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2.2 delay. I wonder if..

In case you did not know T-Mobile and Orange have now combined which means we T-Mobile customers can now not only access the "3" network for data but the orange network also foe calls and texts. There are a couple of glitches though one being the need to have roaming turned on (don't get charged for this within the UK) and a couple of settings changed so we can receive picture messages.
So. I wonder if the T-Mobile delay is due to this and as they put out all networks at once whether this is affecting the other rollouts?
Just a theory.
Loving the extra coverage though. Never lose a signal now.

Yeah I'm with Orange and the coverage isn;t that great.
I believe for now the roaming only works on 2G so I hope you have your phone set to that, else it['s all in your mind
I doubt the delay has anything to do with Orange, it's much more likely a Samsung thing than an operator thing. At the end of the day the phone hasn't been that heavily modded by Orange, it's only installed a few apps.
Logicalstep

Logicalstep said:
Yeah I'm with Orange and the coverage isn;t that great.
I believe for now the roaming only works on 2G so I hope you have your phone set to that, else it['s all in your mind
I doubt the delay has anything to do with Orange, it's much more likely a Samsung thing than an operator thing. At the end of the day the phone hasn't been that heavily modded by Orange, it's only installed a few apps.
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As I said the Orange network is used for texts and calls so yes 2G. 3G comes from T-Mobile and the "3" network. So I get best of all worlds now.
I sent them a tweet and had a very encouraging reply.
T-Mobile UK Support TmobileUKhelp
Hi Roger, we should be getting this release very soon, we have been advised early October, the Orange merger has no bearing on this update.
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Looks like it will be soon Woohoo...

Wow! I sure hope this applies to all of us, from different countries and carriers...
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Eh, 2.2 hasn't even been released by Samsung yet so there's no way T-Mobile can 'delay' a release right now since it's not even out yet.
As far as I'm currently aware, the Froyo update has been pushed back to end October / beginning of November.
Since the update is going to be released through Kies there's nothing T-Mo can do to delay it unless they have a custom version of the 2.2 firmware they can keep back but I doubt they'll do that.
Besides that, it doesn't make any sense for them to hold the update back. They need to sort out a few things on their side of the network, it has hardly anything to do with the firmware. The only thing they might need to do is push new settings to customers but that can easily be done later without holding back the 2.2 upgrade.

Iy doesn't work like that in the UK. Samsung supply the build to the networks here for testing. They find bugs/problems/customisation glitches and send it back to Samsung for fixes. The cycle continues until all are satisfied.

Still, 2.2 is not out yet, Samsung doesn't even have an official unbranded build yet so there's no way on earth T-Mo UK can currently be delaying a branded the update.
As long as Samsung hasn't announced that there's a 2.2/Froyo update available, T-Mo will just have to wait like everyone else.

[Q] Officicial JI6 without T-mobile Contract?

I don't have a T-mobile contract for my Vibrant, so I will never get an OTA update. Is it technically possible for someone who has gotten the update to make it available for manual install?
If so, any good samaritan willing?

kmandel said:
I don't have a T-mobile contract for my Vibrant, so I will never get an OTA update. Is it technically possible for someone who has gotten the update to make it available for manual install?
If so, any good samaritan willing?
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But do you use T-Mobile service?

rbirg said:
But do you use T-Mobile service?
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I only do data over wifi. I do have a prepaid T-mobile voice sim in the Vibrant, that I moved from an old phone, and occasionally use for a voice call. However, I don't t think that will get me an update.

i'm in the same boat myself. i'm using prepaid for now until the $ runs out, and i'm going to join my family's family plan. would like to get this update if i could.

sorry misread... but yea no update threw wifi

so i should turn off my wi-fi and use 3G only to get the update?

You wont get OTA updates if you are not with TMO.
You will need to get it from KIES or from XDA or other sources.
As for the JI6 update:
samsungtweets
RT @GalaxySsupport JI6 OTA now released for Vibrant! Watch for msg on phone letting y know the update is ready! Thanks for your patience!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802240
This is from my thread.

You WILL get the update without a contract with T-Mobile. I'm on prepaid and got the OTA notice while I had wifi on.

I'm amazed. I did get the update.
I guess it was over wifi, since all I have in the phone is a prepaid t-mobile voice sim. I had a more+ account for a few days when I got the phone, but cancelled it immediately months ago, and never even put the data sim in the phone.

As pleased as I am to have gotten the update, I now wonder what the mechanism is.
If it's a clean push, why would T-mobile push to me. I don't have an account with them, other than the pay as you go voice sim from an old phone.
I'm thinking its a pull, and that the Vibrant calls home (at t-mobile) over wifi occasionally identifies itself by imei and rom version, and t-mobile sends back an update if its available and load permits.

Deadsilent14 said:
You WILL get the update without a contract with T-Mobile. I'm on prepaid and got the OTA notice while I had wifi on.
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what if it's not a t-mobile sim in the phone? Will I still get the update through wifi?

[Q] G2 OTA update.

i do know that there was a few people back a couple weeks ago that got a G2 update that included tethering and the WiFi calling. but when is there actually going to be one? maybe to fix some of the random bugs, such as adding a notification light and such. any ideas?

PatrickHuey said:
i do know that there was a few people back a couple weeks ago that got a G2 update that included tethering and the WiFi calling. but when is there actually going to be one? maybe to fix some of the random bugs, such as adding a notification light and such. any ideas?
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My guess is that it will most likely be november 3rd. I say that because if tmobile is going to charge $15 extra for native tethering, they are going to need to give phones that didn't have that feature out of the box ie. G2 I'm not saying that people will pay for it, but since the g2 technically doesn't have wifi tethering as a froyo 2.2 feature, they will probably send out the update to have that feature installed when they charge for tethering on november 3rd. But jes my opinion
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Tmobile is being greedy with their shiny new hspa
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Well, so far my impression of their HSPA is that it is garbage. Maybe it is the G2, maybe it is their network, maybe the combination of both. The phone is a dream on WiFi, but an 80% of the time a stuttering joke on their network. Not gonna pay them one cent more to hang my PC onto that crap.

mgmaz said:
Well, so far my impression of their HSPA is that it is garbage. Maybe it is the G2, maybe it is their network, maybe the combination of both. The phone is a dream on WiFi, but an 80% of the time a stuttering joke on their network. Not gonna pay them one cent more to hang my PC onto that crap.
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The G2 needs a radio update desperately. My myTouch 3G Slide was pretty bad before it got a radio update and then after that the phone was perfect. I was getting 6 Mb/s constantly in HSPA+ areas.
Their network is great, the phone just needs some help.

narunetto said:
The G2 needs a radio update desperately. My myTouch 3G Slide was pretty bad before it got a radio update and then after that the phone was perfect. I was getting 6 Mb/s constantly in HSPA+ areas.
Their network is great, the phone just needs some help.
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I couldn't agree with you more. The radio is crap and this is exactly how the slide was. The ota will fix it and hopefully those other features without patching the current root exploit.

sino8r said:
I couldn't agree with you more. The radio is crap and this is exactly how the slide was. The ota will fix it and hopefully those other features without patching the current root exploit.
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Even my G1 was like that. When I first rooted it, I was having lots of data connection issues until I updated to a newer radio image. Huge difference. So whenever the G2 gets a radio update, hopefully it will clear up the signal problems.

What kind of signal problems are you having? Mine works quite well. If you need data it takes about a second to a second and half to link up then chugs along.

narunetto said:
The G2 needs a radio update desperately. My myTouch 3G Slide was pretty bad before it got a radio update and then after that the phone was perfect. I was getting 6 Mb/s constantly in HSPA+ areas.
Their network is great, the phone just needs some help.
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maybe, b/c i constantly pull 6Mb/s with my vibrant, while the G2 left me embarrassed competing against an EVO and a DroidX
my vibrant beat those phones btw

Will the update disable current apps like wireless tether, pdanet, easytether, barnacle and etc?
Sure hope not.

my phone is perfectly fine

What pisses me off is htc.com advertises this phone to have wifi tethering amongst other features that tmo decided not give us. WHY? Don't answer that. I know why.
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How long till Bell Atrix gets any updates?

6 months? 1 year? Never?
Not like this is a surprise.

Seriously! ATT rolling out another update while nothing from Bell.
Just like the ATT customers, we should be pressuring Bell to enable HSUPA at a minimum.

mywax said:
Seriously! ATT rolling out another update while nothing from Bell.
Just like the ATT customers, we should be pressuring Bell to enable HSUPA at a minimum.
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Bell CSR will tell you that its a hardware issue and will swipe your device for free
cuz thats what they did to me......

Flash the telstra
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Talked to a few of my friends in the bell store, and basically nothing yet till gingerbread update gets released is the overall information that they have gathered from making calls and stuff to find out

sileralias said:
Talked to a few of my friends in the bell store, and basically nothing yet till gingerbread update gets released is the overall information that they have gathered from making calls and stuff to find out
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I don't think anyone in an actual store is gonna know much. Maybe a projected time frame to tell customers but other then that they aren't going to know much.
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It will come out Shortly.... Right now I'm using the Telstra SBF.
Skype works, Mangle (Ventrilo) works... Its great.
They are going to release an update. Just right this moment. It comes threw Motorola, NOT Bell.
Motorola's Priority is on a bigger phone company right at this moment. and that is Att.
Soon.

Mossys said:
It will come out Shortly.... Right now I'm using the Telstra SBF.
Skype works, Mangle (Ventrilo) works... Its great.
They are going to release an update. Just right this moment. It comes threw Motorola, NOT Bell.
Motorola's Priority is on a bigger phone company right at this moment. and that is Att.
Soon.
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You're on the Telestra SBF, but how are you gonna get back to Bell version if you want a future Bell OTA?...

Lets hope he did a backup.

Motorola in Canada is like Samsung in the US.
*sigh*

hope they will respond to at/t update soon...can't stand having bought this phone and then knowing they have disable hsupa....What a shame!

Just send them a mail about this....everyone should do the same at least!
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Haha I accidentally wiped my sd card doing testing in my xoom. I'm stranded on the telstra for now and not too worried. I'm sure if I had too I could take it back to motorola service center... Again.
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ChongoDroid said:
Haha I accidentally wiped my sd card doing testing in my xoom. I'm stranded on the telstra for now and not too worried. I'm sure if I had too I could take it back to motorola service center... Again.
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Same here, I lost my nandroid backup with an accidental wipe of my sd card. Im stuck on Telstra for a bit also.

A software update is now available for the Bell version of the Motorola Atrix!
- To download the update manually:
Go to: Menu > Settings > About Phone > Software Update
- I'm not sure what the size of the update file is, but I would suggest downloading it over WiFi as opposed to the Bell network so you don't exceed your data allowance and incur extra charges.
- Ensure that your phone is at least 50% charged before attempting the update. Idealy, charge it beyond 50% to be safe.
-- The updated version is v37.23 and brings Android Froyo up to version 2.2.2, and contains numerous updates:
Upload Data Speed
Increased upload speed at which data can travel on the network.
Data and Voice Connection
Improvements to prevent interruptions to data and voice connection.
Screen
Improvements to prevent screen from freezing.
Skype
Improvements to call audio function so it is easier for the person you called to hear you. Please note this application is not pre-loaded on phone, but is available for download from Android Market.
Wi-Fi
Increased functionality by enabling Yahoo Email to be sent over a Wi-Fi connection.
Display
Improved International Roaming Warning Message by simplifying user notification so that it only appears on the screen when you move to a new network.
Happening Widget
Improved Happenings Widget to ensure that you receive the latest updates across the social networks you are connected to such as Facebook, MySpace, Twitter.
Calling
Improvements were made to incoming and outgoing call functionality to ensure a more seamless experience
Expanded Language Support for Webtop
Accented character support within Webtop application.
Improved Support for POP/SMTP Email
Support for SMTP outgoing servers that do not require authentication
Improved Exchange Performance
Improved Exchange Email/Calendar/Contacts performance

T-Mobile wifi calling

Hi,
Does anyone know if T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2 work with wifi calling feature?

SGS2 Hercules is too new, it's not even on sale yet for another week
i doubt people can answer you until next next week

I am going to assume yes, because all of the new t-mobile phones have it, BUT it doesn't mention it in the features on the t-mobile site.

Moved

I just got my SGS2 for Tmobile today. I'm coming from a mytouch 4g and use the wifi calling app every now and then.
at the moment, I do not see any icon for wifi calling on the SGS2. one came by default on the mytouch 4g. but not on this.
I was assured in the store that this feature was supported. but i'm not sure how if I don't have the tmobile app installed on the phone and can't find it on the market.

No wifi calling support and wifi hotspot NOT FREE!!!
Just got the SGS2 Wednesday...
There is no Wifi calling app and no support for it currently. I even tried installing the kineto apk from my G2X and it would install no problem, but then immediately FCs every time. Some t-mo forums I read support.t-mobile.com /message/42893#42893 state that there will be an app in a future update to enable this. But, it says the phone will IMS-based (as opposed to UMA or GAN). From what I understand, the Wifi calling app is free and does not deduct your plan minutes if you call to enable this feature and have the rep set it up this way. AND, if your phone supports calling over UMA! So, this really sucks! I get spotty reception in my house and chose a lower rate plan all with the expectation that this end-all be-all phone would obviously support this.
Also, don't be fooled by the Wifi Hotspot app the phone comes with. It would appear to work correctly without a hitch, but then nothing connects through it. I finally realized that when connected every page you attempt to visit on the tethered computer points to offers.t-mobile.com /tethering/upsell.do
Are you freaking kidding??? Again, aren't we buying this amazing phone and paying a premium for it because it can do anything???
Anybody else find this? Any official word from t-mo that this was all just a big mistake?
PS-Sorry, I had to split the urls above into two parts, I didn't realize you couldn't post outside urls for the first eight messages.

jsnarbogast said:
Just got the SGS2 Wednesday...
There is no Wifi calling app and no support for it currently. I even tried installing the kineto apk from my G2X and it would install no problem, but then immediately FCs every time. Some t-mo forums I read support.t-mobile.com /message/42893#42893 state that there will be an app in a future update to enable this. But, it says the phone will IMS-based (as opposed to UMA or GAN). From what I understand, the Wifi calling app is free and does not deduct your plan minutes if you call to enable this feature and have the rep set it up this way. AND, if your phone supports calling over UMA! So, this really sucks! I get spotty reception in my house and chose a lower rate plan all with the expectation that this end-all be-all phone would obviously support this.
Also, don't be fooled by the Wifi Hotspot app the phone comes with. It would appear to work correctly without a hitch, but then nothing connects through it. I finally realized that when connected every page you attempt to visit on the tethered computer points to offers.t-mobile.com /tethering/upsell.do
Are you freaking kidding??? Again, aren't we buying this amazing phone and paying a premium for it because it can do anything???
Anybody else find this? Any official word from t-mo that this was all just a big mistake?
PS-Sorry, I had to split the urls above into two parts, I didn't realize you couldn't post outside urls for the first eight messages.
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I am with you. I use the wifi calling feature on a regular basis and I pissed that it doesnt have it. Its my fault I moved from the sensation to this and figured it would have it. I will wait for the update that hopefully comes soon.

Return the phone and cite the lack of WiFi calling/texting as the reason. If you just keep it and wait, they may assume you guys are all happy with what you got and never put it in the update... Pick your poison.