So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
gee2012 said:
Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
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Thanks bud, but that doesnt answer my question, I dont need to know what coverage is in my area, but more what phone is capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+
Yes it will. T-Mobile used 1700 and 2100 for HSDPA.
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Here is a coverage map for US T-mobile http://opensignal.com/network-coverage-maps/t-mobile-coverage-map.php.
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El Daddy said:
Yes it will. T-Mobile used 1700 and 2100 for HSDPA.
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Thanks EL Daddy! So if a phone lists those bands 1700/2100 that means it'll work with HSPA?
I ask because I am also looking at this phone the Xperia S and those bands are :
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LT26i
Jess813 said:
Thanks EL Daddy! So if a phone lists those bands 1700/2100 that means it'll work with HSPA?
I ask because I am also looking at this phone the Xperia S and those bands are :
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LT26i
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That one will probably not work as I believe you need both the 1700 & 2100 to work ( up & downlink connection).
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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3G or UMTS is as follows;
2100 refers to Band I / IMT and is used in Europe and Asia
1900 refers to Band II / PCS and is used by AT&T in cities, and by T-Mobile (1900 migration).
1700 refers to Band IV / AWS and is used by T-Mobile (most HSPA service is still here).
850 refers to Band V / CLR and is used by AT&T in rural areas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
T-Mobile is slowly moving HSPA from 1700 to 1900 to support unlocked iPhones and free up 1700 for LTE deployment.
I would look for a phone that supports both (1700 now, 1900 future) or it may have a short life span.
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That one will probably not work as I believe you need both the 1700 & 2100 to work ( up & downlink connection).
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Awesome! I see now, so in order for the phone to work on HSPA it needs both 1700/2100 bandz. AAHHHHHH SWEET! Thanks guys I made sure to hit the thanks button on both of you!
Jess813 said:
So I am keeping my Nexus 4, however I am in the market for a a phone for my wife. It has to work with T-Mobile and I would love to find her a HSPA+ compatible phone, however i am really confused on how to figure this out.
For example I am looking at this phone at GSMArena:
Sony Xperia T and they say these are the bandz:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
How do I know it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA+?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Nexus 4 works great on T-mobiles HSPA+ . I regularly get 20.8 mbps down/2.5 mbps up.. and this is in a 1700/2100 mhz AWS area .. PDX area has not been refarmed to 1900mhz yet - and Nexus 4 supports both 1900 mhz HSPA+ and AWS HSPA+ - so no worries.
Jess813 said:
Awesome! I see now, so in order for the phone to work on HSPA it needs both 1700/2100 bandz. AAHHHHHH SWEET! Thanks guys I made sure to hit the thanks button on both of you!
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Just to clear up one thing. T-Mobile often refers to 2100 as the Download Frequency of AWS (Band IV), while most hardware manufactures reference 2100 as IMT (Band I). See column 2 in the wikipedia link I posted earlier.
I get both bands here in NYC (mostly AWS) and the speed is about the same on both (20 Mbps / 2.5 Mbps), but ping results are quite a bit lower on PCS.
SpookyTunes said:
Just to clear up one thing. T-Mobile often refers to 2100 as the Download Frequency of AWS (Band IV), while most hardware manufactures reference 2100 as IMT (Band I). See column 2 in the wikipedia link I posted earlier.
I get both bands here in NYC (mostly AWS) and the speed is about the same on both (20 Mbps / 2.5 Mbps), but ping results are quite a bit lower on PCS.
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Ok cool thanks for the clear up....
i think i am going with this one for T-mobile, so I should be good right?
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-4899.php
C6902 and L39h (HSPA+)
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
C6903 and C6943 (LTE)
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20)
C6906 (LTE)
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17)
I know to many this is a stupid question but I always buy phones from carriers, never bought an unlocked phone. So...here goes..
Which version is best for Tmobile US LTE and HSPA+?
So, this phone will basically only work on ATT and Tmobile in the US?
Also, if you buy unlocked from Sony and activate on Tmobile and Sony releases an update do you get it directly or have to wait on Tmobile to release it as you would if you got it from Tmobile and not Sony?
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Kanes_Inferno said:
I know to many this is a stupid question but I always buy phones from carriers, never bought an unlocked phone. So...here goes..
Which version is best for Tmobile US LTE and HSPA+?
So, this phone will basically only work on ATT and Tmobile in the US?
Also, if you buy unlocked from Sony and activate on Tmobile and Sony releases an update do you get it directly or have to wait on Tmobile to release it as you would if you got it from Tmobile and not Sony?
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C6903 will work for T-Mobile US on HSPA+ and LTE.
C6916 will be T-Mobile US's version.
C6906 works best with AT&T's HSPA+ and LTE.
Reference page
Hi,
for anyone that is interested THIS wikipedia page lists the majority of carriers worldwide as far as I can tell. Using this information and the information droid102 has posted should answer most questions regarding which phone for which carrier.
HTH
Thanks for the help!
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
How to upgrade to kitkat 4.4.4 India version of c6903 Sony Xperia Z1 pls help
How to enable Volte in c6903? and any way to unblock more LTE bands?
Hi everyone,
I've done some searches in regards of,
Do we have a "3G'd" Z3?
No, Basically all 4 / 5 variants of the Z3 is going to pack a LTE capable with it,
D6603: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 :UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
Below you can add which carrier is for each model, thanks in advance.
Sources: Z3 Documentation White Paper By Sony
GSMArena's Z3 Specs Page.
Xperia Z3 Dual GSMArena's Specs Page
Every phone support 3G
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All have quad band 2G
D6603, D6633, D6643, D6616 have penta-band 3G.
D6653 and chinese models (L55t, L55u) only have quad band 3G(1/2/5/8), missing the AWS 1700mhz band 4.
LTE, you'll have to look at your network and see which bands are more important and are supported
The 6603 has more bands than this! For LTE that is.
electrash said:
Every phone support 3G
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Yup of course every 4G phone has a 3G band but i meant that i found a multiple model numbers and they all support 4G.
paperWastage said:
All have quad band 2G
D6603, D6633, D6643, D6616 have penta-band 3G.
D6653 and chinese models (L55t, L55u) only have quad band 3G(1/2/5/8), missing the AWS 1700mhz band 4.
LTE, you'll have to look at your network and see which bands are more important and are supported
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If you look at the manual it says 4G.
Jhon998 said:
If you look at the manual it says 4G.
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(if you are saying 4G = LTE, then yes)
but LTE is a lot more fragmented than 3G (penta band will cover almost all networks), 2G (quad band will cover almost all networks)
that's why it makes sense to say: quad-band 2G & penta-band 3G support = cover most people
paperWastage said:
(if you are saying 4G = LTE, then yes)
but LTE is a lot more fragmented than 3G (penta band will cover almost all networks), 2G (quad band will cover almost all networks)
that's why it makes sense to say quad-band 2G & penta-band 3G support = cover most people
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Thanks for info, but i say 4G i mean LTE but i feel there is some difference.
Jhon998 said:
Hi everyone,
I have a simple answer to a question,
Do we have a 3G'd Z3?
No, Basically all 4 / 5 variants of the Z3 is going to pack a 4G capable with it,
D6603: 2G GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600
D6643: 2G GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
D6653: 2G GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE 700 / 800 / 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
D6616: 2G GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE 1700 / 1900 / 2100
D6633: Dual SIM / The same Bands as D6603.
I would be appreciated if someone could tell me what carriers is for every model, thanks in advance.
Sources: Z3 Documentation White Paper By Sony
GSMArena's Z3 Specs Page.
Xperia Z3 Dual GSMArena's Specs Page
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The specs you listed is not accurate. I have posted the correct ones which I copied directly from the white paper.
D6603 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
Sango2 said:
The specs you listed is not accurate. I have posted the correct ones which I copied directly from the white paper.
D6603 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
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OP Updated, btw i like the new design of xda.
Jhon998 said:
OP Updated, btw i like the new design of xda.
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Much better.
Oh yes, I like it the design too; much more optimized.
Could anyone confirm bands from 6653?.
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That screenshoot is from te very Z3 6653
Thanks.
awsome
caqo71 said:
Could anyone confirm bands from 6653?.
That screenshoot is from te very Z3 6653
Thanks.
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Just an FYI. I have D6653 flashed with D6603 rom and it kept all of the same bands
Brendo said:
Just an FYI. I have D6653 flashed with D6603 rom and it kept all of the same bands
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Does'n it affect anything else?, I know the bands are hardware related, so it could be nice to flash a 6603 rom. I'll try that. thanks :good:
caqo71 said:
Does'n it affect anything else?, I know the bands are hardware related, so it could be nice to flash a 6603 rom. I'll try that. thanks :good:
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Nothing that I've noticed. Just a change in model number
Brendo said:
Nothing that I've noticed. Just a change in model number
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Hi,
Do you know if it is possible to unlock LTE band 4 on D6653? I need to use that band with my carrier and the phone doesn't include it.
Thanks
Santis7 said:
Hi,
Do you know if it is possible to unlock LTE band 4 on D6653? I need to use that band with my carrier and the phone doesn't include it.
Thanks
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Give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
I have a D6653 as well, wanted to flash to D6603 so I can us a AWS carrier (and root)
Santis7 said:
Hi,
Do you know if it is possible to unlock LTE band 4 on D6653? I need to use that band with my carrier and the phone doesn't include it.
Thanks
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weliyt said:
Give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
I have a D6653 as well, wanted to flash to D6603 so I can us a AWS carrier (and root)
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NO, bands are not unlockable, they are HARDWARE, so, wichever rom that you flash, they will keep you the same bands.
caqo71 said:
NO, bands are not unlockable, they are HARDWARE, so, wichever rom that you flash, they will keep you the same bands.
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I don't see why not.
D6603 and D6653 have exactly the same hardware. Bands restriction can be lifted if those restrictions are by software.
Edit:
Flashing another ROM might not lift bands restriction, but manually editing system props might do the trick.
Have a read of the link I posted.