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Looking at the Anandtech review, I saw them mention that the Optimus has a Micro SD slot, in addition to the 16GB on board.
Is this correct?
No ti doesn't. It is a rule from Microsoft that all new Windows Phone 7 MUST have a built in memory.
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piottone said:
No ti doesn't. It is a rule from Microsoft that all new Windows Phone 7 MUST have a built in memory.
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Yes, but a SD card is a built in memory! All HTC WinPhone 7 devices have "just" SD cards as additional internal memory, it's cheaper thand NANDs!
On engadget.com or pocketnow.com you can watch some videos about this. One user plugged a 32gb sd card in his HD7!!!
But I don't know if the Optimus 7 has a sd card or a NAND...
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No ti doesn't. It is a rule from Microsoft that all new Windows Phone 7 MUST have a built in memory.
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As the other guy said, false, look at the focus!
Seeing as the focus isn't being released outside the USA, the optimus is the best bet.
Anyway, the device is out, somebody must be able to confirm.
Actually the Focus is now available on Rogers in Canada as well...
And Samsung is quite generous when you describe your needs to them on their Direct phone line, and they provided me with an unlock code...
Has anyone discovered if LG Optimus 7 have a microsd slot?
Im sure it does however its not accessable without dismantiling the phone.
I wish someone would tear this badboy down and let us have a look inside.
Yeah me too! Most other devices have been ripped apart but i haven't heard anything about the Optimus 7
Yeah, this would be pretty important to me too, since its the only device with internal memory + microSD. If its easy to access this would be a very interesting phone since I need at least my 32GB of storage, better would be more.
LG Optimus 7 SD slot
Sebo1985 said:
Yeah, this would be pretty important to me too, since its the only device with internal memory + microSD. If its easy to access this would be a very interesting phone since I need at least my 32GB of storage, better would be more.
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I have this phone, the SD slot isn't presente becuase it's a Microsoft dictat for ALL Windows Phone 7 cellphones!!!!!
bye
TheJackall
Oh come on buddy, nearly every WP7 device has a SD slot, of course not swapable, but it is in there.
The Optimus 7 has 4GB NAND and 4GB SDRAM, therefore 8GB left over for a SDcard somewhere in there, but: where?
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Oh come on buddy, nearly every WP7 device has a SD slot, of course not swapable, but it is in there.
The Optimus 7 has 4GB NAND and 4GB SDRAM, therefore 8GB left over for a SDcard somewhere in there, but: where?
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Where did you hear it had 4GB NAND and 8GB in the SDcard slot? I believe you, I'm just curious. I am pretty sure all WP7 "have" to have an SDcard slot because the SD Card Association said WP7s support SD cards across the board (just not necessarily consumer accessible). Like I said, someone needs to tear this guy down.
I read it here:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)
Is that correct? Don't know.
But there's surely NAND in there, that's why it loads heavy duty apps way faster than other phones.
I'm buying this phone tomorrow, and will take it apart/provide pictures if there is enough interest. Let me know what you guys think!
wm.andrew.wilson said:
I'm buying this phone tomorrow, and will take it apart/provide pictures if there is enough interest. Let me know what you guys think!
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GREAT! I have 200% interest on this!
I would say you get famous within the various blogs and mobile sites
Absolutely interested here!
Sorry to disappoint guys, I do not possess screwdrivers small enough to open this thing up. I have a set of electronics screwdrivers going all the way down to Phillips Head PH000 but it would need to be at least a PH0000 to open those small little screws. Love the device though! I will pick up a proper screwdriver, but I don't even know where to go about looking for one in Canada.
Oh, what a pity. But shouldn't every DIY store have those?
I have bad news...I took the phone apart completely, all the way down to its component elements and there is no SD slot or card. The 16 GB is NAND and soldered to the board. I will post pictures I took in a different thread for teardown purposes.
My original question:
Anyone know how is this SD card support on Xoom?
I meant, is it micro SD card, mini or full size?
Is there any hardware slot?
Or is it via USB port?
I don't recall there is hardware slot there to insert SD card when I saw all those "hands on".
Answer from Motorola support can be seen from my update here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11546402&postcount=19
gogol said:
Anyone know how is this SD card support on Xoom?
I meant, is it micro SD card, mini or full size?
Is there any hardware slot?
Or is it via USB port?
I don't recall there is hardware slot there to insert SD card when I saw all those "hands on".
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All legit androids use microSD, as does the XOOM.
I don't know what you mean by hardware slot.
USB Port? Are you asking how the microSD slot interfaces with the device? Your question is good, because I too have been wondering where the SD Card goes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...ardware-upgrade-4g-software-patch-microsd-use
I am not seeing any mention of SD card slot in the specs or in the user manual. Am I missing it somewhere?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...rice/1946179.p?id=1218305636450&skuId=1946179
There is a microsd slot at the top of the device. I think i remember seeing it in a hands on video
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jvs60 said:
There is a microsd slot at the top of the device. I think i remember seeing it in a hands on video
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I saw it in a video but it was not the same model. It had a different color for the back. But it is odd that on Best Buy site the specs show NO for sd slot and no mention of it on Motorola site or user manual. Not sure why this is a big secret since it is a big deal and in fact, deal breaker for me if it is not there.
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I saw it in a video but it was not the same model. It had a different color for the back. But it is odd that on Best Buy site the specs show NO for sd slot and no mention of it on Motorola site or user manual. Not sure why this is a big secret since it is a big deal and in fact, deal breaker for me if it is not there.
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I think I remember hearing somewhere around CES that the SD card slot didn't work and was going to be activated by a later patch. What's up with the Xoom being shipped with all kinds of missing functionality?
The BGR hands-on with the Xoom this week mentions the microSD slot is on the top of the device, along with the headphone jack and SIM slot (if applicable). There is a microSD slot on the device. It's been mentioned several times that it will require a software update from Moto to activate it - it's not clear whether that's a Google issue or a Motorola issue. There has been some speculation that it was because Android 3.0 didn't yet support SD cards at the time the Xoom was being demo'd.
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The BGR hands-on with the Xoom this week mentions the microSD slot is on the top of the device, along with the headphone jack and SIM slot (if applicable). There is a microSD slot on the device. It's been mentioned several times that it will require a software update from Moto to activate it - it's not clear whether that's a Google issue or a Motorola issue. There has been some speculation that it was because Android 3.0 didn't yet support SD cards at the time the Xoom was being demo'd.
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Perhaps that is why it is not mentioned in any of the official specs. Pretty lame for a $800 device. So I wonder if the slot is there, when it will actually work? Very sloppy.
on page 10 of the manual theres a reference to microsd card. as for where it is i remember seeing it on the top of the xoom during hands on videos.
socomdark said:
on page 10 of the manual theres a reference to microsd card. as for where it is i remember seeing it on the top of the xoom during hands on videos.
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Thanks, I missed that:
"Tips & tricks
• Photos and videos are stored on your micro SD
memory card."
I just hope it actually works without waiting for an update. It is odd that Best Buy specs for the device do not mention an SD slot even exists.
Yes. Support WILL come. I would love to know how they are having trouble with something so basic. Based on the Viewsonic G-Tablet labeling internal memory as SD 1 and the SD card as SD 2.. perhaps they are working on a more fluid integration of it. As long as they let me put the 50,000 apps I plan to install on the internal memory similar to App2SD I'm happy for now.
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Perhaps that is why it is not mentioned in any of the official specs. Pretty lame for a $800 device. So I wonder if the slot is there, when it will actually work? Very sloppy.
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I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
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I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
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I don't understand this comparison. If Apple had a MicroSD card on the device, it would most definitely work out of the box.
dwboston said:
I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
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I don't understand this comparison. If Apple had a MicroSD card on the device, it would most definitely work out of the box.
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On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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Apple does take their time and won't rush to just release a product.
I am sure motorola will have a patch ready to go soon if not already. they may have already gotten it done and put on the device.
Being an early adopter of gadgets I understand that sometimes the first release can be a little buggy.
However it bugs me that Motorola did not clarify these issues. No flash and no SD support out of the gate is something that should have been clarified to everyone. I have followed pretty closely the last month and did not realize either of these issues until today.
Having the promise of working features after day 1 is not always a lock as my Galaxy S phone was promised to have an update for flash support and an update to fix the GPS issue yet that has never happened.
i am still buying one on Thursday but will be deciding on the 29th day if I feel I can trust Motorola.
MOTO just wanted to wear the hat of "first to market a honeycomb tablet". Its a race for that hat, with solid patches coming down the pipe pretty quickly.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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Not sure why we are talking about the Ianything.. But Cut and Paste wasn't initially supported ... enough said.
This has been answered by the Motorola supports:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45325?tstart=0
DansDroid wrote:
Yes Sir, received it today. Here are my readings with all of my apps and settings automatically transferred over. Total internal storage is 28.78gb., 698 mb. media, 518 mb. applications and 27.60 gb. available. There is an external sliding door for the external microSD card and SIM tray that will allow for the Verizon 4G LTE card when both are available in a future software upgrade. The external microSD card, when enabled, will support up to 32 gb., as I had thought. --- Dan
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So, apparently, this could be something NEW to Android.
There is only 1 single partition for all apps, media, files, etc.
That's good!
I think I talked about this in a different thread, but the reason for the delay in sd card support is because the sd card will not be mounted/unmounted whenever you plug it into the pc. Which I would prefer. Having my sd card mount and unmount every time I plug it into the pc is annoying.
This is the reason for the delay. Rebuilding the wheel takes some time.
What is the official launch date of this (if any) and how many $. US availability
and..is the processor Tegra 2?
thirdly you can connect this to the PC for file transfers right,
no HDMI output?
The launch date for Europe is this month, Samsung have not announced a US or Canadian launch date yet.
Portugal have it up for 699euro, but it won't be that expensive in the states (we pay more in Europe :-( )
Yes it has a tegra 2 dual core processor.
And yes this will be able to connect to a laptop/pc via the propriety port.
WRT the hdmi port, it has not been announced but it would be safe to assume that hdmi connectivity will be achieved through a dock/accessory.
One more q
whats the final say on the SD Card.. yay or nay
I have read that there is no sd card slot. However I have also read a few articles over the past week saying there is, I don't know if those articles are ill informed or whether samsung have introduced an sd card in the final build (the one in MWC didn't have one).
I am still expecting no sd card, but being an optimist I am still hoping there might be one in the final launch
Is SD card SO important?
Is sd card so important?
Well not essential. These tablets are not ready to be complete laptop replacements so most people who purchase a tablet will own a laptop/pc. So to get things on and off the tablet and managing the how much is on the memory won't be a problem by using a laptop to connect to.
But must say it would certainly be more than handy to have one and would make the tab 10.1 a perfect device for me.
But this tablet is still a fore runner for me to get. Especially if it's screen is better than the xoom. That could be likely as I have read reviews that describe the screen as the same or similar to the original tab by appearance, which is a good thing.
I teardown my htc mazaa received from MS with WP-APP-It-Up ('n ' )
It's Very similar with hTC Trophy.
Look 4th Pic ('_ ' )
This is Micro SD Slot. There is Empty from the first.
This is Additional micro SD Slot like SAMSUNG FOCUS [1st Gen WP]
I Think hTC Mazaa Can add Additional MicroSD.
anyone add micro sd card to htc Mazaa with Teardown?
I see what you got going on there. That slot in your 4th image does look like a microSD slot but there's nothing there to hold a card in place (unless it just slides in?) and additional software editing would probably be required to read from it if it is indeed a microSD slot.
Does look almost like the Trophy, exp the SD slot. To the poster above, the card just slides in but, it uses a type of tape to hold it in (see what's ripped on the 4th pic)
Manufacturers have done the same thing with other WP7 devices. You only have to produce one SKU, but can customise capacity by adding an 8GB or 16GB card at the factory, thus giving you different models a-la Dell Venue Pro or Omnia 7.
There's been many successful attempts at creating 32GB Dell Venue Pro's. I had a go at installing a 64GB microSDXC, with no luck (and no surprises either )
Nice find!
I've got a mozart and a dev mazaa.
I upgraded the mozart to 32gb, but the card slot on the mazaa doesn't function because the driver for it is missing from the ROM. so unless we get a driver update (other things will be missing too: capacitive buttons lighting, internet sharing, connection setup) we're out of luck.
But it's great to see other enthusiastic minds opening up their phones.
Btw, the Mazaa has the same model number as the Spark W. So with the new HSPL releases, there might be a chance for a custom rom.
Reminds me of the useless flap on the Xoom 2
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Hi, several of we GT 10.1" tab owners over in the tab specific area are looking into adding a external micro SD to our tabs. I am hoping that we might find some more expertise and input in this section of the forum.
The ongoing thread we are discussing the mod in can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600661, but hopefully we can merge the threads, or somehow keep things straight, but it seems this may be the more appropriate forum section.
Brief recap is that it appears the early/pre-release GT-P7500 had an external SD card. My later model GT-P7510 has the associated area on the MOBO unpopulated. I found the connectors, the OP in the thread found the factory SD card holders. I used my tab for a test, soldered the the connector on, and early indications are it is not functioning. So far I haven't been able to dig back into it, but common consensus is that the unpopulated area near the SD reader connector is needed. I have a lot of experience with simpler analog electronics, and analog design, but to repopulate the needed components with no idea of where to start is beyond the scope of my abilities.
We have the GT-P7500 service manual, at least most of it I think. The MOBO photos in the manual show the area populated, but the photos are to low resolution to gain any useful data. I found some supposedly leaked FCC photos of the tab disassembled pre-release. It also shows the SD card area populated, and this one shows the SD card holder as well, but again low resolution.
Currently we are hoping that maybe the very early HW revisions of the 3g GT-p7500 may have had the SD card area populated, and possibly one of you owners could help us.
If anyone has any input, or can help build the circuit from the ground up I am happy to provide any testing/data/pinouts I can.
On a side note-- does anyone know how many times I can disassemble my tab without ruining the case?
Thanks in advance folks!
Jason Campbell
In addition to any missing components, you need to figure out which SDHCI interface of the CPU that is hung off of and add it to the platdata:
https://github.com/pershoot/galaxy-2636/blob/ics/arch/arm/mach-tegra/board-p4wifi-sdhci.c#L296
Looks like 3 is the internal eMMC, 0 is the wifi chip (BCM4329 and 4330 are SDIO wifi chipsets), 1 and 2 are not used.
I too have been toying around with this idea. Looks like I'm not alone in thinking this tab would rock with a microsd. Only you guys are way farther ahead than me! Also I know for a fact that the gtab 10.1 v2 that's coming out sometime this year will have an SD slot. And it looks like little else that's different. Maybe when one of us gets our hands on it we can see on the inside where things are populated or not.
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Hipcatjack said:
I too have been toying around with this idea. Looks like I'm not alone in thinking this tab would rock with a microsd. Only you guys are way farther ahead than me! Also I know for a fact that the gtab 10.1 v2 that's coming out sometime this year will have an SD slot. And it looks like little else that's different. Maybe when one of us gets our hands on it we can see on the inside where things are populated or not.
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Turns out that you're most likely wrong on this - all evidence (including the recent source release I believe) indicates the Tab2 10.1 will be OMAP4-based just like the Tab2 7.0 is.
interesting thanks
Looks like I will finally have some free time to open my tab up again. I plan to ring out the SD card holder to the connector, and then on out from there. I will go at least as far as the unpop area if that is indeed where it leads. While I have it open, do you folks have any suggestions as to other testing or mapping to do? I appreciate the input so far-- I don't really know much about the software side, but we can burn that bridge if/when we get there. Will keep you all posted.
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Jason
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Hi! Do you know that if you add a sd-card extension, you must develop new drivers and kernels? And this could probably make you lose your warranty...
SD card
why do manufactures insist on leaving sd card slots off the build? doesnt seem like it would cost to much include one.
thanks for this
Hi,
My friend has a 10.1 GT 7500,
He bought an external adapter for sdcard.
Perhaps you can use the layout schemas from such a device to discover what you need to make it work internally.
Its probaply the same "signal wires" but now abvailable on the external connector.
Hope this helps/.
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Hi! Do you know that if you add a sd-card extension, you must develop new drivers and kernels? And this could probably make you lose your warranty...
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Yes, thank you. The tab has been rooted and running experimental roms from ~6hrs after I bought it. Warranty has been void for quite a while...
macdova said:
why do manufactures insist on leaving sd card slots off the build? doesnt seem like it would cost to much include one.
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I doubt so much that it is the hardware costs, although it would add up to a significant amount, but rather due to the desire to sell the more costly tabs with more internal memory. After all, why would the you buy a 64gb tab for $200 more than the 16gb one, when you could throw in a 32gb card for $30? It seems pretty clear in this case, Sammy had developed the tab with external SD. There are lots of photos floating around of the pre-release tabs with slots. There is some evidence that they planned this nearly to the last minute, as we are buying the factory holders which "don't exist" on ebay. Unless they could not get the SD reader working properly or had more issues than the time solving was worth, then I think all things point toward this being a plain and simple money move.
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Hi,
My friend has a 10.1 GT 7500,
He bought an external adapter for sdcard.
Perhaps you can use the layout schemas from such a device to discover what you need to make it work internally.
Its probaply the same "signal wires" but now abvailable on the external connector.
Hope this helps/.
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I appreciate the input, I have the Sammy autherized adapters. These all use the USB OTG protocol, and I think it is unlikely that the hardware will be the same. I will deffenitely investigate this though.
Thanks,
Jason
If you don't succeed with the adapters you could do what i'm trying to do with the Kindle Fire. I'm building in a microsd adapter for use with USB host.
Read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25953776
Since I don't have a Galaxy tab I can't really be of any more use, sorry.