For some reason, I thought the salesman said both Verizon & ATT GN3's were gsm. Is that true or is VZ cdma? I thought I read somewhere they were switching over at some time. I was thinking gsm was preferable, but is it?
Thanks in advance.
The N3 is world phone so yes its gsm too
Sim unlocked ? I don't know the note 2 was unlocked but you can't add APN settings
Speedy Gonzalez said:
The N3 is world phone so yes its gsm too
Sim unlocked ? I don't know the note 2 was unlocked but you can't add APN settings
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Thanks very much. So I could use it at some future time on Straight Talk network? What about ATT after contract met? But would an ATT phone transfer to VZ if it's a world phone?
kat3k said:
Thanks very much. So I could use it at some future time on Straight Talk network? What about ATT after contract met? But would an ATT phone transfer to VZ if it's a world phone?
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The ATT phones don't have the CDMA hardware to work on Verizon.
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kat3k said:
For some reason, I thought the salesman said both Verizon & ATT GN3's were gsm. Is that true or is VZ cdma? I thought I read somewhere they were switching over at some time. I was thinking gsm was preferable, but is it?
Thanks in advance.
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All verizon phones have CDMA radios in them. The 3G service from verizon is CDMA. International phones utilize a GSM 3G radio as well, as Europe uses GSM exclusively. The 4G radio, however, is GSM. Therefore, all 4G verizon phones are also GSM. Until 3G gets phased out, All Verizon 4G phones will have both GSM and CDMA radios.
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Will the evo 4g work with at&t? If yes, what needs to be done?
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Will the evo 4g work with at&t? If yes, what needs to be done?
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it will not work with at&t it is literally IMPOSSIBLE. At&t is gsm and sprint is cmda gsm uses sim cards and cdma does not
No sorry, The Sprint version of the Evo 4G will not work with AT&T due to it being cdma, while AT&T uses gsm that requires a sim. The best I can suggest is to sale the evo and buy a similar device within price range.
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Will the evo 4g work with at&t? If yes, what needs to be done?
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No.
Sprint = CDMA
AT&T = GSM, simcard
The evo can't work on AT&T because it isn't a GSM phone, and therefore no sim card.
oh crud didn't know at&t was gsm only... was scouting phones for my sis hehe thank you all.
These new att plans have me intrigued. I know I put a T-Mobile sim in my Verizon note 3 I get lte. Is it the same for att? If I put their sim in my Verizon note 3 do I get lte as well?
Thanks to anyone who knows 100%
I'm no expert but I'd say no. Since att is gsm. And Verizon is cdma
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yes but slower than original gsm phone should had
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nelms said:
I'm no expert but I'd say no. Since att is gsm. And Verizon is cdma
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I just had to chime in. I hate when people give this response. LOL
Most of the LTE phones on verizon are CDMA & GSM. I used an AT&T sim card in the Verizon Galaxy S4 and got HSPA+ speeds. got about 6 Mpbs up and 3.5 down.
NOTE: VERIZON PHONES DO HAVE SIM CARDS AND YOU CAN USE GSM SIM CARDS WITH THEM. THEY ARE CDMA & GSM.
NOW PLEASE PLEASE STOP GIVING ANSNWER LIKE ""I'm no expert but I'd say no. Since att is gsm. And Verizon is cdma """"""
I get 4g download speeds on my Verizon Galaxy note3 on tmobile. Has anyone With experience tried a Verizon note 3 with an att sim card?
Verizon 4G Phones are unlocked and SIM compatible with CDMA/GSM/LTE.
Most phones using Qualcomm chips will get HSPA+ and some will get LTE depending on the radio version. I've been able to get LTE on both the GS4 and G2 on AIO wireless
(ATT).
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Really ? youre gonna talk crap? He said would he get lte speed.. the answer is no. because atts lte bands arent the same as vzws. So chill it with the all caps. and not to mention your example of a s4 getting hspa+ speed (which is not LTE ) didnt validate what your answer to the OPs question anyway... There was no reason to bash what i said. seeing as how your post did nothing to help the OP at all. Neither of us knew 100% Need to learn a little respect. Cant we all just get along without it being a pissing contest??? Just trying to help here. Heres a link from some others that have already answered the question.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...zon-note-3-lte-interoperable-t-lte-bands.html
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I just had to chime in. I hate when people give this response. LOL
Most of the LTE phones on verizon are CDMA & GSM. I used an AT&T sim card in the Verizon Galaxy S4 and got HSPA+ speeds. got about 6 Mpbs up and 3.5 down.
NOTE: VERIZON PHONES DO HAVE SIM CARDS AND YOU CAN USE GSM SIM CARDS WITH THEM. THEY ARE CDMA & GSM.
NOW PLEASE PLEASE STOP GIVING ANSNWER LIKE ""I'm no expert but I'd say no. Since att is gsm. And Verizon is cdma """"""
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stu5797 said:
I get 4g download speeds on my Verizon Galaxy note3 on tmobile. Has anyone With experience tried a Verizon note 3 with an att sim card?
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I think at&t uses a different frequency for 4g than tmobile. Google what frequency at&t uses for 4g and what 4g frequencies are supported on the Verizon Note 3.
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the title says it, i kind of want to do this, maybe not for that long, most likely it would be temporary.
jrpjordan24 said:
the title says it, i kind of want to do this, maybe not for that long, most likely it would be temporary.
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No. Google it and you will find that Verizon and tmobile networks are different. Verizon is CDMA and tmobile is GSM. Or something like that.
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Mr. bird said:
No. Google it and you will find that Verizon and tmobile networks are different. Verizon is CDMA and tmobile is GSM. Or something like that.
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I use Verizon phone on T-Mobile network. Verizon S5 has sim slot for sim cards. All Verizon 4LTE phones, GSM unlock.
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I use Verizon phone on T-Mobile network. Verizon S5 has sim slot for sim cards. All Verizon 4LTE phones, GSM unlock.
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This is true.
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U can use it but lte will not work tmobile is not compatible with Verizon lte
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U can use it but lte will not work tmobile is not compatible with Verizon lte
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It not true. I confirm LTE works fine with out any problem.
If you are able to use other carrier phones and just pop a Sim card in and your good to go, then in the future can I buy a variant of the phone I want with an unlocked bootloader and be rooted with no issues?
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If you are able to use other carrier phones and just pop a Sim card in and your good to go, then in the future can I buy a variant of the phone I want with an unlocked bootloader and be rooted with no issues?
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Nope, i'm actually surprised that Verizon didn't lock the phone if what the above poster said is true. The bootloader isn't what you need unlocked to move from carrier to carrier. Phones with sim cards are generally GSM and phones without sim cards are generally CDMA. GSM phones are normally locked to the specific carrier that you bought it from. CDMA phones are not usually taken on any other networks unless you are moving to a network like cricket which takes what it can get
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Nope, i'm actually surprised that Verizon didn't lock the phone if what the above poster said is true.
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As he said, Verizon 4G phones are all sim unlocked. Phones like this and the Note 2, which I just came from, have the CDMA and GSM bands. It is just as simple as putting in the SIM, change the APN, and be working. That said, the Note 2 could not get a 4G GSM signal only HSPA+ because of the bands it supported. I haven't checked the S5 yet, but I do believe I have seen that it does support some of the 4G GSM bands.
You are right about the CDMA part which is why it wouldn't be wise to buy, say a Sprint S5, and then come to Verizon because it does not support any CDMA bands.
so you guys can confirm that it is sim unlocked?
They always are. All Verizon Wireless 4G phones are SIM unlocked.
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As he said, Verizon 4G phones are all sim unlocked. Phones like this and the Note 2, which I just came from, have the CDMA and GSM bands. It is just as simple as putting in the SIM, change the APN, and be working. That said, the Note 2 could not get a 4G GSM signal only HSPA+ because of the bands it supported. I haven't checked the S5 yet, but I do believe I have seen that it does support some of the 4G GSM bands.
You are right about the CDMA part which is why it wouldn't be wise to buy, say a Sprint S5, and then come to Verizon because it does not support any CDMA bands.
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Bare with me if this seems like an absolutely stupid question.
When I travel I have a GSM HTC One S that I pop in a pre-paid SIM to use (say, 3 in Ireland). I believe this was a T-Mobile phone previously that I carrier unlocked. If I have a Verizon CDMA S5, I could pop in the 3 SIM and be able to use it (maybe not 4G depending on the bands) provided I updated the APN information?
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Bare with me if this seems like an absolutely stupid question.
When I travel I have a GSM HTC One S that I pop in a pre-paid SIM to use (say, 3 in Ireland). I believe this was a T-Mobile phone previously that I carrier unlocked. If I have a Verizon CDMA S5, I could pop in the 3 SIM and be able to use it (maybe not 4G depending on the bands) provided I updated the APN information?
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Correct. I used my Note 2 in multiple European countries, lastly in Rome where it was stolen. Take your Verizon sim out at the airport, put the new one in, change APN, and voila.
(carriers I have tested with - Orange, Vodafone(multiple places), 3, Rogers in Canada)
Your S5 on Verizon isn't solely CDMA. If you look up any website with the bands it supports, you will see the GSM bands.
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Correct. I used my Note 2 in multiple European countries, lastly in Rome where it was stolen. Take your Verizon sim out at the airport, put the new one in, change APN, and voila.
(carriers I have tested with - Orange, Vodafone(multiple places), 3, Rogers in Canada)
Your S5 on Verizon isn't solely CDMA. If you look up any website with the bands it supports, you will see the GSM bands.
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That's fantastic. Thank you!
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That's fantastic. Thank you!
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More than welcome. And here is the link so you can check the bands when looking at foreign carriers.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4408
And even without 4G, it is still plenty fast enough to use the internet, google maps, and stream music.
What if you canceled your service and went to tmobile. Would it still work?
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More than welcome. And here is the link so you can check the bands when looking at foreign carriers.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4408
And even without 4G, it is still plenty fast enough to use the internet, google maps, and stream music.
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Looks like the One S and S5 share the same GSM bands... I'll definitely have to try it out. I know my 3 SIM works here in the US too on the phone. Thanks again, really helpful.
ironfisted said:
What if you canceled your service and went to tmobile. Would it still work?
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Yes, or Straight Talk, or whomever.
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Yes, or Straight Talk, or whomever.
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But Straight Talk don't have LTE.
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But Straight Talk don't have LTE.
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That wasn't the question. The question, as posed, was would it work? It absolutely will work with speeds up to HSPA+.
Can I use a Tmobile Note 4 on AT&T and vice versa and have it work with LTE?
In other words, is the Note 4 interchangeable with both Tmobile and AT&T LTE service?
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Can I use a Tmobile Note 4 on AT&T and vice versa and have it work with LTE?
In other words, is the Note 4 interchangeable with both Tmobile and AT&T LTE service?
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yes
Potentially, yes. You could do the reverse, so I can't see why it wouldn't work.
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You guys are positive that LTE will still work on both networks?
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You guys are positive that LTE will still work on both networks?
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It's showing the same bands to it should work, no one will know until they actually test it. The Note 3 also had the same bands, but some anecdotal reports stated the reception was a bit worse and it didn't hang onto LTE as well. Nothing scientific, just users reporting this so make of it what you will. Personally my business can't take the chance of reception issues so I just bit the bullet and got the ATT version knowing I am saying goodbye to root. Once again this is unsubstantiated, it's just what I got from hours of looking at all the forum posts about using the Tmo Note 3 on ATT.
How about a Verizon Note 4 on AT&T? Verizon is charging almost $150 less for an off contract phone, however I have a mobile share plan with other AT&T phones on contract so I'd need to stay on AT&T if possible...
Is it possible to "unlock" (or whatever the term is) an AT&T phone to use with Tmobile?
I want to use AT&T mainly but when I'm traveling internationally, I want to be able to switch to Tmobile.
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Is it possible to "unlock" (or whatever the term is) an AT&T phone to use with Tmobile?
I want to use AT&T mainly but when I'm traveling internationally, I want to be able to switch to Tmobile.
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Yes you can and the term is "unlock". Just make sure the bands are compatible on your at&t phone with the Tmobile network.
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Yes you can and the term is "unlock". Just make sure the bands are compatible on your at&t phone with the Tmobile network.
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Thanks!
Well, that's what I want to know. Will LTE work on both networks with either or both Tmobile and at&t versions?
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How about a Verizon Note 4 on AT&T? Verizon is charging almost $150 less for an off contract phone, however I have a mobile share plan with other AT&T phones on contract so I'd need to stay on AT&T if possible...
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I know you can use TMOBILE PHONES on ATT - I assume you can do the reverse -but I don't think you can run TMOBILE PHONES on Verizon - or Verizon PHones on TMOBILE - I say this because the roms created for Verizon were really never very compatible for Tmobile phones ( at least not for me on any of the roms I tried to flash - data didn't work - wifi didn't work - ) so I htink they have different kinds of radios - but I am not a developer so that is only a guess -
USE TMOBILE phone on ATT and you are fine
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Is it possible to "unlock" (or whatever the term is) an AT&T phone to use with Tmobile?
I want to use AT&T mainly but when I'm traveling internationally, I want to be able to switch to Tmobile.
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Yes - as long as you manually add the APNS - but keep in mind the ATT PHONE will have a locked bootloader and it will probably be a while until someone finds a way to root the ATT PHONE - I say this based on what happened with the Note3 and S5 - I assume the same will be the case for ATT NOte 4s
If somebody takes an AT&T phone to T-Mobile, it will get fully functional LTE (as they both use band 4 aws). However, T-Mobile has built most of its 3G network on Band 4 UMTS / HSPA (AWS 1700/2100) which AT&T phones to not support. This coverage footprint is bigger than their current LTE network. The AT&T phone will get Band 2 (1900) UMTS / HSPA in the areas T-Mobile has refarmed.
A T-Mobile phone is fully compatible with AT&T. All T-Mobile phones support bands 2 and 5 for 3G (H+). T-Mobile phones also support AT&T's Band 17 for roaming reasons.
Be advised that if your using a T-Mobile device on AT&T (preferably an LTE device) it may not get the best reception, as AT&T optimizes their modems for their lower frequencies. Last year my T-Mobile Note 3 LTE reception was awful on AT&T. The T-Mobile S5 on AT&T was improved, but not as good as AT&T's own S5's reception.
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If somebody takes an AT&T phone to T-Mobile, it will get fully functional LTE (as they both use band 4 aws). However, T-Mobile has built most of its 3G network on Band 4 UMTS / HSPA (AWS 1700/2100) which AT&T phones to not support. This coverage footprint is bigger than their current LTE network. The AT&T phone will get Band 2 (1900) UMTS / HSPA in the areas T-Mobile has refarmed.
A T-Mobile phone is fully compatible with AT&T. All T-Mobile phones support bands 2 and 5 for 3G (H+). T-Mobile phones also support AT&T's Band 17 for roaming reasons.
Be advised that if your using a T-Mobile device on AT&T (preferably an LTE device) it may not get the best reception, as AT&T optimizes their modems for their lower frequencies. Last year my T-Mobile Note 3 LTE reception was awful on AT&T. The T-Mobile S5 on AT&T was improved, but not as good as AT&T's own S5's reception.
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I am pretty sure I know the answer to this - but if the ATT modem is better for att users - if someone does have a TOMBILE PHONE - why is that we can't flash an ATT Modem on the TOMBILE Phone?
I realize there is a chance of 'brcking" but if the phones are so close to each other anyway - why can't you flash an ATT Modem on a TMOBILE phone? Anyone?.
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I am pretty sure I know the answer to this - but if the ATT modem is better for att users - if someone does have a TOMBILE PHONE - why is that we can't flash an ATT Modem on the TOMBILE Phone?
I realize there is a chance of 'brcking" but if the phones are so close to each other anyway - why can't you flash an ATT Modem on a TMOBILE phone? Anyone?.
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I'm not sure. But a few years ago there was a guy from Canada using a Rogers device ( I think the S3?) anyway AT&T had just released an update for their S3 and it drastically improved signal strength and data speeds. He took it upon himself to flash only the modem from CWM. The phone rebooted and he had no IMEI number. Therefore his phone couldn't even connect to the network. I'm not sure how or if he resolved it. But that lesson right there made me never flash any carrier's modem on my device.
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I'm not sure. But a few years ago there was a guy from Canada using a Rogers device ( I think the S3?) anyway AT&T had just released an update for their S3 and it drastically improved signal strength and data speeds. He took it upon himself to flash only the modem from CWM. The phone rebooted and he had no IMEI number. Therefore his phone couldn't even connect to the network. I'm not sure how or if he resolved it. But that lesson right there made me never flash any carrier's modem on my device.
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That would keep me away too - but it's too bad - as much a like as the variants are - it is too bad they are not more interchangeable
Hello, I recently came across a Note 3 tmobile variant online that is unlocked. I know that it is a dual band cell phone and I am looking to use it on my Sprint account. The person I acquired it from says that she used it on Verizon (even after a point when she would not benefit from lying). I am not completely new to flashing phones over from one CDMA carrier to another (prls, msls, mdns, NAM, programming, etc.), nor am I am new to rooting etc. However I am beyond lost when trying to go from TMo to Sprint on a dual band phone. Is this possible? How might I go about accomplishing this? Will I be locked into a specific rom? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
By dual-band, you mean CDMA and gsm?
You can't flash a Sprint ROM into a T-Mobile phone. and you can't convert an n900t to a CDMA.
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By dual-band, you mean CDMA and gsm?
You can't flash a Sprint ROM into a T-Mobile phone. and you can't convert an n900t to a CDMA.
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Yes it has GSM and CDMA from everything I have seen online, additionally in the settings of the phone itself it also offers a choice in connectivity to GSM or CDMA.
I don't have the phone but are you sure it doesn't say wcdma in there n900t?
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I don't have the phone but are you sure it doesn't say wcdma in there n900t?
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Ahh, good call. It does. Thanks.