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What to do, what to do....

Hey guys,
I have really been reading and learning alot since rooting my phone and flashing the MoDaCo rom. Im tempted to go back to RUU get the update and try to root again but I think its smarter for me to just wait on a updated MoDaCo ROM with the update in it. But I have a couple questions I hope someone can answer just in general.
1. Would going back to RUU to get the update, re-rooting and re-flashing MoDaCo hurt my app2SD that is already set up? Meaning I would have to re format the SD and apply all my apps back after im done.
2. Is it possible to go back to RUU, get the update, re-root and re-flash the MoDaCo ROM and not have any issues afterwards, and still have the update?
3. Whats the major benefit of updating at all. I mean after root and MoDaCo ROM, im having no issues with my phone whatsoever. But seems like everyone is updating so am I missing something key that my hero needs to have?
Thanks in advance for any answers. Im loving this android stuff. I can see myself learning alot from all of you.

swaze said:
Hey guys,
I have really been reading and learning alot since rooting my phone and flashing the MoDaCo rom. Im tempted to go back to RUU get the update and try to root again but I think its smarter for me to just wait on a updated MoDaCo ROM with the update in it. But I have a couple questions I hope someone can answer just in general.
1. Would going back to RUU to get the update, re-rooting and re-flashing MoDaCo hurt my app2SD that is already set up? Meaning I would have to re format the SD and apply all my apps back after im done.
2. Is it possible to go back to RUU, get the update, re-root and re-flash the MoDaCo ROM and not have any issues afterwards, and still have the update?
3. Whats the major benefit of updating at all. I mean after root and MoDaCo ROM, im having no issues with my phone whatsoever. But seems like everyone is updating so am I missing something key that my hero needs to have?
Thanks in advance for any answers. Im loving this android stuff. I can see myself learning alot from all of you.
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This is basically the same situation I am in. I reflashed MoDaCo not realizing that it resets the software version back to 1.29.651.1, so there's really no point to updating in the first place if you want to run the Current 1.1 MoDaCo ROM, which also breaks the Voicemail app. If I were you, or if I hadn't already gone through the process, I'd just wait for the updated MoDaCo ROM that includes the Sprint Maint Rel update. I think he said he'd probably have it ready by the weekend or Monday (11/23). Right now I'm not sure if I'll keep what I have for a few days until the patched ROM is ready, or restore the nandroid backup I made right after applying the Sprint upgrade and rooting, or go back to stock again and not apply the update and reinstall MoDaCo 1.1.

Gambit727 said:
This is basically the same situation I am in. I reflashed MoDaCo not realizing that it resets the software version back to 1.29.651.1, so there's really no point to updating in the first place if you want to run the Current 1.1 MoDaCo ROM, which also breaks the Voicemail app. If I were you, or if I hadn't already gone through the process, I'd just wait for the updated MoDaCo ROM that includes the Sprint Maint Rel update. I think he said he'd probably have it ready by the weekend or Monday (11/23). Right now I'm not sure if I'll keep what I have for a few days until the patched ROM is ready, or restore the nandroid backup I made right after applying the Sprint upgrade and rooting, or go back to stock again and not apply the update and reinstall MoDaCo 1.1.
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What do you mean break the voicemail app? I don't think I am having any issues with my voicemail. Can you tell me what that is you are referring to?
BTW, if you do decide to nandroid and root, will you just not flash a new ROM or use the stock ROM instead?? My main reason for using MoDaCo's ROM was for app2SD, i definately don't want to go back to apps on the internal memory now.

The benefits of root?

I have a new Sprint HTC Hero and was wondering what I would benefit from rooting my new phone.

everything
pretty much anything you would like.
one of my favorite functions is WIFI tether for my laptop and iTouch.
another cool feature is the latest "Fresh" rom. which is currently 1.1
its much faster than the stock sprint rom. plus its pretty!
P.S. and if you ever want to go back to stock you can do that as well!

if nothing else
I rooted my phone for this one reason. I wanted to be able to do back ups of my entire system that way if anything happened, then I didnt have to spend hours redoing everything. eventually though I have become a flash addict. I run fresh 1.1 for my daily rom and I play with AOSP 1.6 and flipzmod and companys 2.1 beta at night. all 3 are great but fresh 1.1 is the most stable

wtphoto said:
I rooted my phone for this one reason. I wanted to be able to do back ups of my entire system that way if anything happened, then I didnt have to spend hours redoing everything. eventually though I have become a flash addict. I run fresh 1.1 for my daily rom and I play with AOSP 1.6 and flipzmod and companys 2.1 beta at night. all 3 are great but fresh 1.1 is the most stable
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very well put, i forgot about mr nandroid!

Thanks for the info. I have just one more question. If I root my phone can I just update it to software version 2.1 when Sprint releases it in the very near future, or will I need to wait for some kind of release from this site?
Thanks.

you'll most likely need to update using a rom from this site. The good thing is, that there will be a release here of it within 24-48 hours.

obelisk79 said:
you'll most likely need to update using a rom from this site. The good thing is, that there will be a release here of it within 24-48 hours.
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Why is that? Why can't he flash to an official rom then update?

Well actually you can go ahead and get the 2.1 update from sprint when it's released, that will undo root though, and since no one has seen it re-obtaining root would take a while for someone to figure out again. That and the 2.1 will probably be available here in leaked form before sprint releases it anyway at least all my windows mobile phones saw leaks on XDA before the carrier. Root is good and should be worth it if you are the kind of guy that likes playing with their tech instead of just using it, otherwise you may be getting yourself into more than you're willing to put up with longterm.

If he flashes the official 2.1 rom when it is released, it is very likely that will invalidate current methods to root the cdma hero. Then you'll have to wait for a new root method to be found. It is also very possible/likely that upgrading to 2.1 via the official RUU once released will make it impossible to flash the 1.5 based RUU's to regain root.
So effectively he could update but would lose the capability to root the device and all of the resulting benefits it offers until a new root method is discovered.
Edit: thezero4 beat me to it, and is also very correct.

my bad wrong thread

Thanks for all of your input and information. It was very helpful and my phone is now rooted and running the fresh rom. Awesome.
I'm still new to this.
How do you backup your phone.
How would you put everything back to stock if needed.
Thanks so much for any help.

schultzy001 said:
Thanks for all of your input and information. It was very helpful and my phone is now rooted and running the fresh rom. Awesome.
I'm still new to this.
How do you backup your phone.
How would you put everything back to stock if needed.
Thanks so much for any help.
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to perform a nandroid backup there are 2 options. you can either use the fresh pre-kitchen and perform your backups and restores from you comp or you can boot into recovery and go to backup/restore and then go to nandroid backup (this is also how you would restore any of your back ups).
as far as returning to stock. If you didn't make a backup before you flashed fresh then you need to download the stock RUU file here.
BTW help support flipz and what he does for us, visit his site and click on the adds.

Full Revert from DamageControl2.0

I'm looking to root and flash my Hero to DamageControl 2.0, but has anyone successfully restored the device back to factory defaults after flashing to DC2.0?

You have to use either Sprint 1.29 RUU or Fresh's 1.56 RUU. That will make it stock again.

jdgiotta said:
I'm looking to root and flash my Hero to DamageControl 2.0, but has anyone successfully restored the device back to factory defaults after flashing to DC2.0?
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Yeah I believe I used the 1.29 RUU from the stock rom

jdgiotta said:
I'm looking to root and flash my Hero to DamageControl 2.0, but has anyone successfully restored the device back to factory defaults after flashing to DC2.0?
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I used 1.56 RUU and went back to stock. Worked fine on mine w/ stock radio.

jdgiotta said:
I'm looking to root and flash my Hero to DamageControl 2.0, but has anyone successfully restored the device back to factory defaults after flashing to DC2.0?
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Some people do, and some don't. There is a fix if you brick it while RUUing. However if you are wanted to go back to stock for the 2.1 "official" release you might not be able to root again. They seem to leave the door open on the first round of software, but then close the hole on the next round. Seems the case for every phone

So the ability to root maybe lost if I was to update to a "official" release. Hmm... okay, good to know. Thanks.

jdgiotta said:
So the ability to root maybe lost if I was to update to a "official" release. Hmm... okay, good to know. Thanks.
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Yea give it like 24 hours after the release, someone will do a nand dump, root it and post it on here. One thing I would reccomend people stay away from would be a new version of an RUU based off of 2.1, as that would put you up a **** creek if a root isn't found. I hear lots of problems trying to .29 RUU after a .56 RUU, I'm sure the same will be said for whatever the next version is.

jdgiotta said:
So the ability to root maybe lost if I was to update to a "official" release. Hmm... okay, good to know. Thanks.
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They may, or may not close the exploit that was found in 1.5 but if so it will only be a matter of time before some of these guys who are far more talented than I find a way to root 2.1, 1.5 was not rootable when it was released. Regardless the 2.1's you will see later today will be far superior to whatever sprint ends up releasing.

You should be able to RUU without any issues. However, you might still not be able to see protected apps in the market. I used the steps in this thread to fix that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605028

xanadu1979 said:
You should be able to RUU without any issues. However, you might still not be able to see protected apps in the market. I used the steps in this thread to fix that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605028
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This fix didn't work for me, however I was able to RUU, update to DamageControl 1.0, download some protected apps, and then upgrade to DC2.0r2 (without wiping between DC1 and DC2). This opened up protected apps and solved the black on black contact problem for me.
-obviously do so at your own risk and all-

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Some people do, and some don't. There is a fix if you brick it while RUUing. However if you are wanted to go back to stock for the 2.1 "official" release you might not be able to root again. They seem to leave the door open on the first round of software, but then close the hole on the next round. Seems the case for every phone
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Speaking of this, I am currently rooted, but running stock 1.5(don't ask)will I still be able to get the update or do I have to be completely unrooted to do so!
Also as far as the update is concerned, I know on the droid forums there were instructions on saving the update before installation so all could get it! What is the procedure for doing so!
It seems with the current state of affairs the update could come in a minute or a day or a month, basically no one know, so it could be anytime, so I just wanna be prepared for when it drop to hand it off to the real DEV.!
Roman

Eh, you could go ahead and flash a new ROM right now if you want. A fix was found for people getting bricked from the RUU, so you're safe to use the RUU now without fear of having a permanent brick on your hands.

Roman G said:
Speaking of this, I am currently rooted, but running stock 1.5(don't ask)will I still be able to get the update or do I have to be completely unrooted to do so!
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Good question

AT&T Nexus One, FROYO!

For those who didn't dare to try... I got Froyo running on an AT&T version. All you need is to follow this guide: http://www.androidspin.com/2010/05/...-nexus-one-its-like-it-never-happened-almost/
Flash the ERD79 Release, update to EFE27. Then run the Froyo update through Stock recovery. 3G works fine, radio updated (I think?) and everything is fast.

thanks for your post. but the issue that most ATT N1 users are facing is updating to 2.2/Froyo from their non-rooted, bootloader-locked. devices.

vexingv said:
thanks for your post. but the issue that most ATT N1 users are facing is updating to 2.2/Froyo from their non-rooted, bootloader-locked. devices.
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I think that rooting and unlocking the bootloader it's the way to go now, since like everybody has done it.

poorg said:
I think that rooting and unlocking the bootloader it's the way to go now, since like everybody has done it.
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Translation:
"Everybody's doing it, come on. What are you, chicken?"
/peerpressure

I'm one that hasn't rooted, yet. Party due to my phone is less than two weeks old and I don't want to void the warranty just yet.

I just went from KangoRama to full wipe to Froyo...

Having owned several HTC phones, there's no way I'm voiding my warranty

Lot of trouble for nothing, if you are already rooted and have Amon's recovery. Just install Paul's Rooted Froyo and you've got the same thing, except with root.

rooting doesnt void hardware warranty
Experienced it

Froyo using AmonRa recovery - WORKS!
Followed some success off CM's forums in getting Froyo up and running on an AT&T N1. In fact it's been pretty error free (short of a couple apps not behaving with 2.2) and to top it off, no wipe needed.
Paul over on Modaco's site managed to pop up an image that is rooted and works with AmonRa's recovery. All I did was copy the zip to the SD card, ran recovery, flashed from SD, and voila! Froyo without having to painstakingly reinstall all my apps. No issues with 3G so far, but like all stock roms, there's no indication of running HSDPA unless you go into the about phone option in settings.
So far cooling off the hot day with some Froyo here.
Paul's Original Post on Modaco
Edit: And yes, if you didn't boot unlock your phone and want 2.2, then your only choice is waiting for the OTA to eventually hit you... when it goes public instead of press-only.

Are you able to view large images on your browser?
I know I'm not :S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687256

update
I followed the guide and went from erd79 to ere27 but when trying to update to froyo my N1 would not boot completely. Ran adb logcat and watched the log and it looped running the same stuff over and over again.

x986123 said:
For those who didn't dare to try... I got Froyo running on an AT&T version. All you need is to follow this guide: http://www.androidspin.com/2010/05/...-nexus-one-its-like-it-never-happened-almost/
Flash the ERD79 Release, update to EFE27. Then run the Froyo update through Stock recovery. 3G works fine, radio updated (I think?) and everything is fast.
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Yep, flashed the rooted version of FroYo, works great. Love it!!

Bought N1 on eBay - how to "unroot?"

Yes, I know. Why do I want to unroot? Well, the AT&T Nexus One is stuck on 2.1 update 1 and the baseband of the phone is unlocked.
How can I return to bone stock so that I receive all OTA updates. I'm good with what google pushes out and really don't want to fool with homebaked updates.
Thanks!

Read my signature, follow "unroot/restore" guide.
Your bootloader has been unlocked, not baseband. So follow the guide for unlocked bootloader. Use FRG83G ROM straight from HTC.

Thanks. Doing this now.
Actually, do I just follow the "fastboot" method and that's it?

Yes. Having unlocked bootloader makes things easier...

Jack_R1 said:
Yes. Having unlocked bootloader makes things easier...
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How so? I'm not really certain I am good with the method in the FAQ. I'm not familiar with adb and fastboot. In fact, I have no idea how to do these methods.
I am googling and reading as much as I can, but it's a bit intimidating. Any video walkthrough or idiot proof document that shows exactly what to type, etc?
Sorry, I'm just not as into this as most here (but I'm very eager to learn).

ericshmerick said:
How so? I'm not really certain I am good with the method in the FAQ. I'm not familiar with adb and fastboot. In fact, I have no idea how to do these methods.
I am googling and reading as much as I can, but it's a bit intimidating. Any video walkthrough or idiot proof document that shows exactly what to type, etc?
Sorry, I'm just not as into this as most here (but I'm very eager to learn).
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Try and follow these instructions, I think it may be the easiest way for a beginner. It doesnt unlock boot loader but it roots your phone and gets 2.3 on it. Good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11087674#post11087674

arastamon said:
Try and follow these instructions, I think it may be the easiest way for a beginner. It doesnt unlock boot loader but it roots your phone and gets 2.3 on it. Good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11087674#post11087674
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Thanks.
The phone I have already has an unlocked boot loader (there is an "unlocked" lock image below the nexus image upon reboot).
I believe returning to stock is as easy as downloading a factory N1 image, re-naming it to update.zip (or is it passimg.zip?) and running it from the boot loader...right?
I'm actually afraid to do this for fear of bricking this thing. All I want to do is go to a stock version of Android from the current 2.1-update1 Build EPE54B rom that came with this N1 so I can OTA up to the current 2.2.2 (or whatever) official google version is out. I'd like to go OTA from here on out, which the phone will not do now (stuck on 2.1 and saying "your software is up to date").
Is it as easy as what I suggested or am I a mega-noob?

Sorry for giving you the wrong info, I miss read the thread. I havent ever unrooted would hate to give you the wrong advice on the proccess. Sorry Im not more help

Since you are rooted and nervous about bricking your phone you can do this.
Flash a custom recovery if there is not one already on the phone via rom manager. Then in rom manager back up your rom (nandroid) . There is even a stock rom in rom manager that you can download and install all in rom manager. That will put the default recovery back as well. The phone will then the OTA's to the latest one.
Or you can just flash any other rom etc. It is really hard to actually brick the phone.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Thanks. Downloaded the Rom Manager, and guess what? The phone isn't rooted (I don't know anything about it .... just received it used from eBay).
The boot loader is definitely unlocked though and it's stuck on 2.1.
I will figure out the one-click root and go from there. Is that the best advice?

ericshmerick said:
Thanks. Downloaded the Rom Manager, and guess what? The phone isn't rooted (I don't know anything about it .... just received it used from eBay).
The boot loader is definitely unlocked though and it's stuck on 2.1.
I will figure out the one-click root and go from there. Is that the best advice?
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I would go that route if I was you. It is very quick and simple and noob friendly. You could also use the guides the other posters put up to learn some things as well.
Not sure why your phone is "stuck" at 2.1 in the first place. But yeah rooting/rom manager should do the trick quickly and easy.

Turns out I was able to install superuser, so it's rooted. Not sure why Rom manager complained about it not being rooted.
This is a pain in the ass so far. I will just try to flash to a ~light~ 2.3 ROM. Don't want a bunch of battery draining stuff. Recommendations?
Also, I still want to go to bone stock so I can get google OTAs. Oh well. Maybe I'll figure it out one day.

ericshmerick said:
Turns out I was able to install superuser, so it's rooted. Not sure why Rom manager complained about it not being rooted.
This is a pain in the ass so far. I will just try to flash to a ~light~ 2.3 ROM. Don't want a bunch of battery draining stuff. Recommendations?
Also, I still want to go to bone stock so I can get google OTAs. Oh well. Maybe I'll figure it out one day.
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The 2.3 ROMs aren't really "ready" yet, and I don't know if I would really recommend them to a new user. Very buggy. If you can get ROM Manager to work (which should be as easy as installing it from the Market if you have root), then go to "Download ROM" and find your way to CyanogenMod 6.1.1. It will ask you if you want to install gapps as well, and you should select yes.
Once a phone has been unlocked and had custom roms installed on it, there's no way to ever go back to completely stock with OTA updates unfortunately. CyanogenMod is probably the cleanest and most supported rom you can find, but another would be Enomther's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427).

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The 2.3 ROMs aren't really "ready" yet, and I don't know if I would really recommend them to a new user. Very buggy. If you can get ROM Manager to work (which should be as easy as installing it from the Market if you have root), then go to "Download ROM" and find your way to CyanogenMod 6.1.1. It will ask you if you want to install gapps as well, and you should select yes.
Once a phone has been unlocked and had custom roms installed on it, there's no way to ever go back to completely stock with OTA updates unfortunately. CyanogenMod is probably the cleanest and most supported rom you can find, but another would be Enomther's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427).
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Thanks. Well, I'm a total idiot. My passion.zip was passion.zip.zip. Nonetheless, the FAQ .zip original image file was "older than the currently installed version."
I'm done. I'm just going to play in the rooted 2.3 world. Currently downloading CyanogenMod's latest nightly for passion.
So, I am curious. Does this file I'm downloading update the radio and everything else? I'm certain the firmware versions for the radio, etc, are outdated.
Thanks.
EDIT: On second thought, is there a large reason not to go with a nightly? The latest stable version is two months old...I want clean and fast with minimal battery drain, etc.

You can always go back to stock and get the OTAs from Google. Only thing you can't do is relock the bootloader. ALWAYS can do it.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

ericshmerick said:
EDIT: On second thought, is there a large reason not to go with a nightly? The latest stable version is two months old...I want clean and fast with minimal battery drain, etc.
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The only reason not to go with the nightly build is stability. CM7 isn't ready for general use yet, and there are a lot of problems still. Last time I used it the phone app was almost completely unusable and would lock up whenever someone called. It doesn't hurt to try it out though. You can always flash something else if it's not stable enough for you.
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You can always go back to stock and get the OTAs from Google. Only thing you can't do is relock the bootloader. ALWAYS can do it.
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Nope, this isn't true. Once the signed boot loader is replaced, there's no more OTA's. You can get the notification that an update is available, but they wont install. Once the clockwork or ra_recovery are installed, OTAs will never work again. There is currently NO way to go back to 100% stock on a Nexus One.

Jesus. I'm going to jump off a bridge.
I successfully installed the STABLE CM6 update (radio update, google apps). My GD N1 keeps rebooting.
WHERE can I find a stable 2.2.2 or 2.2.1 stock ROM and end this madness. All I want to do is use this phone. It's currently possessed.
(I'm beginning to think it's defective...)

ericshmerick said:
Jesus. I'm going to jump off a bridge.
I successfully installed the STABLE CM6 update (radio update, google apps). My GD N1 keeps rebooting.
WHERE can I find a stable 2.2.2 or 2.2.1 stock ROM and end this madness. All I want to do is use this phone. It's currently possessed.
(I'm beginning to think it's defective...)
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its not defective and at this point its just a matter of time until you fix it.
If you still want to be stock, ignore below and follow the links to restoring the stock rom above.
a) do you have a custom recovery installed? (i.e a nice navigable menu) if not flash one from a terminal/shell (on your desktop) in fastboot mode (power+trackball to start the phone, choose fastboot)
b)since you dont have much to lose, wipe everything after rebooting into recovery mode.
c)flash any ROM that works with your phone. (the LCD nexus ones need a different version I think)

When you install a stock rom it overwrites the custom recovery everytime it boots. It always does this. The unlocked boot loader is irrelevant the OTA's.
He or anybody else can flash a stock rom and get the ota.
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ericshmerick said:
Jesus. I'm going to jump off a bridge.
I successfully installed the STABLE CM6 update (radio update, google apps). My GD N1 keeps rebooting.
WHERE can I find a stable 2.2.2 or 2.2.1 stock ROM and end this madness. All I want to do is use this phone. It's currently possessed.
(I'm beginning to think it's defective...)
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Try this: http://www.shipped-roms.com/downloa...le_WWE_2.16.1700.1_FRG33_MFG_Shipment_ROM.zip