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I apologize if this has already been asked. I *DID* search around this site, several others and even Google but no one seems to have posted a comparison of extended battery compatibility along with pros/cons of the expanded battery cover backing...
So, like everyone else, my Tilt doesn't last overnight w/o a recharge. In looking at my options for extended batteries, it looks like the largest are the Mugen 3000, the Seidio 3200 and the Mobi 3000.
I'm curious as to peoples opinions on these major points:
1-Duration coupled with whether the battery causes lock-ups/freezes or other errors for the phone...
2-How the revised back cover of the phone compares to the OEM cover with respect to the camera lens, speaker and GPS.
3-Cases and cradle chargers that will work w/ extended battery covers...
4-Tweaks or other hacks needed for the Tilt to recognize the extended battery time.
Thanks everyone in advance!!
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Instead of other I think you should have put the option of " I dont know". I think people clicked for the sake of clicking to see the results quicker. My 2 cents.
extended battery
I have a Boxwave 2700 mah and a Seidio 1600 mah battery. The boxwave is from Taiwan with a humped back cover, so I can use my Seido holster, but will not fit in my cradle. Does fit into my Brodit car holder though, and the full backed extended battery cover will as well.
I cannot for the life of me get the correct battery reserve power reading correct. I have tried every tweak and twitch I have read and perused the registry for settings not mentioned elseware, as well as various 3rd party battery utilities, to no avail. Quite frustrating, as I can alarm on low battery, pull it out, put it back in and have 45-60% battery left on the meter. Don't know what else to do, as it does it with my 1600 and 2700 and did it with a "borrowed' Mugen 3000 for a test. Tried all the reccomendations of running it fully down and doing recharge, all that stuff, still wrong indicaitons of remaining power.
This is my greatest frustration right now with the Tilt I have and the other 8 I have bought for employees.
MWS
wow! im having the same problem!
got the mugen 3000 and the reading is always off!
I cant find any solutions!
I ordered the Seidio 3200 battery and tried charging it in my AT&T 8925 Tilt. I left it on charge until the light turn Green.
Starting using it and within 8 hours I was at LOW battery and system died. I removed the battery and put it back in and the battery indicated goes up to 73%.
What is the deal here. Is it my phone that does not understand that it has a larger battery or is it the battery. Since that time I have sent the battery and got a new one and the same thing.
Is there some software utility to tell the Pocket PC that it has a larger battery.
Confused....????...!!!!
Wow, so...
As I sit here perusing options for replacement Wizard and Kaiser batteries (my sister's phone and my own...) I suddenly fear the pointlessness of choosing an extended battery! Has any headway been made on these extended battery glitches in general?
Nope. The Tilt's hardware always expects the standard battery's capacity, and will turn off when that is reached even if the battery is actually twice the capacity and is still half full.
So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? Well, glad I read this thread, I won't waste my money.
Yep. However you can remove/reinsert the battery and have more running time again. But then in that case as you have to turn the device off and open the case anyway you're better off getting a 2nd standard battery and swapping it when it's empty. Saves you from having a Kaiser that's twice as thick for nothing.
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Well, I think one objective would be to try charging it as often as possible. It may be that if you plug it back into a charger, it will grant an extension of time. But in the event you are unable to charge it, you could simply remove and reinsert the battery to continue on. Has anyone tried this? I'm curious to know.
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
mileskb said:
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
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Take a read from my post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336896&page=2
Battery 2700mAh:
"Full discharge removed battery and replaced and gained 10% so not that much of a difference no where near 50%
So effectively i have 2435mAh battery & 10% reserve so still far better than a 1350mAh."
I wish aztilt would have posted which battery he/she has.
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I am one of those that is very happy with the extended battery because the duration from turn on to auto shut off by the phone is at least 3 hours longer than the OEM battery for my usage. I don't have to think about charging the battery or swapping the battery until I get home at night from work. And there is still the option of remove and reinstall the battery if I don't want to charge it right away. I rarely if never need to do the latter.
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If I could get 3 more hours before shut-down, that might be worth it. It would mean 90% of the time, I'd get 12 hours of use as long as I didn't need the GPS. It would have meant last week I would have not spent an extra 30 minutes on ice because the GPS quit with less than a mile to go, but I didn't know which way, and I had not way to charge it, so I spent an extra 45 minutes trying to find the highway home when it was time to leave. Just 3 extra hours would have been perfect.
I can't tell you how many times an extra 30 minutes even would have made all the difference in the world, and I really can't think of a time when I needed more than a couple hours.
I realize I'm playing to its weakness. I rarely use the phone itself, but I'm always in email, rss feeds, web browsing, listening to music and using the GPS.
If an extended battery will get me through a normal workday without having to rush home to charge it... That would make me a happy camper.
I have the Mugen 3000
I have the seidio 3200 and after i fully charged it for the first time use, I use it for like 12 hours of txt, calls, internet and normally at the end of the 12 hours i have about 20% of battery left. Just mainly depends on what ROM your using, what radio your using and what programs you have running. Just because 5 people have the same battery doesnt mean all 5 people use their phones for the same thing. Best thing i found is find the one with the highest battery life and go with it.
Anyone have any idea how good this extended battery is for the Tilt?
HTC Li-ion Extended Capacity Battery with Black Extended Battery Door
Product Details:
HTC Li-ion Extended Capacity Battery with Black Extended Battery Door:
The aftermarket AT&T Tilt li-ion battery includes a black extended battery door. This AT&T Tilt Battery requires two to three complete charge cycles to reach full performance and is rated at 2400 mAh. The AT&T Tilt Extended battery is the perfect extra or AT&T Tilt replacement battery.
Compatible with: HTC 8925 / AT&T Tilt / TyTN II / HTC Kaiser
Is this one good or does it have issues like the others that have been mentioned with the power readings?
Just curious cause could really use an extended battery and would like a reliable one, if there is any.
Thanks,
Flandrel
Tilt Extended Battery?
I have heard some mixed stories about some of the extended batteries from actualy users.
First looking at the 2800 size battery:
http://www.amazon.com/AT-Tilt-Elect...=wl_it_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
"This larger battery lasts about 1.5x longer, so around 15 hours (or more, I haven't let it drain completely, yet). This wasn't a huge increase, but it does let me use the phone for roughly a full work day. My usage includes push e-mail during the day, with numerous incoming and outgoing text messages, and maybe 30 minutes of talk time.
Charge time is excellent in my opinion, it took around two hours to charge the battery from 20% to 100%. "
Next I was looking at the 3200 size battery but couldn't understand why the price on these were so much higher than the 2800 for the little extra run time that you are getting.
http://www.amazon.com/Mugen-3000mAh...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
"PROS:
- the battery fits in the phone perfect
- the new back cover given is high quality, fits nicely, and looks great
- the new battery and back cover combo makes the phone thicker, obviously, but it is not over-bearing and easily noticable to others
CONS:
- just one, but it is a big one. so, the original battery is 1350mAh, right? well, that wasn't getting it done at all. we're talking 8-10 hours a charge with minimal phone calls. i do have exhange push email and another pop email that i am checking. that is most of the battery drain i imagine. fine, so i saw this and thought, "perfect, 3000mAh! this should get me a whole lot more time". well, as i finding out, not really. to be fair, i am getting more time. i would say 12, maybe 14 hours. a net gained of 4 hours. that seems strange to me for a battery that is 2.5 times as big. anyway, just want to give you a heads up so there isn't too much disappointment. PS - i did the whole "battery training" thing where i charge it all the way up, ran it all the way down....etc. 4 days in a row. "
So hope that helps...
I just hope this with an emergency charger, http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Charg...UTF8&coliid=IR8PJ5939FJ0L&colid=3UMYZBAJT4AYL
helps me get a full day with my unit...If this doesn't help I might consider the Iphone because I hear that is getting a full day of juice with one charged regular battery.
i was useing a 2400ma extended battery it worked good other than the door would catch on the part where the extended battery was sticking out pop the door off knock the battery out and turn off my phone. it was such a pain in the butt that i decided that i would rather charge my phone everyday than look in my holster to find my phone had been turned off for who knows how long. i was thinking about getting this battery though next time i feel like i have money to blow. http://www.amazon.com/1600mAh-Exten...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1226420513&sr=8-1
I bought the 2800 Mah battery. And it came with a ugly back door so i order the nice door that looks similar to the orignial cover. Well the 2800 works better and last longer. it mite last longer n better if you have a custom firmware. cuz im running the 6.1 n i heard the battery dies fast from it. But with the extended battery my phone dosent die fast.
I have just got a new battery from HongKong for my HD.
It is 1500 mAh and they claim 50-80% longer use after 2 or 3 charge cycles.
it is an X level High Capacity made by Momax, a very large company making batteries for many companies. Comes in full retail blister pack and is specific for the HD. I have used a normal Momax before but not the X Level, will report after a few days use.
Cost me USD $20 from Ebay about £13. ordered on 21st December and arrived today. Ebay seller is eshopmomax. their web site is www.shop.momax.net, included was a discount voucher for HKD $17 off my next purchase before Dec 2009..
oooh, sounds nice! Will eagerly look forward to your next post on this.
I wonder how much they pay for advertisement on this forums
kjt57 said:
I have just got a new battery from HongKong for my HD.
It is 1500 mAh and they claim 50-80% longer use after 2 or 3 charge cycles.
it is an X level High Capacity made by Momax, a very large company making batteries for many companies. Comes in full retail blister pack and is specific for the HD. I have used a normal Momax before but not the X Level, will report after a few days use.
Cost me USD $20 from Ebay about £13. ordered on 21st December and arrived today. Ebay seller is eshopmomax. their web site is www.shop.momax.net, included was a discount voucher for HKD $17 off my next purchase before Dec 2009..
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Sorry but you will not get anywhere neat 50% improvement.At most you will get about 12% improvement going from 1350 to 1500. Claiming that the capacity will increase from 1500 to over 2000mah in several charges is very odd. Why not advertise it as a 2000mah battery - simply because it cant.
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I wonder how much they pay for advertisement on this forums
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I assumed this was a forum to share information with others. I only wrote what I thought would be of interest. If I have this wrong, my apologies, I will not bother in the future and no I am not paid by them. I just quoted information from their advert.
kjt57 said:
I assumed this was a forum to share information with others. I only wrote what I thought would be of interest. If I have this wrong, my apologies, I will not bother in the future and no I am not paid by them. I just quoted information from their advert.
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You don't need to apologize, friend. Keep telling us about your experience with this battery. I'm interested.
Thank you for your information. Dont bother with some people who made perhaps bad experience.
Really interesting site, interesting stuff and amazing shipping costs.
I'm insterrested too to know if there is really a difference. I'm a very big user of the PDA and my battery is empty in 10 hours
Yep,
Here too. I have to re-charge every evening/night.
Momax just got a new customer...
I'm interested too in knowing the performance of the high capacity battery after say 1 month. I ordered an after market one before but it became useless quite quickly. So this time, I ordered two original battery manufactured by HTC. I have the spare with me so that I need not stinge in the usage.
Interested as well... because after a month somehow my normal battery lasts somewhat more than half a day, even with medium-low phone usage (no Bt, wifi or data)
So, if this is the standard of the proper HTC battery, i'm more than interested maybe in a better quality and even aftermarket higher capacity battery.
Keep us posted on your experience (shipping, battery life etc...)
Update: Just ordered a battery, charger and silicon case for <40 Euro inc. shipping... might as well try myself
Every night?????
It sounds me terrific.
Me, in your shoes, should review my connection settings. Possibly, someone is connecting unceasingly and draining your battery.
Three days ago, I travel Pamplona to Malaga (near 1000 Km.), using GPS, phone, mp3, ebook reading, data connecting...
Yesterday I have returned, and, yes, I must to re-charging (7 %). Two complete days of intense use.
Think deeply who's eating your power, mate.
Regards.
Nacho Garcia.
I too seem to be able to get two days of intense usage before battery runs out. HD really surprised me with its incredibly long battery life. I might not have bought the extra battery had I known that the battery is that good. However, with the extra battery, I start forming the habbit of letting it run to warning level before charging in order to prolong its life, and I carry the spare when I see that the remaining level is getting low.
eaglesteve said:
I too seem to be able to get two days of intense usage before battery runs out. HD really surprised me with its incredibly long battery life. I might not have bought the extra battery had I known that the battery is that good. However, with the extra battery, I start forming the habbit of letting it run to warning level before charging in order to prolong its life, and I carry the spare when I see that the remaining level is getting low.
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With my standard battery I would take it off charge and with moderate use (2 or 3 calls and check emails every hour by the time I got home after 8 hours battery was on about 20-25% so had to charge every night. Put in the new battery about 10am Yesterday, again low/moderate use when I went to bed at 11pm it was on 30%. By the time I got up this morning it was flat. Dont know what is draining the power.....
just bought one from momax yesterday and paid via paypal, it´s already on the way, I´ve been mailed a tracking number. Very quick service
Among others, both wifi and dataconnections will sap power, but you might just have a bad battery. Using the tweaks found on this forum (read the wiki) there's an option to release the dataconnection if unused (just like the standard wifi option) which might help. Perhaps you could buy one of these high capacity ones seeing as they're not expensive (otherwise you wouldn't have the HD ) and see if it makes a difference?
I live in HK and I bought mine Momex weeks ago, however, it's slightly bigger than the original and the battery cover was popped out a little bit around the volume button..didn't use that thereafter.... just thinking to buy a spare original one when it comes out in HK.
hongkongtom said:
I live in HK and I bought mine Momex weeks ago, however, it's slightly bigger than the original and the battery cover was popped out a little bit around the volume button..
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Say WHAT!? Did anyone else get that too?
I've been looking around eBay and I came across the 3500 mAh battery for the Defy+.
Has anyone tried this, and if so, what are your opinions? 3500 mAh is a massive force of battery life, even though I am sure the parts are not that quality from looking at the 8~10$ average eBay price.
So should I get this battery to serve me as an extra/backup one?
It will be actually much much lower mah then its mentioned for 8$ believe me.
Mavasilisk said:
It will be actually much much lower mah then its mentioned for 8$ believe me.
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I understood that.
Anyway, where I can buy another decent battery for backup? ^^ I love my Defy+ and I'm going to stick to it for a while, better get myself another battery.
TheBirdOfHermes said:
I've been looking around eBay and I came across the 3500 mAh battery for the Defy+.
Has anyone tried this, and if so, what are your opinions? 3500 mAh is a massive force of battery life, even though I am sure the parts are not that quality from looking at the 8~10$ average eBay price.
So should I get this battery to serve me as an extra/backup one?
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I have one. Not sure about the total mAH but the battery seems at least better than my old stock battery. No one makes a good case for a Defy with the extended battery. I've resorted to running the phone naked. I might get some gaffers tape to add some protection.
Also keep in mind your water resistance goes away with the extended battery. Not a big deal if you are careful. The bigger battery combined with a battery saver to turn off data/wifi when screen is off allows the battery to easily last more than a day.
Edit: I changed back to my old OEM battery. The extra bulk made the phone too annoying to carry. There was extra battery life but the meter did not reflect the upgrade so it was hard to gauge. It's annoying to be running at 0-1% for a few hours because it could die anytime.
I've just popped in a mugen battery in my xl, I must say, its big and heavy,
if anyone is interested I can post some photo's and l'll update to let ou know how I get on, my primary reason for this was the difficulty of knowing if a battery is genuine, I've bought 4 cheap ones from china all stamped official but don't seem to match the original battery, all of them seem to last less than the original, although my original had double in physical size and would no longer fit in the case, so I thought i'd take a gamble on mugen, I would of bought a standard size one from them as I've found them to be good in the past.
so far all battery monitoring apps state the capacity as the same as the cheap ones and the original which makes me think they just list the spec for the phone and don't check, does anyone know if there is a battery app for windows phone that can correctly find the capacity?
I got the battery from amazon after contacting mugen asking if they can put it in stock on amazon as my only other option was to ship from USA which was coming to almost £100
I paid £62 delivered, if its ok to post links i'll post one to the thread.
This battery is making me consider getting a 950, it looks a lot more compact the extended one for that!
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only been using it 5 days, charged twice, both times had more than 30% left I just didn't want it to run out in the day.
Battery easily lasts 2 days usage but will need charging on the second night.
Phone hasn't crashed once since using this mugen battery, and this is during Britain's heatwave, haver taken around 70 photo's, usually it would of crashed at least once doing that sometimes every other photo, it still gets very hot but then I've only been using it so far in this hot weather.
I actually prefer the feel of the phone with this mugen case, feels a lot nicer to hold, its weighty but after a couple of days I got used to the weight and the feel and do prefer it, although I still think it looks silly, others have laughed at my brick phone but held it themselves and thought it felt nice, interestingly it seems to weigh about the same as a colleagues iPhone 7 big screen thingy which really surprised me.
Charging seems to take the same amount of time as the cheap ebay battery which I find most confusing
I've had some weird vibration noise when audio is active that seems to be from the case not fitting 100% perfect, I'm currently using the black one so, will try the white case in a couple of weeks and see if there is a difference, its very infrequent, and pressing the case together with the phone stops it which makes me think its not fitting 100% and causing a vibration.
Its a shame mugen don't make a standard sized 950xl battery, as at least you know it should be a quality product and it comes with a 12 month warranty which interestingly is double what the battery came with when new, at least in the UK the battery only has a 6 month warranty which makes me think Microsoft knew it was a weak point of the phone? although that's just me taking a stab in the dark and being bitter about having a naff battery in the phone.
Would I recommend this? Absolutely! but not if you care about your phones looks, if function is better than fashion buy one today, if fashion is more important, get a mozo and enjoy the QI charging which is something I do sorely miss.
After 3 days of regular usage I'm on 25% left, charged sat morning 100% at around 8 am now Monday night with 25% left, fantastic is all I can ?
this?
https://mugenbattery.com/shop/nokia...d-9300mah-battery-for-microsoft-lumia-950-xl/
is uuugly... my original 1,5 year battery still works good and hold 26 hours...
That's the one, I bought it in the UK 950XL Battery Amazon
Not gonna lie, it is ugly but after a few days it sits nice in the hand, if my original ms battery hadn't killed itself I probably wouldn't of looked at this, but there I something amazing about having a powerful smartphone with a battery life that can be measured in days, for me the non crashing of the phone is the biggest appeal
added 2 screenshots of my battery usage today, has the time at the top to indicate how much it used
GentlePhone said:
I've just popped in a mugen battery in my xl, I must say, its big and heavy,
if anyone is interested I can post some photo's and l'll update to let ou know how I get on, my primary reason for this was the difficulty of knowing if a battery is genuine.
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can u post some photos of how the device looks with the extended battery?
GentlePhone said:
That's the one, I bought it in the UK 950XL Battery Amazon
Not gonna lie, it is ugly but after a few days it sits nice in the hand, if my original ms battery hadn't killed itself I probably wouldn't of looked at this, but there I something amazing about having a powerful smartphone with a battery life that can be measured in days, for me the non crashing of the phone is the biggest appeal
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Hi, I'm also a Lumia 950XL owner and was considering about getting the same big 9300 mAh battery (as I think you have that one, am I correct? ).
But in the 2nd screenshot it shows you don't have Cell Coverage at all.
I've been having issues with crashes, random reboots, battery drain within 12hours, and loss of Cell Coverage a lot with my current original Microsoft battery that came with the phone when I got I about 3 years ago (end of 2015).
I've ordered a replacement battery (that they said was an original Microsoft battery) from a shop in The Netherlands, but when I got the battery, it didn't even last 8 hours after fully charging it. And after inspecting the said battery, I emailed the shop about concerns about authenticity , cause the casing of the battery was really **** (pardon my words). The bottom of the battery almost pealed of and the wrapping really didn't look at all like the original MS battery.
It's been some time since this post was last updated, so I was wondering if you were still using the Mugen Battery that you ordered with your Lumia 950XL .. . And ofcourse how it's been holding up after a year of usage?
Any advice is welcome,
The battery is holding up well, sadly, I have issues with the phone now, about 3 months ago there is something around the battery terminals that seems to be coming from inside the handset, for many months the phone was flawless, but I'm not sure if fluid has leaked out of the heat pipe now, is that even possible? when it gets very hot it freezes. Sadly I'm now on an android phone, but keep debating buying another 950 xl, the battery really helped keeping it. Easily 2 days even with heavy usage, I'm not sure why I had no cell at the time, generally it has excellent signal and didn't affect handset quality, biggest gripe was missing wireless charging, but then due to the size of the battery it wasn't so much of an issuse.
Off topic, but keeping the phone to use as a camera as clearly no android handset marches it yet, pixel is the closest after playing with so many, but considering its over twice what I paid for the 950xl I can't face buying it, the p20 Pro was very disappointing side by side comparison, again for the price disappointing.