So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
I think you mean HBOOT...
elborak said:
I think you mean HBOOT...
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Lol, any info?
2. Nothing important.
3. No.
4. It should, but I've never run CM6.
bradm23 said:
So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hyboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hyboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
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1. Bootloader.
2. none that I know of or noticed
3. No a nandroid does not change bootloader. You need a special img file to use in hboot to flash back to an older version and also need S-OFF (unrevoked forever) to do so
4. You should not have to update hboot to install any rom. The latest OTA works fine on any hboot I believe, I have hboot .79 on my phone. You don't need .92 for anything to work properly. CM6 will work fine with all hboots.
hyboot is far superior to hboot....... duh
borgey420 said:
hyboot is far superior to hboot....... duh
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Thanks for mocking me. Incredible does rom (the cm6 mash up) needs hboot. 92 A
Adrynalyne has a ROM (Fourth Wave) that needs .92 HBOOT as well. First mock is free.
yes .92 is the latest and it rules. lol.
apparently the new kernel source is picky about hboot for some reason.
there are some differences with .92 but who cares really. if you need it for the rom/kernel you want then flash it. plus you now will have the latest.
can someone post a link for the 92. HBOOT i have been looking for it to Flash please
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can someone post a link for the 92. HBOOT i have been looking for it to Flash please
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http://adrynalyne.us/
Would I upgrade this like I would with a radio?
Installed like a radio,ended up in the reboot loop in the boot loader. Had to access clock work recovery and do a nandroid backup.
now I have the latest version without any additional problems
I also got in to an hboot loop after updating to .92. I was able to get it running again by accessing Clockworkmod and doing an advanced restore of boot from my last nandroid backup.
I guess I just can't help but tinker with these things. One day it will catch up to me I guess.
FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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bradm23 said:
So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
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It does NOT require the new hboot
I've proven this because I have the stock hboot
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FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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Yeah, that didn't work for me. Flashed the new HBOOT, stuck in loop, pushed Kings #4 w/recovery, still stuck in HBOOT loop. Reflashed ROM w/o wipe, everything's back to normal.
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FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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LMFOL wish I new that yesterday. I about pooed on my self when I got the loop. It took me a few times before I could even get in to recovery. Then life was good again
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http://adrynalyne.us/
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Thanks for the link... anyone have a hashfile to compare the download to?
The .92 HBOOT has a larger partition size than the previous versions, so yes there is an advantage to the newest bootloader. Just be advised that flashing the .92 will result in your old backups (nandroids) to no longer work. You'll have to make new backups.
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Firstly, I tried to search but if this ends up simply rehashing another thread, mods please direct me to proper thread and delete this.
Now to my question. I am still running the base HBoot of my phone from the 1.56 RUU (I bought phone in December 2009). I'm rooted right now with that and using custom ROM/radio.
Now that the infamous 2.1 official RUU is out, would it be safe to up my phone to the root-included TEST RUU, RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.20.651.1_signed_test, and re-push flash_image or does it even really matter which hboot I'm running on (figure hboot is the only thing permanently stuck on phone from RUU)?
Or to put another way, do I gain anything from a higher-version hboot from the Test RUU other than it looking more like the official release so root isn't as obvious?
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This is sorta deprecated now that we have Root on the Release RUU, so repurposing the thread.
My new question: Now that i've rooted the Official Release version, can I restore my old nandroid backup without breaking my phone?
I did a nandroid backup of my fully-set-up Fresh 2.1.2 Install before I ran the Official RUU to 2.27.651.5 and now I'm wondering if it will break anything to "restore" that backup.
Again, any thoughts are welcome.
diaknia said:
Firstly, I tried to search but if this ends up simply rehashing another thread, mods please direct me to proper thread and delete this.
Now to my question. I am still running the base HBoot of my phone from the 1.56 RUU (I bought phone in December 2009). I'm rooted right now with that and using custom ROM/radio.
Now that the infamous 2.1 official RUU is out, would it be safe to up my phone to the root-included TEST RUU and re-push flash_image or does it even really matter which hboot I'm running on?
Or to put another way, do I gain anything from a higher-version hboot from the Test RUU other than it looking more like the official release so root isn't as obvious?
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to my knowledge if your hboot changes from 1.56 to the one from the official you will lose root as of now, the test RUU still has root but its super buggy, why would you want to flash the official or the test anyways, theres roms here that blow the stock ones out the water, but once again to my knowledge you WILL lose root. And the test ruu with root has mad issues you should do a search bro as far as upgrading to the newer hboot well im not sure if it has features but the devs are still trying to break root in the new hboot.
check this out bro just in case you already flashed it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693449&highlight=hboot
I have not yet flashed the Test RUU.
From what I understand the Test RUU still has su built in, so all I need to do is re-push flash_image to get a custom recovery back on it and I'm golden from there.
I don't plan on using the stock ROM that comes with the RUU more than I have to, just curious about installing custom ROMs from that base versus the 1.56 base.
I still plan on uploading flash_image and doing the custom ROMs and Radio like now.
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I have not yet flashed the Test RUU.
I don't plan on using the stock ROM that comes with the RUU more than I have to, just curious about installing custom ROMs from that base versus the 1.56 base.
I still plan on uploading flash_image and doing the custom ROMs and Radio like now.
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well from what i heard recently that base doesnt have audio issues that some people deal with on certain roms like the drivers are better, but my old hero i always had audios issues not with this refurb i dont get um anymore. but that 1.56 base is solid theres so much **** to work outta 2.1, until then im rocking darchdroid2.63 the only asop rom out there for our phones!
Im running Godspeed recovery, darchdroid2.63 and the latest 2.1 sprint radio and i cant complain
good to know
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well from what i heard recently that base doesnt have audio issues that some people deal with on certain roms like the drivers are better, but my old hero i always had audios issues not with this refurb i dont get um anymore. but that 1.56 base is solid theres so much **** to work outta 2.1, until then im rocking darchdroid2.63 the only asop rom out there for our phones!
Im running Godspeed recovery, darchdroid2.63 and the latest 2.1 sprint radio and i cant complain
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I've already had audio issues installing custom ROMs based on 2.20.651.1 Test while using the 1.56 base, yet Fresh 2.1.2 based on 2.27.651.5 has yet to glitch on me for audio *crosses fingers*.
I'd still prefer to run a 2.27.651.5-based ROM like Fresh 2.1.2 even after upgrading my HBoot to the one from the 2.20.651.1 Test RUU, if I do so.
Original point of my question was if there was anything buggy in the HBoot itself moving from 1.56 to 2.20 RUU. Correct me if I'm wrong but HBoot is really the only thing that can't be easily flashed. You can flash both ROMs and Radio.
Far as AOSP, it's cool and all, but call me crazy: I actually like Sense.
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I've already had audio issues installing custom ROMs based on 2.20.651.1 Test while using the 1.56 base, yet Fresh 2.1.2 based on 2.27.651.5 has yet to glitch on me for audio *crosses fingers*.
I'd still prefer to run a 2.27.651.5-based ROM like Fresh 2.1.2 even after upgrading my HBoot to the one from the 2.20.651.1 Test RUU, if I do so.
Original point of my question was if there was anything buggy in the HBoot itself moving from 1.56 to 2.20 RUU. Correct me if I'm wrong but HBoot is really the only thing that can't be easily flashed. You can flash both ROMs and Radio.
Far as AOSP, it's cool and all, but call me crazy: I actually like Sense.
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There is nothing wrong w/ the hboot. and the hboot isn't even the thing blocking root. The audio issue seems to differ from phone to phone, I have never had audio issues on my phone.
Thanks for the responses, regaw and dirky.
It looks like doesn't matter one way or another which base (rooted 1.56 or rooted 2.20) I use. I should have same functionality either way. I'm just gonna stick with 1.56. Really comes down to "if it ain't broke..."
On a side note.... i'm an eager follower of the official RUU ROOT thread on the dev sub-forum, Regaw, keep up the good work. Still feel bad for you that you've been stuck without root so long...
When you crack the thing, and I maintain hope you will, that's when I'll probly go and upgrade to the Release RUU.
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It looks like doesn't matter one way or another which base (rooted 1.56 or rooted 2.20) I use. I should have same functionality either way. I'm just gonna stick with 1.56. Really comes down to "if it ain't broke..."
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Basically this.
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Basically this.
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yeah ive yet to run into it but i hear hboots are *****es to downgrade, but yeah i guess you and i both learned something dude, im rollin with your last post, if it aint broke dont fix it lol
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yeah ive yet to run into it but i hear hboots are *****es to downgrade, but yeah i guess you and i both learned something dude, im rollin with your last post, if it aint broke dont fix it lol
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If you had run the test ruu and already pushed flash_image and custom recovery back to the phone then you can restore the original hboot in about 10 seconds if you want.
From recovery flash the .zip attached here and the hboot will revert to 1.41 instead of 1.47.
Cool, moot point now, though.
Now that the release version is rooted, I upgraded to the release RUU and re-rooted. Got Toast's OC recovery kernel rocking already.
Sorta off-topic, but I do have one small question:
I made a nandroid of my install of Fresh 2.1.2 before I upgraded. Would it be safe to restore that nandroid back now that i'm on the 2.27.651.5 RUU?
diaknia said:
Cool, moot point now, though.
Now that the release version is rooted, I upgraded to the release RUU and re-rooted. Got Toast's OC recovery kernel rocking already.
Sorta off-topic, but I do have one small question:
I made a nandroid of my install of Fresh 2.1.2 before I upgraded. Would it be safe to restore that nandroid back now that i'm on the 2.27.651.5 RUU?
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I am curious about this also. Currently running fresh 2.1.1 previously from a 1.5 root and was thinking about updating to the .5 ruu and doing the root and than restoring a nandroid
I just recieved my EVO and it currently is running build number 3.26.651.6 and I revieved an update notification for 3.29.651.5 and did not execute the update. I intend to Root my phone using unrevoked3 and want to know if I can upgrade it before rooting or need to update it first and then upgrade using a custom ROM. Your help is greatly appreciated....Chuck
If you plan on rooting your phone why even bother with the update. Just root and flash a rom based on the latest OTA. I don't have an answer if unrevoked works with the latest OTA.
Revoked definately works, cause I just got my Evo a few days ago, and did all updates. Now I'm rooted and running CM6.
Depends on if you want to install a different ROM or not. I'd say go for it, root, and then create a nand backup as your original.
I was in the exact same situation. I did the official OTA update so it would flash all the new radios, PRI, PRL, etc. Then ran Unrevoked and installed Amon's RA recovery, then ran Unrevoked Forever, and then flashed Fresh.
Is there an advantage to running Amon's RA? I can't find a tutorial on how to install that. I'm using Clockwork recovery, and I'm just not a fan... I hated it on my Hero! =)
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Is there an advantage to running Amon's RA? I can't find a tutorial on how to install that. I'm using Clockwork recovery, and I'm just not a fan... I hated it on my Hero! =)
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On Clockwork towards the bottom choose flash Alternative recovery and select.
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On Clockwork towards the bottom choose flash Alternative recovery and select.
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It wouldn't work. So I had to go old school, and flash the recovery image. Thanks so much, this is so much nicer!
Chuck, how's the progress?
You can also flash Amons RA when you run Unrevoked 3.21.
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Thanks
Thanks for all the help. I went ahead and rooted using unrevoked3 without updating. Worked great. Next I'll work on the update
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It wouldn't work. So I had to go old school, and flash the recovery image. Thanks so much, this is so much nicer!
Chuck, how's the progress?
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Just finished rooting without updating first. Unrevoked worked great. Work on how to update and flash ROMS next. Thanks for the help...Chuck
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Just finished rooting without updating first. Unrevoked worked great. Work on how to update and flash ROMS next. Thanks for the help...Chuck
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Oops.. guess I'm too late, but for anyone else wondering, I would say do all the updates up to 3.29 so everything is latest.. radios etc. Then root and make a nandroid. Now you have rooted 3.29 stock, which is a good place for first time rooters to start. Also this way you keep all your data if rooted stock is all you want.
All I am interested in is Wireless tethering on stock android. Is it possible to do the OTA update no that i am rooted and then root again using Unrevoked? Thanks for the help...Chuck
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All I am interested in is Wireless tethering on stock android. Is it possible to do the OTA update no that i am rooted and then root again using Unrevoked? Thanks for the help...Chuck
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Make a nandroid, then try and do the OTA. See what happens. If it goes through, you'll lose root, so just re-root and install wireless tether and you're done. If not, you'll have to grab a stock rooted rom and latest radios/wimax and flash them all, then add the wireless tether app.
I would have advised updating. It would get you the updated radio and wimax in a more proper fashion.
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I have a myTouch 4G that came with the ota on it, fully rooted now with s-off using gfree and visionary..is it really necessary to load the eng build on it? I'll still be able to load roms and stuff correct?
collins521 said:
I have a myTouch 4G that came with the ota on it, fully rooted now with s-off using gfree and visionary..is it really necessary to load the eng build on it? I'll still be able to load roms and stuff correct?
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you dont have to...but its highly recommended to load the eng hboot...its a little less prone to bricking and what not...the perma root thread talks about that pluses of using the eng hboot
but if you dont want to use it...you can still flash roms and stuff =)
Well honestly I'm coming from a G2 and the myTouch4G was the rom I used on my G2 the longest so chances are I won't be flashing right off hand but want to remove the bloat and didn't know if there was a true benefit to go ahead and flash the eng build or not
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Well honestly I'm coming from a G2 and the myTouch4G was the rom I used on my G2 the longest so chances are I won't be flashing right off hand but want to remove the bloat and didn't know if there was a true benefit to go ahead and flash the eng build or not
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I would also suggest flashing the Eng Hboot. It only takes a sec and it makes it less likely you could brick your phone. The people I have seen more issues out of are the people that havent flashed it.
Went ahead and flashed the eng build...I also went back to stock and redid gfree to get that patched file. Is there a way to theme the stock Rom with through uot kitchen? Just want to change my battery icon
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collins521 said:
Went ahead and flashed the eng build...I also went back to stock and redid gfree to get that patched file. Is there a way to theme the stock Rom with through uot kitchen? Just want to change my battery icon
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um have you tried this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852013
from the looks of it...some of those battery mods should work with stock rom
now you will have to flash with cwm 2.5.x.x in order to flash them or somewhere in that thread is a way to update the zip files so you can flash with 3.0.0.6 cwm
Hello, i just bought myTouch 4g and i'm a noob, could someone explain me how to install the Android 2.3 from zero?? I want the Nexus s version. Please!!!
ringox said:
Hello, i just bought myTouch 4g and i'm a noob, could someone explain me how to install the Android 2.3 from zero?? I want the Nexus s version. Please!!!
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1) root the device and turn s=off. Threads in the development section
2) visit the Cyanogen mod CM7 thread
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Root your phone via one of the many available methods although the gfree has seemed to have some issues. I'd recommend visionary method. Once you have root and have S-off install Rom manager via the market and flash clockwork (and correct me if I'm wrong as I get confused a lot with recoveries build #'s lol) mod recovery version 2.5.1.2, 3.0.0.5 or 3.0.0.6. 3.0.0.6 is the best available currently. After flashing clockwork in Rom manager (its the first thing that pops up) scroll to download Rom and download cyanogen mod 7 rc4 from that menu. (You will have finished downloading the rom and have booted into recovery by now) MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE PRECEDING. Then Wipe data and cache via recovery and then go to install zip via SD card then choose it again find the .zip file for cm7 and hit install. It WILL take awhile to install. After it finishes reboot. Again this will take awhile. Once it comes up, wait 3 minutes or so then reboot. Then set up and your good to go. Once you've done that its basically rinse repeat for other roms. But remember to read the roms flashing instructions before hand as it may have some wacky process for flashing. Good luck!
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Not to nitpick, but 3.0.2.4 is the latest version. It just came out the other day, so that's probably why you're not aware.
EDIT: To the OP, like neidlinger said, your first step is to root. This is the guide I followed and it works great: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021.
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Not to nitpick, but 3.0.2.4 is the latest version. It just came out the other day, so that's probably why you're not aware.
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I was aware just wasn't aware of the stability thanks for the heads up though!
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I was aware just wasn't aware of the stability thanks for the heads up though!
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I usually worry about the same thing with brand new releases. In this case, it seems to be good to go.
Thanks man if it looks good to you I'll probably flash it
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Thank you to all of you guys!! I'll try to do it this afternoon.
So I just need to follow this instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021 and find a good custom rom to install, right?? which kind of room do you recomind me, as I said I want the Nexus S apariance.
ringox said:
So I just need to follow this instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021 and find a good custom rom to install, right?? which kind of room do you recomind me, as I said I want the Nexus S apariance.
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Once you're finished with that tutorial, you'll be rooted and have a custom recovery installed. At that point, create a Nandroid backup, and then wipe all three items in the recovery menu and install the custom ROM. There is no direct Nexus S port to the MT4G, but CM7 and RoyalGinger are essentially the same thing, and in fact better, so check those out in the dev section.
I'm trying to unroot my phone so I can send it back in for a replacement but whenever I try to flash the PD15IMG in the bootloader it says the "Main version is older" and the update fails. I used the PD15IMG from the unlockr, but I guess I guess I need an updated one? Anyone know how I can fix this?
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I ended up figuring everything out. Here's the thread I made that explains everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356607
Tmobile doesnt look to see If your phone is rooted or Not. There only interested in the physical aspect of the device.
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I'm trying to unroot my phone so I can send it back in for a replacement but whenever I try to flash the PD15IMG in the bootloader it says the "Main version is older" and the update fails. I used the PD15IMG from the unlockr, but I guess I guess I need an updated one? Anyone know how I can fix this?
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you should have reverted back to the stock radio before flashing the stock PD15IMG...you could try flashing the newest updated RUU and then downgrade back to 2.2
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you should have reverted back to the stock radio before flashing the stock PD15IMG...you could try flashing the newest updated RUU and then downgrade back to 2.2
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alright so i tried flashing the stock radio, but now the bootloader says i have s-on? does this mean i'm not rooted anymore, even though i'm running a custom rom?
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alright so i tried flashing the stock radio, but now the bootloader says i have s-on? does this mean i'm not rooted anymore, even though i'm running a custom rom?
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I ran into the same problem as youre having when I tried to revert back to stock. flashed the stock PD15IMG in hboot, but was on an updated radio. you still have root access even tho it says s=on, but you can ONLY use the rom you were currently using when trying to go back to stock. (ex- if you were on Virtuous Unity v2.39 then you could only flash and use that rom) theres a thread that goes more into detail, heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092170 make sure you read the entire thread carefully
from what I understand, youll have to flash an updated RUU to fix the issue
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I ran into the same problem as youre having when I tried to revert back to stock. flashed the stock PD15IMG in hboot, but was on an updated radio. you still have root access even tho it says s=on, but you can ONLY use the rom you were currently using when trying to go back to stock. (ex- if you were on Virtuous Unity v2.39 then you could only flash and use that rom) theres a thread that goes more into detail, heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092170 make sure you read the entire thread carefully
from what I understand, youll have to flash an updated RUU to fix the issue
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Thanks for the link man, I should've searched before I posted. I read through the whole thing, and I'm still not sure what to do.. just a thought, but would this basically be like trying to root from the official 2.3.4 OTA?
And if there's an RUU for the GB OTA would that work in HBOOT, since it has the updated radio?
same thing happened to me, i have a glacier. (mytouch 4g) would appreciate any help. I was actually trying to restore to stock, unroot, and now i am s-on rooted
I got my problem resolved. If anyone has the same problem I made a thread about how to fix it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356607
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jberg22 said:
I got my problem resolved. If anyone has the same problem and wants to know how I fixed it feel free to PM me and I'll help out.
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heh sorry bro, been busy the past couple days. glad you got your phone fixed tho
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heh sorry bro, been busy the past couple days. glad you got your phone fixed tho
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Its all good haha I appreciate the help though. I had to figure out how to use adb to fix it, so at least I learned something new in the process.
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