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I know it's not a real 4g but t-mobile uses HSPA+ 21Mbps and sell it as a 4g.
And all I know is gsm version of sgs2 comes with HSPA+ 21Mbps.
So probably verizion version would be 3g but t-mobile version would be 4g out of the box? Just out of curiosity.
Frankly no one knows, just guessing and speculation now
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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Until someone has the production ready device in hand and can examine the hardware, or Samsung/VZW release the product specs, there is nothing definite. Even if one could get ahold of pre-release software/firmware, there would be nothing that confirm nothing, just show you want pre-production models are using. So, if you want to continue speculation, the SGS2 will show up and make you 3 square meals a day, clean your house, teleport you to work, and shoot out rainbows and unicorns when you're feeling blue. Until actual device specs come out, it's anyone's guess as to what the SGS2 will be like on VZW.
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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kpark67 said:
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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VZW wouldn't be releasing the same device as T-Mobile anyways, because of GSM vs. CDMA. So who's to say that VZW wouldn't put in an LTE radio in their version now? The 10.1 Tab will be LTE on VZW in July and has the same slim form factor. I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for the SGS II
You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec. So I just guess that would happen again for sgs2. Also samsung can put lte modem for function(verizon). But news release in Korea indicate samsung release first lte version of sgs2 for Korean market on september. Even if samsung could make lte version of sgs2 before september then what about the droid charge? if verizon release function with lte within a few months it's gonna go over $350 with 2 yr contract cause charge is $300.
Anyway it's gonna be very interesting.
I would think if anything, the Charge would drop in price and the SGS II would take it's place, price-wise
Yep. That would make sense.
l just hope it would stay within price range I can afford.
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You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec.
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ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
Google Samsung Function. There is a speculated spec sheet right on top. Also includes pics.
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landshark68 said:
ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
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There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
The Fascinate also came out nearly 2 months after T-Mobile's Vibrant. Long story short, what other carriers do or don't do is completely irrelevant to us.
As long as I remember all 4 variants of galaxy s fo US market have 512mb ram. What I remember is system info (quadrant) on captivate shows around 340mb something which is almost same as fascinate.
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Falcyn said:
There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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With the latest roms available I would easily be satisfied with the fascinate for another two years if only it had a little more ram. Ram is really my only complaint at all with this phone.
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At first I was thinking 3G since they couldn't fit an LTE radio. But they managed to squeeze one in the 8.6mm GTab 10.1, so maybe they can here too. Even if they have to make it 8.6mm thin, I won't care, it'll be an awesome device. Unless Verizon Bings this one.
It would be nice, but it would call for some heavy duty changes by Samsung engineering wise. Have you noticed the sheer size of the lte phones? The whole lte system doesn't have the whole system on a chip it and it requires two separate radios, which is why it allows talk and surfing. This would make the galaxy s2 pretty huge unless Samsung has created an lte system on a chip for this phone.
According to the leaked rumored spec sheet, 4G will be included. Here is the link below.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Function_id5535
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I think its unbelivable that here, in Europe, Motorola hasnt released yet update for our Xoom.
In USA its available 3.2, Acer released 3.1 weeks ago and My xoom still 3.0.1...
Please Euro developers make a rom 3.2 for 3g Euro Xoom
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I think its unbelivable that here, in Europe, Motorola hasnt released yet update for our Xoom.
In USA its available 3.2, Acer released 3.1 weeks ago and My xoom still 3.0.1...
Please Euro developers make a rom 3.2 for 3g Euro Xoom
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I can't help you with rom, but lets get the facts straight. Motorola has not released anything. The US Motorola Xoom is a Google Experience Device and Google has released the updates for it, they come directly from Google servers.
I would love a tablet with 3G, the only problem is that the US 3G Xoom isn't compatible with our networks here in Europe and that's why i have a WIFI only bought from US. I have looked at all 3G tablets in Europe and the only reason why i haven't bought one yet is that i don't want to wait for updates. Not one manufacturer is good at delivering updates... So i guess i have to wait for the next GED and hope it's compatible with our 3G networks.
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I can't help you with rom, but lets get the facts straight. Motorola has not released anything. The US Motorola Xoom is a Google Experience Device and Google has released the updates for it, they come directly from Google servers.
I would love a tablet with 3G, the only problem is that the US 3G Xoom isn't compatible with our networks here in Europe and that's why i have a WIFI only bought from US. I have looked at all 3G tablets in Europe and the only reason why i haven't bought one yet is that i don't want to wait for updates. Not one manufacturer is good at delivering updates... So i guess i have to wait for the next GED and hope it's compatible with our 3G networks.
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yes, but asus, acer released the upgrade; and acer and asus are not google experience...
European 3G version seems to be available in Germany and I'm thinking about ordering one... But I have some question before i order. I understand that the European 3G version comes with Touchwiz, is there a ROM without Touchwiz available for it? I have searched and read all the threads in development section but there is no mention about European 3G version.
Also i haven't seen any posts from European 3G owners. Why is that?
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European 3G version seems to be available in Germany and I'm thinking about ordering one... But I have some question before i order. I understand that the European 3G version comes with Touchwiz, is there a ROM without Touchwiz available for it? I have searched and read all the threads in development section but there is no mention about European 3G version.
Also i haven't seen any posts from European 3G owners. Why is that?
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I'm also looking for the same, but for reasons unknown to me there are no custom roms for the P7500, yet. Afaik, you could try to flash a P7510 rom, but you will loose 3g. My best guess is that the 3g roms will come when more users have bought them.
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yes mate.....european 3g version has TW preinstalled. got mine on friday in o2 store Dusseldorf(think i am first in my city). I have moto Xoom also but i like TW interface
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I ordered mine from cyberport.de, hope to receive it this weekend.
I like Xoom because it's pure Honeycomb, so I'm afraid I'm not going to like Touchwiz (white menus and gray bottom bar). Xoom 3.2 has been ported to Iconia A500, so i'm hoping it will be possible to port it to GT10.1 also...
Hi,
I am looking forward to buy a 3g galaxy tab, do you know if it has microsd slot?
Thank you
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Sorry, no SD card slot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (3G and Wifi), at least not for the model no. GT-P7500 or P7510. There are a few site still advertising the SD card slot but the Tabs are all missing that slot.
hmm the more i read about all those issues, the more i might just get an motorola xoom to have stock android...
1. it's not sure whether the I/O tab will keep getting stock android updates or not
2. i don't know if i will be able to flash stock i/o android on a german 3g galaxy tab
My only problem is that the xoom is just to heavy, especially since im going to read a lot of news/rss feeds on the tab, so having a light tab is very important...
Can anyone who bought the Galaxy Tab in Germany confirm if the language can be changed to English? Those HoneyComb tablets like the Transformer and Iconia i see in Saturn and MediaMarkt only have German.
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Sorry, no SD card slot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (3G and Wifi), at least not for the model no. GT-P7500 or P7510. There are a few site still advertising the SD card slot but the Tabs are all missing that slot.
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Thank you for your information, it is a pity.
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Shahpur.Azizpour said:
hmm the more i read about all those issues, the more i might just get an motorola xoom to have stock android...
1. it's not sure whether the I/O tab will keep getting stock android updates or not
2. i don't know if i will be able to flash stock i/o android on a german 3g galaxy tab
My only problem is that the xoom is just to heavy, especially since im going to read a lot of news/rss feeds on the tab, so having a light tab is very important...
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I'm sorry to say this, but if you want a 3G tabled then don't buy a Xoom. European Xoom's are not GED, so they don't get updates from Google. As far as i know, the European Xoom's still run 3.0.1.
If 3G isn't important to you, then you can buy a WIFI only Xoom and flash US software on it to make it GED.
I need a tablet with 3G connectivity, that's why i ordered a GT10.1
poisike said:
I'm sorry to say this, but if you want a 3G tabled then don't buy a Xoom. European Xoom's are not GED, so they don't get updates from Google. As far as i know, the European Xoom's still run 3.0.1.
If 3G isn't important to you, then you can buy a WIFI only Xoom and flash US software on it to make it GED.
I need a tablet with 3G connectivity, that's why i ordered a GT10.1
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oh thanks for the info. i wasn't aware of that. what a pity cause i can get a motorola xoom 3g with 32gb for 499 euros as im working in a telekom company.
but tmobile doesn't sell wifi only versions...well then i might also get an galaxy tab anyway, but still hope that we will be able to somehow flash the google i/o firmware on it....so if i understand correctly i should try to get a wifi only galaxy tab to make a GED?
kelvar said:
Can anyone who bought the Galaxy Tab in Germany confirm if the language can be changed to English? Those HoneyComb tablets like the Transformer and Iconia i see in Saturn and MediaMarkt only have German.
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Jup English UK and English US
Does anyone who's owning a 3g tab tell me if the tab has a full-sized or micro- sim slot please? I really wanna buy the 3g but I'm not sure if it has normal sim slot
Thanks for your reply
lojanguyen said:
Does anyone who's owning a 3g tab tell me if the tab has a full-sized or micro- sim slot please? I really wanna buy the 3g but I'm not sure if it has normal sim slot
Thanks for your reply
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Shahpur.Azizpour said:
oh thanks for the info. i wasn't aware of that. what a pity cause i can get a motorola xoom 3g with 32gb for 499 euros as im working in a telekom company.
but tmobile doesn't sell wifi only versions...well then i might also get an galaxy tab anyway, but still hope that we will be able to somehow flash the google i/o firmware on it....so if i understand correctly i should try to get a wifi only galaxy tab to make a GED?
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As far as i know, only US Xoom's are Google Experience Devices. It is possible to flash European WIFI only Xoom with official US Xoom software to make it GED. It's not possible with 3G Xoom because of different radios in EU and US versions. But there is a custom 3.2 ROM that reportedly works also on European 3G Xoom's, so thats a option.
About WIFI only GT10.1, as far as i know, even the IO version is not GED. If it was, then it would already have Android 3.2.
I See, so flashing the us Rom on a European xoom with 3g wouldn't work at all?
I wouldn't care if I lose the 3G, but since I can get the 3g version for the price of the regular WiFi only xoom, I might still get the 3G one (so I can sell it for more later).
poisike said:
As far as i know, only US Xoom's are Google Experience Devices. It is possible to flash European WIFI only Xoom with official US Xoom software to make it GED. It's not possible with 3G Xoom because of different radios in EU and US versions. But there is a custom 3.2 ROM that reportedly works also on European 3G Xoom's, so thats a option.
About WIFI only GT10.1, as far as i know, even the IO version is not GED. If it was, then it would already have Android 3.2.
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Shahpur.Azizpour said:
I See, so flashing the us Rom on a European xoom with 3g wouldn't work at all?
I wouldn't care if I lose the 3G, but since I can get the 3g version for the price of the regular WiFi only xoom, I might still get the 3G one (so I can sell it for more later).
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I'm not sure if it's possible to flash the official US 3G ROM on European 3G Xoom, i believe i have read that it will mess up the radio firmware.
But like i said, there is a custom 3.2 ROM available that works on European 3G Xoom.
Check Xoom development forums. Here it is a little off topic i think.
i'm looking for the Galaxy Note 4G LTE + NFC Version, when will it be released ? and where first ?
thanks guys
There is no release for that. LTE version will be released in Korea later this year and no NFC for Galaxy Note.
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ooh, will there be an unlocked SGN version that i can buy online ?
any release dates will be great to know, so i can made up my mind about buying this version or wait.
plus, dose anyone know the different between the current speed and the LTE speed, download and upload i mean
thanks a lot everyone
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There is no release for that. LTE version will be released in Korea later this year and no NFC for Galaxy Note.
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The SGS2 is 4G. Can you explain why the US carriers wouldn't have a 4G version of the Note?
I don't see that as realistic.
ZenInsight said:
The SGS2 is 4G. Can you explain why the US carriers wouldn't have a 4G version of the Note?
I don't see that as realistic.
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Let's put it this way. There has not been a LTE Galaxy note pass through the FCC. The only one that has, comes with hspa on ATT frequencies with no LTE. This means that it will be a minimum of a couple months if ever, that there is a LTE version of the Galaxy note that will work on the US LTE (Verizon or ATT) frequencies. It will have to pass through the FCC and then the cats out of the bag.
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Let's put it this way. There has not been a LTE Galaxy note pass through the FCC. The only one that has, comes with hspa on ATT frequencies with no LTE. This means that it will be a minimum of a couple months if ever, that there is a LTE version of the Galaxy note that will work on the US LTE (Verizon or ATT) frequencies. It will have to pass through the FCC and then the cats out of the bag.
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Good point. I hear that Att's HSPA+ is really fast though.
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Good point. I hear that Att's HSPA+ is really fast though.
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Well, it depends where you are. In Louisville, ATT is the slowest of the major carriers at around 3.5 mbps down and Verizon is the fastest with LTE pushing 12 mbps down.
I would go into an ATT store where you are and run the speedtest app on a phone labeled 4g (hspa+) and see what you get.
On 3rd Nov Samsung Galaxy Note London show they said there will be two version of Galaxy Note: LET and HSPA+. So, you have to choose one from them and there is no combination of LET/HSPA+ on a single phone. And, they never talk about NFC anywhere.
siamchen,
About your comment; I think it was a bit confusing comment on the London launch. It was stated that it was either a HSPA+ or LTE - but will both version have HSPA (the slow 3g)? I can't find that information anywhere. Anyone know?
drelle said:
siamchen,
About your comment; I think it was a bit confusing comment on the London launch. It was stated that it was either a HSPA+ or LTE - but will both version have HSPA (the slow 3g)? I can't find that information anywhere. Anyone know?
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I think both versions will have HSPA and what distinguish one from the other is the LTE
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Just wondering if anyone has the scoop on a possible US release for the wifi version?
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Just wondering if anyone has the scoop on a possible US release for the wifi version?
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Not too sure about that, but the Verizon LTE version has been confirmed... though I'd steer clear of that really...
The general idea seems to be that with the LTE version coming out in a few weeks, it will be a while.