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Canadian Release Date

Alright so I apologize in advance if this is somewhere on the forum already, and seeing as Google is being uncooperative and giving me a great number of suspected US release dates I was just wondering if anyone had any inside info on when this godly phone will launch in Canada/with which carriers/what cost will be?
I'm finally off contract and wanna dump my POS BBerry Storm for it!

it doesn't matter, because once it's released in the US you can buy it unlocked online...

That would be great if I wasn't on a student's budget (engineering in ontario ain't cheap)

teh_pwnage said:
That would be great if I wasn't on a student's budget (engineering in ontario ain't cheap)
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lol...i know...in Ontario nothing is cheep anymore

nixguy said:
lol...i know...in Ontario nothing is cheep anymore
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WOOO $8500 + books a year in tuition!

I'm so selling my Galaxy S for the S2. The S2 just looks like a very good upgrade over the first Galaxy S

I would LOVE to have the date, because I've been holding off upgrading my desire for a few months and would love for it to come to Telus (hopefully first!). But if not, I would have no problem jumping ship to Bell to get this beautiful marvel of technology!!

teh_pwnage said:
WOOO $8500 + books a year in tuition!
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How about 38 grand a year in tuition... I have to get all my money from "recycling" my gadgets. Like buy a couple phones on contract, sell em off contract for a little extra profit and use the net gain to buy say a desktop or something. Or sell old desktop (old as in 6 months) and use that money to buy phone+laptop. Because of this cycle I don't have one computer or phone for more than 6 months at a time.

Hoping for Windmobile / MobilityCity to bring them into Canada
then we'll have the proper 1700+2100 version
the AT&T 850/1900 version is available for pre order already in many sites
teh_pwnage said:
Alright so I apologize in advance if this is somewhere on the forum already, and seeing as Google is being uncooperative and giving me a great number of suspected US release dates I was just wondering if anyone had any inside info on when this godly phone will launch in Canada/with which carriers/what cost will be?
I'm finally off contract and wanna dump my POS BBerry Storm for it!
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Yea I wouldn't complain about under 10k/yr in tuition... that's a bargain even at state schools in the US.
Anyway, I'm just waiting for T-mobile's version so I can use it on WIND... I really don't want to have to switch to Bell/Telus/Rogers/Fido to be able to use the SGS2.
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WOOO $8500 + books a year in tuition!
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dinan said:
Yea I wouldn't complain about under 10k/yr in tuition... that's a bargain even at state schools in the US.
Anyway, I'm just waiting for T-mobile's version so I can use it on WIND... I really don't want to have to switch to Bell/Telus/Rogers/Fido to be able to use the SGS2.
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Oh i can complain when it's working 4 jobs while trying to juggle an engineering degree to pay tuition and rent

Unless somebody has some inside info, I'd just suggest watching Samsung Mobile Canada's Twitter feed.
Right now they are totally focused on the release of the Nexus S this week, so I wouldn't expect them to give a release date for the S II until that noise settles down.
Gah, can't wait. My old HTC Touch (running Android) is dying a little more each day. Almost useless now.

arlojj said:
Unless somebody has some inside info, I'd just suggest watching Samsung Mobile Canada's Twitter feed.
Right now they are totally focused on the release of the Nexus S this week, so I wouldn't expect them to give a release date for the S II until that noise settles down.
Gah, can't wait. My old HTC Touch (running Android) is dying a little more each day. Almost useless now.
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A Touch running Android? That's insane! My Desire barely handled Froyo due to low memory!!!

mickliq said:
A Touch running Android? That's insane! My Desire barely handled Froyo due to low memory!!!
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Actually, the latest builds people have cooked (and not with 1.5, 2.2.1!) actually run pretty damn smooth. It's come a long way. I have the Bell version of the touch which is at 400Mhz. I doubt the 200Mhz touch would be enjoyable, though.
In fact, I keep checking this forum for the latest SII news from the taptalk app. Some of the more demanding applications don't work very smooth (ex: the official twitter app with it's moving clouds background), and there always seem to be random bugs with different builds (no audio input for voice search or guitar tuners for example) but people are still, surprisingly, churning out more and more refined editions.
If it wasn't for the fact that the top button on my phone was broken (yeah, critical, I have to keep the phone's screen on and therefore the phone plugged in all the time, hence I can't for for the S II to come out!) it would be a pretty damn usable in most respects.

Can't wait for it either!!! But at the same time, in an effort to improve my Desire, I have endless hours of fun trying out new roms, exotic roms!! Hopefully this thing will come close to the kind of support that thing has...

Resisting the urge to "insert stupid random comment here"... I want to say everything in the HTC EVO Vs. iPhone 4 video only make the iPhone zombie want an SGS II (making him smart and saving someone's life!)

GUYS one of the reporters for mobile syrup spoke to the canadian samsung VP and confirmed a late Q2-early Q3 launch!!!
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-to-canada-by-early-q3/

I figure you will have to wait for the NS buzz to cool down and then they will pop this out of no where for the rest of the bunch that didnt get the NS.
You will see this in end June or July to fight the iPhone 5 release, IF Apple is releasing it in July, otherwise it will be Sept.

Either way I don't care... I want the SGS II, NS to me is old tech....
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GUYS one of the reporters for mobile syrup spoke to the canadian samsung VP and confirmed a late Q2-early Q3 launch!!!
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-to-canada-by-early-q3/
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That news makes me beyond happy... you have no idea... and with a possible new job in the works plenty of time to save!

TheSobadef said:
GUYS one of the reporters for mobile syrup spoke to the canadian samsung VP and confirmed a late Q2-early Q3 launch!!!
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-to-canada-by-early-q3/
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Eeeeech. End of June, early July? Sigh.
At least by then my full Bell contract will be over, so I can choose a different carrier if need be. Can't wait to get rid of this HTC Touch/Vogue.

Moving on to the Samsung Galaxy S 2

Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted

BuddyLee said:
Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted
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Good for you.
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May you use it with joy. I am waiting for the quad core arm processors . They are allready used on the new psp. There is only a matter of time now.

BuddyLee said:
Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted
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May you rot in hell with the rest of them...
Unless I get one too...
(I'm not jealous at all! ;-) )
Just don't turn supercurio and hardcore over to the darkside!

Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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starkmapper said:
May you rot in hell with the rest of them...
Unless I get one too...
(I'm not jealous at all! ;-) )
Just don't turn supercurio and hardcore over to the darkside!
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Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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SuperCurio, DocRambone, Chainfire and a few others have already joined us. We are waiting on Hardcore to cross the bridge.

Intratech said:
SuperCurio, DocRambone, Chainfire and a few others have already joined us. We are waiting on Hardcore to cross the bridge.
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What happens to us regular folk who don't buy a new phone every year?
answer: We thrive in our galaxy and travel to the EVEN bigger one (III) after another cycle has passed!

Damn nice, its not available here yet

I ordered a SGS2, sold my SGS1 to someone at work but my SGS2 was delayed (unit shortages) and I am now stuck with an old Motorola flip phone =/

how do you guys even afford to buy a new phone every half a year

I'll wait for the next Google phone. No more touchwiz crap for me, thanks. No more begging for updates.
Also, while it's clearly a better phone, the differences are too small. ppi density was poor already, now with the bigger screen they should have gone for 540 x 960, like the Sensation.

wurstel said:
how do you guys even afford to buy a new phone every half a year
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Really clever guy would have sold SGS 1 just before SGS launch £250 .
Bought O2 PAYG and if it was as many are unlocked sold on Ebay £500 .
Buy PAYG O2 £399 net transfer cost £49 .
If i had thought about it i would have bought more than one O2 for onward sale .
SGS2 has a flashing counter on boot screen better stick with SGS 1
jje

i just got my brand new sgs a couple of weeks ago, after selling my old htc legend, so i'll stick with it for at least one year from now... after i'll master the tehnic of rooting it and all the customizing stuff, maybe then i'll consider upgrading to the new sgs2, but right now i consider it useless for me
only thing i miss from my legend is the sense ui, definetly much more user friendly than the touchwiz stuff, this is the main reason i consider rooting my sgs, i'll just wait for a stable release of sense ui for the sgs and then i'll be completly sattisfied with this awesome phone

heads off to SGS 2 thread tho. no need to make everyone jealous

sammy_user said:
Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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But he is not' yet. The guy has just got approx. +200$ (or mayB I'm wrong) via donations from us users for his magnificent job, so he is still stuck on v1, for now
As for the rest, I just joined the SGS1 club, so if I just thought for changing it, my wife would kill me with a pillow wile I sleep between two flashings ))
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It is too bad that many of the good devs are jumping ship before we get mature Gingerbread releases and mods.
In a way despite all the whinging we see on here about Samsung they are supporting the device for longer than most of the XDA devs.
The doomsayers were saying Samsung would bail on SGS 2.3 given the SGS2, when in fact it was XDA devs that bailed fast upon SGS2 release. Not that they don't have the right and I appreciate the work they did while they were here.

Lol SGS3 comes out late this year... What will people do who just upgraded to SGS2?
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I jut upgraded to 2.3.3 a coupla weeks ago, and I'm content to stay with a 90% cutting edge phone that still outperforms my old iOS Applecrap. It's kinda like having an E46 M3 (last version) versus the the new one. A few performance mods and you're just as good as the stock new one, and most non-gearheads wouldn't notice or care anyway. They'll just be impressed with the notion you own a fast Bimmer.
The money in my case would be better spent on a Honeycomb tablet as a companion to the SGS. Ones like the Asus Transformer look promising in terms of price, performance and battery life over the Asus G50VT laptop I'm typing this on.
I'm not begrudging anyone heading to the next level. Hell, Ill even admit jealousy. It's just that we bought 2 of these since the summer of last year and the shine hasn't worn of just yet, especially since moving to GB. And by the Christmas season, somebody will have raised the bar again. But I'll be still thinking that these are really just phone with a computer along for the ride. And I never upgraded my computers this fast. And stir in that the combined monthly bill is nearly $200 over the initial cost of the damn things. Yup, I'll wait.

JJEgan said:
SGS2 has a flashing counter on boot screen better stick with SGS 1
jje
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What do you mean by this?

Wrong forum for posting about the sgs2 i think...
But since its here, I dont see the point to buy a sgs2 right now unless youre a developer. In the other case it just means having to go back to stock roms and miss out on all the awesome developments that were made for the SGS.
Id rather wait to jump ships until such developments are being made on SGS2 aswell.

Thinking of Galaxy S!

Thinking of buying one for the remainder of my contract. X10 is kind of boring me!
Now both devices have 2.3.3, Can anyone make a better comparison of the two? Performance battery etc?
Anyone else made the swap from x10 to galaxy or vice versa?

Ask chiefy009 he did recently!
Imo the galaxy s is a much better phone.
The gpu is awesome (was the best when it was put out and still to this day outperforms many modern gpus.. i.e. adreno 205), the screen is incredible, better call quality, true multitouch

Galaxy S or S2 the way to go. between $400 for Galaxy S and $600 for Galaxy S2, I am inclined to go with S2.
I currently own the sluggish X10i...

galaxy s :no flash or led/camera only 5MP/Slightly lower resolation.display is good but i think you might want to go for something more future proof.Galaxy S is just plain old.not much to gain.go for galaxy s2 or HTC sensation or wait for nexus prime.its your choice though.just trying to help

Could maybe get one off ebay for around £150 if im lucky.
It is tempting for the next 9 months, then see whst available in April/may when my upgrade is available!

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galaxy s :no flash or led/camera only 5MP/Slightly lower resolation.display is good but i think you might want to go for something more future proof.Galaxy S is just plain old.not much to gain
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lots to gain actually... Like I said the gpu still beats adreno 205 and it is a year older
Also WAY more dev support/custom roms than us.
True multitouch? Maybe some people don't care but I do... I like being able to play games and type without the touch points freaking out
For how cheap you can get them for, it is a great phone

scoobysnacks said:
lots to gain actually... Like I said the gpu still beats adreno 205 and it is a year older
Also WAY more dev support/custom roms than us.
True multitouch? Maybe some people don't care but I do... I like being able to play games and type without the touch points freaking out
For how cheap you can get them for, it is a great phone
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iam not saying its bad.iam just saying maybe he can get something alot better.maybe a slightly used optimus 2x?

josephnero said:
iam not saying its bad.iam just saying maybe he can get something alot better.maybe a slightly used optimus 2x?
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oh definitely I totally agree, I just meant if he was getting one for super cheap it would still be a good upgrade
My new HTC rocks
Adreno 205 ftw, I can finally play good games

scoobysnacks said:
oh definitely I totally agree, I just meant if he was getting one for super cheap it would still be a good upgrade
My new HTC rocks
Adreno 205 ftw, I can finally play good games
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i take your point brother.(i have an arc with Aderno 205 overclocked to 1.4)

Been told by o2 i can upgrade now, 8 months early.
Will cost me £113, then the cost of the phone depeding no the tariff i pick etc.
So could be aswell to do that, for the sake of £150 could have SGS 2.
Just knowing my luck, ill get it, and then the SGS 3 will be announced. I know its coming out just not sure when etc?!?

superleeds27 said:
Thinking of buying one for the remainder of my contract. X10 is kind of boring me!
Now both devices have 2.3.3, Can anyone make a better comparison of the two? Performance battery etc?
Anyone else made the swap from x10 to galaxy or vice versa?
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lol aaaaaages ago...
Galaxy S:
Multitouch:Yes
No ****ty fps cap: Yes!!
Better GPU: Yes
Much lighter-weight
Xperia X10
Multitouch: No, with der "pinch to zoom (?)"
Fps cap at like friggin 20 for stock gingerbread
****ty GPU
Feels like holding a brick...
Lol sorry for being pessimist today... Bad days -_-"

I prefer holding a brick rather than a toy.
(read: I like slightly heavier phones)

superleeds27 said:
Been told by o2 i can upgrade now, 8 months early.
Will cost me £113, then the cost of the phone depeding no the tariff i pick etc.
So could be aswell to do that, for the sake of £150 could have SGS 2.
Just knowing my luck, ill get it, and then the SGS 3 will be announced. I know its coming out just not sure when etc?!?
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oh god definitely get sgs2 then...
even if sgs3 was announced, sgs2 will be supported for a very long time on xda. Biggest selling android phone of all time, you'll have no shortage of hacks or roms

scoobysnacks said:
oh god definitely get sgs2 then...
even if sgs3 was announced, sgs2 will be supported for a very long time on xda. Biggest selling android phone of all time, you'll have no shortage of hacks or roms
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Still can't stop laughing at the name scrappysnacks lol...
MI-ONE maybe?
I couldn't believe that it has 1.5ghz dual core processor...

Prodigy said:
Still can't stop laughing at the name scrappysnacks lol...
MI-ONE maybe?
I couldn't believe that it has 1.5ghz dual core processor...
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Where did he even put that I couldn't find it lol
Yeah I was looking at that actually, awesome price. I saw the video of the beta unit and it didn't look that great. I'll wait till it's actually released to pass judgement though, if it's good it'll be my next phone

Just to give you a little bit of advice from a previous owner and I've been through all the stages your considering ..
Had the x10. Bad phone. Sony Ericsson let it down. Don't get me wrong was great at the time but the novelty quickly wore off.
Quickly replaced with the galaxy s1. Brilliant. Lower res camera and screen but I'm sure SE done some sort of pixel combination thing cause the pictures looked slightly blurred at close range (imagine a stretched 4mp picture). The galaxy s1 however gave none of these issues here. Amazin. Everywhere else (literally) the s1 betters it.
Sold it about two months later when I was offered an s2 by orange. Heads up they've kinda shown off other variants (Google Samsung note for one). However, oh. My. God. S2 all the way. Battery amazing, speed even better and the camera and flash are absolutely stunning.
That been said, it's a bit big (wider and taller) than the x10. Result? I've just got myself an x10 mini and sold the s2 cause it's just too big and I'm always scared I'll damage it as a result.
Honest verdict? Second best phone in the world. As much as I hate to admit it, iPhones (purely for their polish and software finishing) are still on the top spot. Get the S2 buddy.
Oh yeah, GPS + the screen on the S2 are AMAZING.
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I was mis-informed, it would be £153, plus £59 for the phone.
I have about 8 months left on my contract.
Plan would then be, 600 mins, unlim txts 500mb net, insurance for £42 a month!

Basically if i can sell my X10 for £100.
Ill have paid £113 for a galaxy s2 (£213 -100) And then an extra £7 a month for my contract.
Seem worth it?

superleeds27 said:
Basically if i can sell my X10 for £100.
Ill have paid £113 for a galaxy s2 (£213 -100) And then an extra £7 a month for my contract.
Seem worth it?
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definitely...
You'll be going from a ford tempo to a Porsche lol

Done, £213 one off payment. Hope i get around £100 for my X10. which means ive bought out my last 8 months of contract and got a SGS 2For £113.
Bargain.

Xiaomi MI2

Is sold out. So lets take bets... the preorders were already inflated from $315 to $399
I'm betting that stock will be found on eBay/Amazon during the holidays or early 2013 starting at $699
I wont be paying that much.
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And... what does this have to do with the Atrix?

i try to pre-order from china from official site xiaomi.com the mi2 but the first mobiles are the beta version, final version pre-order is not yet.

Oh, no xiaomi sub-forum and u put it in the atrix, thanks

aaron.a said:
Is sold out. So lets take bets... the preorders were already inflated from $315 to $399
I'm betting that stock will be found on eBay/Amazon during the holidays or early 2013 starting at $699
I wont be paying that much.
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1. it's cheap and a power monster.
2. it's not sold out. it's just "booked out". like restaurant is booked fully does not mean all booked customers will go there for sure. i expect 50% people who got the mi phone bookings will place the order.
3. no use for non chinese user. cause few english based developers will have the phone. and a lot of translations, localizations need to be done.
4. quality and delivery time are unknown.

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3. no use for non chinese user. cause few english based developers will have the phone. and a lot of translations, localizations need to be done.
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I suspect (or rather, hope) that the Mi2 will manage to find popularity, and maybe even official distribution outside China. There really isn't anything comparable coming to the RoW market at this kind of price point at the moment, so there will be a lot of interest from developers abroad.
I, for one, don't even like Miui, but if I could have that hardware running ported CM10 I'd be happy as a pig in s**t - especially given it's a 4.3" phone at 720p, and AFAIK the only other option is the Sony which is far more expensive and doesn't have the horsepower of the Mi2. I'm not really a fan of big screens, but I do like having all the pixels
Hey, maybe somebody will want to swap a Mi2 for my One X one day :victory:

Thread closed. Please stay on topic about the Atrix 4G in these forums.

[Q] Nexus 4 vs Optimus Pro G vs Htc one X+

Hi there,
First off, I know there's probably a million thread of these and I've read about as much on the web about this but I'm still not satisfied. Which one would be superior in terms of value for the money and quality? Secondly, I plan to use my phone for music so the 16gb limit ont he 4 is a real downside for me, but I guess I could live with it if the nexus 4 is really that much better and worth the money as a lot of fanboys say.
I'd like to hear your opinion!
Thank you,
Crueltyfate

Feature wise note 2 wins
Spec wise OG pro wins
Dev support/latest android updates .. wise nexus 4 wins
so decide yourself

between the Note 2 and Nexus 4 i would go for but if you want development support and having the latest updates directly from Google then the Nexus 4..had a HOX and although a great phone the nexus is one hell of a beast...so my advice go for a nexus

If you listen a lot of music you should definitely get the one x+ it has built in amplifiers and beats audio is not just a gimmick..the sound quality on this phone is a lot better than any other android device....and the 64gb version with the release of the one..has dropped in price so for me if its for music go for HTC....nexus 4 is faster but both devices are quite good and fast!
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well I really like the Optimus G as well as the one x plus. Everyone tells me something different and I reallly can't decide. Both phones almost cost around the same where I live so the money isn't really that big of a deal. And yeah I listen to a lot of music but my last phone (current) is a sgs which i custom rommed the **** out of. So it's kind of an upgrade since i got it 2 years ago and I want to make sure I get a good phone for the money.

crueltyfate said:
well I really like the Optimus G as well as the one x plus. Everyone tells me something different and I reallly can't decide. Both phones almost cost around the same where I live so the money isn't really that big of a deal. And yeah I listen to a lot of music but my last phone (current) is a sgs which i custom rommed the **** out of. So it's kind of an upgrade since i got it 2 years ago and I want to make sure I get a good phone for the money.
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Go for the Nexus 4. I use it for music and it's great. Spotify all day!
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Next thread suggestion: Nexus 4 vs. pancakes vs. swimming in the nude. Makes as much sense as any other vs. thread

Next time just keep your mouth shut because it really isn't as funny as it was in your head. If you have nothing to say then say nothing.
Also, the nexus 4 is just about right, except it only has 8 or 16gb which is not enough for my needs. I need at LEAST 32GB. And I don't use spotify or anything like that. That's why the one plus is so appealing, but I'm unsure.

I had the one x before the n4.
The sound on the one x was much better then the stock n4.
However there are various tweaks for the n4 that has made the audio much better than the one x.
I use
Franco kernel
Volume boost +2
Volume gain -5
Xlouder mod - Noozeoxide eizo rewire
After tweaking them to my personal preference music is now much louder, clearer & better balanced than what I got out of my old one x.
That and the custom ROM / kernel development is much better on the n4 than what I got on the one x.
I can't comment on the other devices you are comparing against but I will give praise to the n4 developers.
Be it poor stock screen colours, OK sound. The devs just keep coming up with new things to make this device better
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crueltyfate said:
Next time just keep your mouth shut because it really isn't as funny as it was in your head. If you have nothing to say then say nothing.
Also, the nexus 4 is just about right, except it only has 8 or 16gb which is not enough for my needs. I need at LEAST 32GB. And I don't use spotify or anything like that. That's why the one plus is so appealing, but I'm unsure.
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Was this adressed to me? If you need at least 32GB storage wth are you doing on the N4 forum anyway?

crueltyfate said:
Next time just keep your mouth shut because it really isn't as funny as it was in your head. If you have nothing to say then say nothing.
Also, the nexus 4 is just about right, except it only has 8 or 16gb which is not enough for my needs. I need at LEAST 32GB. And I don't use spotify or anything like that. That's why the one plus is so appealing, but I'm unsure.
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I'd rule the One X+ out of this decision tbh because it runs the Tegra 3. That is an absolutely awful chipset when compared to the others.
If you genuinely need 32GB of onboard storage and can't use cloud data or other alternatives, first wait for Google IO just a few days off (they may release a 32GB N4, not likely but still possible) then rule it out if nothing new comes along.
Between the OG and the N2, I'd struggle to decide. I don't know how good development on the OG is or more importantly how long it will last, but at the same time I absolutely hate AMOLED screens, TouchWiz, the feel of the N2's plastic and am uncomfortable with the size of the device; overall I would slightly prefer the OG.
Just pointing out though that while his response may seem a bit rude, @gee2012 is right. There are many dedicated comparison threads in the General forums and it ultimately comes down entirely to personal opinion since no-one can decide for you.

It was adressed to your non topic related 'funny' comment.
And this is true, but it doesn't really matter in which section i'd post it. Most people will vowe for their own device anyway. I was just wondering how they'd compare though, to see if it'd really stand out so I could forget about the 16gb limit. But so far I haven't heard any ground breaking arguements for the 4.
Thank you all for the effort though.

I was planning on waiting on the IO indeed but I suppose the 8gb and 16gb choices are just another marketing thing so I don't think one will come out, but we'll see. And yes I know, I completely agree and I feel the same way, but nonetheless his comment was complete irrelevant and while no-one can indeed decide for me, people's opinions/experience can make the choice better and easier for me. On a side note, I could ofcourse use cloud and stuff like that but in the past I've noticed that it really relies on data connection and therefore I like to keep my music with me and not keep it in a digital harddisk, if you get my point. Right now my money is pointing towards the OG indeed. It's just that there's so many different phones and so many people saying different things that I don't really know whether I will be satisfied in the long rong or just regret another big, useless spend.

crueltyfate said:
It was adressed to your non topic related 'funny' comment.
And this is true, but it doesn't really matter in which section i'd post it. Most people will vowe for their own device anyway. I was just wondering how they'd compare though, to see if it'd really stand out so I could forget about the 16gb limit. But so far I haven't heard any ground breaking arguements for the 4.
Thank you all for the effort though.
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You should look more carefully, it wasn't my comment at all (hence I mentioned his username). Of course it matters where you post it because you'd definitely get less biased posts if you posted it in a general forum than you will by posting it here. But yeah, if as you say the N4 isn't particularly cheap in your area compared to other phones then there's not a huge argument in its favour, especially if you don't care about updates or are perfectly happy to flash custom ROMs.

nikufellow said:
Feature wise note 2 wins
Spec wise OG pro wins
Dev support/latest android updates .. wise nexus 4 wins
so decide yourself
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how is the OG better than the nexus spec wise?

@Nigeldg
I did look carefully. I know it wasn't you, it was directed to gee2012. Sorry for not mentioning usernames, I figured it would just post right after his post. And nope, google was originally planning on not selling it here at all (netherlands), but they are here now for 460 euros (nearly 600 bucks, f*ckin outrageous..) or in germany for 470 dollars which is also out the ass for a phone that originally costs 350. So yeah, pretty much all of those phones are around 500 euros in here. And I guess you are right, that's a mistake on my part. But the battle of the phones is still raging on in my mind..
Thank you.

crueltyfate said:
@Nigeldg
I did look carefully. I know it wasn't you, it was directed to gee2012. Sorry for not mentioning usernames, I figured it would just post right after his post. And nope, google was originally planning on not selling it here at all (netherlands), but they are here now for 460 euros (nearly 600 bucks, f*ckin outrageous..) or in germany for 470 dollars which is also out the ass for a phone that originally costs 350. So yeah, pretty much all of those phones are around 500 euros in here. And I guess you are right, that's a mistake on my part. But the battle of the phones is still raging on in my mind..
Thank you.
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I bought mine at the MediaMarkt Aachen and i think 369 euro`s nowadays for a top device is not too much. I live in the Netherlands too

TheVaginator said:
how is the OG better than the nexus spec wise?
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They're essentially the same phone but the OG has a better camera and expandable storage
crueltyfate said:
@Nigeldg
I did look carefully. I know it wasn't you, it was directed to gee2012. Sorry for not mentioning usernames, I figured it would just post right after his post. And nope, google was originally planning on not selling it here at all (netherlands), but they are here now for 460 euros (nearly 600 bucks, f*ckin outrageous..) or in germany for 470 dollars which is also out the ass for a phone that originally costs 350. So yeah, pretty much all of those phones are around 500 euros in here. And I guess you are right, that's a mistake on my part. But the battle of the phones is still raging on in my mind..
Thank you.
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gee2012 said:
I bought mine at the MediaMarkt Aachen and i think 369 euro`s nowadays for a top device is not too much. I live in the Netherlands too
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If you can find that deal then it seems pretty decent. It's much cheaper in the US but for reference here in the UK it costs £289, equivalent to 340 euros. Either way, given your criteria the N4 probably isn't your best choice.

gee2012 said:
I bought mine at the MediaMarkt Aachen and i think 369 euro`s nowadays for a top device is not too much. I live in the Netherlands too
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I know you live there. And yes, I saw it on the german MM site and they don't ship to the Netherlands.
Edit: oh, I can get it for 300 euro's on ebay so I might as well..

Nigeldg said:
They're essentially the same phone but the OG has a better camera and expandable storage
If you can find that deal then it seems pretty decent. It's much cheaper in the US but for reference here in the UK it costs £289, equivalent to 340 euros. Either way, given your criteria the N4 probably isn't your best choice.
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I can probably get it for around 340 euro's, which I find also very reasonable so I might just do that. I just hope 16GB will be enough - but on the other side, the 160 bucks I save from not buying the OG is worth more than 16 gigabytes, given that this device is almost as good, or even better. Right?
Thanks.