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Release date in the U.S

It seems like there are threads on release dates for many countries except the U.S! So this thread is for people with any information on the release date in the states. =)

I hear ya, I'm am so ready to buy this phone... now if t-mobile usa would speed up the process a bit I could quit driving my wife crazy surfing for anything related to the GS2

What we need to do is to create an online group for wives of phone addict xda members who can't stop researching new devices and roms. Then, they'll spend all day on that forum and won't notice we're ignoring them. My wife just doesn't understand that I NEED this phone on T-Mobile.

I hope you guys get it soon... just like us up north here in canada... but as for tmob getting it... the current international version doesn't have AWS support so that may hold it up a tad for them... just like WIND here... hope that doesn't burst a bubble... and if you already knew that... sorry!

This guy will do T-Mobile 3G, cough cough, 4G? It's a plus device?

It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.

I may have missed it, but is AT&T going to be getting this phone?
I keep hearing about tmobile but no AT&T talk. If not then i am going to be very very sad.

to my knowledge AT&T's bands are supported on the international version and as a result if carriers are smart and release the actual model and don't demand variants then you should be in the clear

clivo360 said:
It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.
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That's really ****ty if they hold it off till July considering the rest of the world get's it in about a week or two.

I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.

lemonyellowblack said:
I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.
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Indeed. I'm ready for one, NOW, to use with T-Mobile. Group buy, perhaps?

It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).

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It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).
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I'm almost positive the SGSII will be available on all carriers it's just a matter of timing on the release just like it's predecessor =).

Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May. Now how long into may or if it gets released is the question. Right now I'm looking to upgrade to a smartphone and grandfather in.
So far Galaxy S 2 is looking pretty sweet and I want it

Plave Oci said:
Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May....
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wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.

kreoXDA said:
wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.
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Well so far, all the phones on that list have been released at about the right time :O, so not really sure if it's april fools joke. The list had specific dates for all the other phones except for instance bionic/galaxy s 2, where it said "May" for their releases.
I'm hoping for the may release so I can get grandfathered in with the Galaxy s 2 !!!!!! *crosses fingers**

I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol

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I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol
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and that is exactly why I created that thread about SGS3, but people are just laughing there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049529
Since SGS2 may not even penetrate the market by the Fall of 2011, it is possible the US carriers will just skip SGS2 and go straight for SGS3.

I hope not because then we won't get the SGS2 this fall and will have to wait until February 2012 before the US carriers get around to destroying the device with useless and unwanted carrier changes and blotware and finally release the GS3 to NA that came out in the UK in September lol

I wish Samsung, HTC, Motorola and the other major players would just stand up to the US carriers and say "This device hits the market internationally in May you have until then to do what ever modifications you feel necessary and send the device to us to verify it meets our QA to ensure they don't cut corners to meet the deadline. If you don't have your modifications done by that time you have to release the device the way it was intended free of carrier modifications. If you don't comply with this then you won't get a flagship device that is required to meet your sales goal for the quarter and compete with other carriers that meet these requirements and have our flagship devices available"
How hard would that be, the carriers HAVE to have the newest flagship devices to complete in the high end market if the device manufactures would start throwing their weight around and refuse to release devices to the US market the carriers would have no choice but to back down. Sure that would mean an initial delay in the US for some devices while the carriers cry about not getting their way but eventually they would have no choice but to give in and then then the NA market not only gets all of our future devices in a reasonable time frame they aren't all ruined by the carriers petty attempt to stand out from each other. I don't know about anyone else but personally I would be willing to not have the SGS2 available if it meant I got the SGS3 when it was released in the UK free of carrier modifications and bloatware and that is ultimatly what this would come down to. The NA market misses a generation of top end devices but in return starting with the generation after that we don't have any more of this BS. I can suffer a little in the short term for a worth while long term reward. Plus I would bet money the smaller carriers who are trying to take a chunk out of the big guys market would love the chance to pick up flagship devices that the 3 major carriers missed out on because they wouldn't leave the device alone and just release it so it isn't like the devices would be totally unavailable you could still always get it from say Boost or T-Mobile who are more worried about customer satisfaction than adding bloatware and acting like a petty child who has to try and make his new toy "better" than the other kids or buy the international version and add it to a supported US network like many are doing with the SGS2

May 5th Samsung/AT&T Press Conference, Not For SGS2

If you didn't already hear, the press conference between AT&T and Samsung was not for the Galaxy S II. It was of course for the Infuse 4G. This will be the first of AT&T phones to be capable of up to 21Mbps, assuming you are in an area where the cell towers have fiber backhaul in place.
That being said, there is another press conference from Samsung(and Samsung alone, no carriers mentioned with it) that will take place May 24th. This is what people are presuming to be the Galaxy S II, and takes place exactly 11 months after the press conference for the original Galaxy S line.
Now, my question to all of you is, if you are in serious need of a phone, what do you think is the best choice to do in this situation? I have all lines available for an upgrade, starting tomorrow, as this will mark 11 months after, which makes me within 30 days of my 1 year mark of this contract, and the guy at the AT&T store said I can do the upgrade if I am within 30 days(I said that confusingly, but it made sense in my head, so I hope you all understood).
I am sitting here with a Motorola Backflip, the slowest and worst phone you could ever want. Okay not true, but I think I'd rather have a simpler phone with its own random OS that runs smoothly on it since it would be designed for it. So I want to get a new phone ASAP, but I really would like the Galaxy S II. Should I just go ahead and get the Infuse 4G since I am desperate? Or do you think it would be worth waiting for Galaxy S II? I have multiple upgrades, so I may just get the Infuse for now and still get Galaxy S II when it comes, but at that point I would have to pay for it. If I just wait for Galaxy S II, I won't have to pay, but I'd be without a good phone for a while, and it's already been long enough. I think that I may end up being fine with the Infuse, but the GSII seems so nice, I'm gonna want it anyway.
I'm kinda trying to save up my money, I get a couple hundred every two weeks, but I end up spending a lot, and a phone would cost me a whole paycheck.
Anyways what do you guys think on this whole situation, whether it's about the May 24th press conference, or what phone I should get, or whatever.

The infuse will be an afterthought. It runs 2.2... it'll have little dev support and tweaking/upgradability will be much less likely. Old hardware as well except for the screen and 4.5" is just too big imo.
Wait for the SGS2

if you look at the at&t facebook page..the 24th showcase may be for tablets..not sure if its for sg2. i have it marked down tho..but i would try out the infuse. you said you have multiple upgrades..so why not.

defnow said:
if you look at the at&t facebook page..the 24th showcase may be for tablets..not sure if its for sg2. i have it marked down tho..but i would try out the infuse. you said you have multiple upgrades..so why not.
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Yeah it's just if I wanna have to spend money or not cause if I just choose one then I personally don't have to pay anything.

See which upgrade on AT&T can be sold on ebay for max $ and use that $ to buy the SGS2.

Well if I buy one, then switch to another later, I will have to give the other one up for another person in my family.

jackleung said:
See which upgrade on AT&T can be sold on ebay for max $ and use that $ to buy the SGS2.
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That's exactly what I did. I bought an Atrix for $99 from Best Buy and sold it on eBay for $470. I used the profit to help me pay for my new S2!
Oh, and as a bonus since I had the unlimited data plan with my old 3GS the Best Buy rep called AT&T and asked them to keep me grandfathered on that plan. I thought that was pretty cool.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/06/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hands-on-2/
it might not be all doom and gloom. BGR got a gs2 to test out last night at the event

boondoc said:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/06/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hands-on-2/
it might not be all doom and gloom. BGR got a gs2 to test out last night at the event
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interesting
but I think they were just given a UK model to play with - in the limited shots I saw no ATT icons anywhere, no logo on the front and no physical customization to the design - all things AT&T LOVES to do and DOES in most cases

i'm starting to think you get off on being a negative nellie

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i'm starting to think you get off on being a negative nellie
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me? that is egregious, preposterous and outrageous. hope you meant someone else.

As to May 24 samsung announcement,I think that gs2,will be the U.S debut,and tmo gets our phone,if look through some forums the gs2 was be coming to tmo 1st anyway,ATT GOT INFUSE,WE GET THE BIG BANG.
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Actually the whole GS2 on T-mobile USA rumor started when t-mo accidentally responded to a tweet about the GS2 and they confused it for the GS 4G... they corrected themselves but the rumors had already spread.. I would love this device on T-mobile or Sprint.. but Sprint is just getting around to releasing the Nexus S 4G... not a bad phone but when it wasn't cutting edge when the original was announced last winter..

No mention of Tmobile

http://store.wirexgroup.com/default.aspx?page=item+detail&itemcode=SILGALAXYS2BK
For the "Samsung Galaxy S 2 Attain(at&t), Function(Verizon), and Within(Sprint)", but nothing about T-Mobile.
I suppose 1this could be 1 of many things, either T-mobile just hasn't come up with a name yet, that case is for some reason not allowed to mention the T-mobile version, the t-mobile version will be physically different, T-mobile isn't actually getting one, etc...
I wouldn't personally assume the last one, but it still makes it seem like anyone with T-mobile will be waiting the longest. It also goes to show we will probably not be getting one phone to rule them all and have to deal with different versions, then again maybe they will just each be individually branded but development can still span each one but I am not holding my breath.
I dunno, just didn't see this posted and was yelling "Noooooo!" at my laptop so I figured I would risk being an ass hat by posting this.

It's okay, I was thinking the same thing when I didn't see a post. Anyway, I think this and the postponement of the May 24th event in NYC was the last straw for me. It probably means that it'll be at least a month before any carrier gets the SGSII and I just can't wait that long. I'm probably going to get the Sensation and just find alternative apps to cover the crappy codec support if it actually has decent audio hardware.

it could just mean 3 to 6 more month before we get the Tmobile version
just like the Nexus S
Sprint took like 6 month after, before they got theirs, which was just released by the way

I'm on T-Mobile too, and I sure hope they release within the next month or so... I've been waiting since the MWC show and thought it would be sooner, but since this will be my first smart phone, so I guess patience is the word of the day.

Or maybe in anticipation of the merger, t-mobile just decided to let at&t release it
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nacron said:
Or maybe in anticipation of the merger, t-mobile just decided to let at&t release it
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No chance. That thing isn't happening for at least another year or so and hopefully, it might not even happen at all.

Maybe no S2 for now but TMO is releasing the Samsung "Hawk" on June 8.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/samsung-exhibit-4g-coming-to-t-mobile-on-june-8th/
This baby's rockin' a 1GHz Hummingbird, and 3MP camera on the back!

AllGamer said:
it could just mean 3 to 6 more month before we get the Tmobile version
just like the Nexus S
Sprint took like 6 month after, before they got theirs, which was just released by the way
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I dont know if I want to wait that long.... Its an amazing phone but they are less amazing 4 months after original launch as better phones start coming out...
I might have to lend toward the nexus 3 if its around then
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I'm waiting until the Sensation launches and if there's no solid launch date by then, that's it. My contract was over in February, I don't know why I still haven't jumped at getting a new phone yet and we're already in May.

AllGamer said:
it could just mean 3 to 6 more month before we get the Tmobile version
just like the Nexus S
Sprint took like 6 month after, before they got theirs, which was just released by the way
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by that time samsung will announce a new version of the phone. And then this same process starts again...!

If T-Mobile is delaying the release of the SGS2, they might as well skip it and be the first to release the SGS3.

Hopefully it just means the tmo version is slightly different and would require a different gel case. Samsung sold a **** tons of Vibrants so I hardly think tmo would skip out on this one. Does anyone know which carrier sold more sgs's? I tried searching for numbers but just keep coming up with overall sgs sales.

Virtue94 said:
No chance. That thing isn't happening for at least another year or so and hopefully, it might not even happen at all.
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Oh, it will happen. As a recent example, Google "Meredith Attwell Baker". :-( We get what we vote for

Chalup said:
Oh, it will happen. As a recent example, Google "Meredith Attwell Baker". :-( We get what we vote for
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Hold up, she doesn't just get to wave a finger and pass this merger based on her vote, does she?

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobiles-2011-roadmap-leaks-with-blackberry-tablets-and-android-galore/
No mention of a T-Mobile SGSII here. Does this mean that its really not happening? =(

http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new...to-t-mobile-carrying-a-1-2-ghz-dual-core-cpu/
Hercules anyone? 4.5 screen is sick, I'm kinda jealous.

maybe thats the alternative to the SGS2 for T-Mob.

Yeah but its coming out in September, much later than when the other SGSII variants are supposed to arrive on other carriers. I wish they just left it alone like what they did in the design of the Vibrant and released it during the summer.

They are gonna get it I read somewhere were this Guy was told by a Samsung Rep that they are getting it he also said that vibrant had best sales so there is no question that there getting it cuz there trying to make money duhh
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Jasonhunterx said:
They are gonna get it I read somewhere were this Guy was told by a Samsung Rep that they are getting it he also said that vibrant had best sales so there is no question that there getting it cuz there trying to make money duhh
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I hope you're right. All these recent stories about the SGSII not showing hints of a T-Mobile variant are really starting to make me wonder if all the waiting I did was for nothing.

Galaxy Note - Verizon Wireless!

Do you think it's possible we'll see the Galaxy Note released with Verizon wireless in the near future? Maybe Q1 ? I do not understand Verizon's business strategy behind this I hate it!

I'd like to be optimistic and say it will, but the odds are that it won't. The Note is a GSM device; Verizon would have to request a CDMA version, and I can't see the odds of that being too high in the near future.
The Galaxy SII got a CDMA variant, but only because it's Samsung's flagship device, and even that took approximately six months. The Note's size limits it to a more niche market.

No it is unlikely that you will see the Galaxy Note on the Verizon any time in the near future. They have plenty of new devices they've already launched along with the upcoming Galaxy Nexus to be thinking about launching the Galaxy Note as well right now.
Also, you shouldn't use an explanation point in your subject header when asking a question. It implies that your stating a fact about the Galaxy Note and Verizon Wireless and was the reason i even clicked the thread .

I don't see this coming out in the US at all anytime soon let alone Verizon

I am in agreement with the other postings, Both the Carriers and Samsung are really missing the boat not giving us this device before Christmas. More than likely it is all based on business modeling .........meaning........ we need to sell xxx-amt of the sgs2 or other phones then toss us this afterwards. I is rumored that we will see a USA version in Q1........ but with Samsung's record on meeting deadlines that could mean August.......

I cant for the life of me figure out why anyone would want this phone on a US carrier iteration with slower updates and paying more for your whole phone+plan combo on a contract...

SNiiPE_DoGG said:
I cant for the life of me figure out why anyone would want this phone on a US carrier iteration with slower updates and paying more for your whole phone+plan combo on a contract...
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Well, if you're not on AT&T you don't have a choice but to hope for a US version as imports won't work.

so what do you guys think, just go with nexus for now & wait for the g-note when it arrives? if it arrives.

Yes. If anything, you can sell your Nexus when the Note is released, if it is released at all.

Coming to AT&T, hopefully early next year. http://phandroid.com/2011/09/30/sam...sses-through-fcc-headed-to-the-north-america/

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Well, if you're not on AT&T you don't have a choice but to hope for a US version as imports won't work.
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Obviously you are correct,
but yet again I am quite confused as to why anyone would think that verizon would get an GSM only phone when they famously passed up on the GSII because they were getting the nexus.

Samsung Galaxy S 4G Gets Gingerbread Update Via Kies, Vibrant Still Doesn't!!!!!!!!!!

This just makes me angry. Galaxy S 4G is getting an update to Gingerbread via Kies:
WHERE IS OUR UPDATE??????????
Do you think this update will help Vibrant development at all? Maybe Gingerbread GPS drivers can be pulled from it and work on our phone? 911 calling issue fix?
"Beginning November 15, a software update will be available for the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. The update will upgrade the device to Android 2.3./Software version T959VUVKJ6.
Devices upgrading to Android 2.3./Software version T959VUVKJ6 will benefit from various improvements based on customer feedback.
Devices upgrading to T959VUVKJ6 will benefit from:
Android 2.3(Gingerbread)
Google Security Patch
Camera enhancements
Wi-Fi enhancements
Note: The upgrade to KJ6 is NOT required. You may opt out of the upgrade and continue using software version T959VUVKD1.
Important:
This upgrade will not be sent to devices Over the Air (OTA / FOTA) - Instead, you must install the upgrade by connecting your Galaxy S 4G to a PC using Samsung Kies Mini software. "
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1810

Yup. It pissed me off too when I read it. I'm hoping that we can benefit from this update. The more and more I look at it, it is starting to turn out that I might as well just pony up the cash for a SGSII.

at this point I don't care about an update, the only reason I would be interested would be to better my battery life on miui. Oh well I will my have my sgs2 next week.

Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
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Got a text today from T-Mobile, today marks 1 year of being a loyal customer. What a joke!! SGSII, I think I'll wait a coupla monthes, see what else they got.

dardani89 said:
Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
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EXACTLY what I was going to say! T-mobile smacks us Vibrant users hard, denying us gingerbread when other carriers are providing it to their Galaxy S customers, and our response is ... to buy a new, more expensive phone from T-mobile?
Not me. I would feel way too much like a $ucker. I'm not buying another phone from T-mobile. I'll go international on the SGS II or I won't go at all. And when my contract is up I'll remember how T-mobile snubbed their Vibrant customers.

To be fair Verizon is just as bad. It seems that the American mobile market is terrible compared to the international market. Say what you want about apple but at least they told the carriers to go shove a stick up their asses.
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There's a link in the update to a Mini Kies for Mac. Is that new?
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T-Mobile spit in our face they should at least allow us to get drivers
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dardani89 said:
Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
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i'm getting one for $300 new and if its not up to par, I will sell it and make a profit. I want a bigger screen, the phone is fast enough for anything I'll ever do. Also there will always be something better around the corner.

If a car manufacturer sold 2011 cars that got a certain mpg, and in 2012 they sell that same exact car but they tweaked the way the car's computer was programmed so it got a better gas mileage, would the car manufacturer offer to reprogram your car's computer for free? Nope. Customers would pay more money on gas for as long as they own that car. Funny how nobody complains about free car engine computer upgrades that are available to similar cars with identical engines and computers (when it hits them in the wallet!), but we cry because our cell phones aren't upgraded to an operating system that is only available on different phones with different processors.
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Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics.
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The Vibrant got one upgrade, from 2.1 to 2.2; if we are going to base our future expectations on the Vibrant's history, we should assume the SGSII will get one upgrade - probably to ICS.
Now back to your question: why get a SGSII? I think that for the most part people are first choosing T-Mobile, and second choosing the phones T-Mobile has to offer. For the most part the SGSII is 'better' than the Vibrant, that's why people are getting one. In a year there will be phones that are 'better' than the SGSII and people will buy those phones. That's why.
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To be fair Verizon is just as bad.
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ATT is bad too. Can anyone name an American carrier that is awesome at updating their phones? You can name some examples from a specific carrier, but that same carrier will have phones that they 'should have' upgraded but never did.

Guys, be patient and wait for Galaxy Nexus. You would never have to wait again )

CharlieBoy808 said:
Yup. It pissed me off too when I read it. I'm hoping that we can benefit from this update. The more and more I look at it, it is starting to turn out that I might as well just pony up the cash for a SGSII.
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Buying a SGS2 On T-Mobile would be the worst mistake you could ever make. Didn't you learn a lesson from the Vibrant fiasco?
HTC and Motorola have both made statements on ICS updates. Samsung USA has not said one thing about ICS update. SGS2 on T-mobile is different from all the other variants of SGS2. SGS2 on Vibrant internals are so different that it probably requires a bunch of unique drivers not common to the other SGS2 variants. Trust me don't but the SGS2. You will be lucky to get ICS and if you do it will probably come a year from now, by that time the next version of Android will be out and Samsung will have LONG FORGOTTEN SGS2 on T-Mobile. Don't make the same mistake TWICE.

dardani89 said:
Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
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Perfectly stated!

From a chat session with t-mobile support:
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You have been connected to ~Craig M.
Me: When will the Gingerbread update for the Vibrant be available?
~Craig M:* Welcome to T-Mobile live Chat. My name is Craig and I will be happy to assist you. For your reference my Rep ID is 1320828. Please give me a moment while I open your account.
Me:* Hi Craig. Thank you
Me:* I read this article today: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1810
~Craig M:* I have read your question and will be more than happy to assist you with your request. For the protection of your account, may I have the last four digits of your social please?
Me:* ####
Me:* I would like to know when a Gingerbread update for the original Samsung Vibrant will be available.
~Craig M:* As per the article, the update will start being sent out effective November 15th, however this is for the Galaxy S 4G, which is newer than the Samsung Vibrant.
Me:* Right, I understand that.
Me:* Seeing as Vibrant owners already feel somewhat ripped off by the Galaxy S 4G, I was just wondering if the release of GB for the GS4G had led to any new information on the future release of GB for the Vibrant.
~Craig M:* Unfortunately, we do not have any information regarding an update for the Vibrant.
Me:* Lovely. Well if you could please pass along my interest to whoever you can I would greatly appreciate it. Getting awfully tired of picking up Android phones from t-mobile that never get the upgrades that were originally promised.
~Craig M:* I can certainly pass that along. Did you have any other questions that I can answer for you today?
Me:* No that's all. Thank you for your time.

if you want updates, get a Nexus.
Just that simple.

We were promised an update to Froyo. It took a bit of pressure to even have that released, but we got it. We were never promised an update to Gingerbread, so they have no obligation to give us one. And it makes no financial sense for them anyway, which is what it really comes down to. I'm not saying I like it, that's just the way it is. We will not be getting an update to Gingerbread.

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If a car manufacturer sold 2011 cars that got a certain mpg, and in 2012 they sell that same exact car but they tweaked the way the car's computer was programmed so it got a better gas mileage, would the car manufacturer offer to reprogram your car's computer for free? Nope. Customers would pay more money on gas for as long as they own that car. Funny how nobody complains about free car engine computer upgrades that are available to similar cars with identical engines and computers (when it hits them in the wallet!), but we cry because our cell phones aren't upgraded to an operating system that is only available on different phones with different processors.
The Vibrant got one upgrade, from 2.1 to 2.2; if we are going to base our future expectations on the Vibrant's history, we should assume the SGSII will get one upgrade - probably to ICS.
ATT is bad too. Can anyone name an American carrier that is awesome at updating their phones? You can name some examples from a specific carrier, but that same carrier will have phones that they 'should have' upgraded but never did.
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You are missing a big point here. Sure, nice car analogy, but what if you have a Toyota and they don't update your gas mileage, but Ford does update a similar model car? Would you still be just as likely to buy a Toyota next time?
That's what we have here. I have a Droid X and a Vibrant (and a Galaxy S 4G for that matter). The Droid X and Vibrant came out virtually within days of each other. I've had official GB on my Droid X for months now. Vibrant will never get GB. The Droid X also had Froyo months before the Vibrant. Both phones were released with Eclair.
So, when I'm getting my next phone, I'm certainly going to factor that in. I know Motorola/Verizon will be more apt to update my phone as compared to Samsung/TMobile (personally, I put more of the blame on Samsung than TMobile, but that's debatable).
jneal9 said:
We were promised an update to Froyo. It took a bit of pressue to even have that released, but we got it. We were never promised an update to Gingerbread, so they have no obligation to give us one. And it makes no financial sense for them anyway, which is what it really comes down to.
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Not sure about that. Buy a Motorola/Verizon phone next time because you are more likely to get future updates and it does affect Samsung financially. I doubt that too many people will make that a big factor in their decision, but, over time, the bad reputation could start to have a deeper impact to Samsung's financials.
It all comes down to the finances. Motorola/Verizon bean counters calculated that the upgrade to GB made financial sense and Samsung/TMobile calculated that it didn't.

They're not giving us anymore updates. IMO this has been apparent for a long time. A $500 phone has pretty much become obsolete as far as TMob/Samsung are concerned. What I'm wondering is who's to blame? Did TMob drop the ball, or Samsung? Either way I'm leaving TMob, and won't be purchasing any more Samsung products. Screw 'em both. I will not spend hundreds on a new phone every year, which is exactly what they want.

Anyone interest in a Morotola, maybe take a glance and Motorola's Bootloader policy here http://blog.opticaldelusion.org/2010/08/clearly-you-have-no-idea-what-efuse-is.html and here http://www.droid-developers.org/wiki/Booting_chain.
Since XDA is abound with noobs and hackers, it should be known that the EFuse chip will not let you change your bootloader or run any type of FastBoot-OEM Unlock. Just letting you know it will trip the chip and brick instantly.
I came from a Motorola that was never scheduled to get a 2.2 update and we hacked it and created our own, but took some serious time and support, none of which came from Morotola or our carrier. In fact our carrier released their "official" version of 2.2 and when we broke it down, found our code in the libs, modules,...Since open source, what could we do?
Just an fyi to anyone that is wanting to move to a Motorola (albeit the Atrix boot unlock was leaked, but as far as I know, that is the only one in the whole Mfamily).