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Usage VZW Droid X outside of the US

Hi guys,
i am playing with the idea to buy the droid x. i will get it with a verizon contract but can i use the device, if i travel to europe, like germany, swiss, austria...
or does it only work in the states?
any ideas?

Unfortunately no. Droid X is a CDMA phone, and most of Europe uses GSM technology, where you can swap SIM cards. There are no SIMs for CDMA.
If you have time and don't mind waiting, there is some info going around about Droid Pro, which is a global version of Droid 2. You'll be able to use that baby in Europe.
http://www.androidcentral.com/search/"droid pro"

but the droid pro comes with the keyboard or? i would like to get something without keyboard. droid x looks great.
but how does it work out?
because right now i have a blackberry from vzw and this one workes in europe. i was thinking vzw uses only cdma technology?

Typically Verizon does only use CDMA.
The upcoming Droid Pro is said to have capabilities to do either CDMA or GSM. All of the hardware will be in each phone. Verizon supposedly is going to start using SIM cards around the time of the LTE rollout which could be around the same
time the Pro is introduced.

but the question is, why does my verizon blackberry work in europe, if the only use cdma.
for me cdma sucks, first you can have either data or voice and next thing is i hate to be dictated by the providers which phones i can use or if i want a specific phone i have to change to a diffrent provider. for example the HTC EVO, good device but crappy provider...doesnt make any sense have a high-tech device on a almost no coverage provider.
but you say verizion is switching over to sim? completely or do the use both then?
what is LTE?

Snake-Plissken said:
but the question is, why does my verizon blackberry work in europe, if the only use cdma.
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You have a global BB model. It has both CDMA and GSM capabilities. it uses cdma while you're here on Verizon and your sim card in europe. There is not that many phones like that though...

hmm and thats f... up... we are living in the jet-age, everything is glocal. within one day you can be every where around the world. and we are not able to fix this problem? and its only because everybody wants to push his standard. thats a nightmare....but well maybe it will be fixed one century...

I thought the phone had to be a quad band phone... or are GSM the only ones that can be?

i called verizon and they say i cant use it overseas, because they mainly use sim technology and it is a cdma phone...
another question.
is it possibly to keep my blackberry and if i go overseas to activate the blackberry (best would be if i can do it by myself, i think there was in one of there brochures a how-to) and in the states use the droid x?
or is it hard to get it activated or maybe vzw doesnt even want that?

@Snake-Plissken
Basically your blackberry has to be unlocked. That is it needs to be able to use sims other than default carrier. If it is or if you can get it unlocked, then all you do is buy a sim card from a local operator in europe (should be cheap), put it in your phone, and that gets you on a local network.
@mcwoods
Usually a "global phone" does mean it's quad band.

@meshdub
i think there is a missunderstanding.
how should i explain it: right now i have the blackberry storm 2 but i want to get a droid phone, either droid x or incredible. I am traveling a lot. My plan is to use with vzw my droid phone and when i go on a trip to europe, i will use my blackberry with vzw but on roaming in the country.
the question is, does vzw allow the switch of my phone like that. the best would be if i can activate the desired phone by myself. i think its only a bunch of numbers which have to be dialed.
i want to use both phones with vzw but be able to switch between them.
is this possible?

Oooh I see now, sorry. I didn't realize you wanna stay on vzw in Europe. That I'm not sure, you'll have to talk to them. But usually it's pretty easy to activate new phone. You just dial verizon's activation number and go through automated prompts. I'm not sure if it's any different when dialing from overseas though.
And I have no clue how verizon operates in Europe btw, you'll need to talk to them. They might give you their sim card, or you might have to get one from local operator that's contracted with verizon. I doubt there is a lot of cdma coverage there.

i think the blackberry has already a sim-card in it, it looks like one...and i am able to use it in europe.
my plan is. using droid x in the states and before i leave i will activate my blackberry to have coverage there...
or is there any droid coming up as global phone, except this droid pro or something.... i am looking for something like the x or incredible...

Snake-Plissken said:
i called verizon and they say i cant use it overseas, because they mainly use sim technology and it is a cdma phone...
another question.
is it possibly to keep my blackberry and if i go overseas to activate the blackberry (best would be if i can do it by myself, i think there was in one of there brochures a how-to) and in the states use the droid x?
or is it hard to get it activated or maybe vzw doesnt even want that?
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Yes, you can have a Droid X and still use your Blackberry in Europe. I was in Europe this summer and spoke with VZW about this. They just asked me if I would like to activate my Blackberry while I was overseas.

that sounds good.
blackberry isnt that nice, but well at least i can use it...

[Q] Verizon Fascinate compatible with Telus?

I am buying a Verizon Samsung Fascinate, but I don't think it has a SIM card slot... is there any way to get it to work with my existing telus account? (I currently have a milestone). I know this may seem impossible, but ever since the milestone got gingerbread before motorola even released froyo, I'm a believer of anything...

LuigiC6 said:
I have a Verizon Samsung Fascinate, but I hear that it does not have a SIM card slot... is there any way to get it to work with my existing telus account? (I currently have a milestone). I know this may seem impossible, but ever since the milestone got gingerbread before motorola even released froyo, I'm a believer of anything...
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Completely different...gsm phones can't work on cdma networks and vice versa. No amount of programming is going to get it to work. They're both different technologies.

jenisiz said:
Completely different...gsm phones can't work in cdma networks and vice versa.
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Is Verizon's network not cdma?

LuigiC6 said:
Is Verizon's network not cdma?
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Verizon is cdma. Gsm uses sim cards.

jenisiz said:
Verizon is cdma. Gsm uses sim cards.
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My cdma telus milestone takes a sim card, but I have found a better answer on another site.
Thanks for the try though.

Um, last I checked, Telus uses GSM, not CDMA. I also don't think there is such as a thing as a CDMA Milestone. Well, there is, but it's better known as the original Droid. If you have a Milestone that uses a SIM card, it's a GSM phone. In any case, Verizon's Fascinate will not work on Telus.
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ivorycruncher said:
Um, last I checked, Telus uses GSM, not CDMA. I also don't think there is such as a thing as a CDMA Milestone. Well, there is, but it's better known as the original Droid. If you have a Milestone that uses a SIM card, it's a GSM phone. In any case, Verizon's Fascinate will not work on Telus.
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Umm, last I checked from Telus' website, they offer both cdma and GSM. Meaning that you may be correct about my milestone being GSM. Furthermore, I guess my question would be invalid either way. Thanks

Telus has CDMA and HSPA networks. The Telus Fascinate is HSPA and uses SIM cards. While they share a name, the model number for the Telus Fascinate is T959D, making it more akin to the t-Mobile Vibrant.
Not only that but the physical dimensions of the phones are not even the same so they can't even really share accessories.

daoom said:
Telus has CDMA and HSPA networks. The Telus Fascinate is HSPA and uses SIM cards. While they share a name, the model number for the Telus Fascinate is T959D, making it more akin to the t-Mobile Vibrant.
Not only that but the physical dimensions of the phones are not even the same so they can't even really share accessories.
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Yeah...that's why I was checking. You said verizon fascinate...but nope. There is a telus thread in here.

Hmm, they maintain both CDMA and HSPA+ networks? Bizaare. Well, I stand corrected on that, but I still don't know if the Verizon Fascinate will work on Telus or not. I would imagine the effort necessary would like trying to get a Fascinate on Sprint's network, which is next to impossible unless you've got an inside contact who is willing to activate it for you. There would most likely be some radio hacking involved too.
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jenisiz said:
Yeah...that's why I was checking. You said verizon fascinate...but nope. There is a telus thread in here.
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It is a verizon fascinate that I want to use on the telus network.

Why do you specifically want to use a verizon samsung fascinate? It should be possible because when I go to canada, I roam on telus and bell. But you can't just pop in a sim since there is no sim in the verizon fascinate. So you would have to find someone who is both willing and able to activate it for you. Personally if I was on telus, i'd opt for the international galaxy s.
Blackhole 4.2 on EB01 Froyo.

lowtech80 said:
Why do you specifically want to use a verizon samsung fascinate? It should be possible because when I go to canada, I roam on telus and bell. But you can't just pop in a sim since there is no sim in the verizon fascinate. So you would have to find someone who is both willing and able to activate it for you. Personally if I was on telus, i'd opt for the international galaxy s.
Blackhole 4.2 on EB01 Froyo.
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I know it's weird lol But I'm getting this phone for like 10$, thats the only reason I'm willing to go through the hassle, otherwise I would just stick with my Milestone.

I've actually cancelled the order. Turns out the phone was a stolen phone, and to re-activate it, I would have to change the ESN number, which is possible, but I don't want a stolen phone.

LuigiC6 said:
I've actually cancelled the order. Turns out the phone was a stolen phone, and to re-activate it, I would have to change the ESN number, which is possible, but I don't want a stolen phone.
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Sorry to hear thar. If it's too good to be true, it usually is.
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LuigiC6 said:
I've actually cancelled the order. Turns out the phone was a stolen phone, and to re-activate it, I would have to change the ESN number, which is possible, but I don't want a stolen phone.
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Shoot i'd buy it as a test phone. Still available?

Well what do you mean stolen, like out of a store or from a person? if its the latter i would buy it for 10$ and try and find the original owners
hopefully they would give your some money for your troubles

lol Search it on ebay. The seller says that you can't activate it with verizon cause it's stolen. Personally I don't want anything to do with it lol

verizon to at&t

I have a friend that switched from verizon to at&t. He asked me if it was possible to unlock his verizon droid 2 so that he could use it with his new carrier. I told him I would look into it, does anyone have any suggestions?

sirens6 said:
I have a friend that switched from verizon to at&t. He asked me if it was possible to unlock his verizon droid 2 so that he could use it with his new carrier. I told him I would look into it, does anyone have any suggestions?
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Regular Droid 2 cannot be used on at&t or t-mobile as it is CDMA only. Droid 2 Global maybe able to used AT&T/Tmo 2G (EDGE)

You can't. They both use different types of networks to communicate.

Question about bands

Just a little curious, since I've never done much carrier hopping.
Say I buy this phone from T-mobile, would it work on Verizon? My vz phone uses a micro sim as well, but I know there are different bands the carriers run off, and gsm vs cdma and such. But some phones work on both types, correct? Is this one of them? I really don't like the look of the verizon version...

Killerz187 said:
Just a little curious, since I've never done much carrier hopping.
Say I buy this phone from T-mobile, would it work on Verizon? My vz phone uses a micro sim as well, but I know there are different bands the carriers run off, and gsm vs cdma and such. But some phones work on both types, correct? Is this one of them? I really don't like the look of the verizon version...
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It wont.

Ahh, that's what I thought, thanks for the verifcation, appreciate it.

No but if you buy it from verizon it will work on T-Mobile.
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[Q] Verizon GN3 cdma or gsm?

For some reason, I thought the salesman said both Verizon & ATT GN3's were gsm. Is that true or is VZ cdma? I thought I read somewhere they were switching over at some time. I was thinking gsm was preferable, but is it?
Thanks in advance.

The N3 is world phone so yes its gsm too
Sim unlocked ? I don't know the note 2 was unlocked but you can't add APN settings

Speedy Gonzalez said:
The N3 is world phone so yes its gsm too
Sim unlocked ? I don't know the note 2 was unlocked but you can't add APN settings
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Thanks very much. So I could use it at some future time on Straight Talk network? What about ATT after contract met? But would an ATT phone transfer to VZ if it's a world phone?

kat3k said:
Thanks very much. So I could use it at some future time on Straight Talk network? What about ATT after contract met? But would an ATT phone transfer to VZ if it's a world phone?
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The ATT phones don't have the CDMA hardware to work on Verizon.
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kat3k said:
For some reason, I thought the salesman said both Verizon & ATT GN3's were gsm. Is that true or is VZ cdma? I thought I read somewhere they were switching over at some time. I was thinking gsm was preferable, but is it?
Thanks in advance.
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All verizon phones have CDMA radios in them. The 3G service from verizon is CDMA. International phones utilize a GSM 3G radio as well, as Europe uses GSM exclusively. The 4G radio, however, is GSM. Therefore, all 4G verizon phones are also GSM. Until 3G gets phased out, All Verizon 4G phones will have both GSM and CDMA radios.