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Did anyone else notice how the screen can be kinda grainy? its only really noticable if your kinda close to the screen and most noticible on text in a web page or something thin. Is it normal for OLEDs or is something wrong with my phone
I can at least confirm that compared to the G1, the Nex1 screen is insanely oversaturated and the contrast is really high. You might also be noticing that in many applications lazily designed for smaller screen dimensions, raster graphics are being scaled up, which causes nasty artifacting (text and pure vector apps should be okay, though).
And now that you mention it, if I hold the phone *really* close to my face, the dot patterns are a little more visible than on a non-OLED.
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i know for a fact the oversaturation is normal. OLED displays show much more saturated colors than LCDs because of their design. Im talking specifically about the grainyness meaning how edges look kind of dotty its hard to explain with words lol. Its usually not noticible unless you hold it up close to your face or youre specifically looking for it.
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i know for a fact the oversaturation is normal. OLED displays show much more saturated colors than LCDs because of their design. Im talking specifically about the grainyness meaning how edges look kind of dotty its hard to explain with words lol. Its usually not noticible unless you hold it up close to your face or youre specifically looking for it.
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Those are called pixels.. put your nose to any LCD screen and you'll see the same..
It's because some things just weren't built for the higher res screen the N1 sports compared to other Android devices, that and the screen has a significantly sharper image than any other phone I've looked at.
Yeah, you can tell some apps and widgets werent designed for hi-res, this phone is blowin me away so far though, I love my G1 and mytouch but they got nothin on this beast
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Those are called pixels.. put your nose to any LCD screen and you'll see the same..
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i know this but im just saying on my display its noticibley more noticible (no pun intended) than on an LCD. are you guys seeing the same thing?
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i know this but im just saying on my display its considerably more noticible than on an LCD. are you guys seeing the same thing?
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You're seeing it more because of the nature of the OLED screen methinks, everything is much more pronounced, which is why it creates such a nice picture.
im asking if YOU are noticing it lol
Yea, if I look really really really really close I can sort of see it, nothing to worry about though
like how close? youre making it sound like youre using an electron microscope or something. I can begin to notice it about half a foot away!
sorry if i sound nit-picky I payed 530$ and want to make sure my phone is perfect (especially since im probably gonna void my warranty and unlock the bootloader)
If my nose is almost touching it I can see the pixels somewhat, depends what application I'm looking at though.
i can just imagine all of you guys just stilling there putting this nexus one up to your noses and having someone walk in and yell "WTF are you doing?!"
... blueman did you notice this as well or no
unfortunately my nexus one is still somewhere in between Moutain View and Vegas.
Melt, I can see what you're talking about but I don't really notice it unless I'm looking for it or like someone else said I hold it right next to my face, but I can't tell what you're freakin out about cause as a whole my display looks damn amazing.
why are people so paranoid about things?
cause these things cost 530$ + tax.
the grainyness you're seeing is probably upscaled images from 3rd party applications. Since the Droid and Nexus one both have super high res screens, some applications graphics wont fit properly, and the phone will resize them without re-rendering it.
Kinda like trying to print a 1 megapixel image on a billboard, it will turn into giant pixels.
The stock android apps should look fine though. So far I've been very pleased with the display and how things look.
hope this helps. I work a lot with graphics.
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like how close? youre making it sound like youre using an electron microscope or something. I can begin to notice it about half a foot away!
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Now you got me curious. I can notice the pixel grain (especially on gradient backgrounds) at about 5" or closer. I am slightly nearsighted, though.
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dills84 said:
the grainyness you're seeing is probably upscaled images from 3rd party applications. Since the Droid and Nexus one both have super high res screens, some applications graphics wont fit properly, and the phone will resize them without re-rendering it.
Kinda like trying to print a 1 megapixel image on a billboard, it will turn into giant pixels.
The stock android apps should look fine though. So far I've been very pleased with the display and how things look.
hope this helps. I work a lot with graphics.
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im seeing the faint grainyness effect everywhere even home screen
This is definitely a superior phone to the iphone 4 in most ways, with things such as swype, larger screen, 1080p video, 8MP camera to mention a few. But every time I see an iphone4, I can't help wishing the SGS2 looked more like it. The iphone 4 is aesthetically pleasing with that really nice brushed silver band all the way around it and those cool silver buttons such as the two separate volume rockers. And the back of it has that super polished black glass with silver or white logo. I suppose it would be more fragile if dropped than the SGS2. The whole thing just looks so sexy.
I'm not suggesting my SGS2 is ugly, far from it, it's beautiful, but it's perhaps more like the iphone 3G in shape, ie, a slightly older design copy. I'd like to see the SGS3 looking more like the iphone4. Anyone agree or perhaps you don't find the iphone that special to look at?
if they where to make it have more of a premium feel it would be more heavier and i think they like it light i also think the sgs 3 when it comes out will be lighter with a better screen probably 4.4 or 4.5 inch screen
Hmm, i've seen enough people with iphone4s oggling my sgs2 so I guess it can't look that bad, I understand what you mean about the iphone 4 looking pretty but I wouldn't want a copy
actually, i'd be happy if the SGS series looked nothing like the iPhones at all! What's the point of having an iPhone clone that's not an iPhone? Or a device that's clearly better, only to be labeled as it's clone?
As much as i hate to admit it, the series so far has already quite clearly been inspired by iPhone design, resulting in lawsuits and what not - as well as the wrath of both the android and iPhone community - calling the phones 'clones' of the iphone (SGS1 vs 3gs especially).
it's just that it's such an amazing series of phones - clearly superior to anything else out there - so i do wish it had it's own distinct design philosophy. A bit like what HTC is doing with it's unibody design - it might be gimmicky but it's certainly distinct and it defines and separates HTC phones from other ones in the market.
Though it's clear that samsung worked hard on the SGS2 design. i really do like it, and to make such a powerful phone so thin is a marvel of design and engineering in itself. The monolithic and minimalist exterior are a step in the right direction, so too is the textured back. The only thing i'd change is removing the home-button and the chrome border around the phone, and the samsung logo from the front - so that the face of the phone would look like a slab of black industrial sexiness - somewhat like the nexus s.
Even though I must confess to being a dedicated anti-fan of all things Apple, I honestly believe the iPhone 4 is the single ugliest piece of hardware I have seen in a long time - square, boxy, dull...and that's before you turn the thing on and the boredom levels reach critical.
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Even though I must confess to being a dedicated anti-fan of all things Apple, I honestly believe the iPhone 4 is the single ugliest piece of hardware I have seen in a long time - square, boxy, dull...and that's before you turn the thing on and the boredom levels reach critical.
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That made me lulz.
I feel the same, I think the iPhone overall well crafted, but far from special. and it does indeed hit critical when you switch that screen on lol.
People say that the phone can't be premium and light but I'd argue that a Titanium chassis would probably be lighter than plastic. I think to make the SGS2 more premium removing the lump from the bottom of the phone would work wonders. Again the bezel could have been Titanium, which would have looked cool. If anything getting rid of the home key would have made the phone more Samsung and less iPhone.
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Even though I must confess to being a dedicated anti-fan of all things Apple, I honestly believe the iPhone 4 is the single ugliest piece of hardware I have seen in a long time - square, boxy, dull...and that's before you turn the thing on and the boredom levels reach critical.
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You must not see much hardware in your day to day, or your Apple hatred is blinding you. There's tons of ugly, tacky and terribly designed hardware being released every day. Just look at the PC Modding community or all the mid and low-end phones.
@diablous
You are correct, the build quality is very good and we shouldn't forget that.
It's the design I have a problem with - it's like a 1970/80s Volvo - you know you're not going to come off worst if you hit anything smaller than a sixteen wheeler, but it's not going to attract anything much better than Susan Boyle in the lady stakes.
For the record I'm not overwhelmed by the SGS2 either. It's OK and certainly a bit better than the iPhone 4. iPhone 3 was actually quite sexy...but still boring.
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I don't disagree, but I'm talking high end kit here, not the dodgy clones and wannabees
The SGS2 and all Samsung smartphones before it look like an evolution of other Samsung phones that came out before the iPhone.
Samsung copied nothing. The F700, which came out before the iPhone, had the metal surround, square centre button and similar interface.
Even if Apple had a point about the SGS2 looking like the iPhone, which i dont think it does, it still has a problem with the fact that if anything the iPhone copied Samsungs design in the first place. Lets also not forget that the iP4 has design elements that clearly came from the Nokia N96..
looking at it from eastetics i'd say sgs2 is more beautiful than the ip4
it's thinner, lighter and the overal blackness appeals me alot
but i have to give it to the ip4 handle wise
it has a mute switch and spreaker on the bottom side.
best layout i have ever worked with is an idevice.
and headset remote with volume is for me also a big plus
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@diablous
It's the design I have a problem with - it's like a 1970/80s Volvo - you know you're not going to come off worst if you hit anything smaller than a sixteen wheeler, but it's not going to attract anything much better than Susan Boyle in the lady stakes.
For the record I'm not overwhelmed by the SGS2 either. It's OK and certainly a bit better than the iPhone 4. iPhone 3 was actually quite sexy...but still boring.
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What you call boring, for some of us, means classy, clean and beautiful. Everyone has their own idea of what looks good. The iPhone has always been regarded as one of the best looking hardware pieces ever made, in all it's versions and Apple has always spent a lot of money on getting the design right.
Just as a curiosity, what do you consider a good looking phone that isn't "boring"?
I love the body. BEFORE the iPhone 4, ask yourself, what was each manufacturer trying to achieve with there phones? (flagships/higher band phones)
THEY WANTED thinness AND lightness.
As soon as the iPhone 4 comes along, the whole industry generally tries to focus on heavier phones. The GS2, makes a stand and brings a whole new feel.
I personally feel uncomfortable with an iPhone 4 in my hand because it feels very brick-like (mainly due to the weight).
Plus, look at home many iPhone users converted to The GS2. I've seen SO many on the forums. God knows how many there are around the world.
I also like the smooth plastic on the bottom-back. (the bulgy bit with the speaker)
Whether it was intentional design or not, I think it's great for some grip and I generally find my little finger resting on the verge (where the back cover rises to the smooth plastic)
i think the SGS2 is a pretty good looking Phone had friends pick it up and say "this is really nice", or "wow that is light!" etc. i think its a Great phone. i Hate iPhones tbf but i did have an iPhone 4 and think the quality of the build was Slightly better (bar the stupid antenna design.. Doh!) mainly due to the higher quality materials used. still cant complain though, i love my S2 !
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What you call boring, for some of us, means classy, clean and beautiful. Everyone has their own idea of what looks good. The iPhone has always been regarded as one of the best looking hardware pieces ever made, in all it's versions and Apple has always spent a lot of money on getting the design right.
Just as a curiosity, what do you consider a good looking phone that isn't "boring"?
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Not sure why you are getting quite so defensive about me expressing my opinion when you then go on to present your own highly subjective opinion as if it is fact. You sound a bit like an Apple fanboi? At least I have been quite open in expressing my prejudice against Apple.
To satisfy your curiosity, I like the HD2 - nice mix of functional oblong and sexy curves. Now, to be clear, that's my opinion, not a statement of fact. It's neither right nor wrong.
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Not sure why you are getting quite so defensive about me expressing my opinion when you then go on to present your own highly subjective opinion as if it is fact. You sound a bit like an Apple fanboi? At least I have been quite open in expressing my prejudice against Apple.
To satisfy your curiosity, I like the HD2 - nice mix of functional oblong and sexy curves. Now, to be clear, that's my opinion, not a statement of fact. It's neither right nor wrong.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound aggressive. I do like Apple and I love their industrial design. I am not, however, a "fanboi" or else I wouldn't have an SGS2 and an HTC Sensation with me
I admit I just find it hard to conceive the iPhone 4 as "ugly", but again, to each his own and I really can't blame you for voicing your own opinion. My apologies. I just wanted to debate a bit on the idea of phone design, which is something I find very interesting.
I agree on the HD2, it's introduces a bit of a "mean" look to the slate design and makes it look tough. The only thing I don't like are the curved buttons. I think squared ones would've looked better.
Come on guys!
This phone is a real master piece, definitely unique in design and really appealing!
It's great to be special!
I wish they...
1- Change the logo
2- Place the speaker at the bottom (to prevent sound muffling)
3- Make a mute button
4- Place the power button at the top (mistakenly pressed when pressing volume rocker)
iphone = glassy brick ....................
sevoflurane said:
Come on guys!
This phone is a real master piece, definitely unique in design and really appealing!
It's great to be special!
I wish they...
1- Change the logo +1
2- Place the speaker at the bottom (to prevent sound muffling) +1
3- Make a mute button. Maybe a button mapping, like a long press on the volume down or something, but not a separate button.
4- Place the power button at the top (mistakenly pressed when pressing volume rocker) +1
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound aggressive. I do like Apple and I love their industrial design. I am not, however, a "fanboi" or else I wouldn't have an SGS2 and an HTC Sensation with me
I admit I just find it hard to conceive the iPhone 4 as "ugly", but again, to each his own and I really can't blame you for voicing your own opinion. My apologies. I just wanted to debate a bit on the idea of phone design, which is something I find very interesting.
I agree on the HD2, it's introduces a bit of a "mean" look to the slate design and makes it look tough. The only thing I don't like are the curved buttons. I think squared ones would've looked better.
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No worries my friend, a bit of healthy debate is always good.
We can agree to disagree about the iPhone, but at least we have some common ground on the HD2.
I'll see your square buttons and raise you soft buttons like the SGS2 though - the only real weakness (in my opinion) with the HD2 was the tendency of the touchscreen to fail apparently because of some connectivity issue caused by wear from repeated use of the power button. Twice mine had to go back for repair.
I'm not sure the SGS2 will ever rival the HD2 for versatility, but it's the first phone that I've had that can work quickly enough to keep me from getting impatient. It's a heck of a device, iClone or not. (And I say definitely NOT)
Honestly never want to own a phone with the iPhone 4 design again. While it looks nice, it demands a case. Drop it your screwed, oh and its a smudge fest front and back.
ive had the phone for a week and today i just noticed some burn in where the nav bar is. its faint but definately noticable when on homescreen or anytime the navbar isnt black, the whole are is slightly brighter. anyone else getting this already?
Pictures?
trying to capture it now, but all i have is my old htc one m7's camera and its not liking taking pictures of lit up screen. also while trying to get picture i just noticed on the lockscreen i can see the outlines of the triangle and square nav buttons.
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trying to capture it now, but all i have is my old htc one m7's camera and its not liking taking pictures of lit up screen. also while trying to get picture i just noticed on the lockscreen i can see the outlines of the triangle and square nav buttons.
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That's awful. How did you manage to burn in the screen so quickly though? (assuming you've had it for a few days/weeks)
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That's awful. How did you manage to burn in the screen so quickly though? (assuming you've had it for a few days/weeks)
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i have no idea, its not like ive been on non stop or anything either and ive had brightness at around 50%. this is really irritating considering its only been week though. also ill have to post pics tomorrow when i can get ahold of an actual camera my htc ones is poop and jst makes a fuzzy mess when trying to capture it. just watched the video, that is exactly what i have. wish I hadn't watched it though, since now that I looked at the status bar I notice it there too.
This is going to be a big problem for Motorola. Not seeing this yet on mine but with only a couple days left to return it I will be looking carefully. Thanks for the heads-up.
I finally had my mind made up to get this phone...I am definitely going to have to rethink that decision!
I have the same thing happening to mine. Very faintly on my device. I'm floored that its happening already. My game plan is to let it get really bad over the next year and before the warranty runs out force a replacement if it gets any worse.
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I finally had my mind made up to get this phone...I am definitely going to have to rethink that decision!
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same thing here. but could this problem be just merely defective unit(s) ?
I'm utterly disappointed with this news :crying:
Nothing here yet. Burn in was the one thing I disliked about my Nexus One...
Gonna use mine for 6 months and jump it for the G4 more than likely anyways.
This problem sucks for the people that buy it to use for a longer period.
G3
You mean its wrong to expect a high end device to not have any defect for more than 6 months? If that is the case for this phone, better to just avoid than.
No not at all. I mean it sucks period.. No device in this day and age should suffer from this. It won't bother me as much because I switch devices every so often. But for the people that don't, they pretty much paid high dollar for this..
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People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
will have to see i guess
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People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
will have to see i guess
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That sucks. I haven't noticed it on my Nexus 6, but I have the 1 yr manufacturer warranty and I bought a warranty through Squaretrade so I should be good. My friend at work who sits next to me has the Moto X 2014 and i'll be sure to mention it to him so he can keep an eye out for it.
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People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
will have to see i guess
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She also did mention that the Moto X she only uses it for reviews and before that she barely used it. I had mine since monday (5 days) and while I'm not a heavy screen on user, I'm not seeing anything yet. Like others have said, if and when it gets noticeable, I'll just call my carrier and have it replaced (not a big deal).
This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?
Pilz said:
This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?
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Try not to leave a static image on the screen for too long?
Give this a read : http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-fix-galaxy-s4-screen-burn-in-and-ghosting
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Try not to leave a static image on the screen for too long?
Give this a read : http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-fix-galaxy-s4-screen-burn-in-and-ghosting
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So what about battery saver? Having a orange nav and status bar seems to be counterproductive on this phone.
Pilz said:
This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?
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Cheap amoled panels. Motorola probably bargain binned it. Samsung probably uses the highest quality ones in their devices and then sells based on the quality of the panel.
Ok So this is the thread where you come to talk about the build quality of the 5X and any issues/defects you discover with your device. Since it seems like devices will be shipping soon I thought I'd get this thread started. More info will be added to this OP as people report things.. stay tuned..
Hopefully this thread doesn't get used much
LG is known to use plastics that can crack in weird places but I'm hoping none of those issues are present
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Hopefully this thread doesn't get used much
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Oh it will.. All the OCD people will flood to it with every little thing.. I know I use to be one of them.. haha I stopped reading threads like this because they would make me notice things I never would have noticed before and would have been in ignorant bliss if I did not read the thread.. haha With the N5 I thought mine was solid, until I read a similar thread on it and found my volume buttons rattled when you tapped the top right of the screen.. It didn't bother me and I didn't notice it much... Until I read one of these threads.. haha
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LG is known to use plastics that can crack in weird places but I'm hoping none of those issues are present
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Yeah...lol. Right near the volume key and the headphone jack on my Nexus 5. At least my screen was and still is perfect.
Zero issues found (so far anyway)
Build quality is excellent, even gaps between screen/chassis and buttons, no backlight bleed. Buttons feel solid and don't wobble and no creaking or flex in the phone. Slight softness on the back cover but I doubt this could be classed as a build issue.
Certainly feels like a quality device and not something just chucked together.
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Zero issues found (so far anyway)
Build quality is excellent, even gaps between screen/chassis and buttons, no backlight bleed. Buttons feel solid and don't wobble and no creaking or flex in the phone. Slight softness on the back cover but I doubt this could be classed as a build issue.
Certainly feels like a quality device and not something just chucked together.
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what color do you have?
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White
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White
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Interesting, and it feels soft? Not like plastic?
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Interesting, and it feels soft? Not like plastic?
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Its plastic, just feels like there is a little "give" in the middle. Hand feel is pretty similar to the n5, maybe a little less grippy.
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Its plastic, just feels like there is a little "give" in the middle. Hand feel is pretty similar to the n5, maybe a little less grippy.
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Idk if you held a Moto X 2014, but is it something like that? There was a little "give" if pushed hard enough (really hard actually)
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Idk if you held a Moto X 2014, but is it something like that? There was a little "give" if pushed hard enough (really hard actually)
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Not held one but that describes the feel pretty well
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Not held one but that describes the feel pretty well
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Since you didn't hold one, based on pictures of the plastic backing of the Moto X 2014, is it something like that? I think that's the best comparison phone I can think of when it comes to the type of plastic
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Since you didn't hold one, based on pictures of the plastic backing of the Moto X 2014, is it something like that? I think that's the best comparison phone I can think of when it comes to the type of plastic
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Hard to tell from the pictures to be honest.
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Hard to tell from the pictures to be honest.
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Hmm, is the back ploycarbonate? Is it also smooth to touch or has some grippy substance to it like the black Nexus 5? Idk how else to explain it.
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Hmm, is the back ploycarbonate? Is it also smooth to touch or has some grippy substance to it like the black Nexus 5? Idk how else to explain it.
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im going to assume the back is like the nexus 5 and will be soft touch. that's what i love about my moto g 2015, the rigid back cover. the only concern i have is that protruding camera hump.
A guy over on AC posted some thoughts.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/nexus-5x/595823-mine-has-just-been-delivered-4.html#post4756602
"Just had mine delivered a day early, too. Great stuff.
Here's some quick thoughts (hope OP doesn't mind a small hijack):
1. I got the black one - the material is soft to touch, but not in the same way the original N5 was. The N5 had a grippy kind of feel - this material feels more solid, but silky smooth to the touch. I like it. The edge material is the same as the rear material too.
2. The gap between the glass and frame seems a lot tighter this time - I'm hopeful that there won't be as much dirt finding its way into that area as with the N5, for those of us who don't use cases.
3. The dimensions are lovely. I've come from a Nexus 6 and this just feels so much nicer to hold. Slim and light are the words that fit best.
4. Nice to be back on an IPS too - I prefer the more muted colours. It is as good as the N5 screen. The increase to 5.2" doesn't have any impact on the sharpness as far as I can tell.
5. The buttons protrude a nice distance and have a good clicky feel to them. They don't feel as sharp around the edges as they did on the N5. Small amount of rattle if that sort of thing bothers you.
6. The Nexus logo is printed instead of being inlaid. The logo and fingerprint scanner ring are a dark grey (graphite?) colour.
7. The fingerprint scanner is fast and reliable. It gives a single vibration for a successful attempt and a double for a failed attempt. Just touch the scanner to activate the phone.
8. Camera opens quickly and the auto-focus seems reliable and rapid. Haven't got much more to say about the camera yet.
9. The OS feels slightly slower than 5.1.1 on the N6. Very smooth, but more delibrately paced, if that makes sense. I wonder if that's more Marshmallow than the hardware - particularly as this benchmarks in the same region as last year's N6.
10. Ambient display seems to work at least as well as my N6 - although it's early days still.
That's all I have for now. It's a good start though and exactly the phone I wanted last year."
Now that devices are shipping and people are getting them.. Post your observations about build quality
Hi
Build quality seems good, nothing to report of a negative nature.
Regards
Phil
About N5. I got mine ran over by a Kart. Broke the screen, replaced it. Months later happened something similar, this time the LCD even cracked (guess it was a fake spare). Just to give you an idea of the treatment.
Not one plastic crack!
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Are the speaker grille things hard plastic? Is it durable? It looks like it can be easy to break if pressed or similar
edit: I am worried that it can be pushed in if it gets hit or it can pop off
Hello, everyone!
I watched few reviews about the phone...And really sorry to say it but I'm not much impressed, but I definitely will upgrade to from htc one m8. Big htc fan here . I like the style, screen, colours ..Can't really say about the camera probably will be good.The new sound should be awesome + the headphones... But when come to the software..... For one year they didn't touch the sense? Really ? Even TouchWiz is changing, can't understand why htc decided to stay at sense 8, or like is now just "HTC Sense UI" . In the whole review, I generally see - The colours, squeeze (I think they too much depending on this new feature which we still didn't know how it will work after month or two of using it), How google OK works that was fun tho , wasn't working the first few times and the 3d sound...And exactly how they said - simple. And I wasn't disappointed like this from quite long time .I expected something more "brilliant". They just made a review on software app - the edge stuff, htc companion and OK Google They even didn't mention htc sense, which didn't move much from 2015. Isn't this little bit pathetic to you? I want to hear your thoughts on that. Did you expect more, like me? Anyway, I'm still considering buying it when the sales start in my region.
Well having been able to hold it in my hands and play with it for a few hours I can say the following:
First of I really like the Edge Sense feature as it worked really well on my review unit. In combination with a deeply integrated Goggle Assistant and Amazon Alexa it will be a well done upgrade if new ways of using your phone. Sense has made a large step in the last year and continues in debloating with regard to reducing HTC Apps that are redundant to Google Apps, as well as tweaks regarding performance done under the hood, and last but not least integration of the above mentioned Edge Sense.
Camera is top notch, achieving highest DxOMark - 90 Points - rating of a Smartphone thus far.
Audio has come one step further as well. Only thing to name here, as it will already suffice, is the implementation of Active Noise Cancellation with the In-Ear Headphones coming in the box, and USB-C-to-3.5mm-adapter that brings an integrated Amplifier as well an an 24bit DAC.
The display, though some might dislike the design of the front, has really deep blacks and good colours - especially if compared to an AMOLED.
Ah and IP67 of course is a great step forward.
Those are just my 2 cent of a first impression coming from a personal hands on. Mire will follow once I receive the U11 myself and go to some more time to play.
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How black is black? The G6 came close to AMOLED with a 0.228 cd/m2 and the HTC 10 logged in at 0.29 according to the GSMArena review.
jpmiv said:
How black is black? The G6 came close to AMOLED with a 0.228 cd/m2 and the HTC 10 logged in at 0.29 according to the GSMArena review.
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Screen noticeably better than on 10. U11 is a "must update" for anyone holding prior to a 10. For 10 owners, not mandatory (but definitely better in several ways).
anyone listened to the headphones is it the same loudness of of htc 10 ?
Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Well having been able to hold it in my hands and play with it for a few hours I can say the following:
First of I really like the Edge Sense feature as it worked really well on my review unit. In combination with a deeply integrated Goggle Assistant and Amazon Alexa will be of a well done upgrade if new ways using your phone. Sense has made a large step in the last year and continues in debloating with regard to reducing HTC Apps that are redundant to Google Apps, as well as tweaks regarding performance done under the hood, and last but not least integration of the above mentioned Edge Sense.
Camera is top notch, achieving highest DxOMark - 90 Points - rating of a Smartphone thus far.
Audio has come One step further as well. Just One thing to name is the implementation of Active Noise Cancellation with the In-Ear Headphones coming in the box, and USB-C-to-3.5mm-adapter that brings an integrated Amplifier as well an an 24bit DAC.
The display, though some might dislike the design of the front, has really deep blacks and good colours - especially if compared to an AMOLED.
Ah and IP67 of course is a great step forward.
Those are just my 2 cent of a first impression coming from a personal hands on. Mire will follow once I receive the U11 myself and go to some more time to play.
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This is good to hear. I'm a big fan of HTC and this device seems a step in the right direction for them. I put my pre-order in and am very excited. I've also always liked HTC for their willingness to let users unlock as they please, dev friendly. This phone has me pretty excited.
One thing I need to know, is the earpiece speaker better/louder than the horribly quiet 10? If I'm anywhere other than a relatively quiet place I can barely hear anyone on a phone call.
yung40oz84 said:
This is good to hear. I'm a big fan of HTC and this device seems a step in the right direction for them. I put my pre-order in and am very excited. I've also always liked HTC for their willingness to let users unlock as they please, dev friendly. This phone has me pretty excited.
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Which colour did you pick. I went for black. Thought of ordering the Amazing Silver but they didn't have it at my carried in Germany. Those two colours are the most gorgeous ones in my eyes. Maybe black is better as on silver you can see fingerprints a lot better than on the black one. Guess this would get me on my nerves by the time anyway.
And the glas, as well as the metal edge are feeling really good in hands. Was a warm day when I used it this first time, and it had a good grip even with my sweaty hands. There was no time it felt slippery to me.
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I'm excited to see how the device does irl, I never pre-order. The echo dots are cool, but I don't think I will use them much. Also concerned about charging and using headphones at the same time. I do that at work and on flights. I might wait for the note 8, but that is a long way off and will probably be a huge phone.
For the money, I think the U11 is the best bang/buck combo, especially because it is unlocked, will have custom roms and all kinds of tweaks that this great community will use.
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Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
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Get out of here Sammy fanboy. My current HTC 10 is 5.2" and it's not small by any means. I couldn't care less about the bezels on this device or mine... I'll take them over the gimmicky curved edges that cause a slew of annoyances and functionality issues. I had the S8 for a week and I took that crap back and gladly paid the $50 restock fee.
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Get out of here Sammy fanboy. My current HTC 10 is 5.2" and it's not small by any means. I couldn't care less about the bezels on this device or mine... I'll take them over the gimmicky curved edges that cause a slew of annoyances and functionality issues. I had the S8 for a week and I took that crap back and gladly paid the $50 restock fee.
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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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Given an option I'd like less bezel for sure but definitely not even close to a deal breaker. I have multiple phones Pixel XL is my daily driver, have iPhone 7 plus, S8+ and G6. The G6 and S8+ look great with minimal bezel but using Pixel or iPhone 7 plus doesn't bother me at all.
kirdroid said:
Given an option I'd like less bezel for sure but definitely not even close to a deal breaker. I have multiple phones Pixel XL is my daily driver, have iPhone 7 plus, S8+ and G6. The G6 and S8+ look great with minimal bezel but using Pixel or iPhone 7 plus doesn't bother me at all.
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Not a deal breaker for me either im just not a fan of the aesthetics.
The 5.5 screen is something i can't deal with though ...my s7 edge has it and I hate it (although the U11 would be alot better due to the normal aspect ratio). Its mostly why i went with the S8 plus....just for the screen size.
force70 said:
Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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What is this, high school? It's easy to assume your fanboyism based on the phones you have in your signature and the fact that you had absolutely nothing good to say about the U11... Why are you even here? What is your assumption based off of... that fact that I disagree with you? If I'm an HTC fanboy then why would I even bother with the S8? I guess you just overlooked that. You also forget that barely 6 years ago the first Note came out with a 5.3" screen and that was considered huge at the time... And even now that is FAR from small.
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If a smartphone can be too thin for its own good, we can agree the same applies to bezels. I wager that people wanting less and less bezels aren't accustomed to the issues that come with them. First, a bezel adds strength... I'll let you take a guess as to what effect shrinking it would have on that. Then there's the absolutely annoying accidental touching issues... and no, cases don't help with that unless you use a really bulky case. I've never held or owned a phone and said "I wish the bezels were smaller" nor have I ever felt that bezels impeded any phone's functionality and my ability to use them.
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What is this, high school? It's easy to assume your fanboyism based on the phones you have in your signature and the fact that you had absolutely nothing good to say about the U11... Why are you even here? What is your assumption based off of... that fact that I disagree with you? If I'm an HTC fanboy then why would I even bother with the S8? I guess you just overlooked that. You also forget that barely 6 years ago the first Note came out with a 5.3" screen and that was considered huge at the time... And even now that is FAR from small. You really think that the 0.3" that your S8+ has over this U11's 5.5" display really matters, ROFL? Don't make me laugh.
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Ive owned lots of phones from various manufacturers over the years including HTC. Other than the 6P there hasnt been anything else that Ive really liked the last few years other than what sammy has delivered.
And i guess your reading comprehension is not that great as i mentioned 2 things i wasnt a fan of on the U11...and I also mentioned everything else looked great.
Im here because the device does hold some interest for me...and because I can be. Dont like what i say....move along...
And i wont bother with your silliness after this, dont want the mods in here now do we?
Moderator Warning,
Guys enough of the bickering please. Can we keep the posts civil. I will be keeping a eye on this thread.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Which colour did you pick. I went for black. Thought of ordering the Amazing Silver but they didn't have it at my carried in Germany. Those two colours are the most gorgeous ones in my eyes. Maybe black is better as on silver you can see fingerprints a lot better than on the black one. Guess this would get me on my nerves by the time anyway.
And the glas, as well as the metal edge are feeling really good in hands. Was a warm day when I used it this first time, and it had a good grip even with my sweaty hands. There was no time it felt slippery to me.
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I actually got that dark blue
force70 said:
Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
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this is a tired and worn out argument. The performance of the U11 in all ways justifies the Bezels. Samsung wouldn't be able to pull off as great as a phone with their Bezel-less gimmick. The Bezels are there for good reason.
LibertyMonger said:
this is a tired and worn out argument. The performance of the U11 in all ways justifies the Bezels. Samsung wouldn't be able to pull off as great as a phone with their Bezel-less gimmick. The Bezels are there for good reason.
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Please elaborate, Id like to see what exactly bezels...in particular top and bottom have to do with performance.
I could see before on the m7,m8 etc with the full front firing speakers but such is not the case with the U11.
And I wasnt remotely argumentative..i was merely sharing my first impression of the device as that is the thread title is it not?
Thanks.
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