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So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
I think you mean HBOOT...
elborak said:
I think you mean HBOOT...
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Lol, any info?
2. Nothing important.
3. No.
4. It should, but I've never run CM6.
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So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hyboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hyboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
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1. Bootloader.
2. none that I know of or noticed
3. No a nandroid does not change bootloader. You need a special img file to use in hboot to flash back to an older version and also need S-OFF (unrevoked forever) to do so
4. You should not have to update hboot to install any rom. The latest OTA works fine on any hboot I believe, I have hboot .79 on my phone. You don't need .92 for anything to work properly. CM6 will work fine with all hboots.
hyboot is far superior to hboot....... duh
borgey420 said:
hyboot is far superior to hboot....... duh
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Thanks for mocking me. Incredible does rom (the cm6 mash up) needs hboot. 92 A
Adrynalyne has a ROM (Fourth Wave) that needs .92 HBOOT as well. First mock is free.
yes .92 is the latest and it rules. lol.
apparently the new kernel source is picky about hboot for some reason.
there are some differences with .92 but who cares really. if you need it for the rom/kernel you want then flash it. plus you now will have the latest.
can someone post a link for the 92. HBOOT i have been looking for it to Flash please
RYANIMOSITY said:
can someone post a link for the 92. HBOOT i have been looking for it to Flash please
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http://adrynalyne.us/
Would I upgrade this like I would with a radio?
Installed like a radio,ended up in the reboot loop in the boot loader. Had to access clock work recovery and do a nandroid backup.
now I have the latest version without any additional problems
I also got in to an hboot loop after updating to .92. I was able to get it running again by accessing Clockworkmod and doing an advanced restore of boot from my last nandroid backup.
I guess I just can't help but tinker with these things. One day it will catch up to me I guess.
FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
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It does NOT require the new hboot
I've proven this because I have the stock hboot
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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Yeah, that didn't work for me. Flashed the new HBOOT, stuck in loop, pushed Kings #4 w/recovery, still stuck in HBOOT loop. Reflashed ROM w/o wipe, everything's back to normal.
willhill said:
FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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LMFOL wish I new that yesterday. I about pooed on my self when I got the loop. It took me a few times before I could even get in to recovery. Then life was good again
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http://adrynalyne.us/
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Thanks for the link... anyone have a hashfile to compare the download to?
The .92 HBOOT has a larger partition size than the previous versions, so yes there is an advantage to the newest bootloader. Just be advised that flashing the .92 will result in your old backups (nandroids) to no longer work. You'll have to make new backups.
I just rooted my phone, I first thought this would be really useful but it isn't really for me. Am I right in saying that the only way to revert back to my original ROM(?) will be to flash my phone effectively loosing all the data on it? Or can I keep all my data, my text messages phone history etc?
I haven't installed any custom ROMs, just rooted using unrevoked 3. Will my OTA updates be blocked? Can I update to 2.2 (official) when it's released? Will this unroot my phone?
Thanks, I'm new to all this stuff.
u dont need to unroot, just install ota and phone will be unrooted
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u dont need to unroot, just install ota and phone will be unrooted
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So the OTA updates aren't blocked because I'm not using a custom ROM?
Im not sure but i think if the phone is rooted you have to install the update manualy from recovery if the ota is here
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So I will loose no data off my phone by doing the OTA update when it is released? And my phone will become unrooted too?
data will be lost, but if you did nandroid backup you can restore later data
dl titanium backup from market first, backup all your apps, and then you'll be fine.
Hy, i have the same questions myself, glad to know more about it using your topick here. But i have a little question: if your phone was originaly in an different language (Dutch in my case), will this OTA update reset the phone again in that original language?
Thanks in advance,
Erwin
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Hy, i have the same questions myself, glad to know more about it using your topick here. But i have a little question: if your phone was originaly in an different language (Dutch in my case), will this OTA update reset the phone again in that original language?
Thanks in advance,
Erwin
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It should do, as long as your phone is still network locked?
Anyway can't you change your Phone's language from the settings menu? Settings>Language & Keyboard>Select locale
Oh and thanks for all the replies guys, I may actually keep my phone rooted, I will probably flash Wildpuzzle when it supports the European features such as friend stream which seem to be blocked on the China ROM.
I have a BELL Desire Z which I rooted, S-Off and then flashed with the HTC Sense ROM from Paul O'brien. I am having more issues than anything so I want to know how I get back to the stock ROM.
I take it you dont have a nandroid backup? You could try that RUU method, it usually restores your self back to stock. I have my stock nandroid iimage lying around if ya need it.
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The bell rom posted is .1, not the .5 version that's shipped.. so I don't think it's the same. So the RUU method wouldn't work..
I did a backup, but will it reset all my personal settings etc?
Is there a stock released ROM from HTC or bell or even an update on the way?
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Be careful ! Do not try to flash an RUU that is older than the ROM you have, if you have S-OFF or you could end up bricking your phone - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
You can use the "debranding" guide in the dev forum to go back to an older ROM if you have S-OFF.
In about it says the software is 1.34.405.5
What do I need to do exactly to get back to stock safely.
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In about it says the software is 1.34.405.5
What do I need to do exactly to get back to stock safely.
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If your current ROM is 1.34.405.5, then you should be able to safely use either the stock 1.34.405.5 RUU, or the ROM extracted from that.
It's if you're trying to flash a ROM with a lower version number than that you're already running, if you're S-OFF, that you'll run into problems.
Thanks for the info, is there anywhere to download the stock Bell ROM from? Alot of these threads are confusing for a n00b like myself with all the abbreviations and different versions.
I basically want to get back to stock, root the phone, delete the bloatware and overclock it.
I was wondering... if you made a nandroid backup after having done some app installations and such of the stock rom, and you flashed back to that backup, you'd have your original ROM with all the app installations and settings you set right? What happens if you then proceed to do a factory reset? Does the ROM revert back to stock? Or does it simply revert back to the state of the ROM when you made the backup?
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Thanks for the info, is there anywhere to download the stock Bell ROM from? Alot of these threads are confusing for a n00b like myself with all the abbreviations and different versions.
I basically want to get back to stock, root the phone, delete the bloatware and overclock it.
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Although several stock ROMs are on this forum, unfortunately it looks like the current Bell ROM isn't there, only an older one. It would obviously be very useful if someone could get hold of it and upload it.
You can do a factory reset to set everything back to how your ROM came initially, if it's still on the stock ROM. But if you want to delete the bloatware and overclock etc, you may well be better flashing a different ROM, have a look and see what ones sound good.
My question is sort of along the line of that of the OP, since I'm somewhat new to this process still I hope you'll humor me. I've done a ton of reading, but I still have a few q's I couldn't seem to find buried in my research...
I have a Bell Desire Z, unlocked, rooted, S-OFF. I installed ClockWork & flashed the recovery partition and did a nandroid backup of my stock Bell partition. I then did a wipe / install of the non-sense G2 ROM Paul put out and have been using it (and enjoying it) quite a bit.
I think I'd like to try a Cyanogen ROM now, is it really just as simple as flashing the RC3 (doing a complete wipe, obviously) and then I'm good to go? I can then just restore apps/settings with Titanium...
If I want to revert back to my original Bell ROM, do I just restore that ROM from the nandroid backup I made as soon as I installed ClockWork?
If I'm on Pauls G2 Rom (or Cyanogen's ROM), and I do a 'factory wipe', that just resets the factory settings of that particular ROM right? It wouldn't take me back to the stock Bell ROM would it? (very sorry if this seems noobish)
Thanks folks.
Anyone?
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I have a Bell Desire Z, unlocked, rooted, S-OFF. I installed ClockWork & flashed the recovery partition and did a nandroid backup of my stock Bell partition. I then did a wipe / install of the non-sense G2 ROM Paul put out and have been using it (and enjoying it) quite a bit.
I think I'd like to try a Cyanogen ROM now, is it really just as simple as flashing the RC3 (doing a complete wipe, obviously) and then I'm good to go? I can then just restore apps/settings with Titanium...
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Yes, you can wipe and flash Cyanogen. Yes, you can restore apps with Titanium. However, I don't yet understand how this works with "system"-type apps. e.g. what if you are using a different SMS app in Cyanogen to the stock ROM, can you restore your messages ? Of course if you are restoring an app that you installed on your stock ROM, to the Cyanogen ROM then Titanium should do it fine.
If I want to revert back to my original Bell ROM, do I just restore that ROM from the nandroid backup I made as soon as I installed ClockWork?
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Yes.
If I'm on Pauls G2 Rom (or Cyanogen's ROM), and I do a 'factory wipe', that just resets the factory settings of that particular ROM right? It wouldn't take me back to the stock Bell ROM would it? (very sorry if this seems noobish)
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Yes, it just takes you back to the factory settings for that ROM that you're currently on. It won't take you back to the original ROM that came with your phone if you've switched to something else.
thank-you very much steviewevie I was hoping you'd respond! I appreciate it. It was the vote of confidence I needed to proceed.
sickens said:
thank-you very much steviewevie I was hoping you'd respond! I appreciate it. It was the vote of confidence I needed to proceed.
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You're welcome. I was pretty confused by what Titanium did at first, until I actually came to use it (along with a Nandroid backup) to do a backup of all my stuff and restore (using Nandroid) after I'd temporarily reverted to an earlier ROM.
I need to revert back to the stock Bell Desire Z ROM as well but didn't make a backup.
Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?
* They will release it when they want to. We have no option or control over them. If they want to try, it is their wish, if they don't want to try, again it is their wish. Live with it.
* If you are already on 2.2.1, there's no point disabling search for updates because it is extremely unlikely there will be any.
*Sigh*, why cant you read already existing threads before creating another one? Is it too hard?
omfg! seems like you have disabled search function for this forum, this topic gets posted at least once a day
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Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?
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just re rooted my wildfire on froyo
chubby65 said:
just re rooted my wildfire on froyo
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How did you do this ?
I was told that if we make a new thread everyday about it they will update it!!
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How did you do this ?
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when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho
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when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho
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WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.
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WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.
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so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?
chubby65 said:
so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?
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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.
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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.
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dont know how i managed it but thats what i've done
If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.
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If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.
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when i went back to the stock rom it was deffo 2.2.1 i put the wildpuzzle rom straight over the top of it
Not possible. There is some error in communication somewhere, but, if it were possible to directly put Custom ROMs over the official 2.2.1, we wouldnt have had threads like this everyday.
unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone
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unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone
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no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again
chubby65 said:
no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again
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Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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tell me how to share and i will
Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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this is the rom i used to get the 2.2 upgrade http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LF2TWEHJ
But isn't it possible to modify oryginal rom from HTC to downgrade HBOOT , and then make Wildfire rootable? Or make some crash in HBOOT witch will allow to root? That's a lot of ways, is it possible that HTC make Wildfire really unrootable on 2,2,1? That they make unlockable bootloader? Like a motorola?
Well, I'm kind of at a crossroads here. I'm running an unrooted 2.2, but since I deleted a few bloats I'm unable to go to Gingerbread over the air. On one hand I can re-add the apks back to my phone and go to the official 2.3.4 or I can root and use a 2.3.4 rom. My question is, which is the easiest to do and are there any drawbacks of having the rooted version of gingerbread? Meaning, does the OTA version have any additional features that I'll lose with the rooted one (updated radio, etc?). Thanks for the time and help everyone on here puts!
Most people here will lean towards telling you to root. There's no downside to rooting, only upsides. You can ALWAYS unroot and return to stock if you need to return the phone for warranty replacement.
I'd say just root. You can install a perfectly stock pre-rooted OTA build if you like the stock look-and-feel (its perfectly stock, just rooted), but at the same time you can always install other ROMs to try out as well.
And either way you get all the bonuses of root, such as ad-blockers, backup apps, etc..
As far as radios, you can flash any radio you'd like. I'd recommend just flashing the recommended T-mous 2.3 OTA radio, which is 26.08.04.30 I believe.
I personally installed this stock pre-rooted ROM and it works perfectly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211143
And here's the wiki to follow to gain root properly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
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I personally installed this stock pre-rooted ROM and it works perfectly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211143
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A newbie question here... I just rooted my stock Froyo 2.2 and have ROM Manager installed. Do I need to 'Wipe Data and Cache' when flashing this ROM? The guides I read said this should always be done, but that'd mean losing my apps, settings and other data if I'm not mistaken.
As far as radios, you can flash any radio you'd like. I'd recommend just flashing the recommended T-mous 2.3 OTA radio, which is 26.08.04.30 I believe.
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My current radio is 26.03.02.26 - is it required to flash the newer one you mentioned or can I leave the existing one alone when flashing the new ROM?
Thanks a lot, I still need to learn a lot about this stuff
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A newbie question here... I just rooted my stock Froyo 2.2 and have ROM Manager installed. Do I need to 'Wipe Data and Cache' when flashing this ROM? The guides I read said this should always be done, but that'd mean losing my apps, settings and other data if I'm not mistaken.
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Yes, you really need to wipe data/factory reset before flashing this ROM. You can use an app like 'Titanium Backup' to back up all of your apps+data to your SD card, then restore them to the new ROM. DO NOT backup/restore system data though.
Also, its always a great idea to do a nandroid (ROM manager) backup of your current ROM before wiping/flashing the new one
My current radio is 26.03.02.26 - is it required to flash the newer one you mentioned or can I leave the existing one alone when flashing the new ROM?
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Its not required, but its usually recommended to flash the radio intended for the ROM you're using. You can find a list of radios and the ROMs they're associated with in the dev section. I recommend installing them via the PC10IMG.zip in the bootloader.
Thanks a lot, I still need to learn a lot about this stuff
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No problem.
Thanks again... everything went without a hitch.
I left the existing radio for the time being and the new ROM works fine so far.
The only pain was the reinstallation of all my apps, but Titanium took care of that. Just time-consuming
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Thanks again... everything went without a hitch.
I left the existing radio for the time being and the new ROM works fine so far.
The only pain was the reinstallation of all my apps, but Titanium took care of that. Just time-consuming
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if you buy the full version you can restore them all at once
might work if you want to flash any other ROMs, which im pretty sure youre gonna start doing now that you know how to
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Thanks again... everything went without a hitch.
I left the existing radio for the time being and the new ROM works fine so far.
The only pain was the reinstallation of all my apps, but Titanium took care of that. Just time-consuming
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Glad it worked. If you ever want to flash ROMs with any decent frequency you'll wanna pay for the PRO version. Its totally worth it.
martonikaj said:
As far as radios, you can flash any radio you'd like. I'd recommend just flashing the recommended T-mous 2.3 OTA radio, which is 26.08.04.30 I believe.
I personally installed this stock pre-rooted ROM and it works perfectly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211143
And here's the wiki to follow to gain root properly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
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2 weeks ago I had to send my phone in under warranty. They told me to back up my data as HTC would restore (Thank God I didnt listen to them). Anyways, I received my phone yesterday with a replaced main board. My phone wasn't previously rooted and I had already did the OTA etc so couldn't root. I notice they updated me to 2.3.3 stock. Before I do anything this time around I would like to root my phone before putting data back. Is it as simple as following these steps? Im on Bells network. Also where is it I find the radio version??
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2 weeks ago I had to send my phone in under warranty. They told me to back up my data as HTC would restore (Thank God I didnt listen to them). Anyways, I received my phone yesterday with a replaced main board. My phone wasn't previously rooted and I had already did the OTA etc so couldn't root. I notice they updated me to 2.3.3 stock. Before I do anything this time around I would like to root my phone before putting data back. Is it as simple as following these steps? Im on Bells network. Also where is it I find the radio version??
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Yours will be a bit different. Since you're already on 2.3, you'll have to downgrade in order to root. There are some guides being created currently that you can follow. its been discussed in a few threads lately.
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Yours will be a bit different. Since you're already on 2.3, you'll have to downgrade in order to root. There are some guides being created currently that you can follow. its been discussed in a few threads lately.
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So do I need to wait for them to be finished or do they exist? I thought I saw something but dont see it anymore.
ChocBoyWonder said:
So do I need to wait for them to be finished or do they exist? I thought I saw something but dont see it anymore.
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These guides are finished, but I'm not sure how proven they are.