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Running out of Memory. Suggestions?

After going download happy since release day of the MT4G, I've been running out of space to install apps =X.
[Gameloft games take a LOT of space]
I have a lot of games because my little cousins like playing with my phone. I already uninstalled the games and apps we don't use soooo
I was wondering if it's recommended to either move apps to SD Card, or use a script of some sort to install apps to ext.
I have a Patriot class 10 16 GB sd card.
Running nightly build 42.

Move everything you can to the SD card. Problem solved.
P.s. you have lots of stuff. Lol
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camalus said:
Move everything you can to the SD card. Problem solved.
P.s. you have lots of stuff. Lol
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Lol thanks. I was just curious if it was better to install it on ext partition or normal sd card partition
Yeah, my little cousins went crazy on downloading haha.
[Good thing they didn't download paid apps ]

Make sure you delete your text messages. Those add up really quick and are usually the culprit in not having enough memory.

haha i NEVER delete texts xD i 12,036 texts in total in my phone haha

kalel33 said:
Make sure you delete your text messages. Those add up really quick and are usually the culprit in not having enough memory.
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Alternatively you can back up your texts (if you need them) to the sd card using one of the many apps in the market. I like SMS backup & restore. You can back up the texts & then delete them from your internal memory to free up space. Common knowledge I know, but might help a noob somewhere...

get a bigger sd card and put all of your games on it.

[Q] Worried about the 320mb internal memory not being enough

Hi everybody
I have been looking for an Android smartphone with a decent Camera (as I love taking pictures) and it seems I have found it in the Arc.
But one thing worries me, which is the 320 mb of internal memory which I have doubts of not being enough for my Arc to be Smart enough.
Can anybody help on this plz.
Thank you in advance

I have installed all the apps i need (abt 20 apps) and still have abt 200mb left. Also, I move games to SD card.

it's enough i have 150Mb free with all my apps. this was a little issue with Nexus. I even move some system apps to SD with titanium backup (you need root).
right now i have 58 apps installed (excl. system apps) and still have 147MB free. I have 9 games (not big games just casual) biggest games is taptap but after moving to sd save a lot.

If you able to fill up 320mb apps, your arc will be slowest phone in the world.
Given app2sd, most of new version apps support usage of 32gb SD card.
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Thank you all
I am definitely going to have the Arc as soon as it is released here in the market (hopefully next week).
Thank you again

I have installed many apps (around 50 ~ 60) now still have 175MB.
Conditions: rooted the Arc, use Link2SD to move apps (cached, library, app) to your SD.
But you must get root to make 2nd ext2 partition and install Link2SD before can do this.

Can i move my apps on my sd card without rooting my phone?
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Retrosid said:
Can i move my apps on my sd card without rooting my phone?
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only some. There are a lot that still will not allow themselves to be moved to SD.
Rooting however can force them all over to SD with programs like Titanium backup which is mighty handy, particularly if you have a few gameloft games or big satnav apps

diggedy said:
only some. There are a lot that still will not allow themselves to be moved to SD.
Rooting however can force them all over to SD with programs like Titanium backup which is mighty handy, particularly if you have a few gameloft games or big satnav apps
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Mkay, though i dont want to root my phone yet.

SD card partitioning
Can anyone please advise on what is the right way to partition the SD card?
I've gotten a Sandisk Class4 16Gb; googled around and thought I should partition FAT32/ext3/Linux-swap. But after doing so, the phone cannot see the card anymore.

limhkc said:
Can anyone please advise on what is the right way to partition the SD card?
I've gotten a Sandisk Class4 16Gb; googled around and thought I should partition FAT32/ext3/Linux-swap. But after doing so, the phone cannot see the card anymore.
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Theres no need to partition it unless your using apps2sd (which I dont think you can do yet with the arc?)

diggedy said:
Theres no need to partition it unless your using apps2sd (which I dont think you can do yet with the arc?)
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I've rooted (using Gingerbreak) and installed apps2sd / link2sd. Basically my issue is the pathetic RAM available causing Arc to lag from time-to-time.
I've removed Telco's useless software and I'm still struggling with <100Mb available RAM all the time.

limhkc said:
I've rooted (using Gingerbreak) and installed apps2sd / link2sd. Basically my issue is the pathetic RAM available causing Arc to lag from time-to-time.
I've removed Telco's useless software and I'm still struggling with <100Mb available RAM all the time.
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You mean there's 100Mb wasted RAM sitting around doing nothing all the time? Oh no!
As for the partitioning, you have to do it in the right order or the phone wont find the card. First create an ext2 partition for apps, then format the remainder as FAT32. I dont recommend ext3 or ext4 for an SD card, theyre overkill for a simple single user system like a phone, and their fancy features will actually slow everything down on an SD card. You dont need a linux swap partition at all (IIRC this was only useful with early versions of some custom roms on other phones).
Note that i havent any experience with apps2sd on the arc, only on other phones, so everything i just said may be garbage w.r.t. the arc, but i think it probably applies whatever the phone.
Also note that using apps2sd wont help your ram 'issues' at all.

Moving apps to SD
You can move some apps to SD card in Settings > Applications > Manage Applications.
You can use apps like Apps2SD and ZDBox to automate much of the process.
If your device supports debugging in Settings > Applications > Development, enable debugging, install the Android SDK, go to the tools directory connect your device to the computer using USB, and execute this command:
Code:
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
This will allow you to move even more apps to SD, although there may be side-effects for some apps, like random crashes or failure to launch. If you see some app not working as anticipated, move it back to main memory.

To be honest i cant really see the need for the old style apps2sd these days, Androids built-in version seems to be sufficient to me.
While not all apps support it yet, the majority of the ones i've got installed seem to (particularly the larger ones, which is key), and the number is increasing all the time.
Maybe if you just *have* to install 200+ apps it will become a problem. I'm struggling to think of 200 useful apps though.

I have about 100+ apps. All the apps that CAN go on SD are on SD. I normally have about 70MB, but it fluctuates between 50~70

I've to install games and storybooks for my child, and these alone add up to about 50 apps. Some of them are not SD-friendly at all.
I certainly don't recall installing many apps, but Titanium Backup says I've some 306 elements.
Arc has only 335Mb available... why did SE take away the precious 177Mb away??

[Q] New Owner Confused About Games

I just got my Xperia Play today and I'm a little puzzled about some of these games. I see that my Nova 2 cannot be moved onto my SD card (or atleast that button is dimmed under "manage apps"), but it requires an almost 400 Mb download to play. If there is only 400 Mb of memory on the phone, how is this possible? And if most Play games require additional downloads but can't be moved onto my SD, does that mean you will only have a few games at a time? Sorry if it was posted elsewhere, I did try to look around but couldn't find them

Use adb to set the install location to sd then everything can go to sd card, but as it is now just the app will be installed on the phone memory then the additional download will be put on the sd card
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O I don't have adb yet... do I need to root my phone to use that? I recall it appeared when I put CM7 on my last phone. Thanks for clarifying that, all the games said they would download more stuff, didn't state where it would DL to, so I assumed it would go with the game

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O I don't have adb yet... do I need to root my phone to use that? I recall it appeared when I put CM7 on my last phone. Thanks for clarifying that, all the games said they would download more stuff, didn't state where it would DL to, so I assumed it would go with the game
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Excellent adb guide (no root required):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089282

HellRazor379 said:
I just got my Xperia Play today and I'm a little puzzled about some of these games. I see that my Nova 2 cannot be moved onto my SD card (or atleast that button is dimmed under "manage apps"), but it requires an almost 400 Mb download to play. If there is only 400 Mb of memory on the phone, how is this possible? And if most Play games require additional downloads but can't be moved onto my SD, does that mean you will only have a few games at a time? Sorry if it was posted elsewhere, I did try to look around but couldn't find them
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You do not need to move anything to download and store alot of games on your Xperia Play.
That would be stupid.
You download the apk, which gets stored on the phone. Its only a few mb. Then you download the game data which gets stored on your sd card.
The above users should of mentioned this before they sent you down a path of using commands to manually move things to the sd card.
I have about 9 large games on my phone at the moment and have around 155mb of free phone memory unused.
Also, the easiest way to move everything to the sd card is with titanium backup. Once you have rooted your phone, select batch move and it will automatically move everything you select to the sd card in one go.
Just as a tip, do not move wallpapers or clocks to your sd card. Your wallpaper and clock settings will get forgotten every time you plug your phone into your PC. (this is because your phone disconnects itself from the sd card so your pc can access it).

I think the biggest one ive seen so far is asphalt which takes up 30mb on the phones internal memory (after downloading the 400+mb to your sd).
But as dsswoosh has said if you root your phone you can use the free version of titanium backup to moves the games to the sd card. Now asphalt takes up less than 500kb rather than 30mb. Same with the other games once moved to the sd.
Games that are unable to be moved to the sd card normally such as nova and ashphalt can be moved once rooted.

Thank you all so much! Very useful, I think I was mainly just confused about where the game data was being downloaded to. With widgets and such having to stay on phone, plus the bloatware and programs that are phone only, 30 meg games still seemed pretty big so I was kind of worrying about space still, but after this thread I'm def going to root my phone. Thanks again!

I've got 21 games installed and a bunch of other apps and still got 240 mb of internal storage!
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Bloatware you can easily remove when rooted. and if you force all the installs to sd throug adb, you can keep up to 300MB internal storge
I have 303 free atm.
Only modern combat you should keep on the phone i think, i had it on sd for a week or 2 and suddenly it stopped working and no possible way to get it to work again only after factory reset.

[Q] apps2sd does not transfer the data?

I been moving large apps like Gameloft games to the SD card but I see that not much has changed to my internal storage. I think it only moves the app but not the data, can anyone confirm this?
Using i9500 xxubmea

Jason2k13 said:
I been moving large apps like Gameloft games to the SD card but I see that not much has changed to my internal storage. I think it only moves the app but not the data, can anyone confirm this?
Using i9500 xxubmea
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yes, only apps

You can use Link2Sd if your phone is rooted to move App Data to the external SD card.

lanka93 said:
You can use Link2Sd if your phone is rooted to move App Data to the external SD card.
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idk but link2sd usually fu** up device i used it and had to reset as phone wudnt install apps due to insufficient storage error
maybe use foldermount i knw its free version gives only 3 links but what to do try buying premium it only costs 1.99 dollars after all u payed a huge sum for the phone !!!!!

qazmed said:
idk but link2sd usually fu** up device i used it and had to reset as phone wudnt install apps due to insufficient storage error
maybe use foldermount i knw its free version gives only 3 links but what to do try buying premium it only costs 1.99 dollars after all u payed a huge sum for the phone !!!!!
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Sorry i meant foldermount. LOL I mixed up the 2 apps.
I actually bought the premium version about 4 weeks ago and it's worth it for the extra links imo.
I've used foldermount to put my data for Real Racing 3 onto my sd

So just moving the app itself and not the data, is still pretty much useless then? S4 will still have internal storage problems.

Yes but the way I see it, I throw all my media files (photos and videos), backups (titanium and twrp) on the external SD card. So that frees up space on the internal SD just for games alone. And because of my scepticism with external SD cards, i tend to back it up both on the cloud and computer hard drive. So although this may not be the answer you are looking for, it's the only way besides apps like folder mount!

Moving Games to Ext SD

My daughter installed all her games on the internal storage, now can't install additional games to it. I put in a 32 gb Micro SD but don't know how to move the games to the external storage, i found different move app 2 external apps but none of them work. Does anyone know how to move apps or I can install new games directly to the external SD ?

benzso63 said:
My daughter installed all her games on the internal storage, now can't install additional games to it. I put in a 32 gb Micro SD but don't know how to move the games to the external storage, i found different move app 2 external apps but none of them work. Does anyone know how to move apps or I can install new games directly to the external SD
maybe you can read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052290&page=274
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nakbaliNe said:
benzso63 said:
My daughter installed all her games on the internal storage, now can't install additional games to it. I put in a 32 gb Micro SD but don't know how to move the games to the external storage, i found different move app 2 external apps but none of them work. Does anyone know how to move apps or I can install new games directly to the external SD
maybe you can read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052290&page=274
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I've tried 4 apps so far on my tab 2. App2sd, Link2SD, GL to SD Directory Bind
the 1st 2 just did not work. GL to sd works but its limited (im using the free version). I have a lot of games, i do not have a count yet but at least 15. when im in GL to sd it only shows about 10 of them.... my number maybe off but nonetheless i cant move all my apps
i just recently (literally like 5 min ago) was able to get Directory Bind to work. This video helped a lot. Except he did not point out that when you start the app, in the bottom right hand corner the button needs to be on (minuscule but made the difference).
I hope this helps.
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Great thanks, I will give it a try.
toebertgg said:
nakbaliNe said:
I've tried 4 apps so far on my tab 2. App2sd, Link2SD, GL to SD Directory Bind
the 1st 2 just did not work. GL to sd works but its limited (im using the free version). I have a lot of games, i do not have a count yet but at least 15. when im in GL to sd it only shows about 10 of them.... my number maybe off but nonetheless i cant move all my apps
i just recently (literally like 5 min ago) was able to get Directory Bind to work. <a href"email archive">This video helped a lot</a>. Except he did not point out that when you start the app, in the bottom right hand corner the button needs to be on (minuscule but made the difference).
I hope this helps.
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Give FolderMount a try.