phone activities...
Sure they are much more than phones.. but we live in an advanced day now and we should not have to worry about how we hold a phone to get reception n things of such...
I myself think the PHONE parts ot the iphone suck, however I do think it is a cool device in some instances, so I bought an ipod touch and jailbroke it just for fun...
Hmmm.. the X is so tempting!!!

After I saw this video I became confused. So, the Nexus One is outdated for now? Is it worth buying the Nexus One now?

paveltk said:
After I saw this video I became confused. So, the Nexus One is outdated for now? Is it worth buying the Nexus One now?
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Not really, the Evo will perform about the same as it once it gets Froyo.

Posted on Engadget by a commenter
JXCGunrunna :
"This is about as good as we have right now. You can actually see how the Snapdragon, Hummingbird and OMAP all compare.
Obviously the Nexus one, Desire and Incredible are snapdragon, the Galaxy(jEPIC, Captivate, Vibrant and Verizons version) is the Hummingbird and the Droid Shadow(Droid X) is the OMAP and they are all clocked at 1 GHz.
http://picasaweb.google.com/MFUntch2/MotoDroid#5480633964195182082 "

fascinate > thunderbolt?

im just wondering if any of you fascinate users have had a chance to use the htc thunderbolt yet? im running DarkREVENGE v3.0 eb01 on my fascinate and i really like it... is it worth the switch?
i was sorta hoping for a dual core phone but it looks like the bionic is the next one up on LTE... and thats moto with their locked bootloader, so it makes it really unappealing. i read that there should be a samsung galaxy lte phone coming down the road.. but after the level of support.. im not sure if id buy another samsung (even though the dev community is amazing!)..
constructive replies welcome.
thanks,
dave

Its not worth the upgrade, but it certainly is a better phone.

I concur. I'm going to take an early upgrade option in September. 4G and dual core should have more established options by then. I wouldn't jump now.
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I don't know about it being a better phone because lots of factors play into a phone being a better phone than another. Yes, it is a more powerful phone but not really worth the upgrade right now since other more powerful phones are coming out later. Personally, I don't think I would ever want to own a phone that gets worse battery life than an EVO. I wouldn't even say the Thunderbolt is much better than the EVO at all. It's basically an EVO with 256 more RAM and terrible battery life (give or take some specs). In some instances I'd prefer it because of the support that HTC devices receive but my Fascinate is perfectly fine for me now.

Zacisblack said:
I don't know about it being a better phone because lots of factors play into a phone being a better phone than another. Yes, it is a more powerful phone but not really worth the upgrade right now since other more powerful phones are coming out later. Personally, I don't think I would ever want to own a phone that gets worse battery life than an EVO. I wouldn't even say the Thunderbolt is much better than the EVO at all. It's basically an EVO with 256 more RAM and terrible battery life (give or take some specs). In some instances I'd prefer it because of the support that HTC devices receive but my Fascinate is perfectly fine for me now.
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with a next generation processor, gpu, more ram, I think the screen and the camera are slightly better as well, the body is much nicer looking too. Its much better than the evo, that's not up to debate. Its just not worth the upgrade at this moment in time.

FDro said:
with a next generation processor, gpu, more ram, I think the screen and the camera are slightly better as well, the body is much nicer looking too. Its much better than the evo, that's not up to debate. Its just not worth the upgrade at this moment in time.
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Next generation does not always mean better. AFAIK, the next gen Snapdragon processors are on par with the current Hummingbird. The screen is also probably better on the Fascinate, same with battery life. About the only thing the Thunderbolt would have to offer is 4G and probably better source code and software to work from.

Well, I upgraded to a TBolt from a Fascinate and I have to say, it beats the Fascinate in almost every way. Sense is 20 times better than touchwiz. The TBolt does 1700 quadrant out of the box. The battery usage is better than that on the fascinate. It's just smoother all the way around. plus you get 4g plan now, it's unlimited for $30 and you get grandfathered in. And a word on dual core. The TBolt has been shown in tests to be as fast or faster than the droid bionic so that's that. Plus HTC supports their product. I am very very happy I upgraded.

My buddy just got one, and I'm jumpin ship once I have my upgrade. Battery isn't an issue for me. Plus, I am tired of Samsung and want to get rid of it asap. Think how sweet that thing will be once Cyanogen Mod is running on it.
The phone is nice. Plain and simple. Dual Core seems cool, but i'll wait another year before i jump ship. I think HTC makes a nice phone. They always have and will.
Hey Samsung... I hate your cell products and will never buy one again. EVER!
Hey Devs... Thank you for your hard work and all the love you have shown us.

I'm considering the Tbolt. I'm about 10-15 miles away from 4G right now, so it's really tempting. I'm hoping vzw will flip the switch around here soon.
I wouldn't even be thinking about the Thunderbolt if the Bionic was made by HTC or LG. As it stands, I will not support Motorola as long as they continue to lockdown their bootloaders, and unfortunately, the LG Revolution isn't dual core.
I'm tempted to pick up the Thunderbolt used on craigslist and then truly upgrade to the first dual core, 4g phone that isn't made by Motorola (would be nice if it's a Google Experience phone too).
I got my Fascinate one week after launch, 99% new for $350 (including a case and screen protectors!), so maybe I can get that lucky with the Thunderbolt.

thanks
thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies... i went ahead and ordered one.. guess i'll see. ill use my 15 days to decide... though i normally figure it out within about 2... ill post my results.

I recommended the Thunderbolt to my sister as her first Android phone, hope the battery life isn't too bad for what she uses her phone for.
I might see if I can get one since my Fascinate's earspeaker has been very staticy recently, or I'll wait until a non-Motorola dual-core phone comes to Verizon, then see if I can make the switch.

Soon as I get paid, this Fascinate is going in the garbage and I'm getting a Tbolt too. I don't care, I'll pay the entire $600 for it. I've always liked the Evo and, being on Verizon, couldn't get one.
I still, to this day, miss my HTC Droid Eris.
I'm sick of Samsung. HTC is the way to go.

Ill get any 4G verizon phone when 4G is more widespread. I travel a lot so if im getting a 4G phone, I want 4G speeds anywhere I go.
Glad that 4G will cover 2/3 of us population by the time I get my next upgrade. (October 2012)

ataranine said:
Soon as I get paid, this Fascinate is going in the garbage and I'm getting a Tbolt too. I don't care, I'll pay the entire $600 for it. I've always liked the Evo and, being on Verizon, couldn't get one.
I still, to this day, miss my HTC Droid Eris.
I'm sick of Samsung. HTC is the way to go.
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I kinda feel the same way.

Those that got the Thunderbolt, how is the SVDO? That is one of the main reasons I may get one, other then the sheer lack of software support from Samsung. I am done with Samsung.

I bought a tb two days ago, and from the time I've had with it all I can say to a fellow fascinate user is definitely buy the tb. The best way I can describe this phone is....it just works...everything I ever wanted my fassy to do, this phone does, and it does it fast, and without being rooted and Rom'd....admittedly, the screen isn't as vibrant, but overall this is a great phone. I've had two motorolas one Sammy and now I'm wondering why I haven't been buying HTC the whole time...everyone waiting for dual core should probably wait another year before its really worth it...plus I can't wait to have this thing overclocked to 1.6 or 1.8. Bottom line....make the switch....sorry for the rant.
Ps. Thank you fascinate devs for all the amazing work you have done
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HTC makes great phones. Samsung could learn a thing or two from them. They also support the software which is another plus.
A few things that would stop me from buying are things like the CPU and the screen. Those two would be a step down or maybe a lateral move. Plus the charger port being on the bottom when using the kickstand.. they should have thought that one thru a bit more. That could save us $$ on a dock but no.
I only like to buy new phones when there's a significant processor or some other hardware upgrade. I'll most likely go HTC next time especially if their screens can be on par with SAMOLED, but I think I'm gonna wait.
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madcow706 said:
Those that got the Thunderbolt, how is the SVDO? That is one of the main reasons I may get one, other then the sheer lack of software support from Samsung. I am done with Samsung.
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I drove using google maps and talking on my BT headset without any issues, it even transitioned from LTE to 3g without dropping my call.
I also have the fascinate, I dont regret getting the TB at all. Faster, better build, love sense (why does everyone hate it?) no more plastic toy feel, and better battery life.
Also my quadrant score is at 1890, much better the fascinated with lag fix and this is on a stock rom, and not that much lower then my xoom with dual core.
What's the hype about dualcore anyway, not like there are apps that require that much processing power anyway.
I've just started the first level of angry birds seasons to compare the colors between the devices, they look exactly the same with the exception of the Thunderbolt screen being sharper. You do not see the pixels like you do on the fascinate.

I think Thunderbolt is a great phone (I love Sense UI) however, I just don't see myself buying a man-purse just to carry that huge sucker around. I think its big and heavy enough to pull your pants down. My friend has an Evo and with a case on it, its as thick as a Bible.

andersonrt said:
plus you get 4g plan now, it's unlimited for $30 and you get grandfathered in.
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I wouldn't count on being grandfathered in to anything. It would be naive to think they won't charge anyone more for 4g just because they signed up early. Once the tiered plans hit market they will force an upgrade on data by placing everyone that is"grandfathered" in the lowest tier. Just my thoughts of course, but I like to think realistically.
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making me mad

before my top device comes out, better ones are coming out or at least rumored too...i understand technology but this is too fast for me, jeez at least let me buy one first before coming out with the next better thing...
http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/05/...orlds-first-1-5-ghz-dual-core-phone-tablet-i/
ps im talking processor speed btw

No thanks. I'll pass on a pantech product.

Is computer hardware or phone tech moving faster

Im not sure what's worse, pantech or kyocera. I think pantech phones would be alright if the UI was better.

Faster doesn't always = better.
Pantech & TFT kinda detracted from the wow factor too.
I oddly like the name "Vega Racer". Why? I'm scared to ask myself.

they look like crappy iphones...IMO..

You need to stop looking at it that way and be happy by how fast the market is going. Would you prefer it if we're still sitting on 500MHz processors like in 2009?

No no not at all, I hear your side too, it just that I would like to get my Evo 3d befirevits outdated by q better processor
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You need to stop looking at it that way and be happy by how fast the market is going. Would you prefer it if we're still sitting on 500MHz processors like in 2009?
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The evo 3d uses the same chipset.

I said this a couple of weeks ago. By the time the 3D comes out there will be 3 or 4 more phones with better specs set to drop a couple weeks/months later. Look at the Samsung phone that just leaked on Tmobile.. the Hercules.

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I said this a couple of weeks ago. By the time the 3D comes out there will be 3 or 4 more phones with better specs set to drop a couple weeks/months later. Look at the Samsung phone that just leaked on Tmobile.. the Hercules.
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The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.

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No thanks. I'll pass on a pantech product.
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QFT*************.

vbetts said:
The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.
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Im guessing you missed the point.

brownhornet said:
Im guessing you missed the point.
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Your point was by the time the 3d is out, there will be faster devices out. You then referenced the Hercules, which will most likely have near same performance of the 3d, but probably borked support from Samsung.

Interesting...but pantech? No thanks.
This epic reply brought to you by none other than my roxx'd out Evo.

Correct me if I'm wrong, might be same family but isn't the 3d at 1.2 dual core?
And I totally get your point, I feel outdated just three months later. Same reason I'm holding off on a tablet...ipad is a perfect example, couple months after spending 600 or so my friend feels like an idiot just a few months later he's considering another 600 just cuz of the stupid camera...
vbetts said:
The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.
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Get over it. Buy a phone you like, enjoy it, and get past the need for having the latest and greatest. Phone envy is a *****. Either that, or man up every 6 months and fork out the dough for the newest on the market. Technology will always be 2 steps ahead of you, that's just the way it is.

indagroove said:
Get over it. Buy a phone you like, enjoy it, and get past the need for having the latest and greatest. Phone envy is a *****. Either that, or man up every 6 months and fork out the dough for the newest on the market. Technology will always be 2 steps ahead of you, that's just the way it is.
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Truth.
Not sure this is exactly a new thing, across the board as a whole. Always something better around the corner. And what's there to be bothered about something being better than something you don't even own yet ... ? Whether or not it is 'entirely' better or 'marginally' better.
And talk about not wanting to buy a Samsung device ... but a Pantech?
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lakhanim87 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, might be same family but isn't the 3d at 1.2 dual core?
And I totally get your point, I feel outdated just three months later. Same reason I'm holding off on a tablet...ipad is a perfect example, couple months after spending 600 or so my friend feels like an idiot just a few months later he's considering another 600 just cuz of the stupid camera...
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Yup the evo 3d is undervolted to 1.2 ghz for minimum battery drain but will be overclocked soon enough, just look at the g2 overclock threads to see the potential qualcomm chips have.
After a year with my evo, I believe I can easily wait until next year to upgrade since every phone coming out has specs bumps and nothing else . Just because a better spec laptop comes out doesn't mean to run out and get it.
It will be hard but I'm sure ill hold off on the evo 3d and get the next gen evo next july.

What's the point of this thread? The EVO3D has a better screen, higher resolution, and although the clock speed is 1.2 gigahertz, it will easily be able to overclock significantly higher.
The G2, as someone else mentioned, has been overclocked up to 2 gigahertz. A G2, which has an older chipset and has a stock speed of merely 800 MHz.

Sprint's Motorola Photon 4G available July 31 for $199 on contract

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
I'm waiting on the SG2 but for all you Photon fans

Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.

CDKJudoka said:
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable.
They unlock that and we could possibly talk.

I'm not considering it but I do like it's angular design & the kickstand.

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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable
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Yeah that was something I forgot to mention.

Motorola Android phones on Verizon test well in battery life on anandtech.com. Hopefully this will be the same for their Sprint phones.
I'm probably going to save my upgrade for the next Nexus phone.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.

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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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conqu1stador said:
I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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Motorola pretty much said the same thing as HTC. They will be unlocking bootloaders later this year. But, Moto also said it will be up to the carrier. Im almost certain Sprint will go with unlocked...Not to mention the Atrix has been hacked and they now have unlocked bootloaders.

Yeah, I remember hearing Moto say as much but also remember seeing, 'somewhere', that the plans didn't include the Photon even though it was a 'future' device. If I remember where, I'd hunt it down. It might not have been official but I am certain it was a Moto statement. It was a while ago ... hope it isn't the case as I know some folks are pretty interested in the device.
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mquinn24 said:
Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.

mikeyinid said:
I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.

Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.

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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
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Stock, the Photon should beat the 3D in all benchmarks, the Atrix does. And the screen is actually very nice on these new dual core Motos. Granted, its not samoled, but still nice none the less.

It's possible it won't, but this will likely have a Pentile display too, so it won't be quite as sharp as the EVO 3D's display.

I'm excited for the phone, but i don't want to wait for and upgrade, i guess ill just have to pony up the dough (im guessing around $600?) haha

The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.

jreuschl said:
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
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So what is the 800Mhz listed here?
Bands/Modes
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
taken from http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Fact-Sheet-36f3.aspx

CCallahan said:
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
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I agree. With quad cores possibly coming out late this year and the rumors of the Nexus Prime, really hate to get a Tegra 2 based phone. Then again, any technology buy is going to be dated the moment it's in your hands and thus as long as it does what I want it for which for me appears the Photon just might, it's probably better to get a phone sooner rather than later so that the upgrade timer becomes eligible again sooner

Motorola 2012 Details: More Fingerprint Scanners, NFC Capabilities

Just got some interesting info at a Motorola event. The folks at Motorola haven't given up on the fingerprint scanner! More devices will be released in 2012 with an FP scanner and they'll have some interesting NFC capabilities too.
Also working on some details about the Atrix 3. I know that most of us were disappointed in the Atrix 2. While the OG Atrix was revolutionary (first dual-core phone, HSPA+, first qHD display, fingerprint scanner, lapdock, etc.), the Atrix 2 didn't seem to bring anything new to the table. The Atrix 3 (not sure if it'll be called that, but I think it's a safe bet) will be very very cool, according to some sources. I'm hearing about possible top-of-the-line specs.
Most of you know my blog. I wrote up an article detailing a few of the things the Software Integration Manager let slip at the Moto event. Pretty neat stuff. http://briefmobile.com/whats-coming-from-motorola-in-2012

Thanks for the info Kenn. We miss you around these parts.

Thanks for that article! That is great news, glad to hear they are moving forward with the Atrix design!

i hope they continue the atrix line, our phone is just awesome

ofteno said:
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I agree, I just hope they don't come out with new models every 8 months. :/
That would only continue to fragment development.

Cool! Lets hope the new fp functionality will be included in the ics update!
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Great news and great feeling for me to hear this. Thanks for info, Ken!
I have been loving Moto devices experiences for long time still now.Recently, I have also heard, seen and touched some new Moto decices, such as Atrix 2, Droid 4, Droid Razr, even Droid Razr Maxx, but I've never impressed and satisfied on all more than my current Atrix 1, just due to the following stuffs: FingerPrint scanner, Lapdock, 1900mAh battery, and... the notifications LED. These are just really essential features I need for works and communications of my own.
So great news if I can own an true upgrade of Atrix 1 (4G) in the short future from Motorola. I agree that the new Lapdock experience is not imperative must be Ubuntu OS, but it will even be better with new 4.0 ICS tablet interface, and I get started waiting for this.
Only thing I've been disappointing on the current Atrix 4G till now is the FM radio. Lets hope to the new Atrix will be armed this valued function.
And what I've been dreaming of in the new device? As for me, that is the 3300mAh battery. Yes, just equals to the same one in the Droid Razr Maxx, so its nice enough for me!
Lastly, I hope that Moto will never remove the Notification LED (or Message LED, as called by Moto in their devices manual books) from their all smartphone lines. THIS REALLY MAKES A SMARTPHONE TO BE A SMART ASSISTANT! If Moto keeps this convenience for people, then the world always keep the belief on Moto devices. I wish that I can say directly this to him - the Product Software Integration Manager.
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Would really love if Motorola kept the Atrix name alive!

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Cool! Lets hope the new fp functionality will be included in the ics update!
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That's definitely possible. He never said this new functionality would be limited to new devices.

I hope it won't be too large. Atrix 1 is perfect in size for me.

I hope they lay off the annoying trend of releasing a new device every 3 months and then providing updates a year later.
p.s. which phone are you on right now, ken?

Sorry Motorola.
I will never buy your smartphones(sure if it is a Tegra)again.
The Atrix has too many problem:
-Motoblur Stock Rom laggy
-Gallery slow
-Browser slow
-Videocam stuttering
-Random Reboot
-Sleep of Death
-headphones problem
-low brightness(I can't see anything under the sun)
-dull colors
-Raindrop
-To get an unpdate I have to wait one year..
-I Can't deactivate data connection or Roaming(WTF?)
-WebTop is too slow to be used
I have to change all,the Launcher,Gallery,Camera,Browser,Battery icon,Extended controls to have a decent smartphone.
I will kept my Atrix until I can(I can't spend 300euro so easily)and I'm a little afraid to Unlock Bootloader,beacause there isn't any stable and complete rom.
excuse the outburst.

The best thing about the Atrix and Motorola phones in general are the batteries. The Atrix came equipped with 1930mAh and the RAZR MAXX with freakin' 3300mAh!!
What's more promising is how Motorola still manage to keep the waistline very slim. The RAZR MAXX is 8.99mm. Hopefully the Atrix 3 packs 2500mAh+ with no sacrifice in thickness.
And lastly, in terms of software, Motoblur was previously ridiculously bloated and slow. The leaked ICS update on the RAZR shows that Motorola have followed suit with HTC and have tried to keep things slim. This is another great thing to expect as the slimmer the build, the faster it'll be speed-wise, as well as in terms of update speed (with admittedly Motorola REALLY need to improve on).
And most importantly, Motorola, PLEASE KEEP THE BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED!!!

Nice. Im glad to hear that Moto is moving forward with technology.
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I also hope the Atrix 3 comes with the OMAP 5 series processor - which has dual Cortex A15's clocked at 2.0Ghz as well as the dual-core GPU SGX544MP2 (iPhone 4S uses SGX543MP2). It's also made under the 28nm process, so battery life will be super efficient as well (look at the One S's battery test in GSMArena; it did REALLY well with only a 1650mAh battery).
Also, similar to Tegra 3, it has two Cortex M4's as 'sort of companion cores.'
As Motorola have some sort of deal thingy with TI, I hope this turns out to be true, along with my above statement regarding battery life and software. The exciting thing is that these specs probably may end up true, as Motorola are known for their raw horsepower they put inside their smartphones. Remember the Atrix as the 'most powerful smartphone in the world?'
Wow, now I'm REALLY REALLY hoping that the bootloader doesn't come locked...
EDIT: Seems I was a bit overenthusiastic - the OMAP 5 series is outed for a Q4 2012/Q1 2013 date... so that only leaves us with the OMAP 4470, which is a dual-core A9 with single core SGX544. Slightly more disappointing but maybe Motorola will go Tegra 3?

So the Atrix 3 is expected to be released earlier than Q4 of this year? I'm eligible for an upgrade soon so I will be considering it if it has decent specs.
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Some sort of Atrix 3 before Q4 2012 is likely. I have no source to back up that estimate. But, I've been following the industry for a long time and I know Motorola isn't going to wait 5 more months before releasing something competitive on AT&T.
In the meantime, I'm buying myself an HTC One XL.
The one problem I see for Motorola is this: all phones must have 4G LTE in 2012. That's a given. But, Motorola has practically no relationship with Qualcomm. Ever heard of a Qualcomm SoC in a Motorola phone? Qualcomm is the only maker of a 4G LTE-capable next generation (Cortex-A15) SoC.
So, Motorola has three possibilities:
Create their first ever Qualcomm SoC phones in 2012, build a new relationship
Throw NVIDIA Tegra 3's into their phones, find a separate modem from someone else. Not sure if this is possible right now.
Sacrifice SoC speed/quality for LTE, put out phones with last year's specs.

xploited said:
I hope they lay off the annoying trend of releasing a new device every 3 months and then providing updates a year later.
p.s. which phone are you on right now, ken?
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Atrix 4G!
I also have a DROID RAZR and some other phones lying around from my review biz. But, my main phone is my Atrix.

kennethpenn said:
Atrix 4G!
I also have a DROID RAZR and some other phones lying around from my review biz. But, my main phone is my Atrix.
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Which rom are you currently using?
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IUH1991 said:
Which rom are you currently using?
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AOKP at the moment.
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